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Contents of Volume 6. 


No. 1. 
better from William Lacy, 
Rowel I Reese, 
Levi Lee 
Reuben Manning, 
Levi Lan easier, 
Jos. Biggs, Sen*r. 
E Harrison, 
V\ m. Moseiey, 
John S. Keith 
J»mes Bush, 
Jaseph Hamp<rm, 
Samuel Oanterberry. 
Hazael Litllefieid, 
Thos. Miller, 
Matthew D. Holsonbake, 
George W, McNeely, 

No. 2. 
Letter from William Crutcher, 
Jan es W. Walker, 
Daniel O'^'eel, 
the Chinch at Rehoboih, 

Samuel Clark, 
- Harris Wilkerson, 
A. Edwards, 
Willis S. Jarrell, 
Wprsham Mann, 
Henry Milliard, 
John Hardie, 
Ihe Church at Middle 

River, Ga. 
James P. Ellis, 
Jacob B. Higajins, 
Peter G. O dtiam, 
Willism Moseley, 

No. 3, 
Ex' rapt from the Minutes of the Ech- 

aconna Association, Ga. 
Circular Letter of the Pea River As- 
sociation, Ala. 
Letter from John B. Mose*, 
Hezt kiah West, 
Anthony M. Thompson, 
Pleasant A. Witt, 
Chloe Hurst, 
Japies H. Sasser, 















William M. Rushing 
E Hanisnn, 
John W. Pellum, 
Hazael Littlefield, 
Aided Adkins 
Thomas Matthews, 

No. 4. 
Letter from Jonathan Mickle, 
William Thomas, 
Daniel Dozier, 
Hymn on the trinity, by Joshua Law- 
Letter from Alfred Ellis, 

Andrew Westmoreland, 
Stephen B. Hamlelt, 
James S. Morgan, 
John Hart, 
William Davis, 
John Scallorn, 
I Hendon, 
J. R. Golding, 
Ro«ell Reese, 
No. 5. 
Letter from James W, Walker, 

William Thomas, 
Circular Letter of the Conecuh River 

Association, Ala. 
Letter from William Trice, 

William MeElvy, 
Rudolph Rorer, 
Jno YoumanSj 
F. Pickett, 
Henry A- Overman, 
Isaac Tillery, 
William S, Smith, 
Prior Lewis, 
Joseph Erwin, 
Evan Davis, 
S. W. Harris 
J. E- Albritlon, 
No. 6. 
Letter from William Crutcher, 
Seaborn Jones, 
Vachal D. Whatley, 
John Brown, 
Isaac Meekins, 
John Ca,nlerberry, 















Daniel Gentry, S9 

Benjamin May, 90 

Benjamin Lloyd, 92 

David Rovvell, Jun'r. ,, 

Joel Harvey, 94 

No. 7. 
Letter from .Tamos Hollingsworth, 97 

David jacks, 102 

Abel Palmer, 104 

Moses' Hod, by Benjamin May, 105 

Letter from Jonathan MicUle, 106 

William Moseley, 108 

Benjamin Thompson, „ 

Moses Bumpass, 110 

Marshal McGraw, „ 

No. 8. 

Letter from W. J. Sorelle, 113 

Vachal D. V\ halley, 115 

Jesse Lee, 1 16 

Francis Baker, 1 19 

Isaac Tillery, 121 

Geo, W.Jeter, 123 

David Johnston, ,, 

Gideon Woodruff, 124 

Jonathan Neel, ,, 

R. W. Carlisle, 126 

Thos. Amis, ,, 

John Speir, Sen'r 1 . ,, 

John F. Hagan, 127 

James Scarborough, ,, 

Joseph Holloway, „ 

No. 9. 

Letter from Elisha McCord, 129 

Samuel Canterberry, 130 

Wiliiam Thomas, 132 

Vachal D. Whatley, 134 

W. P. Robertson, 135 

Stephen 11. Hamlett, 136 

Rudolph Rorer, 137 

John B. Williams, 138 

Edmund \\ hatley, 140 

John Haynes, 141 

Joseph H. Holloway, 142 

No. 10. 

Letter from William Crutcher, 145 

R. B Mann, 146 
Thomas Westmoreland, 147 

Wilson Davenport, 14S 

Circular Letter of the Little River As- 
sociation, N. C. *49 

Letter from Vachal D. Whatley, 151 

William Hymart, 152 

Henry A. Overman, 153 

Martha Higftins, „ 

Isaiah Parker, 154 

William H. Cook, 155 

Thomas W. Mai tin, 156 

James Murray, i5f 

G. W. McDonald, 159 

No. 11. 

A Sermon, by John You mans, 161 

Letter from Wiliam C. Thomas, 163 

Levi Lee, 165 

Rudolph Rorer, ,, 

Robert Gregory, 167 

Joshua Lawrence, 168 

John Galloway, Sen'r. 109 

David Johnston, 170 

William D. Taylor, 172 

Isaac -Smith, 173 

Joseph B Lewis, 174 

Wilson Fountain, ,, 

Luther to Erasmus, (selected,) 175 

No. \-Zi 

Letter from Burwell Temple, 177 

Robert Donaldson, 1S2 

Abel Palmer, 185 

Jonathan Mickle, 186 

Abednego McGinty, 1*9 

Gideon Woodruff, 190' 

James Hildreth, 191 

John Hart, „ 

No. 13. 

Letter from Peter Ctrlp, 193 

E. R. Whatley, 195 

Nelson Canterberry, 197 

Wm. A. Reavis, 198 

Rudolph Rorer, 199 

Thomas Latta, 201 

Jacob G. Bowers, ,, 

Edward Jones, ,, 

Joshua Yeats, 202' 

Benjamin May, 203 

James S. Morgan, 204 

John Webb, 205 

John Powell, 206 

No. 14. 

Letter from Vachal D. Whatley, 209 1 

James A. Scott, 210 

Rudolph Rorer, - 212 

Wm, C. Thomas, 214 

James Gray, 215 

John H. Daniel, 216 

Hezekiah West, 218 

John Good, Junior, 219 

Moses H. Djnman, 220 

Michael Burkhalter, 222 

Jonathan Neel, ,, 

No. 15. 

Letter from Thomas W. Martin, 225 

Benjamin Lloyd, 226 

Edm'd Beeman, ,, 
Willie J. Sorelle, ,, 

Matthew Yales, 22S 

Minutes of the Springfield Associa- 
tion, A l,i. 

Letter from Hardy Brooke, 

Wm. Cadenhead , 
Allen G. Simmons, 

Israel fed with manna in the wilder- 
ness — by Benj. May, 

Letter from Jesse Lee, 

Vachal D. Whatley, 
John Vandiveer, 
Rupolph Rorer, 
Edward Jones, 
Graddy Herring, 

No. 16. 

Letter From Marshal McGraw 
C. A. Parker, 
Chloe Hurst, 
Rudolph Rorer, 
Robert B. Mann, 
L. J. J. Puckett, 
Joseph H. Flint, 

A warning to all, by Benj. May, 

Letter from Luke Haynie, 

William Thomas, 
John Webb, 

No, 17. 

Letter from James Murray, 
Haley Cutten, 
E R. Whatley, 
Rudolph Rorer, 
John Webb, 
L. J. J. Puckett, 

Not willing to always slay below — the 
straight gate — and, the end of all 
things at hand — by Benj. May, 

Letter from E. Harrison, 

William Moseley, 
Thomas Matthews, 
James Hollingaworth, 
John Good, 
Edmund Jordan, 
Henry C. Fuller, 

Luther to Erasmus, (selected,) 

No. 18. 
Letter from Vachal D. Whatley, 
Benjamin Williams, 
Hiram Rhea, 
John Good, 
J as. H. Sasser, 
Isaac Tillery, 
I. Chrisman, 
Eliza Johnson, 
Vachal D. Whatley, 
Evan Roberts, 
Allen Ellis, 



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No. 19. 

Letter from Asa Bell, Sen'r. 289 

Diury Jackson, 291 

John Good, „ 

Thornton Rice, 292 

James Zorn, 293 

Martha Higgins, 294 

Henry Randolph, 295 

,, I Victorious Grace, by Joshua Lawrence, 297 

235 | Letter from Joseph H. Flint, 303 

237 S. W. Harris, „ 


No. 20. 

I Victorious Grace, continued, 305 

i Letter from Hiram Hundley, 312 

Thomas Hill, Sr. 313 

Thomas Davis, 317 

John Davidson, Sen'r. ,, 

Ira E Doulhit, 31S 

Sherwood Snivey, 319 

George C. Dodson, 












No. 21. 

Victorious Grace, continued. 
Extract from Minutes of the Kehukee 

Association, N. C. 
Letter from Thomas Hill, Sr. 

No. 22 

Victorious Grace, continued, 337 

Letter from Thomas Hill, Sr. 341 

James Zorn, 342 

Worsham Mann, 343 

Joshua Lawrence, 344 

Samuel Tatum, 345 

Extract from the Minutes of the Con- 

tentnea Association, N C. 347 

No. 23. 
Victorious Grace, concluded, 353 

Extract from the Minutes of the Oco- 


nee Association, Ga. 
Letter from Francis Baker, 
John Timmons, 
Edmund Dumas, 
Josiah Massey, 
J. Hampton, 
William Nelson, 
William Trice, 

No, 24. 

Letter from Vachal D. Whatley, 369 

Mathevv D. Holsonbake, ,, 

Rudolph Rorer, 370 

Elisha McCord, 371 

Isaac Meekins, 373 

Circular Letter, by Joshua Lawrence, 373 

Letter from Hiram Hundley. 374 

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esteem nful have Christian fellowship for, 
and would rise at midnight to do them ser- 
vice; but [ believe they are the first cause 
of the split. Suppose A and B live many 
years together in a church in good fellow- 
ship,- and B goes into new measures and 
the fellowship is broken; the fault cannot 
be in A, for he stands where he did, there- 
fore B is the cause of the split. Well, part 
of the Baptists stand as they have for ages 
pisl, and part of late have gone into 
things unknown by the Baptists in former 
days, and I think unauthorised by the scrip- 
tures,- and therefore I think have caused 
the division, and we are told to mark them 
which cause divisions, &c. 


Chambers C. H JUabnma, 5 
207 A November, 1S40. X 
Dear Brethren of the Primitive 
ohder: Since 1 came to Alabama I wrote 
a small piece that was published in the 
Christian Index, which I have been truly 
sorry for; and now I write a few Tines, 
which t desire to be inserted in your useful 

( was baptised in Jasper county, Georgia, 
in JS12; moved to Maury county, Tennes- 
see, and commenced preaching in 1817;! Again, it seems to me, that the mission- 
arid was ordained in 1820, b} brethren aries are getting alyvay from the Baptist 
Henry Petty, Thomas Hanks and Aaron faith, and from old fashion experience, SB(\ 
Cunningham. Afterwards, moved back any special call to the minisliy. ] used to. 
to Georgia, and have generally had my think there was a ministerial fellow- 
ttme filled up with the care of c urches, and ship, but how is it now? When one 
enjoyed a good portion of peace and pros-! man has a weight and travel of mind a 
perity with my chinches, and suppose I long time to the important work of the 
have baptised between six and seven hun- ■ ministry, another youth joins the church, 
dfed. But when the split took place on ! commences talking, and in a little time is 
the missionary and institution question, 1 sent to school, training for the ministry; 
refused to declare an tin-fellowship, and , and when he is educated, he can preaen 
was therefore thrown on the missionary or plead law, or practice medicine, or leach 
side, though 1 never joined one of the insti- j school, just as his interest or inclination 
tutions. I leads him. I fear there are many preach- 

And the affliction and confusion of , ing in high business, that are strangers to 
mind that I passed through, tongue cannot ' the new birth. Thetel'ore, viewing the 
express. Sometimes I was prejudiced I whole matter, 1 feel it my duty lo humble 
against my Old School brethren, and found 1 myself under the hand of God and at the 
some fault of their preaching. Again, the, feet of my brethren, and say, for tvery 
thought of being separated from my own I wrong step I have taken, and every hard 
sort of people so grieved me, that 1 have! word intai h.i> e dropped. & every affliction 
thought several times of hunting a lodging my course has produced,' 1 tr'ust'I have ti ulv 

epented for and asked forgiveness. And 

But I have goi 

place in the wilderness, 
convinced at last. 

And here let me remark, there are many 
yet in the missionary ranks, that 1 highly 

it 1 can be permitted, 1 desire lo spend thi 
rest of my days with the Primitive pr O.J 
School Baptists. 


Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a 
fault, you who are spiritual restore such ars 
one in the spirit of meekness, considering 
Shyself lest thou also be tempted. Possibly 
some may say, that I was not esteemed high 
enough among the missionaries; therefore, 
I have left them. To this I answer, I base 
been in Alabama two years, and I have been 
called to five churches each year. I think 
there are many moie brethren in distress, 
and I would say to them, they that were 
clean escaped from them who live in error, 

Dear brethren, we are persecuted and 
fried, but the glorious day is coming, 
when the Lord will gather his elect from 
the four winds, and will set down in the king- 
dom of God, where the wicked cease from 
troubling, and the weary are at rest, and 
heaven sweetly echo with the praise of 
God's elect. Yours in gospel bonds. 


From five Signs of the Times. 

"Eatonlun, Get., Oct. 6. 1S40. 

Dear Brother: — The accompanying 
Minutes of the Ocmulgee Association con- 
tains an expression of lint Association re- 
lative to the religious stand occupied and 
course pursued al present by Eider Til man 
D. Oxford and his adherents or followers. 
I hope you will admit the same into the 
eolumns of your much esteemed periodical, 
the Signs of the Times — as also the Prim- 
itive Baptist — as soon as opportunity will 
allow. The Association speaks for herself, 
and for the information of brethren abroad, 
in language plain and easy to be under- 
stood, and therefore it needs no comment 
to show where she stands as an Association 
of OKI School Baptists, and where Elder 
Oxford and his clan stand in ihe religious 
community, li For their rock is nut, as 
our Rock, our enemies themselves, being 

Yours in the bonds of a gracious Redee- 
mer. ROWEL J. REE^E. 

P. S. A text for Brother Beebe or some 
other brother or brethren to give their 
views on through the Signs and Primitive 
Baptist. 1 Tim, ii. 6, as 1 think a word'of 
warning to the churches, elders and dea- 
cons would not be amiss. R. R. 

In lieu of a Circular, the following is an 
expression of the Ocmulgee Associa- 
tion, relative to the religious stand 
occupied and course pursued, at j>re- 

sent,by Elder Tilman D. Oxford and 
hh adherents or followers. 

In going into an explanation of Ibb 
subject, we are truly sorry that we are 
compelled to declare our disapprobation of 
the religious course and conduct of breth- 
ren with whom we once took sweet coun- 
sel. But, painful as the l3sk may be, we 
deem it an imperative duty we owe to 
God, to the religious community, and to 
ourselves as an association of Baptist", so 
to do; and shall endeavor, in the spirit of 
love and meekness, to give as full and fair 
a developeroent of the truth of the case be- 
fore us, as we possibly ean. The first of 
our ever knowing of any dissatisfaction in 
Elder Oxford with the act of this body, 
was at our session, in 1636, at Concord, 
,1'as-per county. When reading the letters 
from the different churches composing; 
this body, we found that Mount Grlead 
Church, Putnam county, had taken into 
consideration the systems of the day (be- 
nevolent — so called,) and finding them 
unscriptural, had declared non-fellowship 
with them, and requested this body to give 
its advice on the subject. To which this 
body gave the following answer; 

Resolved, We concur with her in the 
course she has pursued. 

Which Elder Oxford opposed in argu- 
ment to a considerable length, upon the 
grounds, he said, of ihe inexpediency of 
such a course, and eleven voted against 

| the resolution. Elder Oxford remained 
neutral, ami the same time asserting the 

| systems of the day were unscriptural, and 

J that he had no fellowship for them; but 
there weie certain good brethren connect- 

j ed with some of these societies that he 
could not give up. What inconsistency! 
And he continues, during the next associa- 

. lional year, to murmur and complain of 
the act of this body, both publicly arwll 
privately ; and at the next session of the 
body, in 1S37, at County Line Church, 

.Jones Co., the aforesaid church sends up 
two quern s, as follows: 1st, Are the insti- 
tutions of the day (benevolent, so called) 
scriptural? 2nd, If the answer should be 
— No, where the impropriety of declaring 
non fellowship? To the first query I be 
following was given in answer: We believe 

, them to be unscriptural;. after which the 

I second query was withdrawn; and Elder 
Oxford opposed the withdrawal, upon the 
ground, he said, that it deprived him, of 
the privilege of showing the unconstitu- 
tionality of the association's declaring non- 


fellowship. He was informed of the im- 
mediate forthcoming of a memorial from 
Harmony Church, Putnam Co., the inves- 
tigation of which would give him, or any- 
other brother, full and free privilege of 
showing what they wished. And here 
we will state the reason why this memo- 
rial was sent up by Harmony Church; 
which is this: — bolder Oxford had imbibed 
a notion, and had instilled it into others, 
that the actof this body, last year, (ISSGJ 
in concurring with Mount Gilead Church, 
was infringing the internal rights of the 
churches. Harmony Church wishes to 
have an expression from the body, and 
sends the following memorial, produced 
by her messengers: — "Has this Associa- 
tion any right to lord it over God's heri- 
tage, or interfere with the internal rights 
of the churches?" Answer — "No."— 
Here we think proper to state that every 
brother had full privilege to give his views 
relative to what had given rise to this me- 
morial, as well as the discussion of it. And 
yet Elder Oxford appears dissatisfied, and 
makes hard expressions, such as, he had 
been prohibited from speaking, and had 
been put down by the brother Moderator; 
and appeared distant, and took no part in 
the further prosecution of the business of 
the body during the session; and at the 
close of the business, D. McDowell, (the 
colleague of Elder Oxford,) very gravely 
and sympathetically addressed the brother 
Moderator as follows: that he thought his 
dear brother Oxford hud been proscribed, 
be thought that the brother Moderator had 
debarred his brother Oxford the privilege 
that he was justly entitled to, and that it 
was more than he could do to suppress the 
feeling he bad for that dear disciple of Je- 
sus; or words to that amount. Upon 
which the brother Moderator, finding 
himself charged with injustice, reques!ed 
an expression of the body upon that sub- 
ject; and upon the voice of the body being 
taken, we recollect of no brother's voting 
to sustain the charge against the brother 
Moderator, but the one who brought it 

And from that time Elder Oxford dou- 
bled his diligence against the acts of the 
body, to try to sour the minds of brethren 
and prejudice the churches of which he 
was pastor or supply, by telling them that 
the act of concutring with Mount Gilead 
was interfering with their internal rights, 
and that he had of ten heard of the gag law, 
bat never knew any thing of its distress- 

ing effects until it was enforced on him by 
the Moderator of this body, when in ses- 
sion at County Line Church; and finally 
stirs up as much strife as he possibly can 
by the next session of this body, in 1838, 
at Enon Church, Putnam Co. — And be- 
hold, when the Association meets, she 
finds four queries propounded, and forced 
by Elder Oxford upon one of his churches, 
(as he called it,) and sent up in her letter, 
contrary to the wish of the church, as she 
has since proven, by letting him alone; 
believing he was joined to his idols. The 
purport of the queries were, just to bring, 
something into the body that would open 
the way to argument, (a part of speech 
which he thinks himself much gifted in,) 
if we take his own word and acts as proof 
in the case. 

The first business attended to on Mon- 
day morning of this session (183S) was the 

On motion, a resolution was offered de- 
claring non-fellowship with the entire 
brood of institutions of the day, (benevo- 
lent — so called) now existing in the Uni- 
ted States, being, as we believe, unscrip^ 
tural; and that we will not hold any church 
in fellowship or union* nor will we corres- 
pond with any association, which is con- 
nected with or advocates them. 

Here Elder Oxford had a fair opportu- 
nity to show the unconstitutionality of the' 
Association's declaring non-fellowship, 
which he very ambiguously attempted for 
a consideroble length of time, but failed as 
before. When the motion was put, there 
were nine who voted against the resolution,- 
and yet say they have no fellowship for the 
institutions; and one of the minority obser- 
ved, We submit. Elder Oxford an-J his 
colleague pledged themselves for their' 
church, that it would not have any thing 
to do with the societies or the advocates- of 
them. Aud here the body hoped that alt 
would be well} that an honest difference 
of opinion was each other's privilege where 
principle was not involved. 

Immediately after the adoption of the' 
above-named resolution the body received 
a petitionary letter from a number of chur-- 
ches in Pike county, requesting ministe- 
rial aid to form a Presbytery, to constitute 
said churches into an Association. The 
petition was granted without a dissenting 
voice; and it was well known to the boiy 
that those chinches had separated from the 
Flint Kiver Association upon the non-fel- 
lowship question, and that they intended 

PillMiTlVtE BAl'l'ISt. 

to «©nstitute «pon that principle. The 
churches accordingly met nnd were con- 
stituted into an Association. Brother 
Thomas C. Trice, a minister, then member 
of this body, as one of the Presbytery, hel- 
ped iri the constitution, and it ts known 
and distinguished by the name of Towali- 
ga Primitive B >ptist Association; and at 
the last session of this body, 1S3!), at Fish- 
ing Creek Church, Baldwin Co., the above 
named Association petitioned this body, 
by their letter and Minutes, through their 
messengers Douglas, Kilpatrick and Blood- 
tvorth, to open correspondence. And what 
do we hear from Elder Oxford? Why, an 
objection to the correspondence; and he 
proceeds to give his reasons, which are as 
follows: that the Towaliga Primitive Bap- 
tist Association is not of the same faith and 
Order of this body; Is*, on account of her 

that this body and the Flint River Associ- 
ation corresponded upon the above differ- 
ences in items of decorum; & by recurring; 
to the minutes of this body in If* 30, also at 
mote re em date, 1837, we find this same 
Elder Oxford a corresponding messenger 
to the Flint River, from this body, upon 
the same objectionable items of decorum 
sfs he is pleased now to call them. Bm, 
alter all his reasons and objections of the 
above kind being urged by him for about 
the space of three hours at. least, the body 
agreed to open the correspondence with 
the petitioning body at her request. — 
Whereupon, Elder Oxford and eight or 
nine others, alter voting against the cor- 
respondence, had the assurance lo demand 
the constitution of the Ocmulgee Associa- 
tion, togeth r with all the documents be- 
longing thereto; Which demand the As-o- 

havinga 13th article in her constitution elation peremptorily refused lo comply 
which simply asserts a belief that the in- I with. Then we were reminded of the A- 
stitutions of the day ate unscriphnal, ua- ' postle's noiiee: "Also of your ownselvc3 
supported by divine revelation, ami are j shall men arise, speaking perverse things^ 
therefore improper; which is synonymous to draw away disciples after them." They 
with the sentiment expressed in the reso- th«n lefl the house — another feature of 
lution passed by this body in 1S3S. lour Master's mark on such characters: 

Another reason he offeis, is, that their "They went out from us, because they 
decorum does not agree verb ,n im with ours* were not of us, for if they had been of us, 
The difference is this, upon which he ob- 'hey would no doubt have continued with 
jects, i. e. 5ih and 6th items of the 19th us: but they went out that they might be 
article of theirs read thus: 5ih item, lo cor- ma e manifest thai they were not all of us. " 
respond with other Associations! Gth iiem, ' We have no*v before us a spurious piece, 
ihe Association shall have power to ex- puiporiing lo be the minutes of the Oc- 
clude any church in this union which shall muigee Association, with ihe name of 
violate'the rales of this Association, or de- Tilman L). Oxford signed to it as ciet k, of 
viaie from the oylliodox principles of reli- which we purpose noticing a few items, 
gion — 2nd and 3rd items of ihe 15 h ar- that the tru,th may come, as it is mighty 
tides of the decorum of this body read and will prevail over error. In this piece 
thus: 2d item, to keep up a correspondence he has tried to gull the public mind, as 
with those Associations of ihe same faith well "Ss that of orthodox and orderly Bip- 
and order; 3d item, withdraw Irom any lists, tniO-a belief that a small minariu (of 

church or churches whom ihey shall look 
upon to be unsound in principle or immo 
ral in practice, uniil they be reclaimed. 

winch he was ihe head) is truly the Oc- 
mulgee Association, by saving on ihe 
fourth page of hissheet of falsehood, "Yet 

Now, it is a well known fact, thai the theie was a large majority of (he body 
Towaliga took a piccise cep\ ol the eon- who preferred a violation of our .owty cou- 
stituiion and decoi urn of the Flint Rivet j stilution and decorum, to a suspension of 
Association, from which said churches had ' the proposed correspondence, upon which 

wiihdrawu; and ii is further known, that 
it underwent no alteration or amendment, 
the above named 13:h article being added 
after a review of the same bj ihe churches, 
and their unanimous consent had; and a- 
greeably to the scriptures of truih, as well 
as the honest belief of every Old School 
or orthodox in America. And 
further, it will be icmemheied by Elder 
Oxford, us well as a great mar>y others, 

we, the minority, (stating their names) 
refused to comply," &••. We note ihe 
above, in order lo disabuse ihe public 
mind, which, perhaps, has seen the piece 
alluded to and has drawn some conclusions 
of the truth of its assertions. Wedo, there- 
fore, solemnly say, in ihe fear of that God 
we profess to serve, thalthe above charge 
against a large" majority of I h is body, of 
violating our own constitution and deco- 



mm, is a base calumny, without founda- 
tion in truth. Again, we hear him pay- 
ing, on the 5ih page, "then appointed 
Brother T. D. Oxford to procure a copy of 
the Minutes up to the reception of the new 
confession at faith.'' W e say this body 
has no such new confession of faith: there- 
fore the charge is without warrant. We 
are confident that no orthodox Baptist be- 
lieves a single item of the above named 
piece, who are acquainted with us as an 
Association; and further, we are now in 
open correspondence with seven Old 
School Baptist Associations, and have full 
fellowship for every orthodox and orderly 
Old School Baptist in the world. 

Whereas the said Elder Oxford and his 
followers have taken a stand, and are pur- 
suiuga course by themselves, unpreceden- 
ted in the annals of Baptist history, and 
not patronized by any who are acquainted 
with and love Baptist usage, we therefore 
declare that the piece before us, of which 
we speak, is a fabrication. of misrepresents- I 
tion, whose design, we believe, is to slan- 
der the christian character of the Ocmulgee j 
Association, and to exall the character of 
Elder Oxford "above all is called God, | 
that he may sit in the temple of God, show- j 
ing himself that he is God," or Chief Ru- 
ler, in the churches over which he presides 
as Master, instead of pastor, or servant. 

We thought we were done with this 
piece, but we feel bound in justice to our- 
selves and brethren abroad, to say some- 
thing more. It appears that he would 
make the world believe, if he could, there 
were five churches of this body gone off 
with him, which is not the fact. O.i the 
6th page he says, (in the state of the chur- 
ches,) Fellowship, Jasper Co., and Har- 
mony, Baldwin Co., and records the names 
of the messengers; but the truth is, when 
the messengers returned home, tiie chur- 
ches called them to account for their stew- 
ardship, and they were "weighed in the 
balance and were found wanting." Fel- 
lowship condemned the act of their mes- 
senger, (in going off with Elder Oxford,) 
by a large majority; — upon which the 
minority took letters — so the cl.uich re- 
mains in good standing in this body. — One 
of the messengers from Harmony voted 
with Elder Oxford, and the other remain- 
ed neutral. The one who voted with and 
went off with Eider Oxford, the church, 
on being informed of his conduct, called 
to au account; and he remained obstinate 
and wWid not hear the church, and was 

therefore excluded. The church Is in 
gnod order in litis body. So there are 
three churches, i. e. Ejam, Jones Co., 
Concord, .Jasper Co., and Mount Olive, 
Baldwin Co., that are'wilh Elder Oxford, 
though some members from Elam and 
Concord have come and joined some of 
the churches composing this body, on a 
confession of their faith; and but for the 
spirit that governs, in the head of the fac- 
tion, we believe they would shortly return 
to the primitive path of rectitude.— 
Though painful, we feel it our duty to pub- 
lish them, to the religious community and 
to the world, a religious faciion in the 
community, so long as they pursue, until 
they return to the place from whence they 
have fallen, and are reclaimed upon the 
princ pies of the Baptists. And may the 
Lord give them light to view their stand. 

Rowell Reese, Clerk- 

to editors primitive baptist. 

Blacksvllle, Barnwell district, So.Ca. 
October \2th, 1S40. 
Dear brethren Editors: It has be- 
come my duiy, as agent, to send on some 
money for the subscribers that I am agent 
for; and as I have nothing very great to 
communicate at this time, lean only say, 
I believe the old Primitive principle 
is g lining ground in this part of the coun- 
try. And I should like to mention a few 
things that has pissed, but my mind being 
drawn out on another subject at present, 
I shall omit, them at this time, and beg leave 
to lay before my brethren the constitution 
of the American Baptist Home Mission 
Society, fov their consideration; finding 
so many brethren in this part of the country 
that ha\e been casting in their mites to the 
support of that society, and not knowing 
their cunning craft to get money; and think- 
ing that it may be the same in other parts 
of the world, which makes me wish to lay 
the constitution before them, that they may 
I see it and judge for themselves, if it agrees 
with the liible. 

And also I see in some of the brethren's 
writings in the Primitive paper, that some 
of the New School system have attached 
to us, the Old School Baptists, the name of 
Catholics; and Mo not think the name 
will apply to us, the Old School Baptists, 
so well as it will apply to them of the New 
School. And for proof, view the consti- 


tution of the Home Mission Society, which 
I will put down in their own words, as I 
have one of their Minutes right before 
me. And here they are, such as they 

Article I. This society shall be called the A- 
merican Baptist Home Mission Society. 

Art. II. The great object of this society shall be 
to promote the preaching of the gospel in North 

Art, III. Any person may become a member of 
this society by contributing annually to its funds; 
thirty dollars paid at one time shall constitute a 
director for lifei Any person paying a sum which 
in addition to any previous contribution shall 
amount to one hundred dollars, shall be a director 
for life/ And any Baptist church, or Association, 
or State Convention, or missionary society, that 
contributes annually to the objects of this society, 
shall be entitled to be represented by one or more 
delegates in its annual meetings. 

Art. IV. The officers of this society shall be a 

Art. X. The annual meeting of the society shall 
be held at such time and place as the society shall 
determine at a previous annual meeting, or as the 
executive committee shall determine. 

Art. XI. No alteration of this constitution shall 
be made, without an affirmative vote of two-thirds 
of the members present at an annual meeting; nor 
unless the same shall have been proposed at a pre- 
vious annual meeting, or recommended by the ex- 
ecutive committee. 

And now I have put down the constitu- 
lion of the Home Mission Society,and I ask 
the question, does not this Society resem- 
ble the Catholic priestcraft very much, 
whose object is to sell out membership to 
get money? The Catholics sell out indul- 
gence for sin to get money, now can you 
not see some resemblance batween the two, 
the Catholics and the New School Baptists? 
I think you can. 

So I shall conclude for the present and 

president, vice president, a treasurer, an auditor, j suu& cribe myself your unworthy broth- 
si corresponding secretary, a recording secretary, , • , , t . ,:,• 
and fifty directors, who shall be annually appoint- u lH nd l )e 0I el ^ aal ult - „ 
ed by the society. L. h. k 1 L. b. tl. 

Art. V. The officers and life directors shall ap- 
point an executive committee of thirteen persons, 
exclusive of the treasurer, the corresponding sec- 
retary, and the recording secretary, residing in the 
city of New York and its vicinity, five of whom 
shall be a quorum at any meeting regularly con- 
vened. This committee shall have power to ap- 
point its own meetings, form its own rules of bu- 
siness, and fill any vacancies which may occur j - 
during the year, and convene special meetings of I months, 
the board of the society; shall appoint missions- ] expect to be oneof your regular subscri- 
ries and instruct them as to the field and manner hers, as I am well pleased with the doctrine 
of their labors; shall dispose of the funds for the i j t holds out, f ; >r 1 believe it to be the true 
objects of the society, provided that all monies ,• _r_,,_ i ,„,i .,„ i c, ,.;„,,„ i 

J , -, . , » c i Hi c -.u ■ doctrine oi our Ij >ru anil Saviour Jesus 

contributed for any specific purpose, shall be railh- j . v /.. ■ • . 

fully applied only to that particular object. Shall j Christ. Yours, I nop?, in Chnsiun love. 


Mannington, Florida, } 
Nov. 3rd, 1S40. $ 
De\r brethren Editors: Your pa- 
per has been coming to me for the last two 

create such ;tijeiicy or agencies for the appoint- 
ment of missionaries and for other purposes, as 
the interests of the society may require, and shall 
make an annual report of their proceedings to the 
society. All the officers, executive committee, 
agents and missionaries of the society, shall be 
members of some regular Baptist church, in gene- 
ral union with the body of that denomination. 

Art. VI. The treasurer shall give bonds to such 
amount as the executive committee shall think 

Art. VII. Any Baptist missionary society may 
become auxiliary, by agreeing to pay into the trea- 
sury of this society the whole of its surplus funds, 
and sending to the corresponding secretary a copy 
of its constitution and annual reports, mentioning 
the names of its missionaries and the fields of 
their operations. 



to editors primitive baptist. 

Donalson's Creek, Trigg county, Ky 

September 2St/i, 1S40. 
Original Little River Association 
Old Brcdeslinarian Baptists. 
Dearly beloved brethren Editors: 
According lo record, 1 am this day, sixty 
and six years of au;e, 1 am no preacher, 
and have but a very limited education. I 
have wrole but one piece before this ever 
to have been primed in any religious peri- 
odical, and that was written through a 

Art. VIII. Every auxiliary society which shall : se nse of duly , dial lowed to myself," and 
agree to pay the whole of its funds to tins soeie- . ., . , . i , • . ■ . .' • , , , 

ty, shall lienmled to a missionary, or missiona- he church a,ul AwoClutWO to which 1 be- 
ries, to labor in such fields as it may designate, to long. 

amount at least equal lo that of its contributions, I Denr brot'iren, I have the eou«oIadon 
provided such designation be made at the lime of | inform you, that we, as an Association, 

payment. < together with four more, with whom we 

Art. IX. I he officers of auxiliary societies shall , " . i n . .-» ■ 

be ex-officio directors of this ty, and iheir I h,ve eonespondence, namely Red R,ver, 
members shall be members of this society. Muddy River, Clark s River and High- 



land, have all come out from among and 
made crarselves seperale from any, and 
all, but what we believe, can produce a 
thus sailh (he Lord, for our and their way 
and manner of worship. When we meet 
•at our church meetings or at our Associa- 
tions, we meet like friends, and when we 
part we p:irt like brothers. We have no 
camp meetings, protracted meetings, anx- 
ious benches, or stool pigeons, neither 
have wc any thing to do with the benevo- 
lent societies. 

Yet, dear brethren, it is to be awfully, 
feared, that all is not right among us. There 
are too many of us, who are living at home, 
with our doors shut, and the string of the 
{atch pulled in, (comparatively speaking. ) 
I will refer to a certain case, which lately 
took place with myself. I was appoint-, 
ed, by our last Association, to superin- 
tend the printing and distribution of our 
Minutes. I had to go about twenty-seven : 
miles to get theiw printed; and afterward, 
in about seventeen days, I went after them 
and as I was returning home, about the 
close of daylight, 1 enquired for, and found 
the house, of an old brother, with whom 
I had often sat, as a member in the Asso- 
ciation, I rode up before the door and hai- 
led, asking if the gentleman of the house 
was at home, and was answered, by a 
large stout looking young man, that he 
was in the house, and very poorly. 1 ask- 
ed if 1 could stay all night. He replied, I 
reckon you can; and turned and went into 
the house. And, after a few minutes, he 
returned to where I was sitting on my 
horse, and said to me, father has been very 
sck; and has but just got up about, and 
there are five of the negroes down sick, 
and I reckon, you had better go some- 
<whe re else. 

This true, that I did not send word, to 
the old brother, that the clerk of the Asso- 
ciation was come with the Minutes, and 
wanted to stay all night; but 1 knew thev 
saw I was a human being, avid 1 thought, 
that was enough to give me a claim to his 

Dear brethren, 1 need not tell you, that 
1 turned away from the gate, very much 
dejected, thinking it was then too late to 
look out, in a strange neighborhood, for 
other quarters.; but I had not rode more 
than two or three hundred yards, before] 
these thoughts entered into my mind: My ! 
blessed master was here on earth, upward 
of thirty years, and was going to and fro,! 
do in«; good, and had not where to lay his . 

wear}' head, and why should I ihink hard, 
of being denied one night's entertain- 
weui; 1 am on a good horse, the weather 
warm, the moon giving light, and by a 
little fatigue, I can reach home. The 
above thoughts so revived me, that I 
fell quite cheerful, my resolution revived, 
1 rode on with- fresh courage, and after a 
ride of about five hours more, I reached 
my own place of residence, at about 1 1 
o'clock in the night, making a day and 
night's ride of about fifty-six miles, al- 
lowing for the distance from the road to 
the old brother's house. 

Dear brethren, this puts me in mind of 
a passage 1 have some where read: be not 
forgetful to entertain strangers, for by so 
doing, some have entertained angels una- 
wares. Now, brethren, as I have to exe- 
cute the office of a deacon, let me remind 
you of what I believe to be your duty. I 
believe that there are certain men who are 
called of God to take charge over the flock, 
over the which the Holy Ghost hath made 
them overseers. I believe it is their duty 
to feed the flock of Christ, and to proclaim 
the glad tidings of sovereign grace to poor, 
lost, helpless sinners; not of constraint, but 
willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a rea- 
dy mind. 

Brother deacons, I believe it to be onr 
duly to inquire, and find out, the situation 
and circumstance of our preacher and his 
family. If they are needy, we ought to 
inform the members of our church, and 
press it as a duty on them, to contribute to 
our paslor's relief, and for us to see that he 
does receive the benefit of the church's 
contribution. Brethren of the laity, I 
have sometimes noticed, that on meeting 
days when contribution time comes, that 
there are too many of your seats vacant on 
that day. Also, 1 have noticed at the As- 
sociations when the committees of finance 
make the report, the contributions are but 
small. When we want corresponding mem- 
bers to go <o other Associations, there ap- 
pears a reluctance in members volunteering 
to go. Remember, brethren, it is written, 
the Lord lovelh a cheerful giver; also, that 
we are not to muzzle the ox when he tread- 
eth out the corn. Read the writings of 
Paul, and you may find out your duty to 
your preachers and to one another- Per- 
haps some may reply by way of excuse, 
i am poor, and have nothing to spare; then 
1 call on you to remember, that the scrip- 
lures give us some account of unjust stew- 



su'dj, and unprofitable servants. A. word 
to the wise is enough. 

Dear brethren, I ;im well pleased vvilli 
our linle Prim, as a channel of communi- 
cation, through which we can have corres- 
pondence one with another; but fin a few 
instances) 1 find, that when the old Apos 
tolic Baptists hive undertaken to keep up 
correspondence with each other, some of 
the other kind of B iptists have written al- 
so"; and they make free to write as Old 
School Baptists too. But I would be glad 
for them to say which Old School they 
belong to. The oldest school that I Have 
any account of in the Bible, was set up soon 
after God gave Adam a law to keep; when 
the devil began to teach old mother Eve 
to believe a lie and discredit the word of 
Ood. So that 1 think there was an old Sa- 
tanic school, as well as an old apostolic 

Dear brethren, when times go well with 
you, I hope you will pray for poor unworthy 
me. Farewell. Yours in the best of bonds. 



The issuing- our next number will be delayed a 
few days beyond the regular time, to enable our 
subscribers and agents to furnish us with the ne- 
cessary corrections in our subscription list, occa- 
sioned by removals, deaths, &Ci — we shall, how- 
ever, soon resume our usual regularity. 

For the information of new subscribers, and as 
a guide to correspondents, we re-publish the 
prospectus issued before commencing the publica- 
tion of the Primitive Baptist. It will be noticed, 
that no mention is made of a di&cussion of points 
of doctrine or practice, on which Old School or 
Primitive Baptists may differ; it was, and it is 
still, deemed advisable to leave this with the 

gain ofgodltness We wish to have it dis- 
tinctly understood, that we are not inimical 
to Masonry, Temperance, the distribution 
of the Bible, or the spread oftbe Gospel — 
hut we do condemn the mingling of profes- 
sors and non -professors ofieligio*i in socie- 
ties, and the making a "craft" of religions 
m Iters by professors, in every sh upe and 
form whatsoever 

B -lieving that Theological Schools. Bible, 
Missionarv, Tract, and Sunday School U- 
nion Socirth s, ate the same in principle — 
utfscripiural — savor more of 'lucre" than 
of "good-will towards men," we are oppo- 
sed to them. 

Some of the children of God, surrounded 
with, and interspersed amongst, the advo- 
cates of Missionary and other societies, are 
denied the happiness of conversing with 
those of the same judgment. Others, 
while giieved with beholding corruptions 
of the doctrine and practice of the gospel, 
are not able to speak for themselves. This 
is designed, under God, for their relief. 
We shall aim not so moch to phase the fan- 
cy, as to inform the judgment — more to af- 
ford matter for solid and lasting comfort, 
than to give a momentary glow to the feel- 
ings. We consider that the cause of truth 
and of Christian solace, is our cause. Deep- 
ly impressed with the belief that the blessing 
even of truth itself is of the Head of the 
Church, we cast ourselves upon Him, and 
send our little paper abroad, praying 'he 
Lord to carry with it some joy to those who 
are in tribulation, and a little rest to those 
who are troubled. 


WilUamsfon, N. C. Dec, 29///, 1840. 
Dear brethren Editors: At near the close 
of this present year, which you will get in the 
first of next year, 1 again address you these few 

lines, informing you that I am still on the land 
churches and Associations, to avoid unpleasant V v i t h the living, and now advancing on in my 
and unprofitable collisions— controversies on these ' seventy-fifth year since the I2th day of Novem- 

subjects will be, therefore, carefully excluded. 

her past; enjoying the blessings of heaven, and 
likewise the privilege of hearing from the favored 

This publication is principally intended i sons of God, in many parts of these United States 
to defend tbe<01d School United Baptists ! a"d Territories, to my great joy, And I find that 
from the m my aspersions cast upon litem | Old School Baptist principles are reviving and 
by deluded persons professing their own 'spreading, and the sons of Zion uniting in the 
faith, bee uise they cannot conscientiously good cause of the Redeemer, and enjoying sweet 
engage in the vat ions money-making fellowship one with another. And to increase 
schemes of the day, ostensibly intended to that happy state I would say now to you, that 
pro mote Christianity, but t video ily tending we have fired our cannon and small arms so much 
to destrov the great and fundamental princi- at the New School and missionary systems, that 
pies upon which it is based, by making a thejTuovr know where we a e, and ready to up 


pose tliem when lliey further intrude on God's Is- 

And as we have born so mnrli engaged in the 
aforesaid honorable work, that it is time Cor some 
small respite; instead of filing more at ihese 
sneaks and interlopers, let us be more engaged to 
keep up our own camp fires. And in order to do 
this, sav as David of old did: "-Come all you that 
fear God, and I will tell you what lie has done 
for my soul." You know by good experience, 
that to gain Christian fellowship, when you hear 
any one relate their hope cf salvation, in relating 
their experience of grace; and if you have reason 
to believe the work that they relate is of God, you 
thereby gain fellowship and Christian unioiii 

Then, brethren, let us relate our experiences of 
grace to each other, through this happy medium 
the Primitive Baptist; which will cause the bonds 
of union and fellowship to increase and be 
strengthened to our good feeling. As proof, when 

wrafc, and your trials so great, that you feel as tf 
yon should hardly be able to stand the threatening 
storms that seem still to await youl To 6uch a 
one 1 say, don't despair; be of good cheer, Jesus 
still stands at the helm, he has made your en- 
trance into the port possible, and will at last con- 
duct the little bark, though much shattered by the 
repeated storms to which she may be exposed, in- 
to the port of everlasting rest. 

Brethren, pray for the grace of Jerusalem, the 
prosperity of Zion; and may God hear the petition 
of his people and give us such evidences of his 
power and goodness, as to cause great joy through- 
out all his churches. Farewell. 




\coording to promise the following 
some of our good brethren have done so before,] work is now in pre*s, viz: V\ illiam Hunt- 

a glorious time through the whole of the year 
1841. Farewell in the Lord. 

JO S. BIGGS, Sen'r. 


Sruth Quay, Sou/hampfnn eounty, Ya. 
Oct, 1840. 

that it did revive our spirits; and let us still do so, mgton upon universal charity, pursued 

to the joy and gladness of all the brethren in J nnd taken by Mr. Zeal for God, examined 

Christ Jesus. I)i fore Mr, Gosj el Experience, the magis- 

So, brethren, I wish yon a happy; pew year.and trale; found guiity and delivered up to 

| Mr. Election, the jailor: then brought be- 
j fore Mr. Discerning of Spirits, the deputy 
judge; there tried and condemned. 

Togethir with letters on Ministerial A- 
bility's detecting errors, and some com- 
ments on datk passages of scripture. 

Ai>o, the Naked Bow of God, or a visi- 
ble display of the judgments of God on the 
enemies of It tit h. 

The last W ill an 1 Testament of William 
Huntingion, a servant of Christ and of the 
church for bis sake. Also, a preface to 
bis will. 

Five thousand copies will be done by 
the middle of February. Price single co- 
py, #1 25 cent:-; by the quantity, Jgl 00. 
Cliei'ks/pn specie pining hanks will be ne- 
cessary from a distance, and books will be 
foi win tied to onler. Address the subscri- 
ber, po-l paid, or T. C. Trice, Mt. Morne, 
Pike couniy, and prompt attention will be 
given. 1 think any real Christian who 
reads it through attentive^-, will acknovvl- 
BearCrtek, Henry co. Ga. 

Dear Dretiiuen Editors: If ever there has ' 
been a need of watchfulness, a time to eiect new ! 
altars and build up old ones around every fireside* '' 
now is the time. It is when Zion travels that 
she bringeth forth, and it is when iniquity abounds [ 
that the love of many will wax cold. Take warn- 
ing then, brethren, by the clouds of darkness that 
st-em to overshadow you; hold up the little light I 
that still remains, that it may yet be seen as a bril- I 
liant spark, yes, as a city that is set on a hill, that 
all who may take knowledge of you may say in 
trnlh; that you have been with Jesus. Let con- 
tention die among the Old School Baptists, but 
religion live: and instead of talking and writing 
about such things as are unprofitable and vain, let 
us he talking and writing about the goodness of 
Israel's God, his power to save, and his dealings 
with our poor unworthy selvesi How is it with 
you all now! 

Brethren in the old Kehukee Association, I long 
to see you and be with youi Is the cause of God 
prospering? Are you making such headway that 
you can rejoice in the anticipation that you have 
arrived almost at your destined port, your haven 

edge himseif v\ei 


Luthersville, Merritcelher county, Ga. 

Nov. 16/A, 1S40. 

Dear brethren Editors: 1 feel dis 

posed to give you a few of my feelings in 

of eternal rest] Or, brethren, is your faith so : words. 1 will give the subject on which I 


pkimhivl; baptist. 

shall predicate my remarks. Paul lo Ti- 
tus, 3d, chap, and 5lh verse: Not by works, 
of righteousness which we have done, bul 
according lo his mercy he saved us, by 
the washing of regeneration and renewing 
of the Holy Ghost. G h. Which he shed 
on us abundantly throng!) Jesus Christ our 

I will answer for myself, and let all 
my brethren and sisters do ihe same. 
Before God and my brethren, I feel un- 
worthy to claim a seat and a name with the 
church of Christ. I declare to have no 
works of righteousness to justify me as a 
citizen in Zion; for if I am a Christian, it 
is by grace alone. 

1 will gi\e you a short sketch of my 
life so far. I was raised moral, my mother 
learned me seme lilile prayers. 1 never 
swore an oath until 1 took a family. Af 
ter that, the principle tint dwelt iu my 
heart, began lo flow out into practice for 
several years. Yet I often thought of 
death and judgment, which made me trem- 
ble; yet I believed I had some righteous- 
ness, and when I reduced it to practice, 
God would love me. So 1 lived upon do 
better some years, at the same time doing 
as bad as my wicked heart could direct, 
until about the first of April, ISIS. 1 
don't know that I had been to meeting or 
heard a sermon for six months. One mor- 
ning, a little alter sunrise, I was plowing 
and meditating upon the goodness of God 
toward men, the prospect of vcgetaiion 
beautiful. A thought struck me, how 
quick the Lord could consume it; and 1 ac- 
knowledged it just, yet regretted the loss. 
1 was tin n near the end of my row. A 
question dropt to me. Suppose it should 
be destroyed, what would that he to your 
own soul? 1 declare to you, brethren, I 
never knew before that moment that 1 
had a soul. When 'he hoi n blew for break- 
fast, 1 was standing and pleading guilty be- 
fore God. 

Sometime afler, I thought of my good 
works that I had alwa)S been depending 
on; but 0, brethren, my heart condemned 
me, my prayer filled with sin, and 1 found 
it just in God to frown upon me. So I 
remained for about three months, when 1 
took a little Bible, which I would often 
retiic and read, which I kept hid in the 
woods. But O, my brethren, my little 
Book condemned me, yet 1 loved it. 1 
thought my case was worse then any ones, 
it was a very cold time of religion, 1 had no 
friend to go ti on earth, and 1 thought 

none in heaven. One morning I went to 
read my lilile Book, and read this pasngc: 
If the Son therefore make you fiee, ) on 
shall Ik* free indeed — which filled my sool 
with love toward God, yet I had no hope, 
though my guilt appeared to be measura- 
bly removed. 

Some days :f!er, I had a view that Christ 
stood bitween n,e and the Father, which 
gave me a little hope that God had made 
me a citizen in Zion; bul not by works of 
righteousness which I had done, but ac- 
cording to his mercy he saved me by the 
washing of regeneration and renewing of 
the Holy Ghost; so I believed wiih my 
heart and with my mouth made confession. 
1 have no hope of ever doing an}' good 
work whereby I shall merit at the hands of 
my Master. O, brethren, if I am a Chris- 
tian, it is by grace alone; so, little children, 
I think I know I he path you travel in the 
mud holes, briers, and thorn thickets, that 
you are found ofitimes in; which grieves 
your spirits and you say, 0, am I a child in- 
deed. 0, remember your Redeemer abides 
faithful and he keeps his little children as 
the apple of his eye, and carries them in 
his bosom ami not one of the hairs of your 
head can fall lo ihe ground without his 
notice. May the Lord deliver us from the 
evils of this world, is my prayer. 

Dear brethren, in ihe year 1S37, I was 
set apart to the ministry, and since that 
time, though uuworthy as I am, 1 have 
served from four to six churches a year; 
which is sinking my constitution very fast; 
yet to feed the church of God, which he 
lias purchased with his own blood, is my 
soul's delight. My study is lo understand 
the gospel and preach it, so that, it will 
un'te with its kindred spirit in the souls 
of Christ's dear children, and thereby save 
them from Ihe evil ol'ihis world. I must 
close on this part, as I have a word to my 
preaching brethren. 

Dear brethren preachers, we know Ihe 
discipline of the gospel to be the glory of 
the church of Christ on earth; therefore, 
we as the servants of our Master, should 
act like him. Am! if we throw our chuncks, 
we should turn our hands upon the liitle 
ones, lest we hurt them; for if we hurt the 
children, we hurt ourselves. And what 
does our master ihreallen us with? I heat- 
much said about usury, and when I hear it 
thunder and clouds begin to gather, I look 
for rain. I have but little lo say on that 
head, 1 think gain tube usury, and I think 



yon are straining at the wrong corner. I 
will instance a case. 

A, H, C, and 0, have an equal capital 
of one thousand dollars. A lays out one 
half of his capital, hut using industry and 
economy as he is commanded before God 
and man, soon regains his capital. B covi- 
ting the world, lays out. all his capita!, at 
the end of the year he hardly can bring 
his ends together. ButC, still more gree- 
dy of gain, he lays out all his capital, then 
strains his ciedit fur as much more to his 
follow being, at the close of the year he is 
found in debt one thousand dollars and not 
one doilar to pay with. 0,what tales he now 
can tell his creditor; if you sue me, my 
property must sell. Creditor says, I must 
have my money or my family must suffer. 
Mr. A. you must loan me some money or 
I shall be ruined. A says, my money is 
worth more then eight per cent. yes, 
Mr. A, I know your money would bring 
more, but there is that cruel sin called I 
usury, 1 bate for you to be guilty of it, but 
I will give you twelve per cent, for it with | 
good security: A says, I want to lay my 
money out for help for my family. (), no, 
you must let me have it, or I shall be ruin- 
ed. A consents and lets him have his mo- 
ney and thereby exhausts his capital to 
save C. I ask now, who has sinned? Is 
not extortion, covetousness, lying, and 
being greedy of filthy lucre, all a sin? (a 
hint to the wise is sufficient.) Has A op- 
pressed the hireling? has he swindled the 
orphan? has he robbed the widow? has he 
distressed O? or, has C distressed him- 

D lives high, uses no industry nor econ- 
omy, until his capital is exhausted: to la- 
bor he won't, to steal he is afraid, his fami- 
ly suffer, complying with not the first re- 
quisition that God has required at his hand ; 
while A, B,jarid their childien ate laboring 
with their hands, eating their bread by the 
sweat of their face, taking care of what 
God confers upon them, their table spread 
with plenty, D is suffering for bread, 
raising his family up in idleness, to Sab- 
bath breaking, to trolloping through the 
woods instead of labor, but comes to A. 
Neighbor A, my family is without any 
thing to eat, you must let me have some 
corn, or a little meat. A says, I know 
your family is suffering, and almost naked; 
me and mine would be no better, sir, if 1 
were to act as you do; but me and my chil- 
dren have to labor for a living, and 1 J 
not think that it is right to take my chil- 

dren's labor and give it to support you and 
yours in your idleness. Come, sir, I have 
corn a plenty and meat a plenty, here is 
the hoe or mattock, I will pay you every 
night for your labor. Mr. A. 1 can't work 
for you, I have so much to do. 

I ask, is A right to uphold extravagance, 
covetousness, extortion, laziness, and ly- 
ing, with many other evils? From such 
as these the industrious man generally re- 
ceives a bad name. He is getting rich, he 
is "rowing proud, he don't care for the 
poor, he is a respecter of persons, with 
many other blots does he receive. I ask, 
before God and man, who has done all this 
evil? I myself have been acquainted 
with this evil, I have loaned for usury and 
have given usury. 1 have also loaned to 
many of my fellow beings and taken their 
notes twelve months after date, for the 
sum that I let them have; some of which I 
now hold, though it were to redeem their 
property from under the hammer. Say to 
them I want my money, and it seems to 
be offensive and they reply, if I must, 
there is my property, take it and sell it, 
which is but poor satisfaction. I individu- 
ally never expect !o try to make another 
dollar in life, hut expect to use my capital 
so as to make it g'dn, and if (his be a sin, I 
shall have it to bear. So ou this part I con- 

A word to mv beloved brother James 
M. Rockmore, whom 1 esteem near and 
dear as I do my own self; who has waded 
through many difficulties with me, iij 
bi inging the church of Christ out of the 
speculating systems of the day. 1 have 
always hid the utmost confidence in broth- 
er Rockmore, and yet have; but Jim won't 
do to depend on far. Brother Rockmore, 
I wish you to ask Jim if there is any differ- 
ence between a. national church and the 
gospel church; if yea, what is the differ- 
ence? Ask Jim if the government of the 
gospel church is the same as the national 
church; if nay, what is the difference? 
Brother Rockmore, ask Jim if the Chris- 
tian is to be justified by externals, what 
does the doctrine of the new birth and 
virtual and actual justification mean? If 
they mean that they are justified by ex- 
ternals, what are we to do with an item 
in our faith, and the doctrine of the coven- 
ant, predestination, &c. Also ask Jim, if 
the discipline of the gospel authorizes us 
to blend the world with the church and 
make us all swindlers; if nay, should we 
not act with some precaution in throwing 



©uk chunks 

A word lo brother Moselev 

I hope it will 

So I conclude with brother catered some weeks since. 

arrive in tunc, and be acceptable and al- 
[ :ic so satisfactory : sickness of my self and fam- 
ily i as prevented its being sent sooner. 

We receive your paper regular now, and 
are much pleased with it, as it speaks our 
eternal truUi according to our feelings. 1 
come lo a close by subscribing myself 
yours, in Christian bonds. 


knowledge we have a set of poor imperfect 
Baptists in our section, but 1 do not know, 
brother Bill that we have any such, as 
some you implicate in your remarks; and 
if you have such, discipline them well be- 
fore they come to our country. In all the 
churches thai I have attended, since the 
Primitive Baptist's have come out from 
the mixed multitude, 1 have never heard 
of but three cases of drunkenness: and 1 
pray God, that he would enable his chil- 
dren solo act that 1 may never hear of 
another case of intoxication. 

Now a word to the church, whose peace 
I love in my soul, for whom 1 am willing to 
spend and be spent, and make a sacrifice of 
all worldly enjoyment and even my own 
life, that you might enjoy the peace which 
God alone can give. As a feeble servant 1 
pray you to keep the usury question out 
of the church, fur you w ill find it to be a 
complicated matter and will meddle with 
the internal lights of men; and if there he 
evil, it exists with the component members 


Chilhoivce. East Tennessee, 
October 181 ft, 1840. 

Brethren Editors; For the first time 
I sit down to write a few lines. Though a 
stranger in the fish to the most of you and 
mountains separate us, yet when 1 read 
the communications from the biethren 
ihrougbout these United States, I am 
bound to say ihat I think they are chihhen 
of the same parent. And it rejoices me 
to think, that the Lorn has yet a goodly 
number that have not bowed the knee to 

Brethren, we have mocking Ishmaels in 

of the body. Bui say to your brethren, to I this country, as well in other parts of the 

beware of covetousntss and grinding the 
face of the poor. 

So farewell. This is the first p ; cce 1 
have ever sent to be published in the Prim- 
itive in my own name, and know not 
wlnther I ever shall attempt to wiite again. 
1 love the pape-, but if it. should become 
the vehicle through which calumnies are 
to be thrown upon the church, it will be 
sure to prove a cuise to us as a denomina- 

Dear brethren, if I know my heart I 
have wrote this with tl e best of feelings. 
The reason I t.ike the liberty 1 have taken 
with brethren Rockmore and Moselev is, 
from my intimate acquaintance with them 
and Christian regard 1 have for' them. 

world, l'he Old School Baptists heteare a 
p >or, persecuted, despised people, surroun- 
ded by a host ol enemies. But we have 
a few preachers here that preach the doc- 
trine, by giare ye are saved through faith, 
not of works, lost any man should boast. 
Bui this kind of doctrine does not suit ev- 
ery body, for I think the time has come 
that people cannot endure sound doctrine, 
but are trying to heap up to themselves 
teachers having itching ears, &c. 

Brethren, ! believe if the Lord dors not 
call and qualify a person to preach his gos- 
pel, it is like it was in the time of David's 
reign, when Ah-alom wasslain. Although 
they may run very fast, and outrun the 
true servant of the Lord, ye! they have no 

Finally, brethren, 1 commend you to I tidings, and can only tell that there was a 

God and to the word of his grace, which is 
able to build you up and to give vou an 
inheritance among all them which are 
sanctified. Farewell. 



Bluke.hj, Early county . Ga.l 

5th October, 1*40. $ 
Dear brethrkn Editors: 1 hrre-with 
inclose you ten dollars for the twelve cop- 
ies of your most excellent paper that 1 or- 

great tumult, like Ahimny. But wiien 
Coshi, the servant of the Lord comes, he 
can tell that the king's son is dead. Yes, 
brethren, they can tell that Christ has died 
and risen again, a triumphant conqueror 
over death, lv II, and the grave; and Ihat he 
has led captivity captive, and is giving 
gifts unto men. And that there is a *\ay 
that .seerneth tight unto man, but the end 
thereof is death. 

But it is f-aul that the Baptists have need 
of learned preachers as well as other de- 
nominations. Well, let that be with the 



Lord. F"r if he Wards a learned Paul, h - 
knows how to choose him; or, if he waniS 
an unlearned fisherman, he knows where 
to find him, without the aid of feeble mart 
For who knows the mind of t lie Lord, 
Or who has been his counsellor? 

Brelhten, I have been rcadingfbe Primi- 
tive for the last, tvvo years; and ii is always 
a bundle of good news from a far couniiy. 
I hive been made to ffjoice lo hear from the 
brethren in different pails, who are saying. 
While at other times I feel to weep with 
those thai arc weeping over the languish- 
ing slate of Zion. Bill the<r man 
Says, there is a time for all filings. I hope 
that ihe time is not far distant, when the 
Lord will revive his work in our land once 
more, and build the walls of Zion again, 
and restore the captive to perfect liberty; 
when he will cause the blind to see, the 
lame to walk, and the dumb to talk. But 
let us Watch and pr-iy , for blessed is that 
servant that is found watching when his 
Lord coim-th. Again, beware of false 
prophets, which Come to you in sheep's 
Clothing, but inwardly they are ravening 
wolves. Ye shall know them by their 
fruits; do men g.ther grapes of thorns, and 
figs of thistles, &c. 

Brethren, I must come to a close. Per- 
haps 1 have wrote too much, without it 
Was more to the purpose: hut seeing a wid- 
ow's mite was received, it being all she 
had, I hope if yon find any thing in these 
lines worth a place in your piper you will 
give room in some corner, if not, throw it 

Brethren, farewell in the Lord, live in 
love, live in peace, and may the God of all 
grace be wilh'you, world without end. I 
subscribe myself a poor doubting Thomas, 
and lay member in gospel bonds. 



Lexington, Holmes co. Mississippi, ~) 
Oct. 19M, 1840. 5 
Dear brethren Editors: Through 
the mercies of an all-wise providence I 
again take up my pen to address you a few 
lines on the all important subject of reli- 
gion, though unworthy I be; for I can 
freely own, if 1 am a Christian I am the 
least of all. If 1 am not mistaken, Paul in 
some of his letters says: As vou receive 
Christ, so walk you in him. Oh, that we 
all m:iy recollect thai, that w c may not. tic 

'ifted up w[th pridi ; for so certain as we 
ue lifted up u'iih pride, we will fill. 
Therefore^ brethren, we should pray God, 
that he should direct our steps, that he 
would causa us to walk before him in love, 
that we should obey all his command- 
ments; in line, that we should fulfil the 
law of Christ. 

Brethren, be not high minded, but fear. 
But what, kind of f ar is licfe meant? Mr. 
Wesley tells us th;<t the f ar of hell is one 
of the great Guises of Ihe Chfi-tian's perse- 
verance. I must beg leave to differ- from 
Mr. Wesley and say, that this is not in my 
Opinion the kind of fear meant; but that 
you should far him from a principle of 
love; that you should fear that you would 
disobey his holy command-; that you 
would fear that you would not take up 
your Cross and follow him, through evil as 
well as through good report; that you 
wou'd not love your brother as you ought; 
in fine, that as you hope you luve received 
Christ, you would fail to walk in him. 

The question arises, how did we receive 
Christ? Well, 'now did you? is the ques- 
tion. Was it for your good prayers, that 
you did receive him? was it for breaking 
off from your sins? was you lifted up in 
your own estimation? was you looking up- 
on God as being unjust, if he damned as 
just a person as \ ou was? did you look up- 
on yourself as being belter than almost any 
other pi-.rson, and thought that if you was 
a member of any church, that there were a 
great many memb is that you coul I not 
fellowship? Was you thus exalted, in 
your own mind, and did you want God to 
conform unto you? I can answer for eve- 
ry Christian that you did not; but even 
your good prayers (as you thought) were 
as filthy rags. In the place of breaking olf 
from your sin, you saw yourself of all men 
most miserable, though you had broke off 
from profaning his holy name. in the 
place of being lifted up in your own con-, 
ceit you would freely exchange your state 
wiih the beasts of the field; neither did 
you look upon God as being unjun if he 
damned you, but to the contrary you could 
not see how God could be just and the justi- 
lier of as vile a sinner as you. You did not 
look upon yourself as being great, but, as 
Paul says, you was as a cage of unclean 
birds; that you was full of wounds, bruis- 
es, and pulrifyihg sores, from the sole of 
the foot to the crown of the head. You, 
was in your own estimation of all men 
most miserable. You was then willing tu 



receive Christ on his own terms, and, to 
be shoit, you had given up all as lost, and 
resolved in your mind what you would do. 
I will fall at his feet and beg; for mercy, 
saying:, Lord if thou damn me, it is just; 
but if there is mercy in store, let it come. 

Right here when you had spent all your 
change, when you found you could do 
nothing, when you found ifyou was saved 
at all it must be by grace, Jesus meets with 
you; and in a small still voice says, peace-, 
be still ; or, fear not, little flock, for it is thy 
Father's good pleasure to give 3-011 the 
kingdom; or, as I trust he said to your un- 
worthy brother, if. therefore, ye seek me, 
let these go their way. Tongue can- 
not express the joys of that moment. Then 
you could see how God could be just, and 
the justifier of them that believe in Je- 
sus. It is now that you can trust him for 
all things, both in this life and in the life to 
come, and could say, b3 T grace am I saved 
through faith, and that not of myself, it is 
the gift of God. You was willing to fol- 


low the sound of your master's feet; if he is 
gone through persecution, you will follow 
him there: if he goes into the grave 3'ou 
can say, my Lord has been there and has 
gained the victory; 0, death, where is thy 
sting? O, grave, where is thy victory? 0, 
brethren, it is a happy place to beat the feet 
of Jesus, to walk humblv before him; if he 
has called you out of darkness into his 
marvelous, light, try to show forth his 
praise, and as you receive Christ so walk 
ye in him. And that he may en.ble us all 
so to do, is the prayer of your unworthy 
brother in the Lord, I hope. 



Ten Islands, Alabama, ~) 
April 23d, rS40. 3 

Bear brethren Ejmitors: The reason 
that 1 have not wrote before now is, I have 
been very busy for sometime in reading 
so many precious letters from so much 
abler pens, that I have thought that my let- 
ters would probably be in the way of some 
of them; and 1 have had some very severe 
attacks of late, by a sort of Baptists here 
that formerly did belong to Shiloh church, 
where my membership is,,till some time last 

Just before the Tall'assahafchey Associ- 
ation came on, we drew up a resolution 
declaring a non-fellowship with the whole 
stock, lock, and barrel of the men-made in- 

stitutions of the day; for which Ihey tell 
us, eight in number, and joined in with 
other kindred spirits, and have made up a 
church on liberty principles; and when I 
give them the good old scripture doctrine, 
and shew them that they have not a thus 
saith the Lord for it, they kick up at it, just 
like mules; and they call me hard shell, 
iron side, and some times they call me the 
three edged sword, and say that I cut them 
on all sides. And when any of them come 
to our meeting, they lake a far off seat, 
and look like they are mad all the time 
they sta3'; for we cannot invite them to a seat 
with us in conference, for which they com- 
plain and think hard of us. 

But, my dear brethren of the Old School 
order, I will just say as did Paul, that 
I thank God that by the grace of God lam 
just what I am. And, my dear brethren, 
I feel to rejoice that I am counted worthy 
to bear reproach for the sake and cause of 
my blessed Lord and Saviour, in whom I 
have every confidence in this life and my 
eternal all in that which is to come. And 
were it not for the several communications 
that 1 get from my brethren abroad 
through the Primitive Baptist, 1 should be 
somewhat lonesome, for 1 live about eight 
miles from any of my Old School brethren 
of the church to which I belong. But when 
1 get done my days labour, and sit down 
to read m3' very much beloved paper, the 
Primitive Baptist, 'I find so many precious 
letters from my worthy brethren, that it 
is like heavenly manna to my soul. But 
the truth it contains is very much hated' 
here by those go-bet weeners, or fence strad- 
dlcrs, who you all know cannot endure 
sound doctrine. And to such, you know; 
that the preaching of the cross is foolishness, 
but unto us who are saved, the power of 
God. And may the Lord in his mercy 
bless you all, is my pra} T er for the Re- 
demer's sake. 


Elizabeth City, North Carolina, > 
December 2lst f IS40. <Jj 

Dear brethren Editors: We re^ 
ceive the Primitive Baptist tolerably regu- 
lar, for which we feel thankful that the 
Lord has been pleased to put it into the; 
hearts of his dear children thus to have the 
chance to communicate to each other their 
love and friendship towards each other, 
and their troubles and distresses and hard 
trials whilst here below. 

Dear brethren, we have only one minis- 



tcr to atlcnd nil of our churches, and he is ;> 
good ileal ifffl'tcted, I hope thnt the Lor- 
will work in the heart's of s,ome of 1 he min 
isters ,{.o come and sse us, for il is a cold 
time with us. I must come tc a close* by 
subscribing myself yours in the bonds 
of love. Farewell. 



Boto&y, Columbia county, Ga. ~) 
December 2S/.'/, 1S40. \ 
Deak brethren Enrmns: We wish 
you to still -continue to send us your piper, 
as we love to hear of our good brethren 
searching the scrip'ure for the children of 
God and for the children of the devil; for 
we know thev both h've children. For 
Jesus himself said so, and ii does certainly 
depend on the seed; for in fsaacshall I hy 
seed be called. Dive deep, brethren, for 
unto you it is given to know the mystery 
of the kingdom; but to them in parables. 
Yours in love. 



Lccth'svWe, North Carolina, J> 
September 1 6/A, 1340. 3 
Dear brethren Editors: I write 
you a few lines to let you hear a little 
from this section of country. We have 
nothing very good, only we are generally 
in peace in this part amongst the Baptists, 
and the brethren love the truth. And I 
hope that the Lord will keep the brethren 
generally in love of the truth. I must 
close by sa} ing, I remain your unworthy 7 
brother in the best, of bonds. 





North Carolina. — .1. Biggs, Sen. Williamston. 
R. M. G. Moore, Germanton. VV. vv. Mizell, Fly- 
mouth. Jacob Swindell, Washington, James Sou- 
iherland, Warrenlon. Chafles .Mason, Rnxboro' 1 . 
James Wilder,' Anderson's 'Store, Benj. Bynum. 
Speight's Bridge. H. A vera, Averasboro' '. J. II, 
Keneday, Chalk Level. Birrwp.ll Temple, Wake co. 
Geo. w. McNeely, Leuksville. Wirii H. Vnnn, 
hong ?reek Brdge. Thomas Bagley, Smithfit\d. 
James H.Sasser, Waynesboro'. John Fruit, San- 
dy Creek. L. B. Bennett, Ileulhville. Alfred El- 
lis, Strabane, Cor's Canaday, Cruvensville, Wil- 
liam Welch, Abbott's Urccki J. Lamb, Camden, 

r 3. IT. A, Bi Bains, Tr. Stanhope. C. T. Saw- 
yer, PowdPs Point. Isaac Tillery, Lapland. 
Thomas Miller, Elizabeth City. Harris Wil- 
kerson, West Point. Isaac Alderman. Moore's Creek, 
James Miller, Milton Park. David R. Canaday, 
French's Milk. 

South Carolina. — lames TTemhree, Sen. An- 
derson C. If. Charles Carter, Cambridge. B. 
Lawrence, Effinghim. James Guiris, Seni Bold 
Spring. William S. Shaw, Bock Mills. Levi 
L"e, Blackv'Ule. Andrew Westmoreland, Cash- 
vi\\e. .Tarries J. Kirkland, Four Mile Branch. 
Ransom Hamilton, Jli'-en. Marshal McGraw, 
Brown's. John Li Simpson, Coohham, I, G< 
Bowers, Hickory Hilt, VVm, Melson, Camden, G, 
Mathews, Mount Willing. Jacob B. Higgins, 

Georgia. — William Moseley, Bear Creek. Al- 
len Clevela rd, Mcthnongh, John iYIcKeniey, For- 
syth. Anthony Holloway, Lagrange. P. M. Cal- 
houn, Kiio.vnllc. R. Reese, Eatonton. Thomas 
Amis and David w. Patman, Lexington. Jona- 
than Neel, James llollingsvvorth and Stephea 
Castellow, Macon. Charles P. Hansford, Union 
Hill. John w. Turner, Pleasant Hll. Joshua 
Bowdoin, A lairsville. R. Toler and Jas. M. Rock- 
more, Uputoie. Clark Jackson and Ahednego Mc- 
Ginty, Fort Gaines. John Gay den, Franklin. P. 
H. Edwards, Georgetown. William Trice, Thon- 
aston. Ezra YTcCrary, Warrenton. Prior Lewis, 
Rodney. lohn Lassetter, Vernon. B.Pace, Van Wert. 
L. Poacoek, Cassvil/e. V. D.Whatley, Barnesville. 
Alex. Garden and Thomas C. Trice, Mount. Morne. 
EliasO. Hawthorn, Bainbridgt J. G. wintring- 
ham, Florence. William Mi Amos, GreenviWe. 
Randolph Arnold, Latimer's Store. Thomas .Ti 
Bazemore, Clinton. Jo^iah Stovall, AquiWa. G. 
P.Cannon, CuWodcnmlle, Jason Grier, Indian 
Springs. VVm. Vl-cEIvy, Attapulgus. Furna Ivey, 
I Milledgcville. Wm. Garrett, Cotton River. Jesse 
I Moore & John TIardie, frwinton. Leonard Pratt, 
j Whitesmlle. Edward Jones, Decatur. A, Heo- 
| don, Shi\o. A. G. Simmons, Hickory Grove, 
I John Lawhon, Chenuba. John Herington, Wel- 
| bom's Mills, James P. Ellis, PineviWe, F. Hag- 
\ gard, Athens. TI. Barron, Jackson, A.MiThompsoji,. 
| Fort Valley, Josiah Gresham, White Hall. Daniel 
I O'Neel, Fowltoh. John Applewhite, Waynesboro' '■ 
! J.B.Morgan &.B.P, Rouse, Friendship. Sam'l Wil- 
I liams, Fair Play, John Wayne, Cain r s, Edmund 
I Stewart, Ilootensville. R, S, Hamrick, Carroll/on. 
David Smith, Cool Spring, Allison Spear, Flat 
Shoals, Moses Daniel, Bowery, Moses H. D«n- 
man, Marietta.- James Bush,, Biakely, Asa 
Edwards, Houston, Richard Stephens, Sen^ri 
'FarversviWe, John Stroud, KendaW. James Scar- 
borough, Slatesbortugh, Young T. Standi fee* 
Mulberry Grove, Robert R. Thompson, Centreville. 
.lared Johnson, Tronpville. Kindred BrasweU, 
Duncunsnille. Edmund S. Chambless, Stalling? 
Store. James w. Walker, Mar/borough. Edmund 
Dumas, Jo'instonriWe. David Rowell, Jr. Gron- 
oersviWe. Joel Culloy, Coo'xngton, Benjamin C. 
Burns, VWa Ricca, David Jones, Traveller's Rest. 
VV. B. Mullens, Bossville, 

Alabama. — L. B. IVfoseley, Guhawba, A. Kea- 
ton, McConico. John Bl ickstone, La Fayette. W. 
w. Carlisle, Fredonia. Henry Dance, Daniel's 
Prairie. VVm. w. Walker, Liberty Hill. Dan'l 
GafTord, Greenville. Samuel Moore, Snow Hill. 
Jfdfrn G. Walker, Miltan. Henry VV illiams, Ha- 



vana. Samuel Clay, Mount Hebron, .fames 
Daniel, Claiborne, trims • Daniel, Church Hill.' 
John Bonds, Clinton, David Johnston, Leigh/on. 
Adam McCreafy, Brooklyn. Josiah Jones. Jack- 
son. David Jacks, New Market. Sfrefrod w 
Harris, Vienna. John McQueen, Grave.*' Ferry, 
William Talley, Mount Mori.ih, Graddy Her- 
ring, Clayton. Gi w. Jeter, Pint Lata, Samuel 
Ci Johnson, Pl'.asant Grove. Win. Crutches Hunts- 
iiille. V\m. Hi Cook and H'y Petty, PieHmsoillj. 
Seaborn Hainriek, iftan!ersville. William Mel- 
ton, Blttff Fort. James Si Morgan, Daytoa. Win. 
Hyde, Gainesville, Rums Daniel, JamestOn; An- 
derson w. Bullard, Tusgegee. . Frederick Hines- 
Gaston, Zt Johns; 'tiara, Eli Me.Donaldj Fainsville. 
Wm. PoVrel\,Youngsvi\le. John Brown, Wacooca, 
Silas Monk, Horse Shoe Bend, R. Lackey, Scraper. 
James F. Watson, Abbeville, David Tread well 
and R.w. Carlisle, Mount Hickory. Sam'l T.Owen, 
Argus, Joseph H.Holloway, H izle Green. Luke 
R. Simmons, Troy. Jesse Lee, Farmersvi/le. 
William S. Armstrong, Loui.-vitle. Mark Porter, 
Demopolis, Henry Adams, Mount Hilling. Joel 
Hi Chambless, LoweviUe. EH Lot Thomas, IVil- 
liamston. F. Pickett, China Grove, James Grum- 
bles, Benton. John M. Pearson, Dadeville. W i 
J. Sorelle, Wetumpka, John D. Hoke, Jackson- 
ville. Elijah R, Berry, Cobb's Store, Willis 
Cox, Soukeehafchie. James Searcy, Irwiu/on. 
Hazael Littlefield, Ten Islands. John w. Pellum, 
franklin. Philip May, Belmont, Nathaniel 
Bradford, Mechanic's Grove, A. D Cooper, Wi\- 
Mamston, John Harrell, Missouri. .lames Id 
Jacks, Eliton. Henry Milliard, BeWville. John 
A. Miller, James Mays and James MoCreless, 
Ockfuskee. Durham Kelly, Alexandria, Josiah 
M. Lauderdale, Athens, William Thomas, Pros- 
pect Bidge. John Bishop, Jiin'r. Crocketlsville. 
James Gray, Cuscla. Thomas L. Roberts, Mmi- 
rocviWe. Morgan Howard, Centrevitle. James 
Hildreth, Pleasant Flaius. William Devlin, Gai- 
ner's Store, 

Tennessee. — Michael Burkhalter, Ghceksville. 
Thomas K. Clingan, Smith's X floods. William 
E. Pope, Philadelphia. Aaron Compton, Som- 
erville. Asa Newport, Mecsville. James Maul- 
den, Van Buren. Solomon Wm. 
Croom, Jackson. Sion Bass, Wee Forks, John w. 
Springer, Sugar Creek. Smith Hansbrough, Jacks 
Creek, William Si Smith, Winchester. Isham 
Simmons, Calhoun. Thomas Hill, Seriervi/le. 
Thos. B.Yeates, Lynchburg, C .T. Echols, Mifflin. 
Aaron Tison, Medon. Levi Kirkland and George 
Turner, Wavefly. Abnctf Steed, Mulberry, Henry 
Randolph, Snodysville, Pleasant A. Witt, Cheek's 
X Bonds. J. Cooper, Unionville. Michael Bran- 
son, Long Savannah. Jasi II. Holloway, lluze\ 
Green. William MoBee, Old Town Creek, Ben- 
jamin w. Harget, Cherryvillc, Robert Gregory, 
Carouth's X Roads. John Scallom, Shady Grove, 
A. Burroughs, Moore's X Roudsi Samuel Hag- 
gard, Davis's Mils. 

Mississippi. — Worsham Mann, Columbus. Wil- 
liam Huddleston, Thomaston, Nathan Tims, 
Kosciusko. Jonathan 1). Cain, Wuterford. Na- 
than Morris, Lexington. Charles Hodges, ! 
Cotton Gin Fort. Bejamin E. Morris, Wheel- ■ 
ing, Simpson Parks, Lockhurt's Store, Mark 
Prewett, Aberdeen, William Ringo, Hamilton. 
Jerries M. Wilcox, Louisville. Edm'd Beeman 
and Thomas II. Dixon. Macon. John Erwin, ' 


LinWtiorne., Herbert D. Buckham, Ponlntoc. Wil» 
liam Davis, Wduston. Wm.H Warren, Delsalb; C. 

Nichols, Stump Bridge. VVooten Hill, Codksvi We, 
John Davidson, Carrollton. Thomas Mathews, 
Block Hawk. 

Florida, — James Alderman and P, Blount, 
China Hill. David Callaway, Cherry Lake. John 
F. Hagan, Monlibr\lo<, 

Louisiana. — Eli Headen, Marbufyii file. Thos< 
Paxlon, Greensbo/o'. 

Missouri. — Joel Ferguson, Jackson 

Illinois. — Richard M. Newport, Grand View, 
Thomas w. Martin, East Nelson. 

Indiana. — Peter Saltzman, New Harmony. I- 
saac w. Denman, GaWatim 

Ohio. — Joseph H. Flint, Trenton. John B. 
Moses, German/on, 

Kentucky. — Levi B. Hunt, Manchester. Wash- 
ington Watts, Cpmeliiisville. Levi Lancaster, 
Canton. James Holloway, Fair Dealing. Dem- 
cey Burgess, Salem, 

Virginia. — Rudolph Rarer, Berger's Store. John 
Clark, Frtdericksburg. Wm. w. W est, Dumfries. 
William Burns, Halifax C, H, Jesse Lankford, 
Bowers's, Elijah Hansbrough, SomerviUe. Wil- 
son Davenport. White House. Arthur w. Eanes, 
EdgehWl, James B. Collins, Burnt Chimneys. 

Pennsylvania. — Hezekiah West, Houl/i Hill. 
Joseph Hughes, Gum Tree. 

New York. — Gilbert Beebe, New Vernon. 

Massachusetts. — James Osbourn, JVoburn, 


G. B. Sander.on, $6 
Alfred A ki is, 1 
(jco Simmons, 2 
I. Headon. 5 

James P. Ellis 10 
A. Borroughs "7 
Richard Stephens, 7 
.lames K. Jacks, 7 
Thos. Davis, 2 

Dennis Collins, 4 
Daniel Harris*, 1 

Wm. Bennett, 1 

Is:iac Tillery, 1 

Jonathan Noel, 5 

James P. Watson, 2 
Wm. Davis, 3 

Willie Boyakin, 1 
Win Mosflev, 5 

Geo. W. MoNeely, 2 


Allen Nettles, $3 
Wm. Sugg, 1 

H. D Beckham, 3 
V. D. Whailey, 4 
HicIiM Harrison, 1 
■I McQueen, Jr. 5 
W,llis # Cox, l 

H P. Slaughter. I 
Peter Bankston, 5 
Thomas Miller, 6 
Harris Wilkerson,. 4 
Newton Barm on, I 
Wm Welch, 1 
Joseph Davis, 1 
John vV. Pellum, 6 
J no B. Mollis, 2 
M D.HuLsonbake.3 
J. Fruit, 3 

Prior Lewis, 9 

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VOL. 6. 


No. 2. 


for the Primitive baptist. 

Hiintsville, Madison cty. Ala. ^ 
Nov. 51 h, 1840. !> 
Dear Brethren Editors: I desire 
that thy soul mayest prosper and be in 
good health, and be old men, young men, 
and little children, having an unciion from 
the holy one, whereby we may know all 
things^ and although strong like young 
men, yet like little children; for no parent 
never had more feeling, than when their 
little children are sick. Little children 
are helpless ones, and entirely dependant 
6n the parents; and. though they are sim- 
ple, and fretful, and cry, and tattle, and 
full of mischief, and want a great deal of 
nursing, they are not qualified to disgrace 
their parents, and bring down their grey 
hairs with sorrow to the grave. In all these 
divine relations are displayed the overshad- 
owing of the Holy Ghost, and the pow- 
er of the highest, by which we are made 
partakers of the divine nature. Then re- 
generation must be the action of the Holy 
Spirit, at the instance of God's will; for 
if the sinner is the subject acted upon, he 
cannot be his own actor upon any principle 
of law that I have ever read. And in all 
ihis, I think there can be nothing licentious; 
for if I understand the doctrine of predes- 
tination, it contends for the doctrine of re- 
pentance, weeping, mourning, crying, seek- 
ing, praying, and all the divine exercises 
6f grace in the soul; but contends for them 
as the fruit of grace. And here is the dif- 
ference between the Arminian and predes- 
tinarian: the Arminian contends that they 
are the cause of grace, therefore man is the 
cause of his own salvation; which must be 

the Judaizing principle. Now I beg tp 
say this much, that the scriptures abuncf- 
antly declare that the fallen slate. of man is 
death; this is the term that the Bible saw fit 
to use. 

Now, brethren, what do you mean when 
you say to one of your neighbors, that 
such a neighbor is dead? Now, my dear 
brethren, rejoice to be found walking in the 
truth, lor no lie is Of the truth, proceed it 
from an angel's mouth. Is it possible 
that we understand the term , death 
vvhen used in the Bible, different from 
the sense it has in every other instance it 
ever had on earth? Here is the rock upon 
which the religions world split, if I judge 
right; for if we did all believe the Bible, 
like we believe ourselves and wish every 
body e!*e to believe us, it would be the 
healing balsam of ten thousand bitter 
complaints against the poor old predestina- 
rian. I ask any man on earth, if the small- 
est infant or largest man that is dead is ev- 
er raised from the grave? That almighty 
power that made the world must do it, and" 
all those that that power does not raise 
must lie there; just so it must be in raisin* 
sinners from the grave of sin. And I am 
as much pleased with universal sahation as 
any other person in this world, if it was 
the truth, but God has not made it the truth 
and I cannot alter it. 

Now, brethren, I look at things this way: 
In all societies, both civil, religious, and 
political, thai there should be some corn! 
mon centre, the principle of incorporation; 
therefore, take away the constitution pf 
our government, and where will be the 
happiness of its members; and take away 
the covenant of grace out of the Bible, and it; 
seems to me something like a blank book.- 
I behold Aaron the type of Christ, 
and if we prove more in the amityp® 



than Is in the type we prove nothing Be- 
hold Aaron at the instance of God's com 
mind, go into the most holy place, with 
blood which was the life of the sacrifiiM ; 
then he had lite life of all those that sacri- 
fice represented. Now behold ho v fjhe 
Lord clothed him, and made it death In- 
law, for Aaron to go in the most holy 
place, onlv as the Lord had clo bed him. 
Now look at the breastplate of judgment 
upon his heart containing the uritn & Lhu'm- 
mim, light and perfection; light enough to 
do peifectly tight, therefore Jesus si\s, 1 
come to do thy- «ilf, oh God. I h the breast- 
plate of judgment were all the names of 
the children of Israel, and no more, engra- 
ven on twelve stones, which were the cov- 
enanted and chosen people of God, as ana- 
lion formed for God's praise because he de- 
lighted in them. Thus says Ezefciel, thus 
Saith the Lord, I do not this for \ our sake, 
O, house of Israel, but for mine own holy 
name sake, he it known unto you,0, house 
of Israel, Ezekiel, 36 cha. 

Jesus says, thou hast given me power 
overall flesh, 1 should give eternal life 
to as many as thou bast given me. lie 
gave them to Jesus because- he loved them 
and had chosen them in him. Jesus 
gave them eternal life, because it was Ins 
Father's will that they shi'mld Wave it; for 
all things work by the counsel of bis will, 
which is his only pleasure. Thus ihe 
blood of Jesus purchased i he church, and his 
flesh the life of the wo id; therefore wick- 
ed men live in this world and enjoy all the 
blessings of life; for he is the Saviour of all 
men, but especially they that believe. 

Now, my dear brethren, you know 
that this doctrine is much objected to by 
the Arminian world. They say that if 
sinners are dead as thus represented, there 
can be no obligation, man is not accounta- 
ble; but 1 ask, if man is now iji the same 
situation, in which God created hint, in 
his own image, did the fill make no dif- 
ference in his state? or, did Adam, when 
he sinned kill the law and release him- 
self from obligation? or does any man who 
commits capital crime against the law of 
the land, destroy the force of law, and re- 
lease himself from obligation? If this be 
the fact, then we ought never to lung a 
man, or punish any crime. Bui Adam 
cutting off his right hand, destroyed hi^ 
power, and gave him no release. Then it 
is not to him that willeih, or him that run- 
neth, but God that sheweth mercy. Then 
it is the judgment of heaven and earlh, 

God and man, that sinners be punished, 
and the righteous justified, therefore sav» 
the scripture's, if tbou doest evil, sin lieth 
at the door. Thus no hodv will be lost, 
bin sinners, 3.n<\ they justly condemned. 
Therefore dear loving sinner, think on 
these things. 

You know, denr brethen, that it is the? 
common remark of the dav to call the. Old 
Baptists hard beads, iron jackets, sour sides, 
and cold hearts; I beg to say this much, 
Doctor Henry says in his commentaries, 
that lesus Christ was crucified north of Je- 
rusalem, and God commanded Moses fo 
kill the sin oil' ring and trespass offering, on 
the north side of the altar; and David says, 
beautiful for situation, the jov of the 
whole earth is Mount Zion; on the sides- 
of the north, the city of the great king. 
Now why did God place the church on the 
north side? for this very reason, that she 
might have more root than top, Tike old 
Job. The root of the matter is in them, 
God has so placed the church, that no wea- 
pon formed against her shall prosper; for 
even all the by words and hard speeches, 
serve to identify her with the word of God, 
as his people, separated and distinguished 
(rom all the nations of ihe world. 

Therefore, dear brethren, bear all things- 
with patience, fur it is in patience we ought 
to possess our souls Be careful to main- 
tain good works, a good moral character, 
for that one dark spot in your moral char- 
acter, will destroy many prayers Religion 
is an implantation of principle, a living vi- 
tal, and when you hear men say, if they 
believed the doctrine of predestination 
they would take their (ill of sin, rest assur- 
ed they are not killed to the love of sin; but 
saints are dead to sin, therefore can't live 
any longer therein, and if you could take 
the devil and hell out of the way, they cer- 
tainly would serve God from the principle 
of love. For we love him because be first 
loved us, and ha that loves God, will love 
bim that is begotten of him, ami we know 
that we love God, when we keep his com- 
mandments. This seems to be the touch- 
stone of our discipleship whh the Lord Je- 

I thought I would not write but one sheet 
of paper, I therefore must close my letter. 
1 now feel that it is a very insufficient 
communication to render any service to 
my brethren, whom I love in the tiulh. 
1 read so many interesting letters in the 
Primitive, i fear it may be put in the place 
of a better. I confess to bro. Mosdey he 



gave me some ideas on feet washing that I 
never thought of. 1 now ask him as a bro. 
to write a leller more, and give me 
his views on the sop thai Christ gave 10 
Judas, at wh:it lime il was given. I close 
with this scripture: Peace be to ail the bre- 
thren, with love and faith from God the 
Father, and from the Lord J/fjUis. Fare- 
well. WLLLMM C HUTCH Eli. 


Marlborough, Morgrin county, Ga. } 
May 13/h, 1S40. 5 
Dear brethren Editors: By the re- 
quest of many worthy brethren, though 
with much diffidence, I lake ray pen lo 
give you a short history of the church at 
Union. She was constituted in 1-10, and 
soon became a member of the Ovmulgee 
Association; where she remained, I think 
till 1^35, when t > get rid of t he missiona 
ry matters, which had taken, stronghold in 
the Ocinulgee, and wis likely to produce 
distress, she obtained a dismission an I 
joined the Yellow River. The Lord was 
pleased to bless her, and increase her num- 
ber, till she became a respectable church, 
and remained in peace and harmony until 
the commencement of 1834; when a ma- 
jority called a supply, well known by 
some to be a missionary, who proposed cer- j 
tain rule, or regulations, as conditions on 
which he would serve her. The result was, 
one member was excluded, one obtained a I 
dismission, others were retained with dif 
ficulty, the seeds cf discord were sown, 
and the missionary principles diffused ! At 
the close of the year he was rejected and 
another chosen, but not obtained, therefore 
the church remained without a pastor duiing 
the year 1835. 

In 1S36, she called one of her own mem- 
bers to the pastoral office, who refused lo 
come under the imposition of hands only 
of brethren of the Primitive order; which 
was granted, hut not effected till August. 
But previous to the ordi ation, she found 
the circumstances of the preceding year 
had placed her on doubtful ground, and 
Primitive brethren refused to administer 
the ordinances to her unless she declared 
who she was. Therefore, at her July 
meeting, she unanimously adopted the fol- 
lowing resolution: 

Whereas, many new doctrines, and many 
customs, are introduced into many of our 
sister churches, which spoil the peace and 
onion of brethren, and whereas ciicum- 

slanccs make it necessary that each church 
make a declaration of the stand she occu- 
pies. Resolved therefore, that we hereby 
declare ourselves to be of the old way, and 
that we maintain original principles, and 
that we do not. in future invite those of 
the new wav lo commune with us, and 
that we have no fellowship with them. 

Noi withstanding these things, there 
were two or three missionaries remaining 
in the church, and were well known to 
some sneaks of the vicinity, under whose 
influence and direction they acted. There- 
fore, their own preacher was rejected for 
1S37, and two fruitless attempts made to 
obtain another: yet he believing the Lord 
had a pcop'e there, continued to preach to- 
them till the close of the 3-ear. He was 
unanimously chosen again for IS3S, and 
agreed to serve. The mission party, now 
thinking themselves strong enough to car- 
rv their point, instantly moved to re< onsid- 
er the resolve of July IS36; thinking no 
doubt th >it thereby their pastor would he 
compelled to submit or fly. Hut he hap- 
pened to be of a breed that would not sub- 
mit, in \ iola'ion to the word of God, or 
his own conscience; neither would he run 
from the devil in any form that he could 
assume, while his God stood with him. 

The matter was agitated till May meet- 
ing, the mis-don party going from house 
to house diffusing their principles, and try- 
ing to mislead the sisters, to be sure to ob- 
tain a majority. The conference was a 
scene of confusion, such perhaps as never 
was before known in a Baptist church. 
The mission party were outrageous and 
could not be brought lo order, and nothing 
short of an open communion with all Bap- 
tists would suffice; the Primitives declared 
the church out of order lo make a decision, 
the other party urged it, and finally threat- 
ened to displace the moderator and appoint 
one pro tern, that would put the question. 
He however, put it, after stating the evil 
consequences, A majority was about to 
rise, to sustain the resolution; the mission 
party raised a demur, and said the matter 
was not understood, and threw some of 
the sisters into confusion, so that when the 
question was put again they did not vole 
at all; and by these means they obtained a 
majority of two, about one-third remain- 
ing neutral. The Primitivesrequested that 
their protest be recorded, which was re- 
fused, they then appointed to meet on 
Friday before their June meeting on the 
subject; the missionists sent a spy, nn4 



»ome met others on the way and turned 
them back. The Primitives however met, 
and resolved to sustain the resolution and 
maintain their stand as the true church on 
constitutional ground, for the following rea- 
sons: I; The question was a matter of fel- 
lowship, being the admission of persons to 
fellowship, for whom she hud declared non- 
fellowship; which as every body knows 
could not be done by a majority, accord ng 
to Baptist usage. 2. A majority, was un- 
fairly obtained. 3. Some of them voted 
unwittingly, contrary to their design. 4. 
Because the principles of the resolution, 
were the same of her constitution. Be- 
sides others, too tedious to mention. The 
neutrals, and one thai had voted took their 
stand with them. 

The next day, one of the mission party ob- 
jected to their pastor preaching, alter he 
had ascended the stand, and called a mission- 
rst of another church to the Moderator's 
seat. The Primitives called their preach- 
er to- take it, which he did; and after some 
time spent in confusion, he prevailed on 
them to join him in prayer; after which 
they done their business, and dismissed. 
The other party then called their man to 
the seat, chose a preacher of their own, &c. 
On the Sabbath, the}' had two missionary 
preachers on the ground, but very little at- 
tention was paid to them. At the July 
meeting, the same objector placed himself 
on the pulpit steps, to prevent the preach- 
er going up; one of the deacons, remonstra- 
ted with him, but all in vain. At leng'h 
theobjector said, 1 have brought Esquire — , 
here, and we intend to have the day. The 
preacher then rose, and ma.le two attemp-is 
to pass him without speaking, but was 
prevented; he then told him the only way 
to prevent him, was to- have him taken 
away: the objector then gave way with 
heavy threats, and the preacher proceed- 
ed without reply, and tried to preach from 
these words: Matth. 16 and IS: "I say un- 
to thee, that thou art Peter, and upon this 
rock 1 will build my church: and the gates 
of hell shall not prevail against it." But 
when the devices of the enemy used in 
former times and those of the present day 
were contrasted, the poor missionaries 
twisted as though hot water had been sprin- 
kled amongst them. 

Both parties represented themselves in 
the general meeting; the matter was inves- 
tigated,, and the Primitives received 14 to 
2. At the Association they would not 
mefet them, by that time the Primitives I 

were a majority, and hoped their trouble* 
were nearly over. They were sustained* 
as the true church, they had their preach- 
er, both deacons, the title to their land 
and house, and all ibe properly of the 
church, except the church book. But 
their opposi-rs send out for a few of those 
men, of whom it is said that they "exer- 
cise all the power of the first beast-, and 
bring fire down fiom heaven in the sight of 
men." Rev. 13 and 12, IS. They con- 
tinue blowing day and night, until a su£ 
fieiency of something is melted, to moulJ a 
goodly number of what they call mis- 
sionary Baptists, they take two of thtro 
before they have time to cool and cast 
them again, and make deacons of them. 

The next step is to cheat the old folks out 
of their honse, and I am truly sorry tfhat 
1 have such a tale to tell; but all the apolo- 
gy I have is, if the devil is found wrapped 
up in sheepskin heshouid be stripped. They 
raise a petition (not publicly but pri- 
vately,) to the Legislature then in session, 
for an act of incorporation, as the church at 
LTnion. But however sneaking and sly 
they were, the project leaked out in time 
to defeat them by an objeetory petition. 
The Primitives holding possesion all the 
while, their house keeper shut ihe doors 
and together with one of the deacons pub- 
licly forbid all intrusions. Yet they (the 
missionaries) have and do continue to break 
in, regardless of locks and every thing sa- 
cred, and are living at the expense of the 
Primitives, refusing to pay any expenses- 
but boasting and vilifying them in their pub- 
lic prints. 

Dear brethren, this sketch is given' 
almost entirely by the strength of mem- 
ory, but is believed lobe correct in the mab. 
I have strove to he concise, though it is* 
spun out to Ihe length you see. I' must 
make a few remarks before I close. 

1st. As many churches have been im- 
posed on by wolves in sheep's closing, I 
inlreat the churches of ihe Primitive order*, 
to be watchful, and if ever any man pre- 
scribes rules or legulaiions unauthorized by 
the word of God, as conditions on which? 
he will serve a church, for the Lord's sake 
let him go if he is Ihe only one in tie 
world. He lords it over God's heritage,, 
his will is hislaw, and applauses and self 
interest ate hisends. 

2l}\ If you see persons coming about 
who are very good and much distressed 
for the split in churches, saying they see 
no cause for it, they had better cease the 



L ,o retire "and give up pur just right, or to 

I submit my scribble. I have done as 
well as I could. Those who can do bet- 
ter are welcome to do so. I crave the 
prayers of my good brethren, for myself 
and forthepoor Primitives in this country. 
So farewell for ihe present. 


•trife and all live together; such men arr 
•more to be dreaded than a corn-field hog. 
they are only hunting afrotlen rail, and if 
they succeed in finding one they will let in 
all the hogs in tbesettlement;and if iheyare 
ever seen lurking round the fence, they 
should be dogged. 

■3ly. If you have any missionaries re- 
maining in any of your churches, they 
have ends to accomplish and so long as they 
have any hope of succeeding, you cannot 
drive them away; and if they do as some 
that I have known, they may go from 
house to house to lead silly women astray, 
and ere you are aware produce much dis- 
tress. And 1 think your missionists are 
just such as ours, for they call one another 
hrother, which proves them all to be of a 

4ly. O, brethren, friends and fellow 
citizens, what does the foregoing relation 1 
say to you? What! petition the civil au- 
thority to invest them with a right to pro- 
perty they never had a title for, and never 
were in possession of! not openly as hon- 
est men, but privately, as persons do when 
they seek an advantage. And after being 
disappointed, go and break locks and use 
the property as their own, and then boast 
of it Ah, methinks some good mission- 
ary will say, surely our folks do not do so. 
I say to you, that I could hardly credit my 
own senses, if it was not for the repeated 
accounts of advantages sought in a similar 
manner. One other case under my own 
knowledge, where they have petitioned 

for the discontinuance of an incorporation; , , 

A ■ , , church, was taken up lor consideration; 

And we hear ,- . , . •■ r , r . ,. 

which motion pi evaded. It was then mov- 


Fowl! own, Georgia, ~f 
October, 15, IS40. $ 
Dear Editors: The "Primitive" is 
read eagerly by some here, and ridiculed 
by others; this is what may be reasonably 
expected. The mind uncultivated by 
grace, cannot stand the doctrine con- 
tained in it. Yours, respectfully. 



The Slate of Alabama, Green county, Sat* 
tt relay before the second Lord's day 
in August, 1S40. 

The chureh at Rehobolh met in confer- 
ence, which was opened by brother Henry 
Petty, moderator, when on motion of 
bro'her Simon Murphy, seconded by sev- 
eral O'hers, an abolition paper called the 
Christian Reflector extra, was found in the 
post office at Clinton, in the county and 
Stale aforesaid, directed upon the envel- 
ope to the Pastor of Rehoboth church, and 
upon the paper itself, to the Rehoboth 

act to get the advantage. 

through he medium ot the rnmitive pa- 1 . , . . , ' , , , ,, , , vr 

=>, , . .... • - V ed, thatsaid letter be read by the clerk. No 

oers, that they are petitioning in every di-! ,. . . , ., J __ . 

v .' c ,, J r.i i . i i I opposition being made, the paper was read 

rection for the arm ottne law to be extend- , , ,, , , r ' . • '. ■ „ f) A 

.. , . r , .. . ,. i aloud by ihe clerk, after which brother mod- 

ed in their lavor: why can they not live J , , ' 4 . «> ■ . , , 

. . r,- J eralorenquiredwhatactionthechurchwould 

tinder our good republican government as , l ., , , ., „ „ 

.. P -, .',7, ft ., e \ make upon said paper: when at the sugges- 

we as others? Where are the eyes of; r ,' , , K ', r, . u e 

,->,., . ,, . J . I tion of brother Jubal Carpenter, a member of 

the people? do they not see that power is ,, .. . . , , , ,-' .. ,\.c-;_„i,„__k 

,,..£>•' . i . .. i ,u Beth ehem church, stating that their church 

al hat is wanting to destroy not only the , , , , I ,. & „„„„ „ . 

i u r^ j u . i „• i • had a so received by the same means, and 

church of God, but undermine our glorious 

constitution, and fix the yoke of bondage 
on our neck again? If we perish, we have 
had sufficient warning. O, blessed Jesus, 
injustice, tyranny, and oppression, are not 
the effects of that holy religion thou hast 
given to men. 

5ly. If any of our good brethren that 
write for the Primitive can help us by 
their counsel, it will be thankfully receiv- 
ed: just say what would be most for the 
glory of Cod, and for the good of the cause, 

from the same body of fitnatics,a similar pa- 
per, and suggesting the propriety of the Re- 
hoboth church appointing a committee to 
act in conjunction, with such committee as 
the Bethlehem church may appoint on 
her part at her next conference: when, 
on motion of brother Elijah Fortson, the 
following brethren were appointed, accor- 
ding to s-aid brother's suggestion, to meet 
at such time and place as said committee 
may deem proper, (to wit) J. H. Rainey, 
Simon Murphy, and Elijah Fortson; and 


diso the following brethren were appointed 
01 thrprto' Bothlehenij (to wit) Juhal 
Carpemer; Wm, Richardson and John 
Bonds, who«e duly ii slinl I be to take said 
paper into their s -rious consideration, and 
repoPt severally at our next con! ere nee, 
what course they believe 10 lie mast ad- 
visable that t'ie churches should pursue in 
regard to said paper, which moiion pre 
vailed. The committee after duly delib- 
erating thereon, beg leave to make the fol- 
lowing report: 

VVe vour committee, to whom was re- 
ferred a paper called anaddivss toSomhern 
Baptists, and signed by Elon Galusha as 
president, 0. S. Murray as secretary, 
have had the same under consideration, 
and do believe that as tin's abolition thing 
was found in the post office at Clinton, in 
the county aforesaid, directed to our said 
churches, and from the fact of their being 
no postage marked thereon, we are driven 
to the conclusion that there are individ- 
uals in the South, who receive these in- 
cendiary papers in packages, and then 
direct and deposit them in the various 
post offices, nearest 'o the churches f>r 
which they are designetTi Can it be, that 
there are Baptists in our midst, who are 
secretly giving countenance lo, and aiding 
and abetting the circulation of such stuff as 
is contained in the paper now before us? we 
fear that it is the case, and we deplore, 
deeply deplore the necessity we are under 
of declaring that we are from the force of 
circumstances driven to this conclusion. 
To what other can we ration dly an ive at, 
after having witnessed the fearful progress of 
innovation, causing the almost entire dis- 
memberment of the Baptist denomination in 
the South? liy bringing new and corrupting 
heresies among u*, they have caused jeal- 
ousies, heart-burnings, and evil speaking, lo 
assume the place oj' Christian forbearance 
and brotherly love; innovating upon our 
old and beloved customs, and usages, they 
have effected an entire, and irreparable di- 
vision in our beloved churches. 

And now it seems easy to discover, that 
thesime mad fanatical spirit is creeping 
out in another form. This hydra-headed 
monster, is now presenting itself in the 
form of an abolitionist, the spirit, which a I 
short time since seemed almost crazed s u its 
anxiety to take its flight for the east, al- | 
though i» could not consm! to make an i f. I 
fort to float its pinions in the breeze until 
it was literally freighted w th /none?/. And ; 
tftcf having bloated its coffers, by hogging, j 

teasing, lying, and filching from the rich, 
the poor, the orphan and widow, the bond 
and free, seems lo be content to remain: 
and to all appearances, notwithstanding we 
were told thai contributions were to be 
spent in the saving of the souls of the poor 
heathen in A>ia, &c. &c (as though God 
could not do it without the help of money,) 
it seems to be altogether probable, that hun- 
dreds ami thousands honestly though 
thoughtlessly given are »o be expended 
in an effort to create another more fearful 
division, and ultimately drench our fair 
and beloved country in blood ami carnage. 
This we know is strong language, but do 
not the signs of the times justify ii? for 
wdiat have we already witnessed? a divis- 
ion almost to madness in our political mat- 
i ters, divisions and schisms in every reli- 
gious denomination, and now an attempt to 
interfere in our rh il institutions. VV'e 
: were heretofore told lhat it was irreligious 
1 and wrong not to contribute of our sub- 
stance to send foreign missionaries to save 
the souls of the poor perishing heathen; 
millions have been contributed for lhat ex- 
pn ss purpose and of its application we know 
little or nothing: the same spirit as we 
believe is now saying to us. it is wicked 
and irreligious, not to abolish your civil 
institution. We say then, are we not justi- 
fied in our strongest remarks and conclu- 
sions? We therefore recommend the adop- 
tion of the following resolutions: 

1st Zi'esolved, That we rlo hereby dis- 
claim all fellowship, or intercourse whatev- 
er,with each & e*ery sect or denomination 
of people calling themselves Christians, who 
give I he slightest indications of a disposition 
lo meddie with, or encourage, the ab- 
olition of slavery in any place, shape or 

2nd Resolved, That ihe abolitionists of 
the north and elsewhere, with a boldness 
amounting to imprudence itself, manifest 
a decided determination still to press their 
fanatical claims upon us, showing respect 
to neither state or church, that we feel 
bound asa denomination to say to them, 
in defence of ours. Ives and posterity, lhat 
we hold their principles in utler contempt, 
and admonish them, nay warn ihem, not to 
disturb us with any more of their fanatical 

3rd Resolved, That should there be 
Hap is's. or persons of any Other denomina- 
tion, in Alabama, or Green county, who are 
engaged ;n the odious and shameful prac- 
tice of hgwhing and circulating secretly or 


otherwise, abolition incendiary papers, ja predcsfinarian building will not hnr- 
thereby encouraging a disposition to insur- ' monize with an Arm in ran Foundation. For 
rection, and eonsequenli y the ultimate . instance, to suppose, (for there is no text 
destruction of some of our population, we j in I ho Bible says it.) that man died a spir- 
admonish them to pause a moment, and itual death, and that the spirit of God sin- 

cover themselves with shame and confu- 
sion, and forever retire from so shameful a 
practice, as being beneath a man, and more 
especially one professing to be a Chris- 

4th Resolved, That from the great (lis po- 
sition manifested by many to ruin the char- 
acter and detract, from I he useful u-ess of our 
aged and beloved pastor Henry Petty, we 
would say to the venders of those vile sheets, 
he is too honest to be corrupted by yon, 
and entirely Out of the reach of your ma- 
licious shafts. 

5th Resolved, That this preamble and 
resolution be signed by the whole com- 
mittee, and thai the same be published in 
the Alabama Beacon, and that the clerk 
of each chinch be requested jointly to send 
a copy thereof directed to E!on Galusha, 
President of the American B<pti*t Anli- 
slavery Convention, both at New York city 
and YVorcester, Mass. 

Simon Murphey, 
J H Rainey, 
Elijah For (son, 
Jubal Caipenler, 
Wni Riehardson, 
John Bonds, 

The foregoing preamble and resolutions 
were unanimously received by both 
churches. Jno Bonds. C. C. 

J H. Rainey, C. C. 


East Nelson, Illinois, ) 
December 1th, 1^40. \ 

Dear Brethren: As it becomes ne- 
cessary for us to write, in order to let our 
much esteemed publisher know that we 
still wish to take the Primitive, and as 
there is much difference of opinion on the 
subject of religion; we feel willing to 
show you our opinion, on some few 
points: Prove all, and hold fast that which is 

In the first place, dear brethren, 1 want 
to say, be careful that the first or foundation 
principles of your system be correct: oth- 
erwise inconsistencies will arise, and ap 
pear to the disadvantage of tiuth: for it is 
hard to establish correct ideas, when we 
hold wrong principles; or in other words. 

ned and fell from the upper Bethel (and 
that without a cause too, other than God,) 
where is the ground to prove that the 
saints will be safe, should they get to hea- 
ven, or "here is the ground to hold the 
final perseverance of the saints? God is 
the same he was; we have no account of 
his changing; if it depends on their will, 
they may and they may not. Hut Paul 
says (1st Corinth. 15, 45,) that Adam was 
not spiritual but natural, he was made 
a living soul; but the second Adam was a 
quickening spirit. The first man is of the 
earth, earthy. 

I understand that God made a material 
world, and made man of the dust of the 
ground in the image of God; that is the top 
piece of creation, as Lord of this earth 
with his bride and his children in him 
j n a tu rally, as Christ possessed his bride and 
.children in him spiritually. Christ is our 
j spiritual head and life, and father Adam 
S was only the material head possessed of 
j rationality and greater faculties and pow- 
j ers than any earthly creature. But Solo- 
{ mon says, (Eccl, 3. 19, 20,) That a man 
hath no pre-eminence above a heast. They 
have al one breath, all are of the dust, 
and all turn to dust again. It is evident 
that man possessed a spirit of animation or 
natural life; but we have no account of his 
being a spiritual being. He became a 
living soul, which is quoted to prove that 
he was spiritual; but our translators attri- 
bute a living soul to the beasts See Gen- 
esis 1st, 30, wherein there is life! that is, a 
living sou! in the margin. Christ says, that 
which is born of the flesh is flesh, and lhat 
which is born of the spirit is spirit. 
Here we see lhat a spiritual birih is neces- 
sary to prepare us for a spiritual kingdom. 
Some suppose if man was only earth}', lhat 
there must have been some imperfection 
about him; but the scripture is plain to me, 
that all tilings in earth and heaven the 
Lord made, was good and I have no doubt 
but would have remained sofoiever, had it 
not been for the capturing coriupting pow- 
er of darkness. Is it not possible for a 
good being to sin? surely it is, for sin or 
transgression flows from a cause. The 
san^e cause the same effect, and Christ 
says, a good tree cannot bring forth evil 
fruit; no fountain car. produce that 



which is not in it. Cut the Lord knew 
what the old serpent the devil would do, 
and provided a Saviour even before the 
highest pans of the dust of the earth was 
formed: yes, the Lord had a knowledge 
pf evil, lor he placed the knowledge of it 
in the garden. 

If there are any of you, dear brethren, 
that believe that evil sprang out of God's 
good creaiion, let me remind you that the 
Lord created the heavens and the earth and 
all things therein in six days, and all very 
good; yet here was the knowledge of good 
and evil in the garden at the same lime. 
Can an effect flow without a cause? God 
is the fountain of goodness, he is perfection, 
the opposite to evil. Can a fountain send 
forth sweet water and bitter? Some con- 
clude that God laid a snare, or tempted 
angels, by giving them a seemingly unjust. 
law. Is it not as wrong to lay a plan to 
induce others, ns to sin ourselves? But God 
cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempt- 
elh he any man. The command given to 
angels, which is quoted (Hebrew, 1st, 6th,) 
was probably 4000 years after the fall; for 
it was then that Christ was brought in io the 
world, and the angels appeared and wor- 
shipped &6cQ?.:ding tq the command. Luke 
2nd, 10th and 14ih. Has the Lord ever 
given a positive command, which has not 
pr will not be obeyed? My word shall net 
return void, says the Lord. One jot or 
one tittle of the law shall in no wise fail, 
till all be fulfilled. If ye love me, ye will 
keep my word. Paul says, that with my 
mind I serve the law of God; but with the 
flesh, the law of sin. 

I have heard Colossjans '1st and 16th, 
quoted to prove that the Lord made the 
devil. But if it did, the 20 h verse same 
chapter vyoujd est ibiish the universal doc- 
trine. But happily the text says nothing 
about the kingdom of darkness, or bottom- 
Jess pit, so that the devil and the tares thai 
come from him are not included in the 
20ih verse. But this passage does prove 
to me, that the Lord will lose none of his 
children, neither in heaven nor eanh. 1 
am as far from believing that God cmsed 
man to sin, as any of my brethren; nay, 
it was the Lord's enemy. But the Lord's 
goodness has no end, lor he overrules all 

for the overruling power of God, which pre? 
ventsthem from accomplishing their desires 
or wishes, what would we all come to? 
But we have great reason to bless the Loid 
and take, courage, that the enemy is not 
suffered to touch the life of even the weak- 
est lamb. If he could get one member, 
he could get the whole body and head too; 
but Jesus has said, as I live ye shall live al- 
so. Yes, he is our life. This is the reason 
Ihe apostle John says, whosoever is born 
of God doth not commit sin, for his seed- 
remaineth in him and he cannot sin, 
berausc he is born of God. First John, 
3id, 9th. Read the whole chapter. Ye 
are of God, little children. 

We have some Campbellites here which 
say, lobe horn again is only necessary to 
give consent lo embrace religion, and he 
b.ipii-ed. Go in goat, and come out sheep. 
But I can truly say, if a child at all, I have 
not so learned CI list; I want a principle of 
vitality, or spiritual life begotten in the 
soul by the spirit of God, which is pure 
as he is pure. I have said that a good be- 
ing cannol commit sin. The candlestick 
may be enveloped in darkness,but the light 
of the candle which is spiritual will dispel 
the darkness. Was Eve a sinner before 
she partook of the forbidden fruit, or not? 
I think her partaking proved that she had 
imbibed or received a principle or spirit 
of pride, unbeliefand rebellion against God, 
from the devil, which 1 have thought is 
the carnal mind, which is not subject to the 
law of God, neither indeed can be. This is. 
the strong man that keeps his palace, until 
the stronger than he comes. Notice the pal- 
ace is called his. 

The Lord by the mouth of Ihe prophet 
says. (lsa. 49ih, 24, 25.) shall the prey be 
taken from the mighty, or th,e lawful cap- 
tive delivered? But ihus saith the Lord, 
even the captives of the mighty shall be 
taken away, and ihe prey of the terrible 
shall be delivered; for I vv'ili contend with 
him that contendeth with thee, and I will 
save thy children. Here we see the chil- 
dren ol God are the prey of the mighty; 
yes, they are taken captive by the serpent, 
the prince of darkness. Here we can dis- 
cover the sad change which took place in 
the garden, or the death that Adam died. 

things, even the works of wicked men and From being ihe peaceable and happy sub- 
devils, to the g >qd of his children and his ' ject of light, he became the willing slave of 
pwn glory. Wicked men and the devil j sin and death; lor the devil has the power 
peed no stimulants to make them do wick- of death. Says the apostle, dead in tres- 
edly. They are ever ready to do all the \ parses and in sins; not crippled only, but 
i»ord will suffer them to do, and if it was not I killed, entirely changed from good to bad, 



from love to hate; innocence and happi 
ness gone, and lliat out of the compass of 
free agency or power of m;in to recover. 
liut the Lord has found a ransom, he will 
save his children; not according to their 
works, but according to his own purpose 
and grace; not to an earthy or corruptible 
paradise, but to an incorruptible inherit- 
ance with him in light, beyond the reach 
pr power of the enemy. 

Under a view of these things, dear breth- 
ren, what sort of creatines ought, we to be, 
when we reflect that this is not our home, 
but we seek a city whose maker and buil- 
der is God? We are but strangers and 
pilgrims in this world of trouble. Let us 
then put on the whole armor of God, that 
jve may stand against all the wiles of the 
devil. Let us love one another as God 
has loved us. Let us not fall out by the 
way, or engage in angiy controversy, be- 
paq?e we cannot see exactly alike. The 
lime is coming when we shall know as vye 
are known. So farewell. 


Primitive Baptist princpilesi and thefirst Assocja- 
Hon to meet at Enoe church the Saturday before 
the 3rd Sunday in May next; at which time I Ijope 
brethren ministers of our Lord's gospel, will come 
out and see and preach for us, the little few, who 
are contending for the faith once delivered to the 

Dear brethren in the Lord, pray for us, that we 
may hold out faithful to the end; for false christg 
anJ false prophets shall rise and show signs and 
wonders to seduce, if it. were possible, even the 
elect, Mark, 13 chap, and "22 v. o, dear brethr 
ren, that we the few churches may meet in our 
little Association in the spirit of the Lord, and 
that the Lord may bless arrd add to her such other 
churches as be would have to be saved, and that 
all may know the true shepherd of the salvation 
of our souls, and enter by the door into the sheep 
fold, and may the Lord direct our hearts and all 
our brethren's into the lo/e of God, and into the 
patient waiting for Christ our Saviour. 





West Point, Orange county, N. Cx 


Houston, Troup county, Ga 

November 29, 1840. 

Dear brethren Editors: In compliance 

as agent for your paper, and my duty to you, 

I it has become necessary that I should write to 

'you againi As there has been much said in the 

columns of your valuable paper, and 1 think much 

to purpose, it seems like it is hardly needful that 

Sift Dec'r, 1840. 5 

Dear brethren Editors: I take mj pen to T should say much; but there appears to be a di- 
jnform yon that I wish you to continue your little versity of opinions amongst the Old School Bap- 
paper, the Primitive Baptist We have received lists in different sections of the country, and sorne 
them regular, and have a desire for them to con- of those different opinions 1 will name, Some 
tinue, and are well pleased with them; for we believe in a two seed doctjine, others again con- 
read the communications of distant brethren with lend against usury on money, and some believe in 
satisfaction, and 1 hope, they will continue to write. jVan Buren and others for Harrison; and on these 
1 can say, that I am well pleased to find that we subjects there has appeared to be some excitement 
have so many faithful brethren in these United j of feeling. 

States, that are contending for the truth and put- Now, brethren, does not this look very much 
ting down erron May the Lord uphold them to like what the apostle Paul, I believe, said to the 
contend for tjie truth as it is in Christ our Sa- brethren, that some were for Paul and some for 
yiour. Apcllos, and some for Cephas, and some for 

Dear brethren, I am but a young member, my] Christ. He asked them if they were not carnal, 
membership is in Enoe churchi We haveabout for, says the apostle, was Christ divided. The 
200 members in the church, and we are at peace same apostle says again, that he was determined 
as faras Iknow. Religion seems to be cold here to know nothing amongst them, only Christ and 
though we have some meetings that it seems as if him crucified. 

the Lord was with us. Our pastor is Elder James , Now, my brethren, it appears from what trje 
Ferrell, who preaches to us the gospel in its puri- apostle has said, that he did not wish to meddle 
ty. We have come out from all the institutions with money matters and political strifes; but as 
of the day. A few churches, 5 in number, met at. the Saviour has said, render unto Cffisar the 
Chesnut Grove, on the 30th day of October last, in things that are Csesar's, and to God the things 
convention by their delegates, and by a unanimous that are God's. Audi for one believe, if this 
voice consented to form an Association upon 'rule was strictly adhered to, we should not hear of 



so many breihrcn entertaining different senti- 

Now, brethren, E hopp my prayer is that the 
Old School Baptists rni'jlil be united, for it ap- 
pears they can't be but. one people. So farewell 
for the present, and may Israel's God preside over 
you, is the prayer of your unworthy brother. 



Lumjikin, Slewnrf coi/nfy. Go. ) 
Jim y 3>/, l>41. \ 

*ftcknovaiedgrn.enks In my Primitive 

Dear Bretrhen: We are absent in per- 
son, but from what I have observed in the 
Primitive to be the object of the Old School 
Isanti sis, 1 feel lo bu under obligation to 
them; an acknowledgment in which, 1 be- 
lieve, we shall he united in spirit. 

I was raised in the noith part of Geor- 
gia, and was baptise?! in the 21st year of 
my age. About which time 1 (Vitas if the 
Lord requited something of me, which 
gave me no re-!; and my ron'tinna! prayer 
and desire was to Almighty God: Lord, 
what will thou have me to do? And above 
every thing, 1 fell the greatest accountabil- 
ity lo God, for a faithful performance of 
what God required at my hand. Here the 
spirit was willing, but the flesh was weak. 
And so 1 went on, making and breaking, 
for about ten yeais; in winch time theie 
was no divisions known in the churches, 
only once in a while some fine missionary 
preachi r would come along and tell of a 
heap of good things the Baptists' were do- 
ing in other sections of the country. Some 
would give their assent to it, and give or 
send up a little mile for the support of 
Ihe objects rjresentr'd by those missiona- 
ries, while others would have nothing fo 
do with them. And so for the space often 
years it was a matter of no consequence 
with me. 

About this time, which was in the year 
'34, 1 moved into the south part of Geor- 
gia, into a new settled country. The bap- 
tists as a denomination appeared to be uni- 
ted. In '35 I was liberated to exercise my 
gift. In the fail I went to the Association, 
where all appeared lo be peace and harmo- 
ny, and 1 fell thankful lo God that I had 
found such a respectable society of Bap- 
tists in this new country. The nexl fall 1 
failed to go to the Association, but heard 
that there was some very smart missionary 
preachers there. But the next fall thereaf- 

ter I went, which was the year *37; and 
i'-ver, until then, was I present when 
■here w.-.s a controversy between the mis- 
•donrvy Baptists and the anti-missionary 
Baptists so called. 

By i his lime some of ihe Baptists of my 
acquaintance said, it would not do lo let the 
mis-ioearics into the Association. Here I 
was afiaid'divisii iiwc.uld lake place, which 
caused trie lo enquire whether ihei had the 
same fai'h that the Baptists always hail. 
The answer was, yes; and they preach the 
same doctrine. Well, said I, where is the 
cause of so rhutr'h disputing? 0, .-aid some 
of them, Ihe anti-missionaries are anlinomi- 
ans, and are opposed lo the spread of the 
gospel in the Lord's way, and opposed to 
the suppon of the ministry, and opposed 

10 education and every thing that is good; 
all of which, had il been true, I knew was 
contrary to Ihe word of God. Then, said 
I, if what you tell me is what is meant lo 
be mi'S$ioiiary'j 1 give my sanction, and 
said I, 1 have been missionary all the while. 

' In Phis Association now present, came 

| forward one of their Sampsons forinstitu- 

I lions with his colleague, with a petitionary 

letter for memliei -hip in the Association. 

11 was objected. This great man was so 
humble, that he proffered to lie down and 
lei the brethren walk over him until night, 
rather than cause a division — all to get his 
letter to take — also produced the articles of 
lailh, which vv< re the same of the Associa- 
tion. And, alter much discussion, their 
If Its r was received. 

The divisions commenced, and in the 
spring of '39, at a called meeting of Ihe 
executive committee and president of the 
board, I agreed to travel and preach in the 
bounds of ihe Association a part of the 
year, for which time they said they would 
sustain me. \ told them, that was a mai- 
ler with them, that I was no hireling. It 
was r< quired of me by the board, that I 
should avoid all controversies & make re- 
ligion my theme. Then I began to get 
my eyes open, like the kitten nine days 
old; then there vv^s something new open- 
ed up to me, to avoid all controversy was a 
new system of preaching. 

I went on home, meditating on what 
was the amount of it. 1 concluded that 
was the cause of ihe missionary Baptists 
and the IVKlhodists mingling more than 
I hey used to do; but then, said I, lest I 
have placed a wrong construction upon the 
subject, 1 would say nothing about it — that 
if my manner of preaching did not go to 



well with (hem, they would manifest it, in 
some way. Sure enough, before many 
months the president of ! he hoard came 10 
my house and stayed all night; and to not 
let me know ivfial was lis business, he re- 
quested me to go the next day with him to 
meetings whicligave him a very good op- 
portunity lo let his object be known, for 
almost all of his conversation was aboul 
the inconsistency of ilie Baptists i.n gene 
ral. 1 wished to know where the incon- 
sislenry was. His reply was, in 'lie a i t i 
cles of faith. 1 wished him to show me 
those inconsistencies, and when he ex 
plained himself to me, it was Is', the dor- 
trine of eternal and particular election; 
2d, the impoiency of man. And 1 kept 
this in train with their preaching, as I was 
with them; hut being with them did not 
sweeten their doctrines. Then was Ibis 
scriptrre fulfilled where it is said, ihe\ 
teach for doctrines the commandments of 
men. When they could say, fajj.h is the 
act of the creature, and that that man thai 
said he preached from R( velalion, preach 
ed a lie and the truth was not in him; and 
that none ought to be allowi d to preach 
without a theological education; and in 
private conversation would say, the lime 
is coming when there would he none al- 
lowed to preach but them thai were educa- 
ted, and that they would be paid for it: 
and once in a while, they would find fauli 
of the translation of parts of the scripture 
All these things ! kepi in train, and sum- 
ming up all together, I told them that if 
that is what they understood in the term 
misssiunar y, I was no missionary and was 

Consequently I have renounced them 
and their institutions, being satisfied that 
their institutions and false principles have 
been the cau^e of the divisions ihat have 
caused more grief and more tears shed, 
than the Seminolean war. And the door 
through which this wicked spirit has found 
its way into the chinch, is fust, soft words 
and fair speeches, controlled by a lying 
spirit, to deceive; secondly, professing the 
orthodox faith; thiidly, unfaithfulness in 
the church to detect those errors in due 



Caledonia, Lowndes county, Mi. ~> 
October 4 th, 1840. 5 
Dzas Brethren; Whom I love fl* 

truth. Ihivebeen silent all the while, 
and have been attending closely to the com- 
munications of mv brethren from different 
pails of ihe United Slates; the most of 
whic.ii I am well pleased with, and especial- 
ly those parts. thai urge so seriously that 
we take il. c word of liod as the man of our 
counsel. And hearing of the distress among 
my brethren in the United States, we 
need lo be thankful lo the Lord, that the 
appointed lime of God lias come that we 
can ca-tthe bond woman and her children 
out :; for God never i mended them to be heirs 
of the piomiso, for there is none to inher- 
it eternal life but them that were chosen in 
Christ Jesus befpre the foundation of the 
world. But this our missionary Baptists 
cannot bear, for I hey say they never were 
elected until after they obtained a hope. 
Some say, they think it strange ihat they do 
no' believe the doctrine of election; but we 
do not think it strange, brethren, for if 
hey wire all taught of the Lord, we 
>\oukl be all of one mind, and the min- 
isters would all be preaching one doc- 

The missionaries say, the doctrine of 
election is dyingaway; and as soon as this 
generation passtsavvay that there will be 
nothing bui free will doctrine preached. 
They also tell us, that God evidently re- 
quired the sum of thirty thousand dollars 
lo be raised immediately, to evangelize the 
heathen. Lot alas, is this the truth? I 
answer, no; for we feel thankful to the 
Lord, that his people are not redeemed 
with money. Read (l.-aiah, lii. 3rd verse: 
And ye shall be redeemed without money.) 
This is not ail. for, brethren, the Lord has 
told us,, that he will gather his elect in fiom 
the four quarters of the earth. 

Brethren, you labor under a mistake 
about my membership beijng at Columbus, 
for that is a full blooded missionary church; 
my membetship is at Elbethel church, 
which church belongs to the Buttahatchie 

i will come to a close for Ihe present, lest 
I stand in the way of some abler brother. 

Yours in the bonds of Chrislian fellow- 

Dear brethren, since the above was writ- 
ten, the fifteenth anniversary of the Butta- 
hatchie Baptist Association, convened at 
MountPJeasanl meeting bouse, Marion co. 
Alabama, on the 9, 10, 11 of October, 1840. 
[laving been separated from the mission- 
ary Baptb'ts, we attended to ihe ordinary bu- 
siness of the Association without any dif- 



ftculty. Sucrh union and brother] v love 
has not been manifested for years. Il was 
a mamfest blessing and ever will he where 
jye obev (he voice of inspiration, COME 
come to a close by requesting ihe prayers 
of my Pi imitive brethren throughout the 
world. Amen. IV. M. 


Bellville, Conecuh comity, Jila 
December ZOIh. is-10. 
Peak brethren Editors in the 
Lord: Permit an old man, thai is past his 
three score and ten years to say to you, thai 
1 have been a reader of your valuable pa- 
per the Primitive Baptisl for something 
jike eighteen months. It brought to my 
mind days past and gone, when brethren 
and sisters could meet together in love and 
unity, all speaking the same thing and no di- 
visions amongst I hem. 

But for me, brethren, to describe the 
joy and satisfaction it gives me, when I 
pome to s^e in reading Ihe communications 
ofso manv precious able brethren, writing 
and contending for ihe faith once deliver- 
ed to the saints, I shall leave you to judge. 
And as I believe they contain th8 true 
doctrine of the gospel of Jesus Christ, I 
ioveto read them as they bring me informa- 
tion of the prosperls as well as the trouble 
and distress of try brethren and sisleis 
from all parts almost throughout these 
United States. 

And now, dear brethren, 1 must draw to 
a c]ose and say to you, I have received my 
papers tolerably regular this year and want 
you to continue sending your papers the 
Primitive on the ensuing year, and you 
will fir din this letter five dollars enclosed 
for the same. Dear brvthren, excuse bad 
spelling and writing, as { am old anil 
never had more than three months school- 
ing. And now, if it was not lor the love 
I have for the cause and I he brethren that 
are contending for the faith once deliveied 
to the saints, my scribling never would ap- 
pear in public; but 1 hope the strong will 
bear with the weak. So I conclude by 
subscribing myself yours in the bonds of 

you know, that though sevenly*ene years 
of my days have past, I yet survive in life 
as a monument of mercy. I believe I was 
baptized thirty nine years ago last August. 
Then, brethren, il was pleasant times; then 
I heard the gospel preached in its purity by 
Joseph Baker, George Franklin, R. MrGin- 
ty, a Shiry and others. 1 ihought all was 
p!ei«ant. At length there came a Mr. 
Rice from the north, and sowed the seeds of 
missienism," and they look - root and bore 
fruit, and behold it was Ishmael's children, 
and their mouths were open, crying, mon- 
ey, money, money. They were I he zealous- 
est people on earth, and bred very fast, and 
would brother you almost to death, if pos- 

But, brethren, their fox-fire is a great 
deal declined; but, brethren deacons and 
laity, do not let those things keep you out of 
your duty. Rea I 1 Corinthians, 9 chant. 
and there you will find your duly toward 
your teachers. So, my beloved brethren 
in the minisiry of the Primitive order, 
stand to your watchtower upon the walls 
of Zion, cry aloud as oft as you ran. I 
can eat strong meal, the truth can't be told 
too plain. I sty well done Lawrence, Hy- 
man, Beebc, Tillery and others; your 
communications are cheeringto me, 1 think 
the Primitive has done much good in this 
section. My preaching brethren, though 
) ou war, your weapons of warfare are not 
carnal, hul mighty through God to the pul- 
ling down of strongholds. 

1 close by subscribing myself yours in 
gospel bonds. JOHN HARDIE. 

TO editors primitive baptist. 

Irwinton, Wilkinson county, Ga. ~) 
December 20ih, 1S40. $ 
Dear Brethren: I now write to let 


Georgia, Frank/in county. 
We, the Baptist church of Christ of Prim- 
itive faith and order at Middle River, to the 
ministers and messengers who shall com- 
pose the Oconee Association, to be held 
with the church at Moriah, Madison county, 
commencing on Saturday before the second 
Lord's day in Oct. 1S40. 

Dear brethren, we have agreed to unite 
in petitioning for admission as a member 
of your body, and as we have once held 
membership in the Tugaloo Association and 
now present ourselves before you without 
a letter of dismission, we feel bound in 
justice to our own character, and the 
cause of God and truth, for which we be- 
lieve we are contending, to present to yon. 
an unvarnished statement of the causes that 
have compelled us to withraw from the 



Tugaloo Association, in wliich we once 
held membership. 

We have had various difficulties to en- 
counter wilh, growing out of the unscrip- 
tural, falsely called benevolent Institutions 
of the day: though none of them produced 
between us and our sister churches anv se- 
rious dilliculty uniil the year lASS. Th 
church haveing agreed to call for a presbyte 
ry to ordained or. Carson 10 the ministry, 
also to ordain a deacon, the ministers 
called for thai purpose were Elders Henry 
David, John A. Davis, and James J. Sal 
mon, who melat uur hou-efir worship ai 
the time appointed by the church, and al- 
ter private consultation, Davis & Salmon re- 
fused to go into the work for which they 
were called, unless br. David was rejected; 
alledgingas their reason, 1 1iit br. David was 
a member of the Oconee Association, and 
they had unfellowshipped the advocates of 
the institutions of the day. 

At our next conference, the subject be- 
ing taken up, and believing the cause pur- 
sued was intended to clog ihe wheels of 
our church and bring us under ohligatipns 
to fellowship the inventions of men in 
matters of religion, we then proceeded to 
call a presbytery from the Oconee tssocia- 
tion, to ordain br. Carson to the ministry; 
who met with us at our house for worship 
on the lllh of July, and after ex, imination, 
solemnly set hr. Carson apait to act in all 
parts of the ministerial office. At our Au- 
gust conference, brethren Carson and Mor- 
ris were appointed our messengers to meet. 
the Tugaloo Association, on Friday before 
the third Lord's day in Sept., with a 
letter recommending them as our messen- 
gers, and giving br. Carson his official ehar- 
acter. Our letter was- received without 
objection, butthroughthe workings of some 
of the master spirits of the workmongers 
of the day, James J. Salmon enquired of ihe 
Association, just as it was about to close its 
business, to Know what he must tell some 
Association to which he was a correspond- 
ing messenger about the ordination of ihe 
brother named in the letter from Middle an ordained minister.The following 
resolution was then introduced and adopted, 
over the heads of a large minority of the 
messengers present. 

'■•RtauLvtd, That the brother named in 
the letter from Middle River church as 
an ordained minister, be not recognized in 
our minutes as such, and we recommend 
the adjacent churches to labor with Middle 
River church for a reconciliation in refer- 

ence to the above resolution and their Pas- 

We believe the above resolution to'be d 
violation of their own decorum, which for- 
bids them to lord it over God's he'r- 
ila^tvor inte.Tere with Ihe internal rights 
of th'e churches; and a" direct attack upon the 
sovereign and internal rights of this church, 
as laid down in the New Testament, to 
whifh we never can submit. Not A'ithsla'ncr- 
ihg the cours" pursued by the Association, 
no sister church has ever presented to us any 
complaint, or attempted to shew us that we 
have violated amy gospel precept; which is" 
a silent admission, too plain to be misun- 
derstood, that they are unable to shew tha/t 
we are unsound in faith or immoral in prac- 

The church at her June meeting IS39, 
took under her consideration the course 
pursued by the Association, in rejecting 
the name of br. Carson from their minutes 
as an ordained minister, and after a month's 
consideration, decides there has been no 
departure from gospel order in the course 
pursued in catling the presbytery from the 
ordination of br Carson, and diops the cor- 
respondence with the Tugaloo Associa- 

At their September session 1S39, the As- 
sociation finding that noi.e of the churches 
had run at their bifid ing to labor wiih Mid- 
dle River, and finding themselves as we' 
believe to ray the least of it, in a very un- 
enviable situation with regard to the course' 
pursued toward this church, appointed a 
large committee, chiefly composed of those* 
who had given in their adhesion to the an- 
ti christian principles which have caused so/ 
many heart-rending divisions among our 
once happy but now divided denomination, 
alledging that some difficulties existed as 
regards Middle Liiver chinch; but strange- 
to tell, another assooiational year has rolled 
around and this committee has not ap- 
peared to shovvjiis what those difficulliesare; 
and we are inlormed, when called upon 
by those who appointed them, at their 
Sept. session 1S40, to report what they ha<l' 
done, state they had made an effort to meet 
but failed, and request the Association? 
to extend their lime which was granted. 

To the above petition was added the ar- 
ticle oi our faith and our views of the prin- 
ciples by which a gospel church should be 
governed, which were in accordance with 
Primitive principles, and the writer of 
the remark annexed, considers unnecessary 
to be inserted herewith. The petition 



was read in conference and adopted, but n 
part of l he church refused to unite with us; & 
was signed by order of the church; Satur- 
day before the first Lord'-: day in October. 
1S40. HENRY !)AV!i), Moderator. 

DAVID CARSON, ch. elk. 

Brethren Editors: I transmit to you the 
abovepetition.wiih a requeM ! h it you would 
publish it in your useful & truthful pariodie- 
al; thai brethren at a dista.ncemayj.parn some 
of those difficulties that the lillje flock al 
M iddleRiver have had to wade thro'. Their 
petition was received by the Association to 
which it was directed, and i was with the 
brelhien during their Association, which 
lasted four days; when peace, unanimi- 
ty, and brotherly love abounded; and 
when the Lord Jesus Christ, in the preach- 
ing of the gospel, was held forth as king in 
Zion, to the comfort and edification of the 
dear sheep & lambs of Christ; and sinners 
were taught {Uvl tin re whs no other name 
given among men whereby we must be sa- 
ved but that of the dear Redeemer, for 'him 
hath God exalted with his right ham! to be 
a prince and a Saviour, for to give repen- 
tance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins." 
May the Lord give his chosen ones grace 
10 sustain them amidst all their trials, and 
to enable them to contend earnestly for the 
fa th once delivered to ihe saints, is the 
desire and prayer of y our unworthy bro- 
ther in tribulation. 


October 22nd, IS 10. 


Pineville, Stewart emmly, Ga. } 
December St k, 1840. $ 

Beloved brethren Editors: It again 
becomes my duty, as an agent, to vvii-te to 
you, as the year is now drawing to a (dose, 
to send you some momy which Ins hi en 
collected, and also to send a regulated list 
of subscribers for the mxl volume, which 
you will see in another place. 

Our cause is still gaining ground in this 
section of country. The first meeting of our 
Association has been held on Saturday he- 
fore the first Sabbath in this month, and the 
three succeeding days. The meeting was 
one of Ihe heavenly places in Christ, which 
the Lord occasionally permits* his children 
lo sit together in; for p» ace and harmony 
prevailed in the body, while our souls were 
refreshed and encouiaged by the preaching 
from day to day; which was all of that 

heavenly kind, which gives Ood all the glory 
and the bent fit all to man, for which we 
desire th praise the name of the Lord. 

In the conclusion of ihe business, il was a- 
greed to change the limeof our annual meet- 
ing, from the first of November to Saturday 
before the first Sunday in September; and 
as cleric body, 1 was directed to 
communicate the same to you and through 
you to the brethren of our sister Associa- 
tions, with whom we correspond ; and so the 
next meeting of the Harmony Baptist As- 
sociation will take place on Saturday before 
the first Sunday in Sept 184.1, at Mars 
Mill, Early county, located in the 4th dis- 
trict the south-east corner of Randolph 
county. And as the change of time made 
it unnecessary for us to appoint correspon- 
dence, we earnestly solicit the voluntary at- 
tendance of our ministering brethren gener- 
ally- Artd a^ so many of them promised, 
if we would just credit them till another 
year they would then he with us, it is 
therefore that we expect you to be liberal. 
So we say, brethren, come and see us one 
and all. 

I have thought for some time, tint I 
would attempt a communication at some 
length on the subject of fellowship; but 
from my own knowledge of my inability to 
write, and seeing that communications are 
SO far behind that 1 forbear at present. But 
as this suhji ct is more abused by the en- 
emies of truth than any other lhal I know 
of, particul >rly in this country, I hope that 
it will at no distant day attract the atten- 
tion of some able pen in the Primitive, and 
he fully explained in all its pai is. 

In conclusion, permit me to subscribe 

myself your unwonhv brother in the bonds 

of tl 

le gospel 


Columbia, Richla ml c/i.s/rict, So Ca. > 
Dec'?- 10/ h, 1S-10. 5 
Dear buethrEn Editors: 1 fortu- 
nately have been favored with a few cop- 
ies of yOttr Primitive papers, and was 
| mu'di pleaded with them; >o much >o, that 
1 wish in become a subscriber to your pa- 
per. 1 will lake six emits. 

1 do in In. ve your paper is built upon 
thai rock, which Ghris-i told Peter he would 
build his church upon; tint is the truth, 
which is Jtsus Chi ist. And 1 don't be- 
l.eve the gales of hell ever will prevail a- 
| gainst \ our paper. 

1 will come to a close by subscribing my- 
self yours in the bonds of affection. 





Springjield, Green county, .tfla J> 
January 10. 1S-11. \ 

Dear Bketi-iren: I merely Jake m\ 
pen in hand 10 yyt'jle to you to continue the 
Primitive paper. For! consider the Prim- 
itive Baptist a paper that coraffain's sound 
principles and doctrine 

Dear brethren I. have been reading, your 
valuable paper for pearly four years, am! 
am much pleased whhthe doctrine it con 
tains. We receive them tolerably regular, 
and we wish them to eoriirnue. 

Yours in hope of eternal life. One of 
the laity. PUT Eh G. OLDHAM. 


According to promise the following 
work is now in press, viz: William Hunt- 
ington upon iinivfrsil charity, pursued 
and taken by Mr. Zeal for God, examined 
before Mr. Gospel Experience, the magis- 
trate; found guilty and delivered up to 
Mr. Election, the jiihu': then brought he- 
fore Mr. Discerning of Spirits, the deputy 
judge; there tried and condemned. 

Together with letters on Ministerial -\- 
bility's detecting errors, and some com- 
ments on dark pissig<s of scripture. 

Also, the N died Bow of God. or a visi- 
ble display of the judgments of God on the 
enemies of truth. 

The last Will and Testament of William 
Huntington, a servant of Christ and of the 
church for his sake. Also, a preface to 
his will. 

Five thousand copies will be done by 
the middle of February;. Price single co- 
py, $1 25 cents; by the quantity, £1 00. 
Cheeks on specie paying hanks will be ne- 
cessary from a distance, and books will he 
forwarded to oider. Address the subscri- 
ber, post paid, or T. C. Trice, Mt. Morne, 
Pike county, and prompt attention will be 
given. 1 think any real Christian who 
reads it through attentively, will acknowl- 
edge himself well paid. 


Bear Creek, Henry co. Ga. 



North Carolina. — .1. Biggs, Sen. WiUiamstmt. 
R. M. G. Moore, German/an. W. w. Mizell, Ply- 
mouth. Jacob Swindell, Washington, James Sou- 
llierland, JVa/renton. (.'hides Mason, Hoxboru . 

James Wilder, Andemoii'». f ffore. rJenj. Bynnmi 
Speig/il's Bridge. H. \vera, Averasboro 1 . I, H, 

Keoeday, Chalk Level. Burwell Temple, Wake co. 
fieo. w. ,\i.'-\'crly, Leaksville. Wm, II. Vann, 
Long ''reek Brdge. Thomas LJfgley, Smilhfu\d. 
Janies H. Sasser, IVrn/ncsboro''. John Fruit, San- 
dy Greek, L. B, Bennett, Heiilhvillr. Alfred VA- 
lis, Striihtine, Oor's, Can/aday,, Crfivensyillt, Wil- 
liam Welch, Abbflti/S Creek, J, Lamb, Came/en, 
C.J-J. A, 13, Bains, fr, Stanhope. C. T. Saw- 
yer, Powell's Point. Isaac Tillery, Lapland. 
Thomas Miller, Elizabeth Ciiy. Harris Wil- 
kersnn, West Point . Isaac Alderman, Moose's Creek, 
James Miller, Milton Park. David It. Canaday, 
French's Mills. 

South Carolina. — lames fleinbree, Sen. An- 
derson C. //. (Jharles Cartel, Cambridge. 0. 
Lawrence, EJfingfcam. James Biuris, Sem Bold 
S/iring. William S. Shaw, P,o:k M,l!s. Levi 
Lee, Blackville. Andrew Westmoreland. Gash- 
vi.We. James .L Kirkland, Four Mile Branch. 
Ransom Hamilton, Jli'ien. Marshal McGraw, 
Brown's, John i<« Simpson, Cop'ijiam, i, G> 
Bowers, Hickory Hill, Wm. Nelson, Camden, G, 
Mathews, Mount Willing. Jacob 13. Higgins, 

GiioiiGiA. — Willinm Moseley, Bear Creek. Al- 
ien Gleyela id, M.cDonong'i, John MeKenney, For- 
syth. Anthony HpLloway, Lagrange. P. M. Cal- 
houn, Knoxi'Hle. R. Reese, Ka.tont.on. Thomas 
Amis and David w. Patman, Lexington. Jona- 
than Veel, James Hollingsworth and Stephea 
Castellow, Macon. Charles P. Hansford, Union 
Hill. John vv. Turner, Pleasant /III. Joshua 
Bowdoin, Aiairsville. R. Toler and Jas. M. Rock- 
more, Upatoie. Clark Jackson and Abednego Mc- 
Gi n ty, Fort Games. John Gwy dim, Franklin. P. 
II. lid ward 3, George/own. Willi, mi Trice, T'no n- 
as/on. Ezra SScCrary, Wurrcnton. Prior Lewi*, 
Rodney, lohn Lassetler, Vernon. B.Pace, Van Wert. 
L. P'jacock, Cassville, V. D.Whatley, Barnesville. 
Alex. Garden and Thomas C, Price, Mount Morne. 
EliasO. Hawthorn, Bainbridgt J.G. wintring- 
ham, Florence. William Mi Amos, G-reenoiWe 
Randolph Arnold, Latimer's Store. Thomas J> 
Bazemore, Clinton. Jo iiah Stovall, Jl/uiWa. G. 
P.Cannon, Cu\\oden<ilk, Jason Grier, Indian 
Springs. Win. Vic E Ivy, Altapufgus. Furna Ivey, 
Milledgeville. Wm. Garrett, Cotton River. Jesse 
Mi)' re & John Hardie, irwinton. Leonard Pratt, 
WhUesvillc. Edward Jones, Decatur. X, Hen- 
don, Shilo. A. G. Simmons, Hickory Grove, 
John La whop, Chenuba. John Ilerington, Wel- 
born's Mills. James P,,El!is, Pinevi\\e° V. Hag- 
gard, Athens. H, Barron, Jackson, A.MiThompson, 
Fori Valley, Josiah Gresham, White Hall. Daniel 
O'Neel, Fowl/on. John Applewhite, Waynesboro'i 
J. B. Morgan &.\i,P,R«usv, Friendship, Sam'l Wil- 
liams, Fair flay, John Wayne, Cam's, Edmund 
Stewart, Hooltnsville. R, S, Hamriek, Carroll/on. 
David Smith, Cool Spring, Allison Spear, Flat 
Shoals, Moses Daniel, Bowery, Moses II. Den- 
man, Marietta. James Bush, Blul:e\y, Asa 
Edwards, Houston, Richard Stephens, Sen'r, 
TaroersviWe, John Stroud, Kendall. James Sear- 
borough, Stalesbortngh, Jethro Oates, Mul- 
berry Grove, Robert R. Thompson, Seottsvillc. 
Jared Johnson, Troiipville. Kindred Braswell, 
Buncunsuille. Edmund S. Chamhless, Stallings 
Store. James w. Walker, Marlborough. Edmund 
Dumas, Johnstonville. David Roweil, Jr. Oreo- 



tersvi\\e. Joel Colley, Covington, Benjamin C. 
Burns, ViWa Ricea, David Jones, Travel ler's Rest. 
\V. B. Mullens, Rotsvil/e. Willis S. Jarrell, 

Alabama. — L. B. Moseley, Cahawba. A. Kea- 
tdn, McConicb. John Blackstone, La Fayette. W. 
w. Carlisle, Fredoilia. Henry Dance, Daniel's. 
Prairie. Wm. w. Walker, Liberty Hill. Dari'l 
Gafford, Greenville, Samuel Moore, Snow Hill. 
John G.Walker, Mi/Ion. Henry W illiams, Ha- 
vana. Samuel Clay, Mount Hebron. James 
Daniel, Claiborne, Elias Daniel, Church Hill. 
John Bonds, Clinton, David .luhnston, Leigh/on. 
Adam McCreary, Brooklyn. Josiah Jones. Jack- 
son. David Jacks, New Market. Sherrod w 
Harris, Vienna. John McQueen, Graces' Ferry, 
William Talley, Mount Moriah, Graddy Her- 
ring, Clayton. G. w. Jeter, Pint Lata, Samuel 
Ci Johnson, Pl'.asant Grove. Wm.Crutcher,//u«/s- 
ville, Y\ mi Hi Cook and H'y Petty, Pickensville. 
Seaborn Hamrick, Flan'ersville. James Si Mor- 
gan, Dayton. Wm. Hyde, Gainesville, Rut'us 
Daniel, Jumeston. Frederick Hines, Gaston, Z. 
Johns, Tiara. Eli McDonald, Painsoille. Wm. 
Powell, YoungsviWe. John Brown, IVacooca, Silas 
Monk, Horse Shoe Bend, R. Lackey, Scraper. 
James F. Watson, Abbeville, David Treadwell 
and lt.w. Carlisle, Mount Hickory. Joseph H.Hol- 
loway, Wizle Green. Jesse Lee, Farmersville. 
William S. Armstrong, Louiiville. Henry Ad- 
ams, Mount Willing. Joel H. Chambless, Lowe- 
ville. Elliot! Ttfoufas, Wdliamston. F. Pickett, 
China throve, James Grumbles, Benldn. John 
M. Pearson, Dadeville. John D. Hoke, Jackson- 
ville, Elijah R. Berry, Cobb's Store. Willis 
Cox, Soukeehalchie. Hazael Littlefield', Ten Isl- 
ands. John w. Pellum, /Vu«fcr/n.' Philip May, 
Belmont, A. Di Cooper, Williamsion, John 
Harrell, Missouri. James K. Jacks, Eli/on. 
Henry Hilliard, DeWville. John A. Miller, James 
Mays and James McCreless, Ockfuskee. Dur- 
ham Kelly, Alexandria, Josian M. Lauderdale, 
Athens, Wilfram Thomas, Prospect Ridge. John 
Bishop, Jun'r. Crockettsvitle. lames Gray, Cuse- 
ta. Thomas L. Roberts, MonroeviWe. James tlil- 
dreth, Pleasant Plains. William Devlin, Gainer's 
Store, E. M. Amos, Midway, 

Tennessee. — Michael Burkhalter, Cheeksvillc, 
Aaron Compton, Somerville. Asa Newport, 
Meesville. James Manlden, Fan Burcn. Solo- 
mon Ruth, W'estley. Wm. Groom, Jackson. Sion 
Bass, Three Forks, John w. Springer, Sugar Creel,: 
William S. Smith, , Winchester. Thomas Hill, 
Seviervitle. Thos. B. Yeates, Lynchburg, C.T. 
Echols, Mifflin. Aaron Tison, Medon. George 
Turner, W overly. Abner Steed, Mulberry. Henry 
Randolph, Snodysville, Pleasant A. Witt, Cheek's 
X Roads. J. Cooper, Unionville. Michael Bran- 
Son, Long Savannah. Jasi II. Hqll'bway, Hazel 
Green. William McBee, Old Town Creek, Ben- 
iamin w. Harget, Chcrryville, Robert Gregory, 
Carouth's X Roads. John Scalloru, Shady Grove, 
A. Burroughs, Moore's W Roads, Samuel Hag- 
gard, Davis's Mills. 

Mississippi. — WorshamMann, Columbus. Wil- 
liam Huddlestoir, Thomaston. Nathan Tims, 
Kosciusko. Jonathan D. Cain, Watcrford. Na- 
than Morris, Lexington. Charles Hodges, 
Cotton Gin Port. Bejamin E. Morris, W/iecl- 
ing. Simpson Parks, Lockhurl's Store. Mark 
Prewett, Aberdeen, William Ringo, Hamilton. 

James M. Wilcox, Louisville. Edm'd Beerrtari 
and Thomas H. Dixon, Macon. John Erwin,' 
L : nkhorne, Herbert D. Buckhnm, Pontotoc, Wil r 
liam Davis, Houston. .Win. H Warrpn, Dekalb. C. 
Nichols, Stump Bridge. VVooten Hill, Cooksville, 
John Davidson, Carrol/ton. Thomas Mathews,' 
Black Hawk. A, Botters, Fulton. 

Floiudai — James Alderman and Pi Blount, 
ChinaHill. David Callaway, Cherry Lake. Joffri 
F. Ragan, Mw/icilo. 

Louisiana. — Eli Headen, Marburyville. Thos<' 
Paxton, Greensbo'o'. 

Missouri. — Joel Ferguson, Jackson 

Illinois. — Richard M. Newport, Grand View', 
Thomas w. Martin, East Nelson. 

Indiana. — Peter Snltzman, New Harmony. I- 
saac Wi Denm'an, GaMatini 

Ohio. — Joseph H. Flint, Trenton. John B.' 
Moses, Gcrmanton, 

Kkntucky. — Levi B. Hunt, Manchester. Wash- 
ington Watts, ComelidsviMe. Levi Lancaster,' 
Canton. James Holloway, Fair Dealing. Dem- 
cey Burgess, Salem, 

Virginia. — Rudolph Horer, Berger's Store. John 1 
Clark, Fredericksburg. Wm. w. West, Dumfrits: 
William Burns, Halifax C. H, Jesse Lankford, 
Bowers's, Elijah Hansbfough, Homerville. Wil- 
son Davenport. White House, Arthur w. Eanes, 
Edgr/rill, James B. polMrVB, Burnt Chimneys, ., 

Pennsylvania. — Hezekiah West, S'oulh Hill. 
Joseph Hughes, Gum Tree. 

New York. — Gilbert Beebe, Ne w Vernon; 

Massachusetts. — James Osbourn, Woburiii 


E. M. Bussey, 4$2 

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Jesse P. Parker, 1 

David Cahoon, 3 

Jamps M iller, 3 

Henry Hilliard; 5 
Thomas Matthews, 5 

Ed'd Whatley, 1 

Benj. Byntim, 2 

Jos Alciridge,' 1 

N. R.Ladd, ' 5 

P. A. Witt, 3 

Henry Pel|yy 1 

James Petty, 1 

Eli Lancaster, 1 

Joel Ferguson, 1 

M. Anderson, 1 

John B. Moses, 2 


A. Prim', $Q 

Wilson Cooper, 1 

C. W. Lowe, 8 

John Applewhite, I 

Holey, Atfaway, 1 

John Hardie, 5 

Jesse Moore,' 8 

L. P. Garrison, 7 

VVm. S. Shaw, I 

Thos. Burriss, f 

Benj. Chamblee, 1 

A. McCreary, 5 

S. L> Piichett, 2 

John Bonds, 3 

VVm. S. Colson, 2 

Peter G. Oldham, 1 

Hezekiah West, 1 

A. Westmoreland, T 

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VOL. 6. 



*JtttoeiH«Bfvy-u>ai5aays.7:a7^ g-^.^w y,.,^- .^>-j;sgp'jj-.-^-'.& a:. 



Extract from the Minutes of the Echa- 
conna Association, held at Mount 
fcarmel, Crawftrd county, Ga. jront 
the \9lh to the 22nd of SepTr, 1840. 
19. Appointed brethren May, Matthews, 
& Bateman, a committee to examine corres- 
ponding minutes,- and also to report reso- 

nor do we b'dievs them to be friends to ui 

or the country. 

The Bchaconnd Association, to her Sis- 
ter Associations, with whom she Cor- 

Dear brethren: — Through the kind- 
protection of our Heavenly Father, we 
have been permitted to assemble once 
more, in an associate capacity. Our meet- 

; ,, . ing has been favorable, we hope, lo some of our view, .n regard | bel|er |imeg a ( ^ had 

lo a circular direcled to Southern Q f hef , in its it f Q a j 

Preachers, from aConventmn of I3.,pt,st s l ari(l;i![pn!ive c ,| ^ ff0m / 

in the city of New York, held the 14th 

pearance with some effect. We gladly 

L -rL ay . fk ft ft-4.1 , ] received your friendly correspondence, 

23. I he brethren May Matthews, and and (lesir / a conliliuan / e of lhe J same> in ' 
Bateman, presented the followmg pream- to] „ q{ which we gend ^ j^^ B 
hie and resolutions, which were una*- ren ■ for us> and |he ril of 

mousy adopted. _ Zion's Kingdom, and may the Grace of 

Whereas certain individuals residing h God aUend y6u, throu^Jife, and keep 
the Northern States, bearing the name of , a; , d „ s f , om ^^ ft ^ ^ 

Baptists united m Convention in the city j it ah:ll , be hjs pleasilre ,^ £,, us ho ^ to 
of New York, on the 14.h day of last May, I be nQ more [q \ [me . r e] {< 
have thought proper lo send out a circular, I m VATH4V wrr M . , 

directed to Southern Baptists, and addres- T J H IN „* HAN ', , LL ' »*°«erator.- 
sed particularly lo our Ministers, in which I James H °i-MEs^GleF&.. 

circular they charge us,- as Southern Bap-j ^,»,^^.^ T ^ .3 » 

tists, with violating God's word, and as _ CIRCFLAIl LETTER* 
such, sinning in that of domestic slavery, I r ° ^ /ie Churches composing the Echacon- 
which is tolerated by the constitution of 1 na Association. 

the United Statesand the laws of this state: ' Beloved Brethren: — You have been 
Be it therefore, by this Association, ! addressed with various subjects in former 

Resolved, That we view said individuals \ Circulars', we feel to be at a loss for a suila- 
as enthusiastic incendiaries, disregarding ble subject to lay before you, but we must 
our individual rights, the constitution and ' draw the bow at a venture, and shall call 
laws of our country, the peace and happi- your attention to a portion of the Word of 

ness of our citizens, civil and religious 

Resolved, That we as an Association, 
declare and make known to the world, 
that we have no fellowship for, nor con- 
nection with said individuals as Baptists, 

God, recorded in the 3rd chapter, the 1st 
Epistle general of John, and 1st verse. 
Behold what manner of love the Father 
hath bestowed on us, that we should b« 
called the sons of God. 


nusirnvE baptist 

The Apostle commands our attention by 
the word "behold!"a note of attention Iru 
Jy. We might speak in many instances ol 
the love of God towards his creatures. 
The love of God is manifested in (be for- 
mation and creation of all wings, an I they 
are preserved by his all fostering arm, that 
is ever Underneath them. God's love is 
manifested towards his creatures in giving 
man his reasoning faculties, and sympathet- 
ic feelings one towards another, and in 
many instances, that we could mention, 
concerning the common love of God to 
wards man, but knowing our limits must 
be short in the bounds of a Circular, we 
come at once to treat upon that love that 
the Apostle had in view, that surpasses all 
ether love. God is love, as is recorded 
of him — well if God is love does it not 
imply that he has objects of his love. 
Yes, brethren, and we are going to endear 
vor lo prove this doctrine to you, as much 
rejected and scoffed at as it is by the world.' 
Men are very willing to be saved, but they 
expect to be saved upon their own good 
performances, and they think thai there is 
a great deal that God ha> to da, yet lo save 
sinners, and this is the reason that you sec- 
men so busily engaged, in helping the Lord 
do bis work of redemption: poor creatures 
they prove their faith by their works, not 
knowing that salvation is of the Lord. 
You will discover, brethren, thai it was 
the employment of the prophets, who 
wrote as they were moved upon by the 
Holy Ghost, to set forth the Lord Jesus 
Christ as the Saviour of his people, and 
that according to covenant agreement with 
his Father. Psahns c. SS>, 3rd v. 1 have 
made a covenant with my chosen, 1 have 
sworn unto David my servant. 4th v 
Thy seed will I establish for ever, and 
build up thy throne to all generations. 
27th v. Also I will make him my first-born, 
higher than the kings of the earth. 2Sth v. 
My mercy will 1 keep for him for ever- 
more, and my covenant shall stand fist 
With him. These scriptures alone are 
sufficient to prove the covenant between 
God and his Son, lor David here was a 
type of Christ. But for fear this is not 
sufficient, turn to the 3rd c. iMalachi, 1st 
v. Behold, I will send my messenger, and 
he shall ptepare the way before me, and 
the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly 
come to his temple, even the messenger of 
the covenant, whom ye delight in; behold, 
he shall come, saith the Lord of hosts. 
Let this suffice to prove thai there was a 

covenant wit!) the Father and Son, rfnd 
that before all worlds were, for in Prow 
the 8th c. 22nd v. The Lord possessed 
me in the beginning, of his way, before 
his works of old. 1 was set up from ever- 
lasting, from the beginning, or ever the 
eaith was. When* there was no depth, 
I was brought forth; when there Were no 
fountains- a*bou.ndt«g with water. Before 
the mountains were settled, before the 
hills, was I brought forth. While ns yet 
he had not made the earth, nor the fields, 
nor the highest part of the dust of the 
world. W hen he prepared the heavens, 
I was there; whin he set a compass upon 
the face of the deep; then 1 was by him; 
as one brought up with him, and \ was 
daily his delight, rejoicing always before 
him; rejoicing, in the habitable part of bis 
earth; and my delights were with the son* 
of men. From the foregoing scriptures, 
brethren, you see that God has (not will 
save) already saved his children in his e* 
ternal mind, and that none of them shall 
be taken from him, and we further believe 
that not one soul will be saved, only those 
that were saved in the covenant of redemp- 
tion, and Chri>t himself gives the reason, 
because 1 never knew you, depart from me, 

Now lei us try, as you recollect We told 
you that we intended to try, to prove our 
doctrine. When the fulness of the time had 
come, God sent forth bis Son mule of at 
woman, made under ihe law, lo redeem bis 
children from under the law; and God dis- 
patched an angel from heaven lo earth, 
even to Joseph, and what was. the saluta- 
tion, that she should bring forth a Son, and 
that thou shoul'dst call his name Jesus, & 
that be should save, his people from their 
sins, not in them: the same people that is 
spolien about in the 2nd c. of Hebrews, 
13th v. liehold I and the children which 
God hath given. Forasmi*eh then as the 
children are partakers. of flesh and blood, 
he also himself likewise took part of the 
same; that through death be might destroy 
him that had the power of death, thai is the 
devil; and deliver them who through fear 
of death were all their lifetime subject to 
bondage. For verily he took not oh him 
the nature of angels; but be look on him 
the seed of Abraham. Wherefore in all 
tilings il behoved him to be made like unto 
bis brethren, that he might be a merciful 
and faithful high priest in things pertaining 
to God, to make reconciliation for the sins 
of the people. 



Dear brethren, fi t our minds reflect back 
in eternity, and view with astonishment 
the surpassing love of God in the gift ol 
his dear Son, that although vile rebellious 
fnaji had sinned, and fell under the frowns 
of his displeasure, that we see Jesus, one of 
the contracting parties, coming down 
through the portals of the skies to man's 
relief, and was obedient even unto death, 
the shameful death of the cross, that we by 
his death might live. Well might the A- 
postle say, behold what manner of love the 
father has bestowed on us tint we should 
be called the sons of God. Yes he conde- 
scended even to be born in a Manger, in 
order to suit the poorest case. 

We hold him forth as an old Saviour, as 
we have proved to suit the oldest sinner's 
Case; likewise as being the poorest of the 
poor, naturally speaking to suit the poorest 
ease, and my dear brethren, no other Sa- 
viour but such an one as this would have 
suited our case, and now we see Je- 
sus here on earth, who was flesh and 
blood, as mortal man, who eat and slept, 
and drank as man, but was truly God, 
clothed in a body of flesh, and who never 
sinned; he was obedient unto his parents, 
and lived up to all the requirements of the 
law; he said became not to do Ids own will, 
but the will of his Father that sent him, and 
that this is the will of his Father that sent 
him, that all that his father gave to him 
should come to him. And we need not be 
astonished why the world does not believe 
ourdoctrine, for they did not believe the 
Lord when he was upon earth, when he 
preached his own Gospel, and there is so 
many kinds of Baptists now in the world, 
that probably not one half of them believe 
our report; and as we believe that many 
splits in and among professed christians 
have grown out ol the ministry, we feel 
disposed to treat more particular on the 
doctrine of our Lord Jesus Christ. It will 
be admitted by all, that the Lord never 
entered upon his ministry until after he 
was baptised, and immediately after bis 
baptism, he then commenced preaching 
his Gospel, and what was the doctrine? 
he told the Jews that he was the bread of 
life, and whoever eat his flesh and drank 
his blood, should live forever, and this 
was a mystery, and they said how can 
this man give us his flesh to eat. He fur- 
ther told them if the Son therefore should 
make them free, they should be free in- 
deed; their reply to him was, we be Abra- 
ham's seed and were nevej; in bondage to 

iny man, and how siyest thou, we shall 
he ma le free; they had never felt that they 
were in bondage, and therefore did not 
feel the need of being made free. And a 1 - 
gain in the I Oth of John, he said, 1 am 
come th :it (hey might have life, and that 
they might have it more abundantly, and 
that I lay down my life for the sheep, but 
you believe not, because you are riot of 
my shd p, as I said unto you. And we 
hear our blessed Saviour in his prayer to 
his Father, in these words: And now, ho- 
ly Father, glorify tiiy Son, that thy Son' 
may also glorify thee, as thou hast given 
him power over all flash, that he should 
give eternal life to as many as thou hast 
given him. It is plain to every believer, 
that this was the doctrine that Christ 
preached while here upon earth, and when 
he commissioned his disciples and sent 
them out, they preached the same doctrine, 
being instructed by their master; and as 
there is a great difference among preachers 
about faiih, we think it is quite easy to as* 
Certain the true preacher from a preacher 
of the world, and we' will now instance a 
case which will be easy to decide. Do you 1 
think that the Lord Jesus Christ would 
qualify one man and send him out to preach, 
that faith is the act of the Creator, and by 
his own free will and ability, he can rein»- 
state himself into the favor of God; and 
would likewise qualify another and send 
him out to proclaim that it is by grace ye 
are saved, through faith, and that not of 
yourselves, it is the gift of God. Now 
brethren, this is the difference between a 
preachcrof the Lord and preacher of the 
world; how often has the church of Christ 
been disgraced & afflicted by the spirit of 
anti-Christ and misguided zeal, the world 
is now swarming with zealots, knaves, and 
enthusiasts boldly proclaiming themselves 
worshippers of the Most High God. When 
our Saviour was here on earth, he frequent- 
ly spoke of these an-ti- christians.; and what 
thev worshipped. Yes, my brethren, the 
whole world are worshippers of the beast,- 
except the elect, whose names are recorded 
in the Lamb's Book of life, Rev. 13ih c. 
Sib v. You recollect he says himself, I 
have loved thee with an everlasting love; 
&. with loving kindness have 1 drawn thee. 
Now in order to establish this, we must 
prove that the devil has children also, 
which we will do by Christ's own words,, 
for he says, you are of your father the dev- 
il, &c, now it is said that God is angry 
with the wicked,, but his ch-ildrcn he ha* 



loved with an ererbsling love, then ti is 
love commenced when he commenced, 
forthe children being not yet born, neither 
having done any good or evii, ihat the pur- 
pose of God according io election mi<ihi 
stand, not of works but ol him thai calleth. 
It was said unto her, Ihe Lldcr shall serve 
the younger, as it is written, Jacob have 
1 loved, but Esau h ive 1 haled, and because 
ye are sons, God bath sent forth the spirit 
of his son into your hearts, crying Abba 
Father. And now dear brethren, this is 
the sum of the whole mailer, ihat Jesus un- 
dertook on the part of man; he lived up to 
all the requirements of ihe law of his Fath- 
er; he paid every cent was doe Io di- 
vine justice, on the pari of his children, 
and the law demanded cur life, and he 
rendered satisfaction to that by dying in 
our room and stead, anil when agonizing 
on the cross, he bowed his head and cried, 
it is finished! Here I e actually paid the 
debt of his bride. Surpassing lova indeed, 
and says the Apostle, ye are no longer un- 
der the law, but under grace; Jesus lias 
not only died to redeem tHcm but has ris- 
en for their justification; this is the true 
God and eternal life. 

We will now treat of their adoption in- 
to his visible church. The Aposile said we 
are by nature children of wrath even as 
others. The Lord finds all his children 
in the same situation as he did Jacob, in a 
waste bowling wilderness and desert land, 
with their backs towards him, he leads 
them about and instructs them, and when 
they have tried all their strength and find 
it to be all in vain, and give up all t'ov los-, 
then Jesus comes to their relief and speaks 
peace to their troubled soul, and all is e.i- 
sy^ and now that soul is ready to say salva- 
tion is of the Lord. May you grow in 
grace is our sincere prayer for Christ sake. 


Midway, Henry county, Ala. ) 
December, 1S40. 3 
Dear Brethren: Please to give the 
following Circular Letter a place \\\ the 
columns of the Primitive Baptist, if you 
deem it worthy. By order of the Pea 
River Primitive Baptist Association, 



0/ the Pea ltiver Primitive Baptist As- 


Loud: The time of our nrui-uail meeting 
has again rolled round, and you are expect- 
ing from us n Circular Lelier. We lay all 
unnecessary formalities aside, in our intro- 
duction and come immediately to the sub- 
ject. In Paul's epistle to ihe C.datians. 5 h 
chapter and 1st veise, 3-00 will find thc-e 
words lefi on record: "Stand fast therefore 
in the libei ty wherewith Christ has made us 
fiee, and be not entangled again with the 
! yoke of bondage. " 

We make use of that portion of holy writ 

as a foundation for the following remarks. 

The aposile had in the preceding rhap. 

I br'L'u laboring to ami did" clearly show, 

I that his brethren in the faith of the gospel 

I of Jesus Christ were redeemed from under 

the curse of the law by the offering which 

Jesus Christ made for their sins. And, in 

I illustration on l his subject, he makes use of 

1 abond woman and a free, and their offspring 

I and closes ihat chapter by saying, that we, 

! (viz.) himself and his brethren were not 

I children ot the bond woman, but of the 

I free; &then addresses them in the language 

! of our subject, and tells them to stand fast 

in their liberty. We are to unders'and the 

word stand fast to mean, that we should be 

immoveable in point of faith, and not to be 

carried about by every wind of doctrine^ 

but to hold fas! our confidence, and to be 

unshaken by all the delusive doctrines and 

inventions of men, whereby they lie in 

wait to deceive. — Lest by those delusive 

notions of men, we entangled a- 

gani with the yoke of bondage, Yes with 

the yoke of bondage. 

Brethren, our blessed Lord says, his 
yoke is easy and his burden is light, but 
not so with the yoke of bondage, or the bur- 
den either, while in this stale of bond- 
age and of entanglement. Therefore the 
aposile tells his Galatian brelhren, to 

stand fast in their present liberty w here- 
with Chr St has made them \'ice. And 
we would exhort you dear brelhren, in the 
same language and for the same reason as- 
Paul did his Galatian brethren, stand last 
in the liberty wherewith Christ has made 
j you fiee, for you are children of freedom* 
Ves, brethren, for Jesus has made you soj. 
therefore stand fast in your .liberty., only 
use not your liberty as an occasion to the 
flesh, lo the fulfilling of the lust thereof; but 
continue unshaken, rooted and grounded 
in ihe faith. 

When we look around us we see much 
entanglement among men professing Chris- 
tianity, ami many going in the name of 



God's ministers, or ministers of the gospel 
of Christ., crying, lo here, arid lo there; and 
many following after them, by which 
mejns many are greatly entangled in their 
Christian course. And it appears that 
some are striving not only !o entangle 
the feet of the Christian traveller, but are 
trying to get the yoke on their necks, that 
they may be forced into the service of 
the notions of men, contrary to the liberty 
given to God's children, gHilanteed to 
them by the mouth of him that cannot 

Dear bre'hren, these thing* are plainly 
before 3 - ou a' ! . vY'e exhort you go not 
after them; but continue in Cue liberty 
wherein Christ has -already made you free. 
from these entanglements which are of the 
world and are propagated to us by those 
who are disaffected to your liberty which 
ye have in Christ Jesus; having men's per- 
sons in admiration by reason of advan- 
tage, and speaking great swelling words of 
vanity, in order to allure and entice the 
bents of the simple brethren, if such p,et 
in among you,you will soon discover them, 
as they will soon spread disunion, discord 
snd division among you; and s>> entangle 
you with the yoke of bandage, which is af- 
ter the rudiments of this world and not after 
Onrist. When ye see these things among 
you, our .idmonition is to you, to make 
3 scourge of small cords and drive trVmi 
out from among you. Yes, brethren, for 
the government of the church of Christ 
b longs to bis free children, whose 
liberty he has purchased with his own 
blood, Therefore, follow him in his pre- 
cepts and commandments, use his di-e'pliuc 
among you as contained in his word, and 
drive out the Ishmnelites from among you, 
and live in p<vce among yourselves, and 
speik comfortably one to another in the 
nameof our Lord Jesus, who h„s loved us 
and given himself !or us. Watch over one 
smother iii love and meekness support the 
babes in Christ that aie among you with 
gospel nourishments. 

D^-ar brethren, we have wrote to von 
briefly by way of admonition, we could 
still go on and speak of many precious 
things in the name of cur Jesus, but it would 
swell our Circul ir beyond our usual limit*; 
therefore, we commend \ ou to God and 
the word of his grace, and in conclusion we 
fay, may the spirit of the Lord be ever pre- 
sent with you, and be a lig'it to your paih, 
a lamp to your feet while travelling ou 
your pilgrimage through this benighted 

land. That yon may thereby stand fasi in 
the liberty whereby Christ has made you 
free, and thereby be enabled to put to 
flight all the armies of the aliens is our 
earnest prayer for Jesus' sake. Amen. 

Joseph Thigpen, Clerk. 


German/own, Mongomtry co. Ohio, > 
January 3rd, 1S41. 3 

Dear and vveu beloved brethren 
tn the Lord: As another year has rolled 
round, and Hie fif h volume of our valuable 
little p per (i he Primitive) is accomplished, 
it has been the pleasure of God through his 
kiiid providence to prolong my days in 
health thus far; to whom all thanks are due. 
I rio hereby acknowledge lhat s I have and 
do still read your p-ip p r the Primitive wjth 
great satisfaction, and our desire is to have 
the sixth volume con'inued and directed to 
us as usual. I do earnestly intreat you 
brethren to continue in your former way 
and manner of publication, so as not to in- 
terfere whb polities either pro or con, that 
the cou'cals thereof may not be defiled 
thereby. Then 1 shall always be willing 
to support it. 

As it respects the state of religion in this 
s-nifin of country, to wit, the Miami Asso- 
ciation, we have had a cold and languishing 
time for a long session, as it were, grovel- 
ling in the dark; yet the Lord has been 
pleased to enamor our souls with a hunger- 
ing and thirsMing after righteousness. Yes, 
ih- Lord has been pleased to favor us with 
a goodly portion of the blessed word of his 
I iufh, spoken unto us by his under shep- 
herds, widen was much to our edification 
and com fori. 

Brethren, the Lord has blest us with 
some faithful Ministers, who shun not to 
declare! the whole counsel of God both to 
church and world. The brethren have 
appeared at all limes to be anxious to fill 
their seats at times of public appointments. 
The Miami Association holds no kind of 
correspondence with the New School what- 
ever. I believe the New School have 
j been increasing strongly last summer in 
this valley. 

Notwithstanding our barrenness, for a 
long season, the Lord has not forgotten his 
church and people. It appears plainly, 
that he is about to bring on a revival among 
us. When we came to hear the Associa- 
tion Liters read, we were gladdened to 


pimimvii hai'tist. 

hear of some acccs*ions by baptism to the 
number of IS; and we can bear of a consid- 
erable stir in different churches, and 
coming; forward to tiie churches telling 
what great thing* ibe Lord has clone lot 
them, paying no regard to the frozen 
stream, though covered with ire. 

I shall add no more at present, praying 
the Lord God may continue to rule the 
universe and preside over you and 1 and all 
bis dear children. Farewell. 



IJczekiah, to bis brethren editors of (be 
Primitive Baptist, scattered over the 
wide domain of several of the United 
States of America'! and to the highly fa- 
vored of the Lord who believe, and love. 
the general sentiments therein contained, 
grace be to you, and peace from God 
the Father, and our Lord Jesus Christ. 
Dear Brethren-: Having towii'e again 
for my paper, I have waited some lime, in 
hopes of having leisure, that I might write 
something that mighl be worth reading; 
but I am about as much in a hurry as ever, 
find shall have at this late hour to send you 
ohly a few unpolished fragments. I believe 
that the doctrine generally aimed at by the 
writers therein, is the ever Listing truth of 
God. I occasionally differ in some points 
from some of the editors, and ihcy occa- 
sionally clash in some points, one with an- 
other; but not more lhan might reaa mahly 
be expecled in this imperfect sla'e of exis- 
tence. The difference is mere trifling in 
comparison with the frequent jargon of the 
Magarenes, who ate crying out so much for 
union, union, union. There are pome of 
the writers that sometimes deal in hard, 
harsh expressions, which grate the cars of 
our people of refinement. Many of those 
that dwell so near the polishing machines, 
have become so polite that iriwoh of the Bi- 
ble language is offensive to them. But 1 
am such a great oddity, among the learned 
wiseacres of our land, that 1 can bfar a few 
hard sayings, especially if they be Bible 
language. Neither will I abandon a paper 
because it contains here and there an idea 
thatdoes not corre spond with my own view 
of things, while the main sentiments I be- 
lieve to be truth itself. 1 do not feel accoun- 
table fortheerrots that Oliver men publi.-h, 
unless under citcumslances that connect 

me so with 
sjiip them, 

I hem as calls me to fellow- 

But. T have another reason for taking the 
Prim. It contains abundance of infor- 
mation that I am not willing la be deprived 
of, so long a* I can obtain it so easy. To 
me it is comforting indeed, to bear bow the 
war prospers in this day of delusion, of 
trouble — anguish, forgpry and blasphemy. 
In this day when the plowmen, are ma- 
king lonn; their furrows on Ibe back of Zi- 
on. When the enemy wishes to tread 
down the people of God, as the mire of 
the streets. 

And since I love so well to bear from 
brethren in different p iris far and near, I 
think it may possibly be that some may 
wish :o hear how we g< t along here among 
the mountains in the ninth pari of Pennsyl- 
vania and parts contiguous. It is probable 
that we differ bill little from our brethren 

at (he South, and (av West. We are gener- 

ally surrounded) but noi overwhelmed with 
misssionism in its muliiliirioiisappearances. 
There are but few of us, when compared 
with the bulk of the religious community, 
and there i.« in general a good degree of 
harmony of sentiment ; and we are glad to 
sec each other when we meet; and some- 
times believe that we have some foretaste of 
heavenly love. We talk about Jesus & his 
gr,ice, and when in trouble try to comfort 
each oilier with the words of our Lord, re- 
count the promises, &c.&c. When we are 
defamed. (& we have got used to that,) we 
know it is the privilege of the dogs to bark, 
and ours lo keep on our way; so we let the 
dogs bark, and we travel on, conversing 
about the honors of being dt famed, and 
spoken evil of for the name of Christ and 
his gospel. Mourning oyer our backward* 
ness to duty, ami f ;r our unw orthiness, and 
native unwillingness to come up to the stan* 
dard, so as to rejoice that we are counted 
worthy to bear shame for his name. If 
our enemies make a fierce attack upon us, 
thinking lo swallow us up, we are not afraid 
in the name < f ihc Lord to measure swords 
with them, for we know that the sword of 
Ibe spirit, \\ hich is the word of the Lord, is 
quick and powerful, sharper than any two* 
edged sword, (thai the}- have got of man's 
invention.) p'oreim 1 even to the dividing a- 
Mi'nder of soul & spirit, of joints & marrow. 
And is a discernci of the thoughts of the 
heart. And we know thai the Lord hath 
said by Jo.-bua to his ancient people: One 
man of you shall chase a thousand; for the 
Lord your God, he it is that fightelh for 
you, as he hath promised. Moses also 
spake concerning nr.v chasing a theusand, 



3,n^ two putting; ten thousand to flight 
We know that in ourselves we arc weak, 
as weakness itself. Bat in the Lord !re- 
hovali there is evt Hasting strength. licit 
i« that t.eachetli our hands to war, and our 
fingers to fight. 

We believe the Lord will save the afflict- 
ed people-, hut will bringdown high looks. 
For he wi-H light our candle; the Lord our 
God will enlighten, our darkness. For 
by hirn we can run through a troop, by out- 
God we can leap over a wail. Our enemies 
are lively and they are strong; and they 
thai hate us wrongfully, are multiplied, 
they are more (hart the ha'us of out heads. 
But they shall be as chaff before the wind, 
and let the angel of the Lord chase them. 

But, I have one piece of nesvs more he- 
fore I close. To me it is lale news, and 3 
hardly think that tha wire-workers, or ma- 
gicians, have got to be so hold every where 
as they are in the region so near where Sa- 
tan's seat is. The news that ! have 
heard is this. That Jesus Christ did not 
die to save sinners; the salvation of sinners 
was no way connected with the atonement 
made by Jesus Christ. Sinners must 
save themselves, Jesus died to save God 1 . 
to save the dignity of his character — of 
his throne, &c. Man had sinned, and dis- 
honored God, and Jesus died to save his 
honor! not'to save sinners at all: What 
at gross liar Paul must he! if this man told 
the truth. For he said, this is a fai.-hful 
saying worthy of all acC' ptalion.tbatChrist 
Jesus came into the world to save sinners. 
Jesus also could not have spoken the truth, 
when he said, I 1 -y down my life for the 
sheep. John also heais false testimony, 
when he said, Hereby perceive wo the 
love of God, because he laid down his life 
for us. 

1 might fill my sheet with plain pointed 
testimony from the authority of the sung- 
ok kings, and Lot d of lo^ds, to show 
that the author of the sentiment above writ- 
<«n is one of them that, make God a liar, 
because he believeth not the record that 
God hath given (f his Son. And vet he pro- 
fessed to be a minister of Chris:!!! Who 
could have tho't that literature, tha! great 
qualification (so called) for preaching the 
gospel,eould have furnished an infidel with 
so much brass as to come in a sheepskin to 
make the good shepherd a liar! But above 
all who could possibly believe that a congre- 
gation of enlightened Christians could sit 
and hear such sentiments from a pieacher, 
and think that such a man was a minister 

)f Christ. Awful blindness must have be- 
fallen them. And yet 1 do think, that the 
preacher who said it, was one of the most 
honest, and exhibited the clearest light of 
the New School, or doctrine of mission ism, 
that can ( asiiy be found. The clearest light, 
became he preached the real mission senti- 
ment the most p'ain and full; the most hon- 
est, because he boldly preached the delu- 
sion that God had sent him, while the most 
of them are so dishonest they try to keep 
their real sentiment under cover. 

Bui I must close, fur it grows late. So 
good evening, brethren. 


South Hill, Pa. Jan. 9\h, 1841. 


Fort Valley, Houston county, Get. > 
Nov. 29, 1S40. ^ 
DnAit Brethren: Though I feel un- 
worthy to use that appellation, for I think 
the cause of God to be a good cause, and 
j when I look at myself, I am a poor sinner 
! at best. And whether I am a Christian or 
not, ! believe there are Christains, and I 
am one thai believe that God's elect will 
be saved, or arc saved; And also I further 
believe, that your valuable little paper has 
I been and is the means ofdoing much good, 
though I at first wis opposed to it; but 
, reading over the communications of others, 
! the tii.ds, (persecutions) — 1 know about 
] some of them — but the Lord says, he will 
deliver them out. of them all, Then if I 
: be one: of his, brethren, we shall cease from 
the trials and temptations of this unfriendly 

When the spin in the churches took place 
i here, my mind was much distressed, to 
| turn my back as it were on some that I had 
more confidence in as a Christian, than I 
had of myself. 1 thought, O, wretched 
man 1 was; but Solomon says, that there is a 
' way lhatseemeth right unto a man, but the 
i end thereof is the ways of death. Ami it 
j was not long before my mind was fully sat- 
isfied that the new ways were not the 
j right ways in my weak judgment. 

1 think that if men would moderate on 
politics and hard sayings, and endeavor to 
cultivate more a principle of confidence and 
love, we should see belter times. And lest 
1 may leave it out, 1 will say, read in the 
Primitive where brother Moseley and bro- 
er Rockmore wrote upon usury. Brethren, 
if we blame the missionaries about money 
and the use of it, let us look to the scrip- 



tures and seg where we are. I sav 1 hive | 
exacted usury. If wo are Primitive in 
truth, let us leave oil tins usury, arid don't 
iet us abuse them too much, before 
we look well 10 our selves about specula 
tions. If 1 am wrong, lis of the head and 
not the heart. 

I don't say that all of the Baptists are fa- 
vorable to usury, but some of ihem do lake 
usury to my knowledge; and as I h,ave 
above stated. I have, but I fee! like I shan't 
do itanv more. One has juntas much right to 
speculate as another, (I mean Primitive 
Baptists) hut I don't think that we 
are' 'consistent if we claim Primitive prin- 
ciples and not practice them, when we 
find eleven different places in scripture a- 
gainst it. 

We complain of cold times of religion; 
the Lord has not changed. Brethren, 
hear Christ in the 24th ch ip. of M tithew 

f, r, but I think there is no odds in ihcip 

1 have been much comforted when rea- 
ding the litile Primitive p^per. It seems 
tome thai the wriiers in the Primitive have 
been taught at I he same school by the great 
teacher Jesus. It seems to me, this is the 
time when Jesus is about to judge in 
righteousness and make war. There must 
be two contending parties before there can 
be war. Chi i-t has set up his kingdom on 
this earth and has estaMished it by his own 
blood. The dei-il h is got his church set 
up in this world also. 

Now here are two contending parties, 
God carries on his o-vn work over j.fig 
head, of all opposition, so in righteousness. 
he mikes war against the devil's church; 
for the devil tries every effort that he can 
to destroy the church of Christ, & we need 
not think str«nge of so many false teachers 

11 tli verse: And many false prophets incur day, for deceivers are to wax worse 

shall arise, and deceive many, ami 
iniquty shall abound the love of many shall 
wax cold; but he that .-hall endure unto the 
end, shall be saved. 

I say no more at present, only may -the 
Lord of his infinite mercy and goodness 
give us grace whereby we may watch over 
ourselves and other-rlbr good', and not for 


and worse, deceiving and being deceived. 
And this being the case, of course there will 
be new schemes laid by them, and say, 
it is to spread the gospel". They only put 
the name go«pel to get the people to re- 
ceive it, for the way some preachers can 
beg for money or something else, even 
own to a pair of socks, is enough to make 

evil, that our last days may be our best ; God's ministers ashamed 

days. And 0,. dear brethren, 1 wish you \ So Chi ist is carrying on the war of right 

all to remember me in your privets, that eousness, and eventually will judge the 

I may discharge my duty in tiiis life, with 
g conscience void of effunce towards God 
and man. 




gnat whore of Babylon, ami will cast the 
beast and the false prophet, and all that 
worship the b'a-l am! Ins image into that 
lake that burns with fire and brimstone. 
0, ye church of God rejoice, for the jjQf-d 
Cod omnipotent reignelh. 

May the God of all grace keep us 
from evil. F rweil. 

PL E. IS. INT .7. WITT. 


Cheek's X Roads, 7\intif8sec, ? i 

Peceinbei- 24t h, 1S40. $ | 


thb Primitive Baptist ordeA: The. — 

Lord of all grace has spared me and mine to MoniiccHo, Jefferson con nil/, Florida, } 

see one more Christmas' eve, and we still i Dec. Sis/, 1S-I0. $ 

are enjoying the blessings of h : s lii'e and [| Dear Brethp.en and SisiEug: I 
hope some of us feel the influence of God's ' \yilj inform you that I have been receiving 
holy spiritlo encourage us on our journey ami reading th,e precious little messenger, 
in this life, though we have many difllcu.l- .the Primitive Biplistj which I lead with 
tie? to encounter with. For the iLplists I delight to hear there are so many precious 
in this part of the world are much djvi- old fathers and brethren yet contending fi r 
ded, — the Old School, the free wi Hers, the goo&oJJ way, more especially those 
and the missionaries. The mi.-si0na.r4es of North Carolina, old faJiier 4. Biggs, VV. 
and 'he free willlers made an attempt to j flyman and olhc r* tl at 1 have sal under 
unite together at a meeting house « here ail ; the sound o ' t h- i 1 voice in the house of the 
their rort hold their meetings; but from in- ' Lord, so many times in my youthful days. 
formaUon they did not come quite togclh- ! B'a! iho' no-s 1 am old, 1 have not /ergot- 



ten the nlarm, neither have I forgotten (he 
Sabl)aih monisg that"! went down into the 
water wilh my old father Biggs, and came 
Dp out of the wafer. 5 moved from the 
State in 1831. I knew nol. but they Ml mi 
all ceased to blow the pumpet, until i 
read some of their pieces in the Primitive, 
and saw their names, which made me to re 

Brethren and sisters, lite little mess.en- 

And in writing this ccmir.unieatloB to yon I 
will endeavor, God willing, to give you some ot 
my scattering thoughts upon that snored word of 
divinetrut.h, left on record at the 2nd v. of the 4th. 
ch. of the prophet. Zechariah, The prophet says, 
in 1st v: And Iljfi angel that talked with me 
carne.again, and waked me, as a man that is wak- 
ened out of his . sleep. Now it appears that 
the angel had heen with him before, and came 

again, and said unto the prophet, what, seest thou'? 
ger is highly esteemed by a little flock in j And Zechariah says, I have looked, and behold 
this section of country, Iho' not so by oth- L candlestick all of gold, with a bowl (or his 
ers. Brethren, we have not had such sore boprt) upon the top of it, and his seven lamps 
conflicts as some of you have; the giver of theregri, and seven pipes to the seven lamps.which 
all good he thanked for the same. He h s L re „p. on thetnp thereof. 

gvyenusan experienced old spy guard, .\:, w , d?ar brethren, y™ know I have not room 
"'"■■'' '"' ; lhe Un one sheet of paper to attend to all the doc. 

e that is encouched in these words, spoken by, 

howling of wolves and bleating of sheep, l t - 

which we send out annually. Fie. hath at- | , |)e hel |n , |ijs 3t)d v _ , w .„ eiuWvor , (God 
so given us gospel preachers which preach , wi]iin „ t0 iye B mine il|ioil on lhe can(ilfi . 
the doctrine o the old apostles, if the gty- ; s| . pk and (he bow] and - f , am WTOBg . , h 

er ol all good favored us with a right I ,,.,..■„ ., , ... ... ... x T 


Dear brethren and sisters, it often glad- 
dens our hearts and causes us to smile 
when we read our papers and see the old 
brethren from so many quarter* travelling 
on and chopping down the noxious weeds 
which are so injurious to the tender plant, 
as it is certain to grow underneath. Let 
.us all endeavor not to bruise ii. 

Beloved brethren and sisters, this address 
is fiom a simple female, who has for some 
months felt anxious to relate hi r desires. 
Knowing my weakness and unworthiness, 
I am made to fear thai 1 shoud injure such 
a great and precious work. Dear brethren 
if jou. judge this little imperfect scrap will 

God will, through some brother, right me. Now 
you will notice the candlestick was all of gold, 
there was no dross about it. Now what did this 
candlestick represent in the first place? Why, I 
think it represented the church of Jesus Christ 
in her complete glorious state in heaven; and Qod, 
by his angel, revealed it unto the prophet. Now 
you know gold is to he found in various parts of 
the earth, and is collected or found and has to be 
refined before it can be made a candlestick. Ev- 
en so, God finds his little pieces of gold in differnt 
parts of the world, and refines them; or in other 
words changes them from nature to grace. For 
you will notice, he found a Jacob of old, and led 
him about, and instructed him, and kept him as 
the apple of his eye. Well, God has not changed; 
he is the same now as he was when he said to 

injure the cause in any wise, 1 request of 

you tothrow it by with the rest of-the trash, j Moses,! AM THAT I AM hath sent mo unto yc.u; 

I hope to receive your papers while 1 live, :('■ p 4 Ui1t0 Pharaoh. 

»s I expect some of the brethren lias or will | Now you know, dear brethren, that a candle? 

send on. Dear brethren and sisters, 1 stick is something made for use or service, and it 

hi g your prayers for a poor distressed wid- don't make itself; hut if 1 understand the Arminian 

OW and orphans. Fan well. doctrine, the gold can find itself, refine itself, co,n- 

CHLOE IJURSTE. | vert itself into a candlestick, and use itself. But, 

ag^s.-^^ -^ -•—■ — - -^ -ee— - "•- <"gs . r , s sji. p ail ] Fa j,i „n a certain occasion, I have not so 
THE PRIMITIVE BAl*TiST. 'learned Christ, The prophet Jeremiah says: 

jTum thou me, and I shall be turned; after I wa3 
'turned, I repented and I was instructed, &c. The 
prophet who spake the words under consideration 
says, in this samech. (or God through him,) it is 
not by sight.! nor by power, but by my spirit, 
sakh the Lord of hosts. Jesus says, all that the 



JVni/ncsbo:o\ North Carolina, 
January 5th, 1841. 

Beloved brethren Editors: I am blest with Father givelh to me, shall come to me; and 
one more opportunity of writing a U-\v lines for 1,e that P° m eth unto me I will in no wise cast ouf. 
tlie Primitive Baptist. And O, may the God of all And again: No man can come to me, except the 
grace direct my mind and pen while I am wri- Father which sent me draw him. So you see, 

its all of grace, and this grace or favor is bestowed 



en his chosen people, without their good works or 

1 have dwelt too long on the for-epaTt of this sub- 
ject. I will now proceed to speak something 
about the bowl upon the top of the candlestick. 
A question naturally arises here, what did or 
does this bowl represent? Now you know a 
howl is something made in a rigiit shape lor to 
hold or contain what is put in it. Now I think 
the bowl represents Christ as the head of his 
church, and holds all the blessings in store or in 
his hands for the church, and deals them out to her 
in his own way and time. Hut don't understand 
me to believe, that God's people are or may sit 
down on the stool of do-nothing; for I believe they 
are to let their lights shine before men, that others 
seeing their good works may glorify their Father 
which is in heaven. And after they have 
done all they can do, they are unprofitable ser- 
vants, they have only done thai which was their 
duty to doi But there are a great many pharisees 
in this part of God's m.ral vineyard, who be- 
lieve a great deal in their good works. 

But to return. Now the test don't say the 
bowl is gold; but 1 believe the bowl is as pure as 
the candlestick, inasmuch as I think it represents 
Christ, bring upon or the top of, as Christ is the 
head of the church. Paul says: As the man is 
the head of the woman, or wife, so is Christ the 
head tif the church, &e. 

I must come to a close, as my sheet is nearly 
full. I sincerely wish the brethren to continue 
the Primitive Baptist, and continue to write such 
communications as brother S. Parks & many oth- 

ers, I have only touched upon tin 




JV/ii/e's Slorc, Jl/ifon county, A 7 , Ci 7 
December Uth, 1840, 5 
Dear Brethren Kditohs: The time is come 
when you expect to hear from me, a subscriber for 
year valuable paper, the Primitive liaptist; i-n 
which I do read so many of the precious commu- 
nications from my unknown yet beloved brethren 
in the different parts of the United States, which is 
as a feast of fat things to my soul. And I some- 
timps feel a a desire to bear some humble part in 
the work; but when 1 remember I am a man of ve 
ry little education, and of a slow and stammer- 
ing speech; and if I could write and find words to 
express or convey my ideas, can't write them so 
they be understood I fear. But there is a passage 
of sacred writ on my mind since I began to write, 
& 1 feel like making some remarks on it, or giving 
a tew of my tho'tson the same. And when yon see 

it you can do as you please with it, and I shall 
think it is right. For I don't want to injure 
the cause I so highly esteem as I do this, the 
cause of God. 

Yet there are so many notions among the people 
concerning God and religion, and so many denom- 
inations of professors, and they have different 
forms and modes of worship and service, yet Christ 
says: I am the way, the truth, and the life; no 
man cometh unto the Father but by me, .lohn, 1-1 
c. G v. And now to hear the ways pointed out by 
the world and carnal professors, the way to God 
and happiness, it is plain they know not God nor 
his ways. Now 1 look at the whole of Adam's 
long line of posterity in two classes, first, all en- 
emies to God and his way, sinners by nature, 
dead in trespasses and in sin; there is none that 
understandelh, there is nonn that seekelh after 
G id. Romans, 3. c. 1 lv. They are. all gone out 
of the way, &c. Their throat is an open sepul- 
chre, with tongues they have used deceit, the 
poison of asps is under their lips, whose mouth 
is full of cursing and bitterness against God and 
his church, and the way of peace have they not 
known, &e. 

This is the doleful condition they come into the 
world in, and are all alike by nature, children of 
wrath even as others. This is theclass they all are 
united together in by nature, though there is a 
difference in the professions. And this is the rea- 
son why there are so many denominations of pro- 
fessors. There is a way seemeth right unto 
man, and the end thereof is death. And there are 
many ways that leadeth out of this way, for anti- 
christ basso ingeniously worked, that he has got 
a way to suit every body: and they all lead out of 
this broad way, aud circle round aud fall into the 
same, which is death. And all the sons and 
daughters of Mystery, Babylon, are in this way, 
and spitting poison at Sarah and her children, 
as they are on their journey to the promised 


What I mean is, I don't believe there are hut 
the two principles among all the human family, 
that is, the, true spirit of Christ, and antichrist, the 
false spirit. Bet them be modi rn missionary, 
or Arminian, or what, be one or the other; and 
whenever the spirit of antichrist begins to act 
for God, as itoften does, yon will find the cause of 
fted and his honor to suffer reproach, and his 
word set at nought, and to teach for doctrines the 
commandments of men; having a form of godli- 
ness, hut denying the power thereof; from such 
turn away. For of this sort are they which 
creep into houses, and lead captive silly women 
laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, ever 
learning and never able to come to the know ledge 
of the truth, &c. 2 Timothy, eh. 3. I am the 



Way, (he truth, &c. John, 11 and 6. Here is a 
way, and we are told, straight is Ihe palp and nar- 
row is the way thai leadeih to life, & few there be 
that find it. This way wasg)tup in the ancient 
settlements of eternity, before the highest parts of 
the dust of the world was laid. The Lord posses- 
ed me in the beginning of his way, before his works 
of old. I was set up from everlasting, from the be- 
ginning, orever the earth was. Flere 1 wisdom 
dwell with prudenee, and find out knowledge of 
witty inventions. Here it seems was where and 
when this way was set up, when there was no eye 
to pity, nor arm to save. 

Again he says: I am the door, by me if any man 
enter in he shall be saved, &e. This is the only 
door in which God as an all wise God could un- 
lock the door of time, and the only door channel 
through which God could vent bis mercies rr 
blessings, either common or special to the fallen 
raceofAdam. And the same door in which he 
will fold up time, and by this means Christ will be 
all and in all. 

Now when I consider the character of God 
the Father, and God the Son, and God the Holy 
Ghost, here are three distinct persons in the one 
Godhead, and three office works; and yet it takes 
these three to constitute the one eternal, allwise 
everlasting and unchangeable— the Father to cre- 
ate, the Son to redeem, and the Spirit to call, or 
bring the wonderful counsellor, the mighty God, 
the everlasting Father, the prince of peace; and j 
his name shall be called Jesus, for he shall save ! 
his people froiri their sins, and every purpose : 
shall be established by counsel; & these three per-; 
sons, constituting the one God, had counselled to- | 
gi.tber concerning the church, and her deplorable 
condition she would nrpt into by sin and transnres- I 
sions. And the ^'on covenanted with the Father, 
and as they could not be divided, so what is one's ; 
honor or glory is the others; and so the Son stood j 
bound in covenant or agreement to restore that | 
honor to the law and justice of God for his church, I 
as a dase man. Therefore, he stood as a lamb slain j 
from the foundation of the world, as this covenant 
which is ordered and sure in all things is the 
foundation on which the world is built. And 
here the sword of justice was rocked to sleep as it 
were, for four thousand years till the fulness of 
time had coine, when it should drink its fill out 
of the lamb of God, a substitute for the sins 
of the whole world; and especially for those whom 
the Father gave him in the covenant; thine they 
were and thou gave ihem me, and all the Fath- 
er giveth rne shall come to me. Though I have 
not got room to say much concerning their com- 
ing to Christ, of their being raised from the dead, 
and how they come, and what they come to, and 
liow they sresqrared by the word of God; they 

are led into all tjulh, for the great love where- 
with he hath loved us; even while we were dead 
hath he quickened us, together with Christ; by 
grace are ye saved through faith: and not of your- 
selves, it is the gift of Grdi 

I must conclude by subscribing tnyselfyour un- 
worthy brother in tribulation. 



Jjf-prn Grnv, Southampton county, Va.\ 
Dear Brethren: I nin sure that nothing is 
more reasonable than that we should like td pur- 
sue such a course, as would please ourselves and 
others, and such is our disposition, that if we 
please ourselves, we arc not apt lobe fond of hearing 
other people find fault of the course. This 
is our nature. But, brethren, faithfulness be- 
comes the house of God, and when a brother in 
faithfulues may commit ic;te his thoughts upon 
a subject, notwithstanding it may not be suppo- 
sed that it will suit the taste of every reader,' still 
he should be entitled to a bearing — and the sub- 
ject at least a partial investigation before it is con- 
demned, an d its author saddled with wrong and 
strange notions. 

I do not intend the remarks already made as an 
apology for what I am going to say upon the sub- 
ject of preachers and churches, (their duty,) for 
I believe the subject needs none. Nor can I use 
any reasonable remark upon the subject touching 
the duty of either, but what each reader will at 
ence reply and say we knew this bfforei Then the 
object in writing must be for the purpose of putting 
you in remembrance, that you may practice a little 
what you know so much about. The various 
communications I am so frequently receiving con- 
vince me, there is a great anxiety among the 
members of the churches for more preaching. 
This has become to be a cry, loud and powerful, 
yet, it is already loud enough to wake from 
his sleep the watchman who has just thrown 
himself down for a few hours repose, after a hard 
day's labor and sweat for the support of his wife 
and children. Indeed it has driven sleep far from 
his eyes, and his anxious will to obey the call makes 
him willing, not only to endure the fatigues of the 
day, the hardships he may be exposed to in his 
travels, and the scoffs of a gainsaying people; but 
the denying himself the fireside comforts with 
his family, which others consider inestima- 
ble, and which to him is dear indeed. 

And is this all that is required of him when 
these calls are made'? No, Brethren, afterendu- 
ring all the hardships of the day, we hear one 
say, that he must borrow a few hours of the night 
'o labor, that he may have a shilling or two to 


pumri \VK 0APT1ST 

defray his expeiiees while Irnvelling (.o fill hi- 
appointments, And is any body heard to say. 
that this is any more than his duty? No. Is any 
church or people heard to say that this was a mat- 
ter that should have concerned them? Noi Does 
the conduct of the churches, or officers of church- 
es, (for I look upon it as their duty to see to such 
things) say they are willing for a soldier to go a 
warfare at his own charges! Yes', yes, brethren, 
it is much to be lamented, that the most of the 
churches say, at least by their example, when 
they have made a call if it is accepted, either as 
pastor or as an occasional attendant, that they 
have done their duty; they have sufficient 
claim on him at least for one. year without 
manifesting the least knowledge of their du- 
ty toward their preacher by their acts or other- 

Can preachers live on the wind! Are they to 
burthen their wives with the support of their chil- 
dren — and to clothe them in a manner you would 
be willing to see them in your pulpits? Are they 
to administer spiritual things to you, and not re- 
ceive your carnal livings! Are they to feed the 
flock, and not drink of the mill! of the flock? And 
will you muzzle the ox that tre.idcth out the corn? 
No, brethren, no; God lov;;th the cheerful giver, and 
it is more blessed to give than to receive. 
Your preachers are poor, they ask not to be made 

ren; Though Heel limit! on this occasion, 
for Kimbreli departed this life on the 2d of 
June 1S40, and it seems like taking the ad- 
vantage; though he left the world with un- 
tarnished character, only in that one point 
of denying the faith. 

About the date 1830, this man began lo 
drop otit his sentiments about imputation 
at the Association. In '32, that query was 
carried into the Association, which you 
can see, in the PiimiTive, No 2 and 5 vol. 
An. I in '33 and '3 4, the Association became 
divide between Kimbivll and 'i'albo'. 
Talbot contending for original principles 
lil'l both went a-tray. E. Talbot at the 
head of the missionaries', and J. Kimbreli 
at the heal of the Kimbrellites; and the 
Piimitives left between them. So heie 
you can see how the missionaries came on 
one hand, and the Kimbrellites on the 
a! her. 

And now as I am g'dng to set forth 
something that I don't believe, you will al- 
low me to disprove the same by scripture. 
Kimbrellites. was the sins of the church im- 
puted to Christ, or not? Answer, wedo not 
believe he ever received them by imputa- 
tion. Why? Because he (the Father) 
could not impute our sins to us; and if he 

rich but for you to look on them as laborers, wor- \ '■ ,(1 ><»P"<eil them to Christ, he would have 
thy of their hire. 1 do not believe that it is in the l^P^eA them to us also, for we were 
. c ,, i c i • i chosen in him betore the world was. 1 his 

power ot man to stop the gospel from being preach- I . . , - r , ■ ■ 

,,,,,,.. .1 . i ' . • i I* one ol 'heir proofs that it is not so. 2. 

ed, hut 1 do believe, that by tying; to one many ,,,, .... .' , , . -. ,,,. . , 

... ... , ; / ° ... ,. What .pot Christ to. death? Ihelawofen- 

WKlgrhts he will run much slower. And I believe, , ' , , , r> L • ■ ,. ■ 

, , , , vv. that the Jews and Komans had in their 

tnatil there is withheld from your preachers I tie , . . , • i i • , i ., 

, . J , ' ! heari aaajnst him, hec .use he said he was the 

necessaries that would enable them lo travel and j r , , , .,., . • . .. 

, , .,, , , , I Son of Cod. lluse iwo points are the 

preach, that you will have much less preaching. . , 

' , . , . , . ' I p iiMculars. 

Br«lhren, I write, not these things to shame you; j J Novv for the proofs to disprove it. 1. 
nor do I .-peak in respect r ,f want, bat that you j , M _ 6 _ p or ^ ljg „ chi , ( , j g fe 
may go to the word of God. lo learn your duty, and j ||nt{J M a <nn jjS civen , „ nd the government 
learning it, what )-,, know, And may s hail be upon hi* shoulder. snl\ his name 
God bless you and call from the plough and the 
barge, and qualify and send forth aide ministers 
ofthe gospel, that many may he turned from 
darkness to light, and from the. power of sa'tan to 
G'id, is the prayer of your bro. in tribulation, 

e. Hjumnoar, 

Jan'y 1811. 


Franklin, Henri/ en. .flia. ) 
Juhj2\l'h, 18-10. !> 
UnETHUEN Editors: As I have receiv- 
ed a request from bro. Oliver, of Tennes- 
see, to give an explanation of Kimbrellites, 
if you can admit it in your columns I feel 

shall be called wonderful counsellor, the 
mighty God, the everlasting Father, the 
the prince of peace. I will here ask one 
(j;ie-tio:i: What was this Son given fin*, 
or who to, if it was not in covenant for the 
people, that thou gives! me; and he the Son 
stood as a lamb slain before the world be- 
Now no imputation to him, and he 


slain, how cune that? lor he was not \\\e 
son of Adam, but seed of woman; there- 
fore he did not partake of Adam's sins by 
transgression, but by covenant. He be- 
came the seed ol" the woman, which was 
the sonof (Jod,& not the son of man, &; there- 
fore he did not lake sin on him by trans- 
gression, but by covenant. Isaiah, 53 c. 

willing to answer the request of my breth |5v: But he was wounded for ourtransgiesr 



ion«, he was bruised for our i n < q ' t i t i e ~ ; j sat vat ion lianas on as slender a thread as the 
b» chastisement of our peace was upon envy of Cue .lews, when he had entered a 


t.h» chastisement ol our p 

him, and with Ids stripes we are he lie I. | 

6v: All we like sheep have gone astray; 

we have turned every undo bis own way, | 

and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity the movingsof the missionaries in these 

of us all. 7 v: He was oppressed and he parts. On my -last visit to New Providence, 

was afflicted, vet lie opened not his mouth.; |s inrie of the Isbmaeliles turned into mock- 

surety of a better covenant than the Abra- 
ham covenant. 

I now wish to give vnu some account of 

he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter an 
as a sheep before her shearers dumb, so h 
Opened not his mouth. Rn. 4 c. 25 
Who was delivered for our offences, & v. as 
raised again for ourjusufi-c.rtmn. Ro, c. 3. 
25: Whom Goil hath set forth to lie a 
propitiation through faith in his blood, 
declare his righteousness for the admission 
of sins that are past, through the forbear- 
ance of God. Rev. 13 C. SU: As a lamb 
slain from the foundation of the world. 

I shall stop marking scriptures, leaving 
my brethren to hunt for them: Again, 
chosen in him before the foundation of the 
world. He became sin for us who knew 
no sin, that we might be made the right- 
eousness of God in Christ, 

ing, and brethren cast them out, lor they 
shall not heir with the children of the free 
v: woman. And they came back to the 
meeting lions •, from the lime uc left 
thereon -Saturday till Sunday- noming, 
and had broke down the doors of t he hbirss, 
and tore off the hinges, awl piled up the 
seats, and flung some out at the door. This 
was done on the 27ih of Jure, 1M0; and 
the 4th of July was our conference at 
Mount Zion. And sometime in 1839, 
th'! missionaries * 't something called a 
church, like another mushroom sprung 
from nothing; for their preachers w re not 
in order. Now for a great .sympathy, be- 
cause this church and Mount Zion could 

This goes to J not unite, we will send misionnries to 
prove that he was given to us to take on ; Mount Z on and see what we cm do; take 
himself the sins of the church. Then it j our constitution and lay it before Mount 
is evident, that he (Christ) received them j Zion, and see if there can't be a un- 
by imputation, for he was not the son of ! ion betwixt the two churches. John G. 
Adam, but the son of God. How then j Morgan was appointed to come. You 
Could he atone fur sin, if it was not imputed j will remember, that lie is a sot t ofa preach- 
to him? Slopj says one, you Cannot find er. In this time lie wrote a missionary ser- 

the word impute in scripture. Sir, what 
do you immerse the believer for then? 
for that word is not found in scripture. 
There is just as much scripture to prove one 
as the other. So 1 shall leave the first 
head of that belief. 

To the 2nd. How can these things be 
possible, that the law of envy in the Jews, 

mon, and brought it; he appeared at the 
above named conference) told his busi- 
ness., and was suffered to read the suppo- 
sed constitution*; and behold, it was his 
missionary sermon. He soon found he 
could have no success. He used many 
hard expressions, and went off and never 
read his consiitution at all. He used to 

and it en the pivot of their wills whether come here, and was incited to preach be- 

onr salvation came or not, when there was j fore we declared nonfellowship with them; 

n eternal covenant made 430 years before I and he, J. G. Morgan, would stand with 

that law was given, that the Jews said by 
which he (Christ) ought to die. The 
Psalmist said, He (the Father) ha'h made 
an everlasting covenant with me, ordered 
in all things and sure. And thus it be- 
hovelh Christ to suffer and rise the third 

his eyes shut for an hour at a time; but 
when he read his sermon, he stood with his 
eyes open like a man. 

The Primitives hav** theascendancy here, 
and 1 think they will keep it;the missionary 
show I think is nearly over. About four 

day. Mat. 26 c. 24 v: The son of man j years ago, we cxeommunic ded a member 
goethasitis written of him, but wo unto i from our church, and at their next meeting 
that man by whom the son of man is be- ! they received him, it appears to be a great 
trayed. 53 v: Thinkest thou that I cannot] wonder wiih some people, that these new 

now pray to my Father, and he shall 
presently give me more than twelve legions 
of angels. Acts, 2 c. 23 v; Him being 
delivered by the determinate counsel and 
foreknowledge of God. Now I ask the 

lights act so. I will then tell you the rea- 
son — you know the unborn child can't see 
the light. Just so are the missionaries; 
they have never been spiritually born; 
therefore theycan'l see the kingdomof God. 

question, can any person be!ieve> that our 1 don't wish to be understood that a!! thatare 



following of them arc so; but their leading 
characters have never come to the light, 
therefore they are blind leaders. 

N. B. To all the Primitive brethren and 
Associations. At our last appointment for 
a constitution, it was done by a presbytery 
from the Harmony Association, Ga. consist- 
ing of C churches, 3 ordained preachers, 1 99 
members, and is cdled the Chocklahatch- 
ie Primitive B.iptisl Association. Our 
next Association will be held at Mount 
Zion church, Henry co. Ala. on Saturday 
before the 4 h Sabbath in September, 
1S41. And as I am a member of that 
chinch, 1 take the liberty of invitingall the 
Primitive order to come and see us at that 
lime, that you may strengthen the weak 
hands and confirm the feeble knees. 

Beloved brethren in the Lord, one thing 
I wish you to ibi'uk on, -when you arc 
fighting the wolves, that you don't forget 
where the captain of your salvation is} for 
he is above all, and sees all, and knows 
where and when he'p is needed, and says: 
Them that put their trust in him, shall not 
be confounded. Then when you fight, 
don't put your truM in hard speeches and 
unfeeling ridicule, for you don't know what 
manner of spirit _\ou are of. You are 
commanded to do goed unto all men, but 
especially to the household of faith. Then 
commend yourselves to Gud and to the 
word of his grace, which is able to save 
your souls alive, and n hie to hold j-ou up 
in every tri;d, that you fail not. May grace 
attend you all. Amen. 


pel preached; for I do nil brieve tint al'f 
that is in them kind of churches are of that 
s'ripe, but as they are not allowed the pri- 
vilege of hearing the truth, they ate com- 
pelled to stay there and bear it, and hear 
themselves and every true gospel pieacher 
abuse I for being a hard shell, iron jacket, 
&c. Hut, my dear brethren, we should try 
to feel thankful to our heavenly Father, 
that we can bear these sentences without a 

\ours as ever, in hone of eternal life. 


Ten Islands, Benton comity, Alabama, ^ 
April 30th, imo. 5 
Dear Bretp.hen: 1 have this day got 
etie more subscriber for your much belov- 
ed paper, the Primitive Baptist, I rail it 
beloved, because all that love tiuth are de- 
lighted with it. But we are surrounded 
by those go-betweeners and free willeis, 
whom you all know will condemn it, and 
say many bitter and grievous sentences a- 
gainst it. But we should not let these 
things trouble us, for we see that the time 
has already come, that they will not en- 
dure sound doctrine, for they have begun 
to bar up their preaching places against 
all who are of the Old School faith and or- 
der, and say they shall not preach in their 
pulpits. And the reason 1 think is, he- 
cause they do not wish fo hear the true gos- 


Cotton Gin Fort, Mississippi, 
November 23rd, IS40. 
De\r brethren Editors: 1 for the 
first time take my pen in hand to write you? 
a few lines, for I have been thinking some 
time' that I would be glad to inform you, 
my precious brethren, if I may be pcrmit- 
ed to rank myself with you; for 1 profess- 
to be of the Old School or Primitive Bap- 
tist order, if not deceived. But my dear 
brethren, 1 feel myself to be so unqualified, 
or so little a babe in Christ, if one at all, 
that I do not know whether to attempt it 
or not: but have concluded to venture, ho- 
ping 1 hat some of my worthy brethren in 
some way will say, bio Ad kins, don't 
pester the brethren no more with surplus 
news, if you think so. 

Then I can only say, I hope that the 
Lord in 1334, enabled me to see where 
my great strength lay. I could say much 
more on this subject, but 1 will suffice it 
to say that I do hope the Lord put a new 
song in my mouth,even praises to his wor- 
thy name. After two years and a; half, F 
ventured to tell it to my worthy brethren 
at old Brhir Fork church, in North Ala- 
bama. And O, my brethren in the Lord, 
the many upsanduovvns in feelings I hare 
had since. 

After living with the precious breth- 
ren about three years. 1 concluded to move 
where 1 now live. It was a task, my bre- 
thren to part and say, farewell my brethren 
and sisters in the Lord, in North Alabama. 
And since 1 came to this Chickasaw nation, 
it seems like it has been tll2 good will of 
God, for a little few scattered wandering 
biethren to unite ourselves into a constitu- 
ted body, which we call Salem church, on 
Saturday before the fifth Sunday in March 
last; and at our meeting to choose our del- 
egates to send to Butlahatchic Association, 


ttri wdi'lli me was one of my foreth ion's choice 
bufereached the Association with n pcti&n 
nry letter and was received. Am! O, my 
deai 1 brethren! I found "here, if not, deceiv- 
ed, the same quality of brethren ' had ' l ''' 
in North Alabama. Brethren, suffer me 
1o say I could not help shedding tears to 
think 1 had left my brethren in Alabama, 
and almost a broken henit to live by my- 
self here; and behold, 1 think 1 have found 
some brethren that have not bowed lh^ 
knee to Baal, nor to none of the institutions 
of the day. 

Now, my brethren, 1 wish tossy a little pajfr&r Called the Primitive Bap- 
tist. I have been taking it for two year.*, 
and irt it some limes get some pleasant 
feasts, and 1 some nights read it with pleas- 
ure and delight. 1 would say to you, my 
brethren, 1 wish you to s nd it to me 
again, and expect to take it so long as it advo- 
cates the doctrine of the Old and New Tes- 

I could write much more, but it is get- 
ting late in the night, for fear 1 should he 
in the way of abler per.smen I desist for 
the present. Hoping that you will re- 
member us at Salem church and my 
kind neighbors, is the sincere desiie ol 
your unworthy brother in much tribu- 
lation. Farewell. 


Black Hawk. Mississippi. > 
December 21) fh, 1S40. <J 
t>EAR Bhethhen Kimtoks: I receive 
my Primitive Baptist paper with gladness 
and can inform you, that it is gaining 
ground in this pait of the western country; 
and my bumble prayer to God is, that this 
medium of correspondence may keep open 
for the Old School Baptists to lear^ the 
growth of each other; praying the Lord to' 
bless the little mes-enger, till it may cover 
the whole earth. No more at present, but 
yours in the best of bonds. 



North Carolina. — .1. Biggs, Sen. WiUlamston. 
R. M.G.Moore, Germantun. W. w. Mizell, Ply- 
mouth, Charles Mason, Roxhoro'. James Wil- 
der, Anderson's •Store. Benjamin Bynnin, 
Speight's Bridge. H. Avera, Averasboro' '. J, H, 
Keneday, Chalk Level. Burvvell Temple, Wake co. 
Geo. w. McNeely, Leaksville. Win. H. Vann, 
Long "reek Brdge. Thomas Bagley, Smilhjield. 
James H.Sasser, Waynesboro'. John Fruit, San- 
dy Creek. L. B, Bennett, Heuthville. Alfred El- 

Ms, Slrabanei. Cor's Canaday, Cruvensville, Wil- 
liam Welch, Abbott's Creelti Lamh, Camden i 
0, II. A. Bi [Sains, !r. Stanhope. C. T. Saw- 
yer, Powell's Point. Isaac Tiilery, Lapland. 
Thomas Miller, Elizabeth City. Harris Wil- 
kerson, West Point, Isaac Alderman, Moore's Cree/ti 
James Miller, Wilton Park. David R. Canaday, 
French's Mills. L. P. Beardslcy, Greenville. I- 
saac Meekins, Columbia, 

.South Carolina. — lames FTembree, Sen. An- 
derson C //. tJharles Carter, Cambridge. B. 
Lawrence, Effingham. James Buiris, Sen. Bold 
Spring. William S. Shaw, Bock Mills. Levi 
Lee, lllarjfi'i/le Andrew Westmoreland, Cash' 
viWe. Hi Hamilton, Aiken, Marshal McGraw, 
Brown's. John L. Simpson, Cooltham, J. Gi 
Bowers, Hickory Hill, Win. Nelson, Camden, G. 
Mathews, Mount Willing. Jacob B. Uiggins, 

Georgia. — William Moseley, Bear Creek. Al- 
ien Cleveland, MeDonoagh, John Mclveimey, For- 
syth. Anthony Holloway, Lagrange. P. M. Oal- 
| houn, Kn.oxvi.lh. It. Iteese, Eatonton. Thomas 
I Amis and David. w. Patman, Lexington. Jona- 
than Neel, James Hoi tings worth and Stephen 
I Castellow, Macon. Charles P. Hansford, Union 
I //,'//. John w. Turner, Pleasant till. Joshua 
I Bowdoin, -1 lairsvilte. .las. M. Kockmore, Upatoie. 
Clark Jackson feAhcdnego McGinty, ForlGaines. 
' P. H. Edwards, Georgetown. Win. Trice, Tho n- 
aston. Ezra VIcCrary, Warrcnton. Prior Lewis, 
Rodney. lohn Lassettcr, Vernon. B.Pace, Van Wert. 
L. Poacock-,'CfflS«ui//e. V. D.Whatlev, Barnesville. 
Alex. Garden and Thomas C. Trice, Mount Morne. 
Elias 0. Hawthorn, Bainbridge J. G. wintring- 
ham, Florence. William M. Amos, Greenville 
Randolph Arnold, Latimer' t> Htore. Thomas J. 
Baaemore, Ciinloa. Jo-dah Stovall, A/uilla. G. 
P.Cannon, Culloden-ille. Jason Grier, Indian 
Springs. Wm. MoElvy, Attapulgus. Furna Ivey, 
M.l/edgesille. Wm. Garrett, Cotton River, Jesse 
Moore & John Hardie, Irwinton. Leonard Pratt, 
JVhi/esville. Edward Jones, Decatur. A. Hen- 
don, Shilo. A. G. Simmons, Hickory Grove, 
John Lawhoti, .Chenuba. John Herington, Wei- 
b.orn'sMilh, Jirmes-P, Ellis, FineviUe, F. Hag- 
gard, ■ Wieas. H. Barron, Jackson, A.M.Thompson, 
Port, Valley. Josiah Gresham, White Hall. Daniel 
OW.eel, Fowlt'on. John Applewhite, Waynesboro' 'i 
J.B.Morgan &.B, V iliouse, Friendship . Sam'l Wil- 
Jiauis. Ffrir Play, John Wayne, C'am'si Edmund 
Stewart, Hoot ens vi lie. R, S. Hamrick, Carroll/on. 
David Smith, Cool Spring, Allison Spear, Flat 
Shoals, Moses Daniel, JBvuicry. Moses H.Den- 
man, Marietta. James Bush, Blakely, Asa 
Edwards, Houston, Richard Stephens, Sen'r. 
Tarversville, John Stroud, Kendall. James Scar- 
horongh, Stulesbortugh, Jethro Oates, Mul- 
berry Grove, Robert II, Thompson, Scottsville. 
Owen Smith, Tioupville. Kindred Braswell, 
Duncansvi/le. Edmund S. Chambless, Stalling* 
Store. James w. W nlkeri .Marlborough . Edmund 
Dumas, JohnstonviMc. ,yavid Rovvell, Jr. Gr«n- 
uersviWe. Joel CoMe.y, /Qbclngton, Benjamin C. 
Burns, Villa Riccu, David Jones, Traveller's Best. 
W. B. Mullens, Rossvil/r^ Willis S. Jarrell, 
Lumpkin. Thomas E.veiritt, Bristol. 

Alabama. — L. B. Moseley, Cahawlia. A. Kea- 
ton, Belmont. Benjamin Lloyd, LaFayetle, \V, 
w. Carlisle, Frcdonia. Henry Dance, Daniel's 
Prairie. Wm. w. Walker, Liberty Hill, Dan'l 


emMmVE baptist. 

G ifford, Greenville. Samuel Moore, Snow Hill. 
John G. Walker, jWl/on. Henry V\ illiams, Ha- 
vana. Samuel Clay, Mount Hebron, .fames 
Daniel, Claiborne, Elias Daniel, Church HilL 
John Bonds, Clinton , David Johnston, Leighion. 
Adam McCreary, Brooklyn. Josiah Jones. Jack- 
son. David Jacks, New Market. Sherrod w 
Harris, Vienna. John McQueen, Graves' Ferry, 
William Talley, Mount Moriuh, Graddy Her- 
rino-, Clayton. Ui w. .leter, Pint Lata, bamuel 
Ci Johnson,'/ J /.wrc/ Grove. VVrii.Crutc!ier,//u/^s- 
vllle, \\ mi Hi Cook and H'y Petty, Pickensville. 
Seaborn Hamrick, Planiersville. James Si Mor- 
gan, Dayton. Wm. Hyde, Gainesville, Rufus 
Daniel, Jamesion, Frederick Mines, G.ts/on, Z. 
JoUns, 1'iara, Eli McDonald, Painsuilk. Wm 
Powell, YoungsviUe. lohn Brown, IVaeooca, Silas 
Monk, Hone Slide Bend, R. Lackey, Scraper. 
James F. Watson, Abbeville. David Tread well 
arrd R.w. Carlisle, Mount Hickory. Joseph H. Hol- 
loway, Vlizle Green. Jesse Lee, Farmers- 
ville. William Gruhbs, Louifville. Henry Ad- 
ams, Mount Willing. Joel Hi Chambless, Lowe- 
vi/le. Elliot Thomas, Williams/on. F. Pickett, 
China Grove, James Grumbles, Benton. John 
M. Pearson, DudeviWe. John D. Hoke, Jackson- 
ville, Elijah R. Berry, Cobb's Store. Willis 
Cox, S'Jukeehatchie. Hazael Litllefield, Ten Inl- 
ands. John w. Pellffrrt, /'Vfiwklm* Philip May, 
Belmont, A. D. Cooper, ]Vi\\iamston. John 
Harrell, Missouri. James K. Jacks, Eliiori. 
Henry Hilliard, BeWville. Join) A. Miller, James 
Mays and James McCreless, Ockfuskce. Dur- 
ham Kelly, A\cxandria, Josian M.Lauderdale, 
Athens, William Thomas, Prospect Ridge. John 
Bishop, Jnn'r. Crockettsville. lames Gray, Cme- 
ta. Thomas L. Roberts, MonroeviWc. James Hil- 
dreth, Pleasant Plains. William -Devlin, Gainer's 
Store, E. Mi Amos, Midway, 

Tennessee. — Michael Burkhalter, Cheeksville, 
Aaron Compton, Sqmervilk. Asa Newport, 
Meesville. James Maulden, Van Burr.n. Solo- 
mon Ruth, Westley. Wm. Croom, Jackson. Sion 
'&ms i Three Forks', John w. Springer, SugarCreek. 
William Si Smith, Winchester. Thomas Hill, 
Sevierville. Thos. B. Yeates, Lynchburg, C.T. 
Echols, Mifflin. Aaron Tison, Medon. George 
Turner,- Waderly. Abner Steed, Mulberry, Henry 
Randolph, Snodysville. Pleasant A. Witt, Cheek's 
X Roads. J, Cooper, Unionville. Michael Bran- 
son 1 , Long Savannah. Jasi Hi Holloway, Haze] 
Green, William MeBee, Old Town Creek, Ben- 
jamin W. Harget, Cherryville, Robert Gregory, 
Carouth's X Roads. John Scallorn, Shady Grove, 
A. Burroun-hs, M oore's >*, Rcudsc Samuel Hag- 
gard', BaviPa Mills. 

Mississippi. — WorshamMann, Columbus. Wil- 
liam Huddleston, Thomaslan. Nathan Tims, 
Kosciusko. Jonathan D. Cain, Watcrford. Na- 
than Morris, Lexington. Charles Hodges, 
Cotton Gin Port. Bejamin E. Morris, WhceX- 
in>*. Simpson Parks, I^ekhart's Store, Mark 
Prewett, Aberdeen, William Kingo, HamiUon. 
Tames M. Wilcox, Louisville. Edin'd Beeman 
and Thomas H. Dixon, Macon. John Erwin, 
LinVhorne, Herbert D. Buckham, Pontotoc. Wil- 
liam Davis, Houston. Wm.H Warren, Dekalb. C. 
Nichols, Stump Bridge. Wooten Kill, CooksvilU, 
John Davidson, Carrollton. Thomas Mathews, 
Black Hawk. A. Botters, Fulton. J. R. Gold- 
iltjr, Bellefontaine, 

Flokida, — James Alderman, China Hill. T).*t 
vid Calhnvay,?C/;e/T,y Lake. John F. Hagan, Mo* 
t\c<\\o. James Stokes, Milton, 

Louisiana. — Eli Headen, Marburyville. Thosi 
Paxton, Greensboro'. 

Missoum. — Joel Ferguson. Jackson 

Illinois. — Richard M. Newport, Grand Vieu, 
Thomas w. Martin, East Nelson. 

Indiana. — Peter Saltzinan, New Harmony. I- 
saacwi Demnan, GaWatin, 

Ohio. — Joseph H. Flint, Trenton. John B. 
Moses, German/on, 

Kkntupky. — Levi B, Hunt, Manchester. Wash- 
ington Watts, Co-neliusvi\\e. Levi Lancaster, 
Canton. James Holloway, Fait BeaWng. Dein- 
cey Burgess, Salem. 

Virginia*-. — Rudolph Rorer, Berger's Store. John 
Clark, Fredericksburg. Wm. w. West, Dumfries. 
William Burns, Halifax 0, //■ Jesse Lankford, 
Bowers's, Elijah Hanshrouoh, SomerviWe. Wil 
son Davenport, White House, Arthur w. Eanes, 
Edgehii], James B. Collins, Burnt Chimneys. 

Pennsvlvania. — Hczekiah West, South Hill. 
Joseph Hughes, Gum Tree. 

New York. — Gilbert Beebe, New Vernon. 

Massachusetts. — James Osbourn, Wobum, 




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H. Litllefield, 
Martin t. Bull, 
Wm. R. Raker, 
Simon Carson, 
Rowel I Reese, 

Joel Coliey, 3 

John McKenney, 10 

lienj. Wheeler, 3 

J. J. Kirkbnd, 2 

James S. Rattle, 1 

A. 13. Mains, Jr. 1 

Ed ward Jones, 5 

Thomas Everett, 5 

Wni. Grubbs, 5 

Oors. Canaday, 5 

Wm. Smith, 5 

Jer. Bought ery, I 

Jolm Way ne, 5 

John Speir, Sen'r, 1 

Daniel Dozier, 1 

Wm. Thomas, 5 

Joseph Hollo way, 3 

Thomas Bagley, 8 

B. Lawrence, g2 
Geo. Gray, 1 

Wash'iT Watts, 3 
L P. Benrdsley, 2\ 
Liziah Hardea, I 
M. Harrington, 1 
Jofeph Ringgold, I 
Richard Evans, 1 
Fiances Litlle, 1 
Ezra McCrary, 6 
J. R. Golding, 5 
JohnC. Galloway, I 
James McCreless, 5 
V. D. Whalley, S 
Robert Gregory, 3 
Abraham Mann, I 
Nalh'l Barrett,- I 
G. W. Webb, I 
Thomas Gibson, 3 
W. A. Vawter, 1 
Reuben Manning, I 
Seaborn Jones, 1 
R. P. Spencer, 10 

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Broom' 's, Fairfield district, S. C. ~) 
Feb. Mlk, 1*40. y 
To all ihe Baptist Associations, all the Bap- 
tist churches, and to the Bop! ist profess- 
ors of religion through out the United 
Stales, and throughout the whole world, 

What are confessions of fiith? and what 
are summaries of discipline? Of what au- 
thority are such compilation's among the 
Baptist denomination? Dear brethren, we 
think them not of divine authority. When 
we go to prove our doctrine to' those who 
are without Ihe visible church, it would be 
presumption to refer to a confession of faiih 
— we must refer to the scriptures of the 
Old and New Testaments. But when 
we have controversies with those who 
are within ihe visible church of the 
Baptist denomination, about the doc- 
trine or discipline of our church, we maj 
refer to human compilations, as being de- 
clarations of our faith and order, at the lime 
these compilations were published to the 
,world. How else can we ascertain 
when there are departures from the 
faith and order of our forefathers? How 
else are wc to ascertain whether, there is 
uniformity in doctrine and discipline among 
our churches, than by observing wherein 
& how far ecclesiastical or associational bo- 
dies have departed from the old faith and 
orde'r'of the Baptist denomination', as they 
are laid down in the Baptist confession and 
Baptist discipline? When, therefore, we 
refer to these compilations, in showing 
wherein and how far the Bethel Baptist 
Association and her ministers have passed 

over and are passing over their proper land- 
marks, we would not be understood to be 
setting them up as of equal or paramount 
authority to the word of God, but merely 
as rules fixed on for the government of the 
parties referred to in them: which ought to 
be adhered to till better rules can be dedu- 
ced from the word of God. 

The Bethel Baptist Association has 
trampled on the rights of the Ararat 
church. That church has presumed to 
exercise discipline; but the Association has 
rendered her discipline null and void. She 
| has transcended all the powers given her 
'by any being, human or divine. She has 
.decided, (by publishing in her Minutes' 
the report of her committee,) that that, 
church is in disorder, but has not said in 
[What respect — whether she (the church) 
has not kept peace with the Association in 
; imbibing the new light principles, or 
j whether her disorder be of some other 
nalure. This, as is the doings of Mystery, 
Babylon, is kept a profound secret from 
other churches and from sister Associations 
wilh whom she maintains correspondence. 
| Now it is essential, in curing any disorder, 
I to ascertain its nature. We know not of any 
\ disorder in that church save such disorder 
as is mseoarabte from a stale of imperfee- 
Ition. Ifii be disorderly not to give up a!! 
! ecclesiasTwI rule & government, but to exer- 
cise discipline, then is the Ararat church in 
disorder. And taking it for granted that 
it is in this respect the committee re- 
: ported and the Association published to the 
world the report that the Arafat church 
was in disorder, we will now make some 
little examination of (lie power and author- 
ity of churches and Associations,' as that 
power and auihoriry is defined and descri- 
bed in the Baptist confession of faith, the 
| Baptist discipline, and the instrument that 



the Bethel Association published wilhher 
Minutes in 1833, as her constitution, and 
then make some extracts from the Min- 
utes of the Bethel Association, and let 
brethren, and let Associations and the 
churches, and the world at large, judge for 
themselves who is in disorder. In thexxvii. 
chapter of the confession of faith we have 
these words: To each of these churches, 
thus gathered according to his mind ('hat is 
the mind of Christ) declared in Ids word, lie 
hath given all that (a) power and authority 
whicfi is any way needful for their carry- 
ing on that order in worship, and discipline 
which he hath instituted for them to ob- 
serve, with commands and rules, for the 
due and right exerting and executing of 
that power. Chapter xxvii. §7. All that 
are admitted into the privileges of a church, 
are also (b) under the censures and gov- 
ernment thereof according to the rule of 
Christ. Ibidem §12. These messengers 
assembled (in an associational capacity) are 
not entrusted with any church-power prop- 
erly so called, or with any jurisdiction o- 
ver the churches themselves, to exercise 
any censures either over any churches or 
persons, or (c) to impose their determina- 
tions on the churches or officers. Ibidem 
§ 15. 

Achurch thus constituted, says the dis- 
cipline, page 5th and 6th, §-tih, has the 
keys or power of government, within itself, 
having Christ for its head, and his law for 
its rule. It has the power and privilege cf 
choosing its own officers, Acts vi. 3. chap, 
xiii. 2. exercising its own discipline, Mat, 
xvi'i. 17. and of administering the word 
and ordinances, for the edification and corn- 
fort of its members, Act's ii. 4G. All 
which, with every oiher act of discipline, 
each distinct church may exercise, without 
being subject to the cognizance of any oili- 
er church, synod, or council whatever. 1 
Cor. v. 12. Mat. xviii. 17. 

Says the constitution of the Bethol Bap. 
Association, "such a body (as an Associa- 
tion of delegates from the churches) should 
by no means consider itself a superior judi- 
cature vested with exercive power or au- 
thority over the churches. It should nev- 
er presume to impose its sentiments on its 
constituents, under pain of excommuuiea? 
tion; nor anathematize those who do not 

(a) Mat. xviii. 17, IS. 1 Cor. v. 4,5, 13. 
2 Cor. ii. 6, 7, S. 

(b) 1 Thes. v. 14. 2 ThesJii. 6, 14,15. 

(c) 2 Cor. i. 21. 1 John iv. 1. 

implicitejy submit to its determinatirinV, > 
which would, in reality, be nothing less 
than ecclesiastical tyranny^ and would Bet- 
ter comport with the arbitrary spirit of po- 
pish councils, than with that meekness, 
humility and love, which distinguished the 
true disciples and Primitive followers of 
the lowly, yet adorable Jesus. 

The Baptist Association, therefore, arro- 
gates no higher title than that of a council 
of advice consistently with which epithet it 
ought ever to act, when it acts at all, with- 
out intruding upon the Primitive rights of 
the churches, as independent and congre- 
gational. See Mat. xxiii. 10, 12. John 
xviii. 3-G 2 Cor. x. 4, 8. 

Concerning church-officers the Baptist 
discipline reads thus, the ordinary officers 
ol the church, and the only ones now ex- 
isting are ministers and deacons Phil i.I. 
Id the first goSpel churches there were oth- 
er officers, such as apostles, pro] hcts and 
evangelists, 1 Cor. sii.2S. Ephes. iv. 11. 
who were endowed with extraordinary gifts, 
which were then necessary for the confir- 
mation of the gospel, but are since become 

And the Bethel Baptist Association uses 
this language in her circular letter; writ- 
ten by Colonel Jonathan Davis: '-Those 
j that were called apostles, prophets and e- 
vangelists in those days (viz in the days 
when the gospel church was in her Primi- 
tive order.) were inspired of Cod, and 
spake as ihey Were moved by the Holy 
Ghost. The Lord «ave them revela'ions iri 
person, or by angels, visions, or some 
miraculous way: and as we dispute that 
| any have possessed such miraculous gij I 's, 
since the apostolic age; we question the 
propriety of using the title of prophet} 
apostle, or evangelist, in application to 
,any minister of the gospel since that age. 
Hence we would restrict the offices of the 
ministry, to bishops or pastors and teach- 
ers.** But how well the next quotation 
I will agree in sentiment with the above, 
the reader will presently see. "Does the 
office of an evangelist exist in the church 
at the present day?" Asks the Providence 
church in 1S32, (see Minutes of 1S32 page 
2nd, and Minutes of 1S33, pp. 4 and 5.) 
•'The answer is made in the affirmative," 
says I he Association. If so, can they who 
are evangelists act independently of the 
church? Enquires the Providence church. 
"The evangelist is authorized to preach 
and baptize independently of the control 
of any separate church," says the Associa- 



tion, in 1S33 (see the fifth page of the Min- 
utes.) "In the afternoon," Say the Min- 
utes of 1S37, "Br. James Owen, Jr., was 
regularly ordained as an evangelist. The 
sermoiij preparatory to ordination, was 
delivered by Elder James M.Thomas, from 
2d Timothy, 4th chapter 5th verse, last 
clause: Make full proof of thy ministry. 
The candidate was examined by Elder J. 
Davis. The prayer was offered by Elder 
(1. 0. B. Dargm. The charge given by 
Elder Nicholas VV. Hodges." 

The next quotation from the Minutes 
We shall make by referring to a circumstance 
that took place. in the Association in 1S33 
Mr. Robert Meeks, with others, having 
been excommunicated from the New Beth- 
el church in the year 1833,* came on to the 
Association which met in October, with 
some kind of mitten complaint or petition 
for a fedress of grievances. Col. Davis en- 
quired how many were there associated 
with Mr. Meeks: and was answered, there 
were eight others. He observed that 
among such a number it was likely there 
were some Christians: and moved that a 
committee be appointed with power to re- 
store them. BrotherS. S. Burdetl arose, 
with the Minutes of the preceding year 
in his hand, and enquired what right had 
that Association, who claimed no higher 
authority than of an advisor)' council, 
to undo or rescind the acts of an independ- 
ent church, who held the keys of its own 
doors, and knew no higher earthly or hu- 
man authority than its own. "I'll call 
your attention," said brother Burdett, "to 
the sixth article of the last year's Minutes. 
It is here stated," said he, pointing to tfre 
article, that a committee was appointed, 
with "power, without a reconciliation, to 
cut off I he offending party." Did that 
Association, lie enquired, presume to take 
the reins of government out of the hands 
of an independent church; and undertake 
to deprive her of that authority that Christ 

*This exclusion had taken place accor- 
ding to the advice or direction of a com- 
mittee of the Association: but Colonel Da- 
vis had not been a member of that com- 
mittee. The committee consisted of Thos. 
Ray, Elijah Ray, Ellas Mitchell, Thos. 
Greer, Elijah Hubanks, J. McCissick and 
P. Brewton, as appears by the Minutes of 
1832: So that Colonel Davis was left out 
of that committee: and without him, it 
seems he thought they could not do right- 

hid given her to regulate her own affairs, 
and exercise discipline according to her un- 
derstanding ef his rules in his written word? 
Did she presume by her comnuttees,to break 
in upon the churches, take away their keys 
& exclude from & restore members to their 
fellowship, at her pleasure? He was sure, 
he said, that was going an unwarrantable 
length; such a length as was unprecedented 
in the acts of any Baptist Association be- 
fore. Colonel Davis, who had been the 
Clerk of the Association at the preceding 
meeting (viz. at the meeting at which the 
said committee had been appointed) pre- 
tended that the committee had been appoint- 
ed to visit the New Bethel church and cut 
off Jrom the. fissociulion the nine offend- 
ing members of that church, and that the 
present motion was made by him with the 
intention that a committee be appointed 
with power to restore them to the Associa- 
tion again. But this had not even the ap- 
pearance of plausibility iri it: as the mis- 
understanding was wholly between the nine 
offending members (as they are called in 
the Minutes) & the church; & no nevv light 
had reached the Association, on the subject 
of their crime (whatever it was) orof their 
innocence. And more than that, the nine 
offend, ng members (as they are called) 
had been cut oil from the church, by the 
direction of the committee of the preceding 
year (viz of the year 1S32:) and in no oth- 
er sense had they been excluded or cut off 
from theAsso'n,than in being excluded ft om 
the church: nor were they now, in any other 
manner than by a restoration to the church, 
to be restored to the Association. For the 
Associ it ion did not seem at all to anticipate 
such a thing as disowning, are withdrawing 
fellowship from, the majority of the church, 
which she must do in restoring the mi- 
nority (or nine members) merely to the 
Association. Just look over the sixth ar- 
ticle, already referred to. It states that 
"The committee appointed to inquire into 
and if possible to adjust the difficulties ex- 
isting in the New Bethel church, report- 
ed that they (had) met, but did not suc- 
ceed in restoring fellowship" this was, 
in restoring fellowship between the nine 
members and the church; and so what fol- 
lows respected the same parties; for the 
Association was .by no means a party, but 
a mediator, (or at least, was viewed and 
looked up to in that light.) The M nute 
goes on to slate that "in consequence of the 
absence of some of the parties, nothing 
was done. Thence," continues the si*tU 



article in the Minutes, "another committee 
was appointed with power (without a re 
conciliation) to cut off the offending par- 
ty;" that is, to cut off from the church, the 
offending party in that church; for they 
were not a party in litigation or at variance 
with the Association. So that both the 
cutting off and the restoring mentioned, 
evidently referred to their relation to the 
church, & the committee's cutting oil' from 
and restoring members to the fellowship 
or communion of that church — a thing 
without a precedent in the acts of any 
Baptist Association, according lo the de- 
claration (above given) of the Rev. S. S. 

The next quotation we shall make, will be 
from the Minutes of 1834, page 5th. 

"22. On motio'n, the cases- of Bethel and 
Ararat churches were reconsidered; when 
the following resolution was agreed to, viz. 

"Resolved, That in case the preceding 
course advised by the Association fail, thai 
a committee of eleven, invested with all 
the powers nf the Association, be appoint- 
ed to visit each of said churches (here follow 
the names of the committee men) and to 
make a final decision of the fitfeiaess. ri 
We would have thought, on reading this 
item in the Minutes, if not. before, Mat this 
Association was truly a daughter of Holy 
Mother, if it had not been that she styles 
herself Bethel Baptist Association. 

The next item shall be from tiie Min- 
utes of 183S and 1S39: '.'Called for the re- 
port of the committee appointed to visiL Ar- 
arat church; the committee reports the 
church to be in disorder; the report receiv- 
ed, a-nd resolved that we withdraw our con- 
nexion from them, and the same commit- 
tee be appointed to revisit them (clothed 
with power,) to give Setters to those en- 
titled, or constitute a newehurch ; n friajbril y 
constituting a quorum. The Committee 
appointed to visit the Ararat church, made 
the following report, viz. thai llicy had ex- 
amined into the matter committed to their 
charge, and think it expedient to grant 
letters of dismission to the minority, (say 
seven;) which was agreed in by tlve Associ- 
ation, and letters accordingly giren. 

An application being received from the 
majority at Ararat, and money sent, up, 

it was resolved, That he requested 

to say to them the terms oh which they 
can be received and that the money tent 
tip be returned." 

On reading these items we conclude, 
surely this is Mystery, Babylon, herself. 

i For why else should the Association fccr-p 
it a mystery, that is, keep it a secret wbag 
the nature of the Ararat church's disorder 
is! To be sure, the influenza? has- prevail- 
ed in our country; does she find fault of 
the church on this account? Or is it ar- 
mors! disorder that the committee reports 
that the Ararat church is in?' Then why 
not re orl it to the world? Ami let the 
sister churches & all the Associations u iih 
whom she corresponds, know what disor- 
der that church is in. She says "the com- 
mittee reports the church to he in disorder, 
iiie report received in these times of apos- 
tncy and departure from the faith, what one 
calls order, another calls rtV.vorder; and; 
who is to know what, state the Arara-t 
church is in, unless it be reported to the 
world, what is the use of making such re- 
cords as the Bethel Association makes? 
No body knows what she calls order and 
what she calls disorder. We suppose E.- 
phraim Fant, Dabner Duncan, Colonel J». 
Davis, John M. Barnes, or Alexander 
Campbell, has reported to the Bethel Asso- 
ciation that the Ararat church is in- disor- 
der. And the Association receives the re- 
port; that is, they being evangelists, she 
takes it all for gospel. For what else should 
evangelists say but what i3 ■ entirely consist 
tent w ith the gospel. "God gives revela- 
tions to them," says the Association "irs 
person, or by angels, visions, or some mir- 
aculotfs'way." It is no wonder she receiv- 
ed their report without enquiring any fur^ 
therinto ihe matters, when tliey report 
that the church was in disorder— no wonder' 
that s-he withdrew her fellowship from that 
Hunch when those to whom she says Ood 
gives revelations in person or by angels,, 
visions, or some miraculous way, reported 
that the church wis in disorder, it is well 
for the Association that she has such men 
as the evangelists to see to her business — 
meg to whom "God gives revelations in 
person Of by angels, visions, or some mir- 
aculous way. 

But alter all, the Association does too- 
much resemble Mystery, Babylon; for she 
keeps it a secret what the nature of the dis- 
order is that the Ararat church is in — 
what the name of the brother is that is ap- 
pointed to inform the Ararat church what 
are the terms on which she will become re- 
conciled to that church again: and also 
keeps those terms or condition a secret 
from other chinches — from the Associa- 
tions with whom she has correspondence, 
and from the wjrld. The Ararat church 



^183 rro secrets, and is sorry the Association 
has so many secrets: 

Tlie Ararat church, to be sure has exer- 
cised discipline. She. thinks a church with- 
out discipline is like a garden without any 
■enclosure ©r fence about it: that there is no 
use for a vi.-ilde church any longer than 
while gospel discipline is maintained. But 
the Associaiion goes for abolishing discip- 
line. She goes for nullifying the acts of 
the church and for constituting a new 
■church of such materials as her committee 
snay choose, or give letters to the exclu- 
ded members, although she says in her 
constitution that she is no higher ju- 
dicature than the churches, but that she is 
merely a council of advice. 

Now, brethren of other Associations, 
Slave you observed the Minutes of the 
Bethel Baptist Association? And lias it 
escaped your attention thai she has trans- 
cended, in her acts, the powers claimed by 
any Baptist Association! And do you yet 
maintain correspondence with hei? If so, 
»ie you not in some sort accessory to her 
wrongdoings? The receiver is accounted as 
bad as the thief. And if it is so in temporal 
things, it is much more so in spiritual. The 
Apostle John said, If there come any unto 
you and bring not this doctrine receive 
liim not into your house, neither bid him 
Cod speed: For he that hiddeth him (Jod j 
speed is partaker of his evil deeds. And I 
if the principle is correct with regard to 
doctiine, it surely ought not to he lost: 
eight of when questions regirding discip- 
line and church order are being d seussed. 
Whether the Ararat church he right or 
wrong, in exercising discipline, the Asso- 
ciation has passed her bounds or land- 
marks. Landmarks are of no use unless 
they .'■el bounds to claimants. And such pre- 
cedent as the Association has given may 
work injuriously in after ages. Custom es- 
tablishes a doetrine o.r practice wiih holy 
mother church: and bad precedents in 
church aff urs, have always been found of 
jnjuiious tendency. It is by little and 
little that the churches slide into trior. 
And if the course of the Bethel Associa- 
tion he winked at, we may say, Farewell 
to discipline. The most disorderly must 
.either escape censure, and the churches be, 
in some sort, partakers of their sins, or 
they will look up to the Association and 
the new light clergy for protection and en- 
couragement, and bid the churches defiance. 
For all discipline is rendered void and nu- 
gatory, if the principle is carried out, that 

is assumed by the Association, that she 
can reinstate excluded members, that she 
can re-constitute churches or give letters 
of dismission to excluded members, or mem- 
bers under censure or even members against 
whom charges have tabled. 

Now, brethren of sister Associations 
with whom the Bethel Association hold 
correspondence, seeing you must have seen 
such things in the Minutes of the Associa- 
tion (if you read her Minutes) how can you 
any longer maintain correspondence with 
her? Is she too great a body for 
you impliedly to express disapproba- 
tion of? Why the more injurious the 
effects of her had example. If she 
was a diminutive or very small body r , her 
acts would not be of injurious tendency. 
They would merely excite contempt. 
From saying, when a smaller body, that 
the office of an evangelist does not exist? 
she has come to s&y the office does exist — ■ 
that those that arc evangelists are author- 
ized to act independently of the control of 
any separate church; and has ordained a 
young brother to that office. From say- 
ing, we (the Association) are no higher 
judicature than the church — we are mere- 
ly a council of advice: the Association 
should always act as a mere council of ad- 
vice when she acts at all — all beyond is 
usurpa ion and ecclesiastical tyranny, com- 
porting only with popish councils, she has 
come to say to her committees, Go to this 
church, from whom we have withdrawn 
our fellowship, abolish and render as void 
as is in your power her proceedings — re- 
constitute her if you think proper to do so, 
take the excluded members and make a new 
church of them or give them letters of dis- 
mission from us, that they may join other 
churches where they may be exempt from 
that Old School tradition called ecclesiasti- 
cal discipline, and give unbridled sway to 
their passions and appetites. For what 
she decs is in effect saying all this. 
Her actions speak this much if she 
does not declare it in express language. 

We are sure, dear brethren, if you coun- 
tenance such proceedings as these all such 
i churches as go for maintaining Primitive 
' and apostolic order; should forbear all con- 
nection with you as associational bodies. 
And such as have connected themselves 
with you, if they care for spiritual tyran- 
; ny; and go for maintaining their original in- 
'• dependent or congregational form, should 
withdraw such connection. 1 his, you 
may suppose is taking high ground: but 



the gospel reqiresit. It is no trifling matter 
that is at stake. Nothing less than the free- 
dom and independence of the churches of 
Christ, are at stake, 

P?-dipecf Hidge, Jllnbama, 

Scpf. IS/A. 18-40. 

Dear brethren Editors: And all 

who love and know the truth: gracc,merey, 

And we would say to the individuals j and peace he multiplied 

and churches of the Old School principles 
that are connected with the Bethel Associa- 
tion, or with the Associations still maintain- 
ing correspondence with her, in (he words 
of our Lord and master, My people, come 
out of her, that ye be not partakers of her 
sins and that ye receive not of her plagues. 
We have, in the first place given you fair 
& literal quo'ations from the Baptist confes- 
sions of faith, the Baptist discipline, and 
Ihe Minutes of the Be*hel Baptist Associ- 
ation. And these are our premises from 
which we have drawn our consequents or 
conclusions. And we are sure our conclu- 
sions are legitimate. We do not wish to ex- 
cite a needless alarm, or blow the trumpet 
of alarm when no danger is near. We are 
sure that spiritual tyranny is impending 
over the churches: and the present state of 

Dear brethren, 1 have again taken my 
pen in hand, to write a few lines for the 
Primitive Baptist, & in my weak capacity 
I wish to offer a few of my thoughts on 
ihe plan of salvation', from the following 
scripture: As thou hast given him pow- 
er over all flesh, that he should give eternal 
life to as many as thou ha-t given him. John, 
17ih oh. and 2 v. These words, my dear 
brethren, dropped from the lips of the glo- 
rious Redeemer, at the time when he lifted 
up his eyes to heaven and said, Father, the 
hour is come: glorify thy Son, that thy 
Son also may glorify thee; as thou hast giv- 
en him power over all flesh, &c. Mere, 
dear brethren, is the divine personage of 
the Saviour fully developed, as being God 
and man: or as uniting his divinity with 
human nature; so as to possess power over 

ecclesiastical affairs should excite alarm, a'l flesh, and give eternal life to as many as 
And we are informed that the prudent J the Father gave to the Son in the coven- 
man foreseeth the evil and hideth himself; janl of redemption. 

but the simple pass on and are punished j Therefore, 1 shall next come to speak of 
Prov xxii. 3. xxvii. 12. j the nature & design of that covenant; which 

In deference to the feeling's of the young , is predicated upon the principle of eternal 
brother whom the Association has ordain- I love. Consequently, we have to look hack 
ed an evangelist, and his kindred and , to the fall of man when he became a viola- 

tor of the law o ; f God, which is infinite; and 
man being a finite creature of the earth, 
satan could commence operations upon the 
human mind; & being mutable, he stood in 
need of divine assistance to enable him to 

friends, we must say once for all, thai we 
account him of the Old School family./ 
But we hold Ihe principle of the Association 
no less dangerous on that account. if he 
from principle, will not ride rough- shod. 
over the necks of the churches, it is not I resist temptation, and ke'vp the law, but 
because the Association has not given |Ufi to himself he yields to the insinuations 
him the authority to do so, that is, declared i of the wicked one, who preached univer- 
that he has it. For after saying that the i sa-lism toour mother Eve in the garden, 
evangelist is authorized to preach and bap- | and caused her to believe a lie, by present- 
tize independently of the control of any ing n false hopo to her; telling her, she 
separate church, the Association says in i should not surely die, but be as gods, know- 
her Minutes, that the young brother was ing good and evil. Thus we see the wo- 
regularly set apart to that office. man being deceived was in the transgress- 

We are ofthe opinion !hat Colonel D. ion, and she gave to her husband and he 
is too much for usurping authority over did cat; and so ivc see it isevident that Ad- 
the churches, & that he ought to beexeom- I am was reduced io ihe necessity of forsa- 
municated and disowned by every Baptist j king his companion, or partake with her. 
church under heaven, and we hereby do- j And being bone of his bone, and flesh of 
elare our non-fellowship with him and his | his fl -sh, he was wiling to partake, rather 

than be separated from her. Hence the 
man was not deceived, but willingly par- 
took, yet not willfully j consequently, by 
divine permission man fi II or became a 
violator of the law of God, and all his 
posterity fell in him. As in Adam all die, 


We are, dear brethren, yours in go-pe 
bonds, signed in behalf of the church. 

Sincerity anl truth form the b.isi< of 
every yirtuc. 



Now, brethren, if our fore parents had 
not been tempted, they might have stood, 
hurt when tempted being creatural, we find 
they yielded to temptation: therefore, if 
I was asked the puestion, — why Adam did 
not stand, 1 should say the reason was lie 
could not stand; for if man had have 
stood, the purpose of God jin the plan of 
salvation would have bean disappointed; 
for we are told in the sacred volume, he 
created man for a purpose of his own glory, 
and that he works alj things after the coun- 
sel of his own will. Therefore, if God 
knew he would fall, and he provided a Sa- 
viour for the preservation of mankind, and 
for the salvation of the church, it remains 
(hat he unavoidably fell. Hence we are 
brought to view the beauty and excellence, 
of the plan of salvation by grace; and that 
the glorious Redeemer, should possess pow- 
er over all flesh, that notwithstanding the 
fallen & helpless situation of man, the plan 
of divine grace saves the church; so that 
when man fell, the church (or elect) was 
paitght upon that foundation that the Lord 
had laid in Zion, so that the wheat and 
lares could now grow together; for Jesus 
has power ever all flesh, that he should give 
eternal life to as many as the Father hath 
given him. 

Brethren, the church was given to Jesus 
Christ in the covenant of grace, and Jesus 
Christ became her surety; consequently, 
the law looks to Jesus and receives a satis- 
faction in him; therefore Jesus says, all 
that the Father giveih me, shall come to 
me: and again, my sheep here my voice, 
and I know them, and the} - follow me, and 
I give unto them eternal life and they shall 
never perish. . Then it remains evident, 
that Jesus lived up to the requisitions of the 
law, died for his people, bore their sins in 
his own body upon the tree of the cross. 
and that he arose from the dead, and as- 
cended on high even into heaven itself; now 
to appear in the presence of God for us, 
and as our great "high priest, pleads the 
nieritof hisatoning sacrifice; while he sends 
the holy spirit down to make an application 
of his blood, and give eternal life to as ma- 
ny as the Father hath given him; for 
thine they were and thou gavest them me. 
For the life was manifested, and we have 
seen it, and bear witness, and show unto 
you that eternal life which was with the 
Father, and was manifested unto us. 1st 
John 1st ch. and 2 verse. 

Now, brethren, we discover the words 
under consideration, embraces all those that 

were given to Christ in the covenant of 
grace; and inasmuch as a covenant of grace 
is denied by so many now-a-days, I 
will adduce a few scripture proofs: for 
behold, I have made a covenant with my 
chosen. Psalm, S9lh and 3rd. Read al- 
so Isaiah, 42 ch. and I v. Zech. 6th and 
13th. Malachi, 3rd and 1st. Even the 
messenger of the covenant. 2 Samuel, 23rd 
and 5th. Yet he hath made with me an 
everlasting covenant, ordered in all 
things and sure. And inasmuch as the 
holy spirit bare witness, and sanctioned the 
covenant agreement between the Father 
and the Son; it is his office to make man- 
ifest that eternal life; by quickening to life 
the dead faculties of the mind, brings 
them to a discovery of their condition; 
translates them from the powers of darkness 
into the kingdom of God's dear Son adopts 
them into the family of heaven, and seals 
them unto the day of redemption. Hence 
they are said to he new creatures, created 
in Christ Jesus unto good works, which 
God hath before ordained, that we 
should walk in them. Thus it is that the 
holy spirit brings the appointed heirs of 
grace, to the knowledge of the truth; and 
'this is life eternal, that they might know 
| thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ 
J whom thou hast sent. 

Then, brethren, if ye be Christ's ye are 

j Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the 

•piomise; and Jesus who is the life of his 

people, says, because I live ye shall live also. 

Then, brethren, this is a life that the devil, 

j nor none of his emissaries can destroy, for 

.those who are brought to know Christ, and 

J the power of his resurrection, and the fel-. 

lowship of his sufferings, shall reign with 

Christ eternally; for he hath power over 

jail flesh, lhat he should give eternal life to 

las many as the Father hath given him. 

No more at present, hut as ever yours in 

christian love. WILLIAM THOMAS. 


Coving I on county, Alabama, 
January 25///, 1840. 
Dkap. bsethren Editors: I now for 
the first time take my pen in hand to let 
you hear from one more advocate of your 
paper, the Primitive Baptist, 1 have just 
received two Nos. & am well pleased with 
the manner and style thereof, and expect 
to continue to take it, for it highly gratifies 
me to hear so many able pens speak the 
same thing in defence of the gospel at such 


a time as this, when there are as many 
false teachers and money hunters as there 
were of Baal's prophets in the claj s of A- 
hab, king of Israel, when Elijah had to 
contend with ihe multitude. But God 
was with Elijah, and if we of Ihe Old 
School, though few in number when com- 
pared with those compassers of sea and 
land, who have a form of godliness and in 
their works deny the power. I say we 
of i lie Old School may siy with Paul, Rom! 
8 c. 31 v. if God be for us, who can be 
against us? And v. 33. who shall lay 
anything to the charge of God's elect, &c. 
These are the few brethren that enter in 
af the strait gate, and these are they that 
our blessed Saviour tells in Mat. 7c. 15 v. to 
beware — of (false prophets) which come to 
you in sheep's clothing, inwardly they are 
ravening wolves. 

But the churches in this vicinity have a- 
bundant reason to lie thankful to Israel's 
God, for the peace and harmony they enjoy 7 , 
and the oneness of opinion as respects the 
nianisms of the day. For God has pleased 
jn his goodness to cast the lot of some sons 
of thunder amongst us, who are watchmen 
sure enough, viz: Elders, Tlios. Warll, M. 
Burt, &c. who at every yell of those 
wolves above named, have spared no. pains 
in using every means to defeat them in their 
purpose among the flock. And for my own 
part, 1 think that poison has the greatest 
effect among wolves of any method yet 
tried; for those that once were frequently 
heard yelling amongst us, are heard no 
more. And the word of truth is the strong- 
est poison, and has the most poweiful effect 
of any yet known. And I perceive of late 
that the Primitive Baptist, is a good bait to 
place this poison in, for it has such an ex- 
tensive spread that there are getting to be 
hut a few wolf trails but what are baited 
in some degree. 

And now, my brethren, as you have 
perceived from my observations above, 
that I am a backwoods hunter, and better 
skilled in the forest among the vermin, 
than in communications to you for the 


/f Christ. And so soon as I fix my bait, which 
you vvill find in poetry below, I shall 

come to a close and give place to some abler 
pens to instruct you. 

So, brethren, look forward to that day 
when ihe great shepherd of the sheep shall 
descend and every eye shall see him; 
when the king upon his throne will be 
brought on a level with the beggar, at his 
footstool, Si all have to give an account for 
the deeds don-; in the body. And then the 
wise virgin will be read v, and go in to the 
marriage, and tlie door will be s\ut; yea, 
shut from all trouble, trial, temptation, af- 
fliction, persecution, paiii and sorrow. Our 
communications will then he atanend, and 
we all shall enjoy a happy eternity, where 
ihe wicked cease from troubling, and the 
weary are at rest. 

I now close, by supplicating the God of 

all <n'ace to overwork 

bv the influence 

of his holy spirit, to vvill and to do that, 
that is well pleasing in his sight, and save 
us in his kingdom, is the prayer of your 
unworthy servant, lor Christ's sake. Yours 
in the bonds of Christian, love. 


I have a subject on my mind,. 

To sing about I feel inclined; 

That you may open all your eyes. 

To see intrusion in dtsgniseV, 

The. institutions cf the day 

Have onward pressed, and wing'd their way} 

Till dy their flutt'ry and deceit, 

Their great demands we cannot meeti 

The missionary cause they plead. 
And tell of more, then heathens nred; 
But if your money you'll throw in, 
Their souls to Christ we're sure to win. 

And now to prove our great intent, 
And that your money's not misspent; 
We have a missionary board, 
That flourishes like Jonah's gourd. 

We all are safe by management, 

Of directors and president; 

This cause is spreading far and wide, 

Like water in a swelling tide. 

To you we look fur this supply, 

And speculation we deny; 

Our board is fully organised, 

And no design is kept disguised, 

But now I want the church to look, 

An. I well peruse the holy hook; 
And see where holy met) of old 

press, by way of apology I say- lo you. that 
1 have been raised on the fronttersof Alaba- 
ma, a poor orphan boy, without father or j These present times have long foretold 

married youii'' ! We see the apostles almost all, 
(",, ' A Peter, John, a .Judo and Paul; 
i As in the ihird of Timoihy 

mother, sister or brother, 

and now at the age of 34 years have a w 

and nine children to work hard f^v the > 

I Against false teachers they do cry. 

. . , ..... /wainsi laisu icacurr.s iney uopry. 

support ol. So, my brethren in tribulation, „.,,..' 

• • ■• ., i- . ,• r .' i! Thev speak of pen s am iryuiT tunes 

it is from the solicitation oi others as well i n - .' . . ' ,. •', K . 
,.,. .. , , i Lrou"ht in bv men <t corrupt minds; 

as some sensation ol 
my unwoiihy pen topaj 

ing, 111 a I 1 have put 

ir in 'he cause of 

A form of godlim 
But in their \yor] 

liny Uy 
ijs power denj'i 



And of these sort are tliry that creep, 
In houses where the silly sleep; 
And by their skill they captive lead, 
Cut of such teachers we've no needi 

They teach for moreyand applause, 
And sorely wound I lie Christian cause; 
They'll dress and make a genteel show, 
Hut slill a hedging ihey will go. 
They'll bpg the poor and needy too, 
And ilien black friends they'll turn to you; 
And if you'll give a little mite 
They'll answer you have now done right. 

And when they go to meet the flock, 
They of ihe gospel make a mock; 
Their tongues they'll use as glib as grease 
That they may get the belter fleece. 
Their mission e'ause they're sure to plead, 
But never care a sheep !o feed; 
They'll call aloud and torge their tears, 
Put always hide their money shears 1 

And now my song I'll have to close, 
But half their errors aint exposed^ 
I caution all in Christian ties, 
Lest they of you make merchandize 
By faith and prayer be on your watch, 
And try the word of God to search; 
That you in time may guided be, 
Aad saved at last eternally. 

His Composurei 





Written for the consideration of deists, 
trinitarians, and unitarians^ 
By Joshua Lawrence. 
Jesus, my God, while here on earth 
Since clothed with human flesh, 
Was to the Jews a -Mumbling block, 
At him wise Greeks did mock. 

Jesus, I hope that thou art mine 
Then let thy beauty shine; 
J t 3 all the lines I write below 
Let me thy glory sliovyi 

Now Christ has power to raise up saints 
Of Adam's fallen race, 
To pardon all their numerous sins 
And keep their spirits chastei 

For Christ was God, and he is God, 
Though slain he was as man; 
Jf ut power divine did raise him up 
And now he lives to reign. 

Although he's God, he's also man, 
He is the virgin's son; 
A mystery this that none can scan 
Till grace shall make it plain. 

But Christ is God, and God is light, 
And 1 i jj h t can make you see, 
That Christ is God and still is man 
The unit and the three. 

For he who raised the dead to life, 
And made the blind to see, 
Can change our darkness into light, 
And clear this mystery. 

Now Jesus is almighty God, 
And quickens whom lie will; 
And though in sin we all lie dead; 
He gives us life again. 

Y r et though he's God he's also man, 
And died iipjin the tree; 
He is the blessed virgin's son 
Ano whispers peace to me. 

Tis from this peftoe my comforts flow, 
For in this world i've none; 
For Jesus is my comforter, 
The holy three and one. 

Vouchsafe thy grace to nv, my God, 
To help my comforts on; 
To know thy blessed will on earth 
And let thy will be done. 

Jesus, Almighty God of power, 
Help in death's awful hour; 
1 crave it at thy blessed hand, 
The monster's sting to stand. 

When from its cage my spirit's free, 
Oh help it on to thee; 
In thy blessed image for to shine 
Eternal and divine. 

Thy brightest glory to behold, 
Which here can ne'er he told; 
And join in praise to Father, Son, 
And Spirit, three yet one, 


Strabane, Lttnoir county, N. C\ ? 
January l.s/,'l8H. S 
Dkar BrtETiir.EN: Through the goodness of 
God I am permitted to see the beginning of ano- 
ther year, notwithstanding the various scenes of 
the past. And I must now inform' you that I 
must decline the agency of your paper — not that I 
have ought against it, no, but contrary wise — I 
wish it all the success that honest professors can 
in justice to themselves give, because I conceive 
it to be a scourge to vain professors, and to serve 
as a glass through which they may take a view of 
themselves; and a let to the progress of anti.- 
christ, notwithstanding he seems at present to 
have the ascendancy, through the various nefari- 
ous ways in which he makes his appearance to 
the sons and daughters of Adam, viz: in all the 
schemes of the day, falsely called benevolent; 
and which they to shun the cross, willingly re- 
ceive as the, religion of Christ, supposing that 
their bountiful acts to the priests will make them 
a:ceptable in the last day, being th&s taught by 
them. But what will religion likeuhis avail in 
the above named day 1 ? — But I am preparing la 
move to the. west, and should it be the will of 
God that I get settled there, I expect again to be ^ 



subscriber for your paper and to let ynu bear from 
me again. ] close by subscribing myself yours 
in bonds of love, ALFRED ELLIS, 


Cashville, Smith Carolina. £ 
January 10//i, 184 1. \ 
Beloved Editohs: I have one request 
of my friends the Primitive Brpirsts, thai 
is (his: I want some of you to take Jonah 
nnd show tlie difference hetwecn God's 
missionaries and the devil's missionaries; 
I once thought there was no such thing as 
a missionary, hut 1 have got to helieve 
there is, and has been ever since the fall of 
Adam. I as much believe that tlvy both 
have missionaries, as I Relieve 1 hoy bot'h 
have children. I want some of you to 
write about t he unjusl sic vnrds and show 
the difference between thorn in old times 
&nd these times. You know in old times 
they were ashamed to beg, not so now. 
Oh no, 1 hey can go round corn piles at 
fhuckings and beg the people for their 
money; the) - say Ihey want it lor God. all 
a lie, they want it for themselves to uphold 
them in iheir luziness. If they would pull 
off the sheep skin and lay down hypocrisy 
and come out plain and sny, I want you to 
give me some money — what for? why, I 
am loo lnzy to work for it, and I am proud 

precious blood; and he redeems them with* 
out money and without price. 

1 will quit, I h:ive wrote more than I 
expected to when I begun; but when I 
smarted, my mind started, and 1 thought I 
would catch up with it; but. I believe I 
might have went on till day, and not have 
got up with it. So no more at present, 
but remain your friend, &c. 



Jacks Creek, Henderson cty* Tcnn- 1 
Dec 20///, 1840. ^ 

Hi: loved erkturkn Editors: 1 wish 
to call your attention to a lengthy letter in 
the 5th vol. No. 23. of i he Primitive 
Baptist, written by Mr. Thomas Paxton, 
on the doctrine of the two seeds, I am a- 
ware, brethren, that it is contrary to the 
rules of the 1'. B. to publish letters of con? 
tention between those who call themselves 
Old School Baptists ; but, brethren, while we 
close one door against the thief, let us not 
keep anqtheropen to let ihe deadly assassin 
in. Fur me to follow the reveiend gen- 
tleman through all his windings and 
t wistings would be too much for the lim- 
its of this sheet, and so I shall only notice 
a few thing-;. May I not say as our Lord 
and master said to some of old, this man 

err-, not knowing the scriptures nor the 
and 1 warn properly likcolher people, and j power of God. This 1 think I shall prove 
1 want to be one of ihe fin< si kind of gen- , from Mr. P's own words, before I close 
tlemen, and 1 know all this can't be wiih- t ihis letter. And I would remark here, bre- 
out money. If ihey could get any out of ihren, tho' it is against your rules to pub- 
meat all, they could get il quicker on Hsh contentious 1< tiers belwt en brethren of 
plan than the plan they are now on; for I the Old School Baptists, yrt as Mr. P. is 
hatea by pocrite any way yon can fix him. | excluded from the church and 1 have held 
Not cone and sny, I want it for Cod. I { a letter eight years I brought fro'rin Virginia, 
wish some of Ihem would tell me how Gnd and still hold it on account of the two seed 
got so far behindhand, thbthe had to send I on the one hand, and the free will on the 
out people to beg money for him when he [other, that this may not be an objection, 
says, the earth Is his and the fullness there- | Hut we will begin with Mr. Paxton. 
of. They say the)' want it to buy souls ! First, he says you cannot reconcile the 21 v. 
with for him. 1 reckon they think, as it of the Slh cliapt. of John with Mat 7lh 
is such hard times with the people, that and 7th. Perhaps those in .John sought 
it is so with God, and that he can't gel souls ! Chi ist and his church in Adam, w here the 

without money; and ihey pretend to have 
such an anxiety for Ihe salvation of sotilr, 
and are so afraid that some will be lost, 
particularly, the heathens, that ihey will 
turn out and beg money for him; when he 
has told them ihey were not bought wiih 
corruptible things, as silver and gold; hul 
they are bought — what with? with money? 
No, sir — what I hen? why, with a price. 
What price? why, the price of Christ's 

' church of Jesus Christ never was; for his 
church is and always was a spiritual 
church, ever since it was a church; and 
Paul said, the firs! man Adam was na-. 
lural and not spiritual. 1st Cor. 15 and 
46. and also said lie was of the earth, 
earthy. But in Mat. he, Je-us, was speak- 
in" - to his spiritual subjects of his kingdom, 
those that he had delivered from the p®w- 
cr of darkness or natuic, and translated in,- 



to his kingdom; those ho lolls to seek (he 
things that belong to his kingdom. 

In the noNt place, I wont to say some- 
thing for Nicodemus, who Mr. P. phices 
on the black list; hut I think the .leiyish 
ruler comes to Christ like many a seeking 
sin-sick soul does to learn of him; for Cod 
wasinChiist reconciling the world in'o 
himself, and perhaps he drew Nicodemus If) 
Christ; hut it appears thatGod could not rec- 
oncile Mr. P. to his sovereign discriminating 
acts; but 3 or 4 pages of Daniel Parker's 
writings could reconcile him to that he haUi 
not a I bus faith the Lord for, to vvit.t wogone- 
ra'ionsof men in a natural state. Mr. P. says, 
the purpose of God according to election 
will »tand; so say I, but not if God saves all 
that he created in Adam; because (hen there 
would be no election, for 1 thought an elec- 
tion was a choice out of many ; but I am 
not a grammarian as Mr P. is. He then 
asks, if this scod began with Abraham? I 
say no. What is this feed, &c ? Christ. 
What is Christ? God manifested in the 
flesh. Yes, and the wisdom and power of 
God. What is the promise? I sav, Je- 
sus is the promised Son and promised seed, 

Mr. P. again says, if he knew how an}' 
child's soul is transmitted from the father, 
he thinks he could tell how these became 
the devil's children. I c m't tell him, unless 
it is by ordinary generation. Hut if my 
memory serves me right, Mr. P. say«, in 
vol. 4th, No. 14, that the act of disobedi- 
ence begat them; and also s;i\ s, the oth- 
ers were in Christ before the foundation of 
the world. Hut P;iul speaks of some who 
were in Christ before he was. Rom. the 
16th & 7th. Mr. P. in the next place pro- 
mises to tell how the devil's children par- 
look of flesh and blood, but I think he i'ails 
altogether; and says lie is sorry his brother 
Parker ever touch' d the subject, & says it 
is that the Holy Ghost forbids. 1 say, a 
good confession. Mr. P. then says that 
Christ is as much identified with the 
church, as the church ever was with 
Adam. Can Mr P. show from the 
scriptures, that the church and Adam 
ever was identified^ Hut Christ, and his 
church are one. 

In the next place, Mr. P. comes to 
make his application by saving or promis- 
ing to prove, that the devil's children nev- 
er fell in Adam, and says in substance, that 
if they did, thai the universalian doctrine 
is right. The next thing I shall notice is, 
the multiplication of Eve's conception, and i 

will only ask, which was the greatest, the. 
greatly multiply ing of Eve, or the multip'y* 
ing ol Abraham exceedingly. And now, 
as Mr. P. has got out of the scriptures into 
the Apocrypha, I shall take no further notice 
of him until he gels hack. Well, be comes 
back and make a glorious acknowledg- 
ment, rather than rob his brother Parker of 
the glory of reeoncilim* him to God's 
arbitrary choice, and says, it was enough for 
hi m. 

Now, brethren, the limits of my sh6ct 
forbid my following this man any further, 
in con'radicting and blaspheming against 
the Holy Ghost; but 1 will invite your par- 
ticular attention lo his two letters, 1st vol. 
No. 14, & vol 5th, No 23. Now, brethren, 
let ns try your experience and see how it 
will. agree with Mr. Pax'on's. When you 
was in your sins & at enmity with God and 
his electing grace, saying in your heart and 
soul that if this doctrine was the truth God 
was unjust, and that men ought to be killed 
for preaching such a wicked doctrine, let me 
ask you, how did you become reconciled 
to it? by reading D. Parker's or any 
other mail's writings? 1 know you will 
say, no. Did you believe there was a more 
wicked race out of hell than you was of? I 
say, I know you will say, no. Can you find 
in the lids of the Hible any ihing to justi- 
fy such a though'? I say, no. Well how 
did your enmity against God and his elect- 
ing grace become slain? Did you not come 
io see and fee), that if God saved all the 
world besides and s°nt yon to hell he would 
be ju-t? I know you will say, yes; and as 
Paul said, when the commandment came 
sin revived and I died. Yes, brethren, you 
became dead to all your enmity against 
God and his electing according to his eter- 
nal purpose in Christ; and when God man- 
ifested to you the plan of redemption thro' 
Christ, you then said it was enough. Then 
it was you gol a good hope through grace; 
than you was enabled to glorify your Fath- 
er which is in heaven. How did he be- 
come your Father? I say, by your being 
born of his spirit, and by that spirit adopt- 
ed in the family of heaven, and made to 
cry, Abba, Father. This, brethren, was glo- 
ry enough for you in this world; and even 
now, when you are made to realize and 
feel the effects of these heavenly things, you 
are ready to say, it is enough, 

But perhaps, brethren, the Arminiansor 
missionaries have got you to believe since 
that, it was all a dream; and you have 
become cold and dull, and have in part lost 



right of your birthright, and are ready > 
to sell it as Esau did nnd arc gone af erlhiit 
noisy crowd and bustle that are blowing 
up a false zeal, crying peace, peace, when 
there is no peace. If this is ihe case, breth- 
ren', let mecafl upon you to return to your 
Father's house; come away fiom these moc- 
king Ishmaeli'es, that are mocking at what 
they cail Go !'s arbitrary choice. Return 
lo your first love, come home and stand 
fast in the liberty wherewith Christ hath 
made 3011 free, and he not entangled again 
in the yoke of bondage. Let us manifest 
our first love by loving one another. 0, 
that your hearts might be comforted, beina 
knit together in love unlo all riches of the 
full assurance of understanding to the ac- 
knowledgment of the mystery of God, and 
of the Father, and of Christ. So, brethren, 

Lord to whom shall we go, thmi hast the 
vords of eternal life, &c. Nov if any 
man hath not the spirit id' Christ he is none 
of his; hut if ye be Christ's then are ye A- 
biaham's seed, and heirs according to the 
promise. So. brethren; farewell. 



Day Ion, Marengo en. Ala. \ 
Nov. 3rd, 1S40. \ 
Deak Brethren: U has again become 
my duty as agent to write for myself and 
others whose names are inserted below. 
Deat brethren, I see so many able writers 
it makes me use lh« language of one of old 
and say, I cannot write (or speak) for 1 am 

a child. Hut. 1 will endeavor to make a 
let us earnestly contend for the faith once few remarks on the word of God. Give 

delivered to the saints, and have no fellow- 
ship witli these unfruitful woiks of dark- 
ness, hut rather reprove them. 

Now, brethren, I want to call Mr. P.'s 

attention to some who claimed to he A bra- j 
lum's reed in ancient times. The first 1 
shall notice, Luke 4th, beginning the lb v. 
Here Abraham's promised seed (Jews) in 
speaking of God s discriminating acts, A- 
braham's actual seed got offended at God's 
choice, and tried tobreak Je-us's neck. The 
next I shall notice is, John 3d and 6th. 

them, 1 pray Ihee, a talent of silver, and 
two changes of garments. 

Now, deir brethren, we are first to no- 
lice ivho il was that asked for this gift, 
who he a-keu 1 il for, and what he received 
for asking for the n,ift. We d it cover by 
reading the word of God, that it. was Ge- 
hazi the servant of Eltsha that followed af- 
ter Naaman and said, my master hath sent 
me, saying beho'd, even now there be come 
to me from Mount Ephraim two young 
nen of the sons of the prophets: give 

Mere you see a man mint be born of them, 1 pray the?, a talent of silver, and 
the spirit of God, before he on be Abra- j l wo changes of garments. Now we dis- 
hain's seed according to the promise. The] cover that he was to receive the leprosy of 
next we will notice is, John, 5tll and 1G I Naaman, which shall cleave unto tbee and 
Here you see these go >d children of Abra- j thy seed for ever. 

ham's by nature wanted lo kill Jesos again. I Dear brethren, if 1 understand 1 li is* 
No doubl had their minds yet on the wo- 1 scripture right, 1 believe that Eiishi here 
man of Sarepta, and Naaman the Syrian. ! is a figure, of our Saviour, and Gehazi rep* 
Again, v. 21st: For as the Father raiseth up : resenting our present preachers*. We find 
the di ad and quickeneth them, even so the j that Gehazi followed alter Naaman and 
Son quickeneih whom he will. Rjad the said, give them, I pray thee, a talent of sil- 
25th verse also. j ver, and two changes of garments* I will 

Now as mv sheet is nearly full, 1 must j ariv the question, was it Elisha that sent 
come to a close by requesting Mr. Paxton Gehazi or not? 1 will answer in the posi- 
to read the 6ih of John through, and see' tive he did not, and on Ihe same ground 
how those who claimed to be ihe seed of! we find our present preachers running af- 

Abraham got offended with Jesus, and 
walked no more with him, because of 
his hard saying*; arbitrary choice, as Mr. 
P, would h.ive called it, bad it not been 
for Daniel Parker. And, brethren, I wani 
you to notice in this chapter ihe language 
of those who had been born of the spirit ol 
God, and having Christ's spirit of promise 
the good seed in them, the sp'nil of faith 
thai all the promises of the gospel is to the 
free born sons of Zion. Their language is, 

ter the world, and saying, my master hath 
sent me, saying, give them I pray thee, thy 
money and if you have not the change, put 
thy ear rings, thy finger ring*, or thy breast 
pins in pawn until yea can get the change. 
We discover he did not ask it for himself, 
but fur the young men from Mount Semi- 
nary. Well, Gehazi look the gift that ho 
had asked for, for the young men and bes- 
towed it in the house. And it never was 
given to them that it was asked for. And 



t believe it is the very Mmc now with our 
bcnging preachers, for they have the s. inn 
authority to he^ thai Gehazi had, :md i In 
word of God tell us that money is the root 
of all evil. 

Asjriin, we discover that Adrian Paw the 
Babylonish garment, and two hundred she- 
kels of silver-, and a wedge of gold of fifty 
shekels weight j then 1 coveted them and 
look them. 1 could point out many such 
pasages, but will only stale, that 1 believe 
that they are travelling from Jerusalem to 
Jericho, which Jericho is noted for its 
wickedness. So I believe they are travel- 
ling the downwind road. 

Now the word of God tells u«, that in 
Ihe mouih of two or three witnesses ever)' 
word may be established. Dear brethren, 
God changes not, therefore ye sons of Ja- 
cob are not consumed. And again we are 
paved, because God first loved us the 
church and made his Son to be. sin for us, 
before we the elm-i ch know sin. Yesj all 
ihe church was created in Christ Jesus un 
lo good works, before the foundation of 
the world. Therefore I must close by say- 
ing, may the Lord remove the mist of 
darkness from our eyes, and error from our 
hearts, and make us and keep us such crea- 
tures as he would have us to be, is the 
prayer of your broiher in ti ibulaiion. 

James s. morgan. 


Pine Wood, Sevier county, Arkansas, ~) 
January 3-1, 184 L. } 
Dear brethren in the Gospel: I ac- 
cept the present opportunity to inform you, 
lh;it a few week past a few numbers of the 
Primitive Baptist found their way to this 
section of the world. They have met 
such reception (bat a company of subscribers 
of six members were obtained in seven 

We hope that our petition may reach 
you, and be accepted, as we hope they 
will be of much benefit to the church of 
Christ, as we think the seeds of discord 
are sown in the church. We will conclude 
with our most sincere prayers for the 
welfare and prosperity of Z'.on. 



Houston, Chickasaw county, Miss. \ 
December 1st, 1S-10. 5 
Deak brethren Editors: 1 have 

been a reader of the Primitive twelve 
months, and am well pleased with its con- 
lent-'. I have lived in lirs county twelve 
months, and ten days past I beard the first 
Primitive Baptist preach that 1 have heard 
in this Stale; therefore you may know, \ our piper is not much beloved in this 
county. As for my part, 1 am well plea- 
sed wiih it. I think when I read it^ pa- 
ges, thai 1 can witness with my br.Mhren 
the truths of the gospel, for it is as rivers 
of water, or as the shadow of a great rock 
in a weary land, Ipmy poor soul. 

My deal- old brethren'} go on in the 
strength of the Lord. Sow thy seed in Ihe 
morning, and withhold not thy hand in the 
evening; cry aloud, and spare not: show 
unto Israel her transgressions, and break 
the bread ol life to the dear children of 
God; bind up the broken-hearted, confirm 
the strong, support the weak, and give to 
each a portion in doc season, that they may 
grow and thrive thereby. Dear brethren, 
i desire all your prayers. So no-more. 


Shady Grove, Carroll county, Tenn. } 
February Slh, 1S41. \ 
Dr.AR Brethrkn in Christ: I should 
not h ue troubled you with my scribble, 
but it is time I should have made my re- 
mittance; for our little winged messenger, 
wafts the good news of gospel grace from 
different climes to us ; It is as reviving to 
the inner man, as cold water is lo a thirsty 
soul; though an unwelcome messenger 
lo sumej yet highly esteemed by true be- 

I will give you a short sketch of the 
state of religion in Ibis vicinity. The 
Primitive Baptists are at peace one with 
another, but it appears lo be a cold and 
wfntery night. It is in consequence of the 
many perversions of divine truth, and the 
foul aspersions of the would-be priests to 
those that are contending for tire faith of 
God's elect. They, the missionaries, have 
almostslruck themselves a deathblow in 
lids vicinity of late, by their new move- 
ments; swindling and wishing to have the 
word of God modified or newly translated, 
and many things too numerous to be in- 
serted. Those that are neutral, or on 
middle ground, have 1 think seen the clo- 
ven foot, and if heirs of the kingdom will 
obey the voice of inspiration, come out 
from amongst them. A word to those who 



claim the middle ground. You cannot 
serve God an<l mammon. I cannot believe 
there is an intermediate space for God's peo- 
ple to rest. 

Dear brethren, we hear a people claim- 
ing to be Baptists say, they cannot preach 
without money, and that the heathen are 
perishing for the lack of money to enable 
t'hem td go, S'c. 0, brethren, is this the 
voice of inspiration? 1 have not so learn- 
ed Christ. We learn that there is no crea- 
ture literally speaking, that is not mani- 
fest in the sight of God; not even a spar- 
row, a worm, a hair of the head, that is not 
manifest in God's sight, much less hispeo- 
plcj his ransomed people he redeemed 
from amongst men — whose names are writ- 
ten in the Lamb's bock of life, gra- 
ven on the palms of his hands, glowing on 
the breast-plate of the high priest, who ev- 
er liveth to mike intercession for them; 
Hence it is written, the foundation of God 
standeth sure, having this seal, the Lord 
knoweth them that ate hi-". The promise 
is to you and to your children, and to all 
that are afar off, even as many as the Lord 
our God shall call. And saith Jesus, 1 
know my sheep and am known of mine; 
they hear my voice, and they follow me, 
and a stranger's voice they will not lollovv, 
because they know not the voice of a stran- 

Brethren, so many lo here's, and lo 
there's, and strange voices is the cause of so 
much confusion in the camps of Israel. 
In harmony with a confirmation of the 
foregoing, we hear Jesus saying, no man 
can come to me except the Father which 
hath sent me draw him, and I will raise 
him up at the last day; all that the Father 
hath given me shall come unto me, and 
whoso comet h unto me I will in no wise 
east out. What do we hear Jesus saying 
in another place, respecting the unbe- 
liever? Ye believe not, because ye are not 
of my sheep: — 1 pray not for the world, 
but for those given me out of the world. — 
In illustration of this subject, we pass on 
to the lost sheep and piece of silver. Jesus, 
the great shepherd and bishop of souls, 
knows his slice]); he goes after and funis 
every one of them in the wilderness of this 
world, in nature's darkness, and he lays 
ihem on his shoulder and carries them to 
the fold of his grace on i arth, and prepares 
ihem for the fold of his glory in the world 
to come. The sheep do not seek, do not 
find, do not come to him; but he (Christ) 
goes after them, &c. 0, brethren, when 

We get home we are assured that our bod- 
ies shall be fashioned like unto bis glorious 
body; we shall see him as he is, be done 
with sorrow, the ransomed of the Lord 
shall return to Zion with songs, and ever- 
lasting joys on their heads; and sorrow and 
sighing shall fiee away. What more do his 
people want, to consummate their salvation, 
than wisdom, righteousness, sanCtilication 
and redemption? Nothing) nothing can 
be added to it, and blessed be God, iioihii g 
can be taken aW.-.y. 1 must end. May 
God of his grace prosper his Zion, and lead 
her out of Worse than Egyptian darkness, 
if consistent to his will, is my prayer for 
Christ's sake. Amen. Yours in Chris- 
tian bonds. JOHN SC.iLLOIiN. 


Shllo, Troup county, Ga. 
Dec. 8//t, 1840. 

Dkar Brethren in the Lord: I 
once more of necessity take my pen in 
hand to address you in some manner, not 
only sending to the printer, Mr. Howard, 
his reward for printing, but also to give 
you to understand that 1 am yet in the 
land and amongst the living, enjoying toler- 
able health. And to the dear brethren who 
write for the Primitive, 1 would just let 
you know, if I know myself, that the doc- 
trine you generally advocate is ihe doctrine 
1 believe, if 1 believe any thing about that 
matter; the docuine of the eternal purpose 
ol'God, in the salvation of his church 
thro' the medium of a crucified Redeemer. 
And that church was given to Jesus Christ 
in eternity, virtually saved, and lhat the 
third person in the glorious trinity did en- 
gage in covenant l elation to bring to the 
senses of every member that compose that 
church a knowledge of these covenant 
blessings. And lhat in the right time he (the 
spirit of truth) will bring the capstone 
with shouts of grace, grace, unto it. 

And now, dear brethren, seeing God 
has been thus mindful of us, pour miser- 
able, guilty sinners, and has manifested to 
us the forgiveness of our sins through 
the blood ol Lhe everlasting covenant, live 
and love one another as Christians, honor- 
ing God iu ) our bodies and spirits which 
are his. 

And now, 0, ye church of the living 
God, mark well the signs of the times, and 
be on your watch; \uu luve long enjoyed 
(or some of you) liberty of conscience in 
a religious point of view; but alas, there 



ars to lie a storm arising, whieh threat- 
ens your religious liberties, and 1 icai, 
unless a covenant God humbles our pride, 
arid brings us ps a nation to our right mind, 
lhat il will burst forth on us with lury. 
God, give us grace td humble our pride, 
artd contend fur I he religion" of a covenant 
three in a one God: 

And how a word or two to you who are 
'engaged in the cause of despotism. Iiow 
Ion": wilt thou not cease to pervert the 
right way of the Lord? Have you got tired 
of seeing your fellow creatures enjoy lib- 
erty? Stop, do stop, and then let not your | Long \-eek Brdge. 'j'homas Bagley, SmithfiAd. 
frenzied z 'al dcs'.i'Oy the liberties of our | James II. Sasser, Waynesboro' . John, San- 
beloved country. Ceaso to send your pe- i d .'l Cnek ' L. B, Bennett, Healhville. Cor's 

"Not a novice, lest being lifted Up with 
pride, he fall into the condemnation of the 
devil/' Paul. 

Yours respectfully, 




North Carolina. — .1. Biggs, Sen. Williams/on. 
;i. M. G. :M >or.e, Germaulon. vV. w. Mizell, Ply- 
ncu,i.!l:. Charles Mason-, Rbxhoro'. Benj. Bynuin, 
b'jie g'li's Bridge. [[. A Vera, Averasboro'. J. II, 
KeneJay, Chulk Level. Burwell Temple, Raleigh. 
. w. McNeely, Leaksville. Win, H. Vann, 

titionsto your State legislatures 
porations and establishments of your mo- 
nied societies; reflect for one moment that 
you are propaga'ing your species in the 
year 1S40, and if you persist in your course, 
in 1900 no doubt the true church and prin- 
ciples of the Christian rerigion will be as 

incur- Ca n adayjJC««:e«staY/e. VVillinm Welch, Abbott's 
Creek, J. Lamb, Camden C. H. A . B. Bains, 
Jr. Stanhope. C. T. Sawyer, Powell's Point. 
Isaac Ti'lery, Lapland, Thomas Miller, Eliza- 
beth City. Harris YYilkersuii, West Point. Isaac 
Alderman, Moore's Creek, James Miller, Milton 
Park. David R. Canaday, French's Mills, L, P, 
Beardsley, Greenville-. Isaac Meekins, Columbia, 
.South Carolina.— lames Hembree, Sen. An- 

extinct amongst your posterity, as it was ; tCerson C. If. Charles Carter, Cambridge. B, 
in the tenth century. A word more: &b'\ Lawrence* Effingham. James Burns, Sen. Bold 

you all that favor llut system expect mat ! fP ritt &- y i . , ' ia,n i s - 1 Shd f' Rock A / Ul r / }' ev ' 1 
,, ,.,1 ■ l;.l , ,,, . „ ■ Lee, Blaclt.iu.lle. Andrew Westmoreland, Cash- 

all your sons Will occupy a high station in ... ' -n ,, •,, „.-, ,, , . v ? -, 

" ■? ■ j J a \vi\\e. Ri Hamilton, Aiken. Marshal McGraw, 

your establishment.-? Do you not tear, ^\ Brown's. John L. Simpson, Coohham, J, Gi 
least, that some of your offspring will b,e . Bowers, Hickory Hill, Win. Nef son, Camden, G, 
the subjects of persecution? ■fhinfc of their j Mathews* Mount Willing. Jacob B. Higgins, 
liberties, and do stop, before you cnuse 

them to be taken away; and Come back to 


Georgia. — William Moseley, Bear Creek. Al- 
ien Cleveland, McDonought John McKenney, For- 

the gospel standard and rally round that, i st/ n u Anthony UolWay, Lagrange. P.M. Cal- 

and then peace will flow like a river. 
And, brethren, love one another. May 

ho an, Knoxollle. R. Reese, fSntotiton. Thomas 
Amis and David w. Patman, Lexington. Joua- 

God grant that we may all be clothed and £ an ^ eeI ' / r ames "'flingsworth and Stenhea 
: ° . ., • , ■ . ,, r .- CastelioW, Macon. Charles P. Hansford, union 

in our right mind silling at the feet of a mL , ohu w> Turnetj : 6iuuani mL ' Josl , ua 

covenant Jesus. / Hi^MJON. | Bowdoin, Alairsville, Jas. M. Rocktnore* Ppatoie. 

Bellefoiilaine, Choctaw co Miss. ~) 
Jan ISl/i, 1841. 5 
Dear brethren Editors: 1 have re- 
ceived my papers since I subscribed for 
them, and have read them with pleasure. 

P. II. Edwards, Georgetown. Win. Trice, Tlion- 
aston. Ezra YlcCrary, Warrcnlon. Prior Lewis, 
Rodney. lohn Lassetter, Vernon. B.Pace, Van Wert. 
L. Peacock, Gassville, V. D.Whalley, Barnesville. 
Aiex. Garden and Thomas C. Trice, Mounl.Mome. 
EliasO. Hawthorn, Bainbridgt J. G. wintring- 
ham, Florence. Wrin. Mi Amos, GreenviWe, Ran- 

We have a little church planted at County : <lnl i ,h Arnold, Latimer's Store, T. J. Bazemore, 

ine, Choctaw county, I hope by our Lord, J 1 '"/ "' \V^ l0 J"}}r^ uI i\"- J "f on G , r , ier ' f " diun 

,' , • ' . . , J r ' i springs. Wm. Mcfcilvy, Altapulerus. rurnalvev, 

and we appear to have that love one for an- ! Mdledgtoille. Wm. Garrett, Tucker's Catin. Jesse 

other lhat I (kink Christians oughl to have; : Moore & John Hardie, Irwivtm. Leonard Pratt, 

but we are in a place where we are despi- ' Whilcsvillc. Edward Jones, Decatur. A. Hen- 

sed, but God grant, lhat we may bear 
persecution for his Son's sake, Jesus 
Christ. Yours in brotherly love. 


Eaton/on, Ga. Jan. \llh, IS 41. 
Dear Brethren Editors: 1 hope 
some one or more of the worthy editors of 
the Prim, will give their views, (in print) 
on the following passage of holy writ: 

don, Shi\o. A. G. Simmons, Hickory Grove, 
John Lawhon, Chenuba. John Herington, Wel- 
born's Mills, James P, Ellis, PineviWe, V. Hag- 
gard, Athens. H. Barrort,/ufi&so7ii A.M.Thompson, 
Fort. Valley, Josiah Gresham, iVhite Hall. Daniel 
0'i\ T eel, Fowllon. John Applewhite, Waynesboro', 
J.B. Morgan Hi. B,P,Ruuse, Friendship. Sam'l Wil- 
liams, Fair Play, John Wayne, Cain's, R.S.Hain- 
rick, Carrollton. DavidSmith,C«o/»S"/3/-i«iTi Allison 
Spear, Flat Shoals, Moses Daniel, Bowery, Moses 
II. Demnan, Marietta. James Bush, Blake\y, 
A. Burroughs, Moore'* '^ Roads, Samuel Hug- 



Asa Edwards, Houston, Richard Stephens, Sen'r. 
Tarversville, John Slroud, Kendall, James Scar- 
borough, Statcsbortugh. Jetliro Oates, Mm/- 
berry Grove, Robert R, Thompson, Scotlsville. 
Owen Smith, Troupville. Kindred Braswell, 
Duncansville. Edmund S, Ohambless, Stalling* 
Store. James w. Walker, Marlborough. Edmund 
Dumas, JotinstonviWe. David Rovvell, Jr. Groo- 
versville. Joel Oolley, Coring/on, Benjamin C. 
Burns, Vi\\a llicca, David Jones, Travellers Best. 
Wi I?. Muilens, Rossrillc, Willis S. Jarrell, 
Lumpkin. Thomas Hverriit, Bristol. 

Alabama. — L. B. Moseley, Vdftdwba. A. Kea- 
ton, B'jlmont. Benjamin Lloyd* Lafayette. Wi 
#. Carlisle, Fredonlu, Henry Dance, Daniel's 
Prairie. Wra. \t. Walker, Liberty Hill. Dan'! 
Gafford, Grcenvi'lc. Samuel .Moore, Snow Hill. 
John G. Walker, M. lion . li'y \\ iliiams, Ha 'ana. 
Jas. Daniel, Claiborne, Elias Daniel, ChurchHilt, 
John Bonds, Clinton, David Johnston, Leightdn, 
Adam MeCreary, Brooklyn. Josiah Jones. Jack- 
son. David Jacks, New Market. Sherrod w 
Harris, Vienna. John McQueen, Graves' Ferry, 
William Talley, Mount. Moriah, Graddy Her- 
ring, Clayton. G. w. Jeter, Pint Lata, Samuel 
C/Johnson^P/Msa?;/ Grove. Wm.Crutcher,//i<///.s- 
ville, V\ m ■ lii Cook and H'y Petty, Pickensville, 
Seaborn Hnmriek, Plan'ersville. James Si Mor- 
gan, Dayton. Wm. Hyde, Gainesville, Rufus 
Daniel, Jamesfon, Frederick Hi-nes, Gas/on, Z. 
Johns, Tiara, Eli McDonald, Painsci/le. Win. 
Powell, YoungsviUe. John Brown, IVacooca, Silas 
Monk, Horse Shoe Bend, It. Lackey, Scraper. 
James F. Watson, -'Ibbevilie. David Treadwell 
and R.w. Carlisle, Mount Hickory. Joseph H.Hol- 
loway, Wtzle Green. Jesse Lee, Farmers- 
ville. William Grubbs, Louiivitle. Henry Ad- 
ams, Mount Willing. Joel l\, Chambless, Lowc- 
vil/e. Elliot Thomas, WiHiamston. F. Pickett, 
China Grove, James Grumbles, Benton. John 
M. Pearson, DadeviWe. John D. Hoke, Jackson- 
ville, Elijah R. Berry, Cobb's Store, Willis 
Cox, So'ikcclialchie. Hay.acl Littlefield, Fen Isl- 
ands. John w. Pcllum, Franklin. Philip May, 
Belnwnt, A. !>• Cooper, JViWiaimton, John 
Harwell, Missouri. James K. Jacks, Eliton. 
Henry Milliard, BeWville. John A. Miller, James 
Mays and James McCreless, Ockfusliee. Dur- 
ham Kelly, Alexandria, Josiah M. Lauderdale, 
Jilhcns. William Thomas, Prospect Ridge. John 
Bishop, Jun'r. Crocket tsvi lie. James Gray, Cusc- 
tu. Thomas L. Roberts, MonmcviWe. James Hi 1- 
dretb, Pleasant Plains. William Devlin, Gainer's 
Store, E. M. Amos, Midway, J. E. Albritton, 
Geneva. Joseph Holloway, .Activity. 

Tennessee. — Michael liurkhalter, Chceksville, 
Aaron Compton, Somerville. Asa Newport, 
Meesville. James Manlden, Van Buren. Solo- 
mon Ruth, W'cstley. Wm. C room, Jackson. Sion 
Bass,Fhrce Forks, John w. Springer, SugarCreek. 
William Si Smith, Winchester. Thomas Hill, 
Sevierville. Thos. B. Yeates, Lynchburg. C.T. 
Echols, Mifflin. Aaron Tison, Medon. George 
Turner, Vv'averly. Aimer Steed, Mulberry, Henry 
Randolph, Snodysvil/c, Pleasant A. Witt, Cheek's 
J*i Roads. J i Cooper, Unionville. Michael Bran- 
son, Long Savannah. Jasc lit Holloway, Hazel 
Green, William Mclicn, U/d Town Creek, Ben- 
jamin w. Harget, C'.urry-villev Robert Gregory, 
Camuth's X Roads, John Scallorn, Shady Grove. 
gard, Davis's Mills. Evan Davis, Grape Spring, 

Mississippi. — Worsham Mann, tliiUifmi^t, Wil- 
liam Huddleston, Thomas/on. Nalhan Tims', 
Kosciusko, Jonathan D. Cain. IVaterford. Na- 
lhan Morris, Lexington. Charles Hodges, 
Cotton Gin Port. Bejamin E. Morris, Wheel- 
ing. Simpson Parks, Loch-hart's Store, Mark 
Prewett, .Aberdeen. William Ringo, Hamilton. 
James M. Wilcox, Louisville. Edtn'd Beeman 
and Thomas Hi Dixon, Macon. John Erwin, 
Linkhome, Herbert D. Buckham, Pontotoc, Wrt- 
liam Davis, Houston. Wm.ll Warren, Dekalb-. C. 
Nichols, Stump Bridge. Wootpn Hill, Cooksville. 
John Davidson, Carro/llon. Thomas Mathews, 
Black Hawk. A. Boilers, Fulton. J. R. Guid- 
ing, Bellefontuine, 

Florida, — James Alderman, China Hill. Da- 
vid Callaway, Cherry Lake. John F. Hagart, M<m- 
ticeUo. James Stokes, Milton, 

Louisiana. — Eli Headen, Marburyville. Thosv 
Paxton, Greensboro' . 

Missouri. — Joel Ferguson,. Packsott 

Arkansas. — John Hart, Pine Wood, 

Illinois. — Richard M. Newport, Grand View,- 
Thomas w. Martin, East Nelson. 

Indiana. — Peter Sahzman, New Harmony. 1- 
saac w. Denmnn, GaWutin, 

Ohio. — Joseph H. Flint, Trenton. John B-. 
Moses, German/on, 

Kentucky. — : Levi B. Hn-nt, Manchester. Wash- 
ington Watts, Co'-ncliusvii\e. Levi Lancaster, 
Canton. James Holloway, Fait Healing. Dem- 
cey Burgess, Salem, 

Virginia-, — Rudolph Timer, Berger's Store. John 
Clark, Fredericksburg. Wm. w. West, Dumfries^ 
William Burns, Halifax C, H, Jesse Lankford, 
Bowers*s, Elijah Hansbrough, Homcrville. Wil- 
son Davenport, White House, Arthur w. Eane.Sy 
Edgehiil, James B. Collins,-. Burnt Chintiteys. 

Pennsylvania. — Hezekiah West, South Hill. 
Joseph Hughes, Gum Tree. 

New York. — Gilbert Beehe, New Vernon. 
Massachusetts. — Janus Osbourn, Woburn,- 

Wm. R. Lor>^, 
Joseph Bynum, 
W. M. Stanlon, 
Moses Biker, 
James Bigs;s, 
Goodwin Evans, 
Bar nit Idol, 
VV. M. Amos, 
Charles W. [larri 
P. N. Drake, 
James Weed, 


Wm. Burns-, $[(y 
Jesse Johnson, 1 
Evan Davis, 5 

0. '1'. Echo's, 5 

Wm. S 1 . ■Smith, 3 
Ili-nry IvIcElroy, 4 
Man hew Yates, 3 
13. Tlrornion, 3 

John Palmer, 3 

Samp°on English, I 
James Stoke*, 5 

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Marlborough, Morgan ccitntj/, Ga. } 
November 16th, 1840, <> 

Dear brethren Editors: As I am 
Compelled as agent for ihis office to write 
for the continuance of six copies of your 
valuable paper, through the ensuing year, 
I am disposed to fill my sheet, and if you 
think proper you can publish it, if not, 
throw it by. 

And first f will say to my dear brethren 
who have written for the Primitive this 
year, I hope I feel thankful to God and to 
you, ni}' brethren, for the comfort, and I 
encouragement, received though your: 
valuable communications. And though I 
am old enough to be a man, 1 am yet a! 
child, and instead of growing larger I am ■ 
constantly getting less; so I despair of ever j 
being able to afford you the like comforts! 
I receive from you, but perhaps I may en- 
courage you a little in the good work. 
My dear old brother Tiliery, I love to 
hear 'your thundering cannon; I rejoice that j 
you are not afraid of the sneaks nor the ; 
j'ence-straddlers; I sympathise with yen in, 
your trials, as I have been threatened with ' 
a warrant once by the same family. Fight' 
on, my brother, their folly will soon be : 
manifest, as was the folly of the magicians 1 
that withstood Moses. The best way to ; 
defeat the fence-straddlers is, to burn up ' 
the fence as the old regulars have done! 
here two years ago; and now if they find 
any of them rallying again and see their 
toes sticking over the line and their heels 
on the other side, they are counted off as 
if they were a mile beyond the line, in- 
deed, my brother, they are the least ac- 

count of any of the human family, and 
neither side here has much more use for 
them than a Jew has for a pig; so you know 
the devil can make hut little use of them. 

My dear old brother Lawrence, tho' you 
are an old worn laborer, and love to sit in the 
shade while the boys work, yet you should 
not sit too long least your old hoe should 
rust; there is much use for it, the weeds are 
growing apsoe, and though your outward 
man perish, yet the inward man is renew- 
ed day by day. My dear brother Rorer, 
let not 1113? private letter to you deter j'oii 
one moment from roaring against the ene- 
mies of God's dear children. I long to 
hear your voice sounding once more 
through our columns. But, my dear 
brethren, 1 cannot name you all, I am so 
pleased with you all and with your com- 
munications, 1 wish you to write frequent- 
ly and freely, and I assureyou I will take 
a pleasure in standing at an humble dis- 
tance, rejoicing at your good success. Yet 
I hold myself ready, if 1 see a hope of do- 
ing any good, to cast in my mite also. 

1 wish to inform all my dear Old School 
brethren throughout these United States, 
that we have great cause to praise the Lord 
here; for since we have separated from the 
mission clan, peace and harmony abounds 
amongst us; which has not been surpassed 
in the recollection of the oldest Baptists in 
Georgia. And some of the churches have 
enjoyed refreshing; seasons. O that all 
the Lord's dear children would obey his' 
voice, Come on/ of her, my people. But 
while I have been so gratified with your 
writings, my clear brethren, my heart has 
often trembled as old Eii's for the ark of 
God, lest controversy should commence' 
in our paper: and especially since some of 
the dear brethren' have been writing on 
the usury question, as I kuow the views o\ 


primitive BArrrsT. 

brethren differ on that subject, & knowing 
of several cases of sei ious difficulties grow- 
ing out of if,& believing it always will have 
that effect if pressed. I therefore entreat 
my dear brethren not to agitate ir, and if 
different views on this or any other subject 
should he entertained 153/ any of I be clear 
brethren, let it pass, or else in a friendly 
and brotherly manner object by a private 
letter. This is the most scriptural course. 

I am credibly informed, that some of the 
seceding churches are on the verge of split- 
ting, as their eyes are opening; therefore 
the energies of the mission agents arc all 
called forth in plastering their eyes again. 
And some of them are going from house to 
house, exhorting and praying, for families 
and are by far the most righteous ant! zeal 
ous people I ever knew; but some times 
the families will not lay aside their domes- 
tic employments to attend their exhorta- 
tions and prayers, yet With all their right- 
eousness and Zeal they have so f^r lost the 
confidence of the people, tb it they prevail 
nothing by protracted meetings. 

1 take the liberty to say to my minister-' 
ing brethren in conclusion, preach the 
word. Truth is powerful and must pre- 
vail. God has called you, my dear breth- 
ren, to preach the gospel (mind) the gos-> 
pel. Then let your minds he directed to 
that alone, and you need not fear. The 
tottering, walls of Babylon must, yea, they 
shall fall, as certain as ever the wdls of 
Jericho fell before Israel. Then break the 
pitchers that the lamps may shine. Blow 
with the trumpet^ and cry, the sword of 
the Lord and of our spiritual Gideon, and 
all the host shall be soon tlijcom fitted. The 
glorious day I trust, is not far distant, 
when Zion shall arise and shine; for her 
light shail be come and the glory of the Lord 
be risen upon her. 1 must close. So fare- 
well, my dear brethren, for the present. 


Prospect Riilge, Pikd county, Ata. } 

Jan. '\lh, is M. 5 
DearBretrhen: 1 think the Primitive 
is doing good in this part of the Lord's 
Vineyard, and as I earnestly wish the 
prosperity of Zion, I send you the Circit- 
iar Letter of the Conecuh Uiver Baptist As- 
sociation, which was prepared by our be- 
loved brother Thomas Wall, which 1 hope 
you will publish in the Primitive. The 
Conecuh Association^ which convened in 

Oct. last was conducted with much h il t tet t h 
ny and brotherly love, and the gospel was 
preached in its purity with much zeal and 
ability; arid may the Lord bless and sanC-* 
tify the same, is my prayer for Christ's 
sjke. As ever, yours affectionately; 



Of tin Conecuh River Association. 
To the ministers ami fifrcs-sengers of the 
Conecuh River Baptist Association, and) 
the churches they represent; — 
Dear Brethren: I have thought thui 
a suitable admonition would be best for the 
present address. Brethren. 1 wish to ad- 
monish you to look to yourselves, that you 
lose none of tho-se things which we have 
wrought, which admonition is given by 
the beloved disciple of our Lord, in hrs 
second epistle and eighth verse: Look to 
yourselves, that we lose not those things 
which we have wrought; but that we re- 
ceive a full reward. In the 7th verse, he 
gives us the reason of this admonition: For 
many deceivers are entered into theworld, 
which he informs us isthe spirit of anti- 
christ. And in his first epistle, 2nd ch. & 
19th verse, he informs us that: They went 
out from us, because they were not of us. 

And, dear brethren, we often see. yea, 
feel the distress which the same seducing 
spirit of error has caused among us; which 
is the reason why 1 now admonish you to 
look to yourselves, that we lose not the 
things which we hive wrought. And 
now, brethren, whit have we wrought? 

; We have wrought obedience first, in be- 
lieving and obeying the truth. This, 
brethren, we have done by the anointing 
which we have received of him, which 
will guide us into all truth. 1st John, 2nd 
ch. and27ih verse. And secondly, by ths 

; tuition of the same anointing spirit of truth, 

1 we have contended against every wind of 
doctrine and all the craftiness of men, 
where u th'V lie in wail to deceive: and 

I have earnestly contended for the true faith 
of the gospel, which was once delivered to 
the saints. 

And now. brethren, how are we to look 
to ourselves? First, we are to look by faith 
and humble prayer to God who is the giv- 
er ol every good and perfect gift, that he 
may prepare us at all times to be sober 
and to l)c watchful. Because, says the 
apostle Peter, your adversary the devil as 

.aroariftg lion walkelh about seeking whom 
he may devour. Dear brethren,* let uj 



first look what means Ihe devil makes 
use of to devour our peace; for that is all 
he can devour. Is it by appearing to us 
as a devil? No, but in his transformation 
as an angel of light, For if satan be trans- 
formed into an angel of light, think it no 
marvel if his ministers be transformed as 
the ministers of righteousness. These are 
the instruments he makes use of lo bring 
confusion and sow the seeds of discord in 
the church of Christ. For this, brethren, 
Vve are to guard against these deceivers 
and all their unscriplural doctrines and in- 
stitutions, which hath not a thus saith the 
Lord for them, and to bar them out of bur 
churches and Associations. 

And now, brethren, let us stick close to 
the word of God, taking it for the man of 
our counsel, lest we be slain by a lion; for 
if the old prophet had not given heed to that 
which God had not spoke, he might not 
have been slain; (or God had given him a 
certain command, which he ought to have 
considered was not to be countermanded 
by an angel in the mouth of another proph- 
et. And now, brethren, let us consider 
that we also have an express command giv- 
en us in his word, thai if there come any 
unto you and bring not this doctrine, re- 
ceive him not into your house, neither bid 
him God speed; for he that Ijiddeth him 
Godspeed is partaker of his evil deeds. 
Now this house, brethren, represents the 
church, the house of God, where sound doc- 
trine is to be delivered and God worshipped 
in spirit and in truth. 

And now, my ministering brethren, 
consider that when you invite one of 
these characters into your meeting house 
and into your pulpit, you do not only make 
a mock of our adopted resolutions, but 
wound the feelings of your brethren, d-is-i 
honor the cause and violate an express 
command of almighty God, and beeome 
participant in an evil dead. Then, breth- 
ren, look to yourselves, considering the 
end of our faith, even the salvation of our 
souls, which will be our full reward. 

Dear brethren, let me admonish you to 
look diligently to yourselves in your res 
pective churches; keep up regular gospel 
discipline, which will bring the good fruit 
of peace amongst you. And brethren, know- 
ing- that many are to come to you in sheep's 
clothing, but inwardly are ravening wolves, 
but by their fruit you are to know them, 
let me admonish you, dear brethren, of 
your several churches, watch over the 
preachers that attend you, and if they, do 

not bear the fruit of sound doctrine, dis- 
miss them from the pastoral care of your 
church, least some should follow their per- 
nicious ways, and thereby the way of truth 
should be evil spoken of. This is our 
high privilege, brethren, carefully and faith- 
fully to watch over ourselves, ever having 
a single eye to the glory of God, ever 
praying that we may be clothed with the 
whole armor of God, by which we shall be 
able to quench all the firey darts of the 
wicked, & separate ourselves from amongst 
them; not out of the world, for in the 
world the wheat and the tares grow togeth- 
er. In St.. Matthew, 13 ch. and 3S verse, 
we are told that the field is the world, the 
good seed are the children of the king- 
dom; but the tares are the children of the 
wicked one, the enemy that sowed them is 
the devil. 

Therefore, brethren, it is not our privi- 
lege to root them out of the world, but out 
ot the church of Christ; for we are told in 
Paul's 2nd epistle to Corinthians, 6 ch. and 
14 v. Not to be unequally yoked together 
with unbelievers, for what fellowship hath 
righteousness with unrighteousness. 
Therefore we are told to come out from 
amongst them, and to have no fellowship 
with the unfruitful workers of darkness. 
Therefore, brethren, we cannot be too 
watchful in guarding against the enemy, 
for in Paul's epistle to Philippians, 3rd ch: 
and IS v. we are told, that there are many 
walk of whom I have told you often, and 
now tell you even weeping, that they are 
the enemies of the cross of Christ. 

And we, brethren, by experience know' 
; that there are such men now in the world 
| who are trying to deceive with the form 
; of godliness, destitute of the power thereof; 
1 and from all such saiih the word, turn a- 
! way and come out from amongst them, 
! and I will receive you, saith the Lord 
! Almighty. And now, brethren,- look 
\ to yourselves ami watch over one another 
J in the spirit of love; deal faithful one with 
j another, love as brethren, live in peace. 
! Finally,- brethren, farewell; be perfect, bo 
I of gooj comfort, be of one mind, live in-. 

peace and the God of love and peace shail 

be wilii you. Amen 

\V. J. POUNCEY, M&d'h 
Wm, Thomas, Clerk. 

Tkomaslon, Upson co. Georgia, ~> 
Nov. IQlh, lS4(i. S 
Dear Brethren: Having an oeca*»irm 
loaiake my remittance- which 1 have delay- 



«d longer than 1 could have wished, though [therefore, must have the gospel preached [§ 
I suppose it is not yet too late to do good, khem for their comfort, instruction, and 
For rrty own part, I can say with a truth, that j enlargement every way, fcr their good and 
ihy sentiments correspond with brother I God's glory; well then, there must be 
Whatley's as to the contiuuing'of our little j preachers, and a solemn duty enjoined on 
paper, j both church and minister. 

Our Association', the Towaliga Primi | Now, brethren, hear me; these things 
tive Baptist Association, has had its annual j are enjoined and ordained of God, that 
session, where we have had as we trust and! they that preach the gospel should live of 
believe, the truth 1 of that promise verified, the gospel; and when the church neglect 
where Jesus says: "Where two or three their preacher t^tey s^in agairrs't God; and 
are met together in my name, there am 1 \ when the preacher neglect the church, he 
in the midst." The churches have all | sins against God, neither having dene their 

been represented, with the addition of one 
to our number, making in all 2S churches in 
our body. We are gratified to say, not only 
that our own body has been as large as the 
number of churches would admit: but have 
looked round and seen our brethren com 
frig from every way. Our hearts have been 
made to rejoice, at the reception of the 
messengers amongst us from the different 
Associations with whom we correspond. 
Our Association was held with the church 
at Emaus, near Thomaslon; and 1 can say 
with a truth, that the preaching of ihe gos- 
pel at that place was not in vain; for we 
have had one meeting since, and received 

duty. Now all have their own burdens' 
to bear, the church complains they are poor, 
notable to do much for their preacher; thiai 
may be true, but that does not argue 
that they should do nothing. God re- 
quires a liberal and cheerful giver, and that 
will stop the mouth of giinsayers. More- 
over, Go-1 ha'es covetoiisness also. Some 
preachers are poor and have helpless fam- 
ilies, and they can't go and preach and slay 
at. home and work both at the same time;' 
but calls of the brethren are pressing; come, 
brother, come; that aint all, they give theiri 
special calls and set them over them as sup- 
plies or pastors and receive their spiritual 

three by experience and one of them dated ! things, and truly the brethren are kind in 
his conviction from that meeting, and it the treatment of their person, . but p iy 
appeared that he could not find rest day nor jno attention to their situation at home, 
night until he found it in (he blood of a ; And now, brethren, I speak from almost 
crucified Jesus. I believe that -1 do thank j thirty years experier>ce, what the preach- 
God, that I have lived to see ihe forubod- Icr feels, yet 1 am unable to answer the 
ings of better times for the church, and na- question that is in my mind, and I hope to 1 
fcion-. hear fio-m some of the writers in ihe 

No more at present, brethren;' but when i Primitive a solvency of Ihe matter; for I 
it goes well with you remember me. j know of some preachers that are poor and 

IV1LLL1M TRICE. I the world exclaim thus against them, they 

■ j that provide not for themselves and espe- 

?o EDITORS pki'mitiye baptist. Icially for those of their own household, 

— have denied the faith and are worse than 

laji. infidel; thai is, Worse than they arc, 
; though they be ail unbeliever. Now, 

,/lltapitlgiis, Decatrtr county. Ga. 
November 20. IS,-. 

S-iO. 5 

Beloved Bketiihen: A few lines of [brethren, is this sin on the preacher or on 
admonition, as we should all be subject one ilie church, as the preacher is of the house- 
to another. The case of the Primitive Bap- 'hold of the' saint's and family of God? and 
tists is one of great importance, and should 'did the apos'.le only mean the earthly fam- 
be guarded at every point. As such J ; ily? we all know while the lay member is 
wish to say 3 few things to the churches & \ busily engaged' in procuring food and 
also the preachers; seeing that occasion isjraiment for his children and money to ad- 
given to the enemy- to '-find fault. The ivance them, Ihe preacher is riclriig front 
Primitive churches are too slack in doing 'place to place preaching, and all his earthly' 
their duty, and their preachers loo often jconeci ns are neglected and the matter 
oppressed. Bretl^en, be admonished; we {lies with himself and comes not before 
rail ourselves Primitives, let us act as did the church. Brethren, how is this? the 
the Primitives, each attend to our duty, as | preacher looks round, he sees all his ne- 
the church is for the glory of God in all iccssiiies, he feels his wants, yearns over his 1 
things through Jesus Christ, The church, j offspring- as other men, but he has been apt 


prehended of God and made a minister 
ifo minister in holy things; and having had 
a dispensation committed unto him, not 
willingly but against his will, then woe is 
me if I preach not the gospel. 

Now, brethren, decide for the man, 
decide for yourselves, and I will drop the 
subject for the present. 


P. S. Brethren, I do not write the a- 
bnve that it should be thus done unto me. 
My day is past. away. 1 do it for the hon- 
or of tbe Primitive Baptists, that in dis- 
charging their duties they may appear con- 
sistent with what they profess, and not 
leave room for those missionary opposers 
lo degrade and to find fault. Neither do I 
it for the general Baptist church, but for 
those who it may fit, which there are too 
many 1 fear guilty in the above case. 

Dear brethren, pardon me for the free- 
dom 1 have taken, and let me beseech you, 
and especially deacons of s.ud churches, 
that they visit and examine theconditionof 
their preachers. Urge on the hearers and 
attendants to the church whether they are 
members or not, that your preachers may 
be encouraged and your own duties be ful- 
filled; for we have an assurance that God 
will bless us in doing our duty; not for do- 
ing it, but in doing it. Out of our duty 
we cannot look for a blessing, but for re- 
buke and a scourge. I fail to quote the scrip- 
tures on these points, because I know my 
brethren can read, and I have a great deal 
more lo say on the subject than one letter 
can contain, without making it too lengthy. 
And I must conclude, by saying, 1 hope the 
admonition may be well received, not for 
my sake, but for the glory of God, and the 
goodol'Ziom IV. McE. 


Merger's Store, Pittsylvania en. Va . } 
' Dec. 2, 1840. \ 
Dear bhf.thufn of the primitive 
baptist: I told you in my last communi- 
cation, that there was a lie out, but I do not 
fay who told it; but it is so, and it is be- 
tween MY. Adams and some one el«e, but 
\ don't know who, as Mr. A. did not tell 
me who it was when I asked him. But 
the lie is this: Mr. A. called the attention 
of several persons that were present and 
said, let me tell you what he said; and 
then he told them that I said I believed there 
were none saved, that is, no person but 

them that were baptised by immersion. I 
said lo him that is a lie, and he said, you did 
say fo. I again said, it is a lie, and then he 
said you are another. I then asked him, 
when or where did I tell you so? He 
then said, you did not tell me so, but you 
did tell a lady so; and she told me, you said 
there was no one saved but them that are 
baptised by immersion. I then told him, 
that it was not a lady told him that, for she 
or an}' one else that says that I said so, is 
a liar; for, said I, I never did believe it, and 
thai. I never made a Saviour of baptism; for 
I believe that the thief on the cross was 
saved, and 1 don't know that he was bapti- 
sed, but I believe he was saved without wa- 
ter baptism. 

But you, my readers, can see, that Mr. 
A. made too sure that I said so at the first, 
for he went so far as to call me a liar on- 
ly on heaisiy, and when I saw him again 
I asked him who told him, and he said he 
could tell, but has not told yet; but he 
told me that he had seen the lady & convers- 
ed with her on the subject and said, she 
said she would not be positive that^I siid so; 
but thai she inferred that was my belief, 
from what she heard me say. So I must say 
to Mr. A. that itis doubtful with me wheth- 
er she ever told you she heard me say so. 
And will say to you, sir, that you should 
not tell any person they are liars, unless 
you know it, or can prove it; as you did 
me, when I was telling the truth. But no 
odds, all things shall work togetherfor good 
to them who love God and are called 
according to his purpose. 

I now will say to the missionaries, ifyou 
have any more young ones among you, 
you had belter keep them until their beard 
grows cut, or advise them like a Metho- 
dist preacher did one of his young converts, 
that is, O say nothing about their reli- 
gion. I can and will tell both their names 
when I am asked in a friendly way, for 
there are some others that heard it lold to 
me, and you missionaries of North Caro- 
lina had better pursue the same course. 

Again: Mr. A. tells me to let the mis- 
sionaries alone; and all of them say, let us 
alone, we do not interrupt you. 1 say, 
you do not; but it is because we have cast 
you out of our churches. But you know 
you did interrupt us, while you was in our 
churches, with your begging for money ; but 
yet you cry, let us alone. Just like the man 
did that had the spirit of an unclean devil, & 
cried out with a loud voice, saying, let us 
alone. See 4 ch. 33, 34 verses of Luke, 



Here yen can see that men of old which 
had unclean spirits cried like the missiona- 
ries and go-betweeners do in this day, let 
ys ajone; but 1 hope you sneaks will be- 
come ashamed of being like the men that 
had unclean spirits, and will love to hear the 
truth as it is in Jesus. 

But I must say to Mr, A. as you seemed 
to think I could not prove the doctrine ol 
election only by Paul, and as you do not 
believe him, 1 will give you some proof 
from the blessed Jesus and his evangelists. 
But as my sheet wiii not hold much more 
and my candle is almost burnt out, and it 
late in the night, I will give yon but a few. 
See, Mat. I ch. 21 verse: And she shall 
bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his 
name Jesus: for he shall save his people 
from their sins. Here we see Jesus had 
a people here before he came here; and I 
should be glad to hear an Arminian tell 
how he got them, unless it was in the ever- 
lasting covenant. Then part is his, or all 
is his; so if all is his, he will save aP, for 
he shall save his people. Again see 7 ch. 
2 1,22 verses of Mat. : Not every one that 
saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into 
the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth 
the will of my Father, which isin heaven. 
See 22 verse, for it speaks like a missiona- 
ry and says, many will say to me in that 
clay, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in 
thy name, and in thy name have cast 
out devils, and in thy name done many 
wonderful works. The 23 verse: And then 
will I profess unto them, I never knew you, 
depart from me, ye that work iniquity. 
Heri I will say, that the Lord knew them 
as evil workers, and not as good workers 
as they suppo-ed; and so I fear it will be 
with you missionaries, who boast through 
your Minutes how many Sabbath schools 
you hare established, and how many tem- 
peranfte societies you have formed, and how 
many temperance discourses you have de- 
livered, which. i3 nothing hui the tradition 
of wicked men. And when you are asked, 
who required this at your hands? 1 fear 
you will like Belshazzar, tremble, or like 
the rest of the wonderful workers; for 
you have not one thus saith the Lord for 
all your works. 

Ag^.i, see Mat. 8 ch 8 verse, and read 
to the 12 verse. Here the centurion says, 
Lord, I am not worthy that thou shouldesi 
come under my roof, but speak the word 
only, and my servant shall be whole. 
Hereyou see that the centurion had noth- 
ing to boast of what he hud done, or what 

he would do,b'it left it all for the Lord to do; 
and he did not pretend to help him, no, 
but said, speak, Lord, and it shall he so 
Here is the elect faith. Hem him in ihe 
9 verse say: Fori am a man under author- 
ity, having soldiers under me; and I say to 
this man go, and he goeth; and to another 
come, and he cometh; to my servant do this, 
and he doeth it. 

Here, my readers, you may see that 

he was a predestinarhn, for he gave God 

the power to say, and come or go at his 

will, and not at the will of the creature. 

And then see the 10 verse and see what 

Jesus says to such. When Jesus heard it, 

that is, the centurion's faith, he marvelled 

and said to them that followed, verily I say 

unto you, I have not found so great faith, 

no not in Israel. So the elect faith, is 

great. See the 1 1 verse says, that many 

shall come from the east and west, and 

shall sit down in the kingdom of heaven. 

Here you may see Jesus says, they shall 

come, and does not say like you sneaks do, 

— that he wants all to come. So he does 

not consult with them, for them he wants 

he draws, and them he draws come. And 

you sneaks or Arminians, cannot prove 

that God ever tried to draw one and could 

not. See Ihe 6 ch. of John, 37 verse says, 

all that the Father giveth me shall come to 

! me, &c. in the positive. Again, Jesus 

i says, no man can come to me except the 

j Father which sent me draw him, &c. Here 

J you see, Mr. A. that all the Father gave to 

J Jesus shall come, and that none can come 

j but them the Father draws. And it is not 

' of him that will, nor of him that runs, but 

of God, ami him alone. So let them that 

' glory, glory in the Lord.. So as ever, your 

brother in tribulation. Farewell, 



Blackvilfe, So. Carolina, 
Nov. 16/A, 1S40. 

Dear Brethren: In answer to the 
question: What is the difference between 
education, and revelation? 1 think it is 
both one thing. As Elihu said to Job: I 
will also tell you my opinion. You may 
enjoy your opinion still. Education and 
revelation is like law,- "and grace; and they 
are like fne, and water. These are ele- 
ments that we cannot do without them, yet 
they cannot agree together. 

The great question was asked of a great- 
er being than man: Lord, what is man? 



Man we&re informed was made of two paits, 
«n earthly, and a heavenly part, and both 
made one united in one, body and soul. 
This body is of earth, I he Lord came down, 
blew into the nostrils of this earthly made 
body, and man became a living soul. This 
body of flesh we call terrestrial, and the 
heavenly part we call celestial. This ter- 
restial and celestial parts being by the ma- 
ker united together, made human nature. 
The celestial part bears the perfect image 
of the creator, as such, it was the will of 
God the inner man should hold the pre- 
eminence. Therefore, the law was made 
to support the soul in this pre-eminence: 
forbidding the.terreslrial part, not to act 
contrary lo it, for if it dees, it shall die. 
'{Gens 2, 17,) The enemy of God and 
man, laid a scheme to give the terrestrial 
part, to possess a power to bring the celesti- 
al part into subjection to the terrestrial part. 
The forbidden fruit was eaten, the soul, or 
celestial part beeame dead, spiritually dead 
to God and godliness; dead in sin and tres- 
passes. (Ephes. 2, 1.) Now if man that is 
dead hath power to act, and make the dead 
pait alive, he can complete his salvation. 
If not, another must do it for him. It is 
die nature of a degenerate man to do all he 
can, to hide his disobedient action, like 
his father by making a fig leaf apron, to hide 
his nakedness. It is generally believed, 
that education is the only refuge. Eduea- 
cation isthe teaching of one man to anoth- 
er man. The teacher is a body of flesh and 
can only teach another man; this leaching 
in schools, academies Si in colleges, is only 
taught lo the terrestrial body of fallen 

And when one man teaches another all 
ihe arts and sciences man may be taught, 
all degrees of education, natural and moral 
philosophy, and astronomy; then he can 
describe the different parts of the earth, 
and the run and movements of all the heav- 
enly bodies- Yet he can tell nothing of 
the soul; and, because he doth know noth- 
ing about it, he denies sueh a bring! This 
learned man can boldly contradict Joshua, 
and say he was a fool to command the sun 
to stand still, when lie never moved. It was 
the earth that stood still. And that Isaiah 
was a deceitful fellow, when he made He- 
aeUiah believe he drawed the sun ten de- 
grees back. For if he had made the day 
ten hours longer, one half the world would 
have been burned up; & the other half been 
frozen!!! This proves they never were 
taught the knowledge, nor power of God. 

There is such a degree of education taught 
in colleges as oriental philosophy; that is 
taught, to show to man his moral duty to- 
wards God and man. Thus, the practical 
part of man's invemed religion is taught; 
and at the best it is only morality, and ends 
in civility, without any grounds of the the- 
oretical parts. Man is only (aught there is 
a God, and you must reverence him; but 
you are not taught who this God is, nor 
what he does. Therefore, the learned have 
different views of this being. And some 
of those learned men deny him!!! These 
schools and colleges were in Jerusalem, 
and in a little time Ahab had four hundred 
prophets, to the Lord having one; and 
the Lord's prophet had to lie in jail, and 
have his face slapped, while A hab's proph- 
ets fared well. But remember, an evil 
spirit could enter the heart of Ahab's pro- 
phets, to delude Ahab to where he was 
slain. But that evil deceitful spirit could 
not enter the heart of the Lorel's prophet. 
(1 Kings, 22. 5 — 23) Thus, education 
set all ihe rulers of the Jews against the 
promised Messiah when he made his ap- 
pearance in this world. And because the 
Saviour made choice of poor unlearned 
fishermen to be his apostles, and would 
not have their educated sons, the} 7 rose upon 
him and crucifieel him as an impostor. So 
you see Jesus would have nothing to do 
with this worldly institution of human ed- 

Revelation is the work of God, in and 
thro' his Son Jesus Christ, of his own free 
will and choice'. To make known to 
fallen man, what it is he hath done to him- 
self, against whom he hath acted, and what 
he deserves for his acts of disobedience. 
Revelation maketh known to man, in a 
threefold sense of the wonderful works of 
grace of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, 
yet but one infinite and eternal God. 
And this is made known to none but 
the celestial part of man; he does nothing 
to (he terrestrial part. First, God for his 
unchangeable love which he ever had to- 
wards the creatine, though he hated sin, 
devised the means of grace to deliver his 
children from sin, and restore them to his 
favor. And when Ihey were viewed in a 
ruined and rebellious state, that there was 
none that did good, (Psalms, 14.) the Fa- 
ther gave them to his son, the son then cloth- 
ed himself in their nature in all respects but 
sin. In this perfect, nature he honored the 
law by obedience, then to satisfy justice 
and truth, he, Jesus, gave up his body df 



fcumnn nature ai a sacrifice on tha alfar 
the Godhead; the allar sanctifying the sa- 
crifice, made'eternal redemption for them; 
and tlie Father accepted the offering, raised 
this body from the dead to die no more, 
(Rom. 6. 9) to justify this work, receiv- 
ed this dody into heaven and to his right 
hand of power: where he ever liveth 
to make intercession for his redeemed 

Then the gospel was ordered to be 
preached, to tell mankind what Jesu,s 
Christ hath done, (not what yon must do.) 
for all the Father did give him. The 
great question arises; What did Jesus do 
all this for? Not for himself, for he nev- 
er did wrong; but it was done for his 
church. How are we to know ill This 
belongs to revelation. And in order to 
bring his church to a saving knowledge 
thereof, the Holy Spirit comes down 
from the courts above, to convince the sin- 
ner of his sin, and to show him the nature 
of righteousness, and judgment. This the 
Spiritdoes by working in (not with) the man 
or woman, to the celestial part lying dead 
in sin and tresprsses. This Spirit maketh 
his way through the pride and obstinacy 
of the fleshly nature, to the heart of the 
celestial man, and rollelh away the rock of 
unbelief, and breaketh open the heart 
where the soul lieth dead, the Spirit saith 
to that soul live. (Eze. 16. 1 — 15. St. 
John, 6th 63.) The soul being made alive, 
seeth itself surrounded with the abomina- 
tions of hell: it fries, but knoweth not to 
whom. The soul in its distress would 
fain to. pr.ay, but knoweih not to whom,- nor 
what to pray for. It is cut off from all 
things, it cannot tell its misery, nor what 
would do it good. Therefore the soul 
is hopeless anil helpless! It cheerfully 
giveth itself to God, for to have his 
choice; whether he will sink it in wo, or 
take it off this ho.rrible pit and save it. 
This brings the soul reconciled to God. 
1 deserve endless wo, and it he saves me 
it is his own free choice. This Spirit 
directs that soul to cry to Jesus; it does so, 
Jesus comes; that Spirit teaches who he is, 
and when Jesus comes, he cleans this ce 
lestial heart from all these abominations the 
devil put in there, maketh all go away, devil 
and all. 

The soul is opened for the reception of 
Christ Jesus, the Lord. Jesus pardons all 
the offences committed, washes away all 
sin and guilt in his own blood. The Spirit 
•hcddelh the Father's love in that heart, & 

taketh the faith of Jesus and giveth it to Ui§ 
soul, Jesus then becomes the life of that 
soul. The soul now enjoys more joy than 
it ever expected. Jesus commendeth that 
sou! to his Father, without .spot or wrin- 
kle. The Father adopieth it into his own 
family and claims, it as his son or daughter, 
and maketh it a son or daughter, and heir of 
his glory. This soul enjoys consolation, 
comfort, and peace. This faith given to it 
enables it to believe the /ruth, and to put all 
confidence in Jesus Christ for the salvation 
thereof, the way, the truth, and life, as 
for llsetefnaJ all. This soul thus dealt 
with, having Christ for its wisdom, fiingeth 
away the wisdom he had by education, it 
lays by all that he thought was gain, not 
worth the dust that slickeih to his feel — 
(Phil. 3. 4—9. 1 Cor. 2. 4, 5.) God the 
Father revealed his Son in me, that 1 should 
preach him to others. (Gal. 15. 16.) Edu- 
cation could not do this. And Jesus rejoic- 
ed in spirit. St. Luke, !0. 21. 

Now, education is good in its place, and 
revelation is better in its place; but they 
will not agree together in bringing souls to, 
God through his Son Jesus Christ. But 
love is the cord that doeth this work that 
links them to Jesus Christ, and to one an- 
other In brotherhood, never to part. Ed- 
ucation never did, nor never will do the 
like. The proud and great ones of this 
world, put their ministers to school to make 
them high, lofty, and puffed up, and great 
amongst men (1 Gor. 8. 1.) But loveed- 
ifieth- Their aim is to disappoint God. 
Education is to make the terrestrial part as 
great as the celestial; hut God will over- 
throw it, for his design is that the celes- 
tial shall reign over the terrestrial. If 
you through the Spirit do mortify the deeds 
of the body, you shall live. But if you 
follow after the flesh, you shall die. Now, 
if any man have not the Spirit of Christ. 
You are none of his. (l\om. S. 9.) 

I have briefly, but very imperfectly 
showed you the difference between educa- 
tion and revelation. And I pray the God 
of all grace to direct your hearts aright 
with himself, for Jesus Christ's sake. A- 


China Grove, Pike coxmly, ,/tla. 

Jan'i/ 9th, 1S41. 

Dear brethren Editors: I would 

be glad old brother Lawrence would give. 

his light on the covenant; how it was 



brought about, for tl e redemption of the [ lr i"<- "'' itself shorflfl lead to licentiousness, when 

church, by the Son. 

Yours in Christian 

afBssnwr 1 :±s«c«* 




Elizabeth City, Pasquotank county, JV. C. ~) 
February 15///, 1841. S 
Dkah Bketiiken Editors: Of the old aposto- 
lic faith and order. I am not worthy of having 
my name enrolled in the Primitive paprr, but I 
must let you know my mind concernir g the elec- 
tjoii of men to eternal happiness, before the foun- 
dation of the world. Audit may be proper, in 
th€ first place, to take some notice of the election 
of Christ, as man and mediator, who is God's 
first and chief elect, and is called hts elect. Isai- 
ah, 42, 1: Behold, my servant whom I uphold, 

the thing itself contained in it is the source of all 
holiness. Men are chosen according to this doc- 
trine to be holy. How clearly does the apostle 
Paul enlarge on thfe doctrine, of election. It is 
plentifully declared in the Bible, we need not be 
ashamed of it, nor ought not to conceal it. 

Dear brethren, I proceed then to observe the 
way it is expressed in scripture, by being ordain- 
ed to eternal life. Acts, 13. 48: As many as 
were ordained to eternal life believed. Did they 
believe if they had money enough they could 
Christianize the world? No they believed that 
the Lord was able to save his people without the 
aid of money. 

The next thing to bo considered is, by whom, 
election is made, and in whom it is made. It is 
made by God, and it is made in Christ. It is 
made by God as the efficient cause of it. God t 
who is a sovereign being, and has a right ta do 
what he will with his own. Shall he be denied 
that which every man thinks he has a right unto 

mine elect in whom my soul delighteth. 1 have 
put my spirit upon him, he shall bring forth judg- j and does have. Do not masters chose their ser- 
ment to the Gentiles. Again: Behold, my ser- vants, and men their favorite friends and compan- 
yant whom I have chosen, my beloved in whom i ions, and may not Go-d chose whom he pleases 
niy soul is well pleased; I will put my spirit up- | to commune with him both here and hereafter, oc 
on him, and he shall show judgment to the Gen- . to grace and glory. Me does this and therefore 
jiles. Matthew, 12,18. And lo, a voice from it is called election of God, of which God is the 
heaven, saying, this is my beloved Son, in whom ■ efficient cause. 1 Thes. 1. 4- Knowing, breth- 
1 am well pleased. Matthew, 3, 17. And often- ! ren beloved, your election of God. And the per- 
times, the, chosen of God, it respects the choice of I sons that are chosen are called God's elect, this 
jhe human aature of Christ, to the grace and uni- | being the act of God forever. This act is made 
on with him as the Son of God. : in Christ, according as he has chosen us in him 

The character of elect, as given to Christ, res- ; before the foundation of the world, that we should 
peels the choice of him to his office as mediator; be holy and without blame before him in love, 
in which he was set up and with which he was in- ' Election does not hud men in Christ, but puts 
vested, and had the glory of it before the world them in him. 

began. He was first chosen, and set up as an The date of election is next to be considered, 
head; then his people were chosen as members of and certain it is, that it was before men was born, 
jiinii Some are of the opinion, that this doctrine Rom. 9. 11: Toe children not being yet born, 
of election, admitting it to bq true, should not be ' that the purpose of God according to election 
published nor preached, nor treated of in the wri- might stand. And this also is belore the new 
tings of men. The reasons they give are, because it biith, and before calling. For calling is the fruit 
is a secret, and a'thing that belongs to God, and and effect of election. 2 'Flies. 2. 13: God has 
because it tends to fill men's minds with doubts from the beginning chosen you unto salvation, 
about their salvation, and to bring them into dis- ; Not from the beginning of the preaching of the 
tress and even into despair, and because some gospel to them, for that may be preached among 
may make a bad use of it, indulge themselves in a people hut not to their profit. So election is 
a sinful course of life, and argue that if they are absolute and unconditional, it is complete and 
elected they shall be saved let them live as they ' perfect, it is immutable and irrevocable, it is spe- 
may, and so it opens a door to all licentiousness. | cial and particular. Election may be. known, for 
But these reasons are frivolous and groundless, to whomsoever the blessings of grace are. applied, 
The doctrine of election is no secret, it is written ■ they must be the elect of God. Please to re- 
as with a sunbeam in the sacred scripture. Rorn. member me when at a throne of grace. 
8. 33: Who shall lay any thing to the charge of 

God's elect] Yea, our Lord Jesus Christ exhorts 
his disciples rather to rejoice that their names 
ffete written in heaven* Strange that this doc- 

Blest is the man, forever blest, 
\V hose guilt is pardon'd by his God; 
Whose sins by sorrow are confess'd, 
And cover'd with his Saviour'* blood. 



Bloat Is the man to whom thn Lord, 
Imputes not his iniquities; 
He pleads no merit of reward, 
And not on works but grace relies, 



Lapland, Buncombe county ■; N, C. } 
October 6, 1840. S 

Dear brethren in the Lord: Throughout 
the wide extended world, my love is extended to 
youi And as I am an old man, and full of days, 
and can't do much for you, I have whetted up my 
old club axe to cut a few sticks for to make a fire 
for you old Primitive Baptists to warm your toes 

I have just returned from the Nolly chncky As- 
sociation, and I assert to you that 1 have not seen 
euch a time of love and oneness among brethren 
in my whole life; and this seemed to be the cry 
among all the brethren. And now, my dear breth- 
ren, the cause of this oneness is, because they se- 
parated themselves from the cursed inventions of 
men and devils, to wit, missionism and all her 
train of harlot daiighers. 

And now, my dear beloved brethren, I wish you 

ago;' for [ know God'* time is the right tlino. I 
know their wretched lives are wasting away and 
they will meet their doom soon enough, and too 
soon for their good. Poor, trifling wretchessi 
Brethren, there is nothing can be said too mean 
of theini Brethren, 1 do firmly believe, if they 
the missionaries had the power given to them, 
that they would storm their way to heaven, and 
drive the king of heaven out of his dominion, and 
there reign incarnate devils forever. Brethren, 
1 told the churches at the first start of the mission 
business in my country, that they should tin fellow- 
ship the mission craft or me, one or the other; for 
1 was determined, by the help of God, to stand 
against it to my dying day. And for this cause 
they are still in wrath and vengeance against me, 
and rolling out their lies in their Minutes every 
year against me. Poor wretches, they little 
think that they are making my joys the greater, 
and their damnation the hotter. 

Brethren, I am a plain man, and make use of 
plain language; for you do know that, that is not 
of God is of the devil; and if the missionaries are 
of God, all the world of mankind, from the days 
of Adam to the commencement of missionism? 
that have died are and must now be in hell; which 
no man in his senses can believe. Then away 

to know, that I coinside with brother Luke Hay 
nie in his address to the brethren, No. 18, vol. 5, I with the cursed craft, from among us, and as old 
where he says he wishes every brother to write brother Thomas Hill, of Tennessee said, from the 
his mind freely: particularly to the preaching ! public stand at the Primitive Baptist Association 
brethren, deacons and members. As we have not \ jrj Jefferson county, that he did believe there were 
all trials and troubles alike, let us bear with one | more preachers in hell than any other" people un- 
another's burdens; you that wish to write smooth ' der heaven, according to number. Audi for one 
and easy, do so and welcome, 1 can bear with you; did believe the old brother's preaching, with all 
and we that wish to write rough and plain things, ' my heart and soul. 

bear with us, foi whenever it gets to that, that I 
dare not write my own mind, that moment I for 
one am done with the papers. 

Brethren, this is a time of war, and there is no 

Dear brethren, be cautious how you believe 
about the writing in our papers; for I tell you, the 
missionaries are now claiming the name of the 
Old School or Primitive Baptists, and 1 verily 

possibility of peace till the war is ended; and the ' believe there are some of them now writing in 
heavier the cannon and bombshell is fired the our papers, and will get at it more and more. 
better. O, ye Buernagenses, ye sens of thunder, I Take care, brethren; watch as well as pray, as 
cease not to fixe the cannon while ye stand on the old brother Hill told the brethren in the time of 
walls of Zion; give the alarm while ye see the the Association held at Friendship meeting-house 
sword coming, for the whole legions of devils are ; in Tennessee, Jefferson county. Says the dear 
in battle array, marching around the camps of the I old brother, take care, brethren, this is a mighty 
saints. And the missionaries are the head com- ' time of dodging; and as sure as there is a God on 
manders in the devil's army at this time, in my ! high, it is a time of dodging sure enough. And 
soul's belief. And the fire is about to come down , I do sincerely believe that there are a number of 
from heaven and consume them, which I think is ! the missionaries and their fence straddlcrs that 

the love of God among the old Primitive Baptists. 
And if the old fashioned Baptists throughout the 
United States only would pick up courage, and 
seperate themselves from the harlot of missions, 
as they ought to have done long ago, king Eman- 
uel would head our army and we should be able to 
drive them to the dark regions where they belong. 
However perhaps I am too fast in saying long 

would willingly goto hell if they thought their 
going there would destroy all the old Primitive 
Baptists out of the whole world. 

1 have one request to make to all who write in 
those papers, that is, to say in your next commni- 
cation, whether you unfellowship all the new 
schemes of the day so far as not to let none of their 
advocates preach in your houses nor meeting 



houfcesi I for or>e would rs soon fellowship a 
highway robber as one of ihe new fanglers, 

My dear brethren, when I went last October to 
the Primitive Baptist Association in Tennessee, 
and saw and heard the dear brethren all speak 
and preacli one and the. same tiling, I felt as though 
I could stand and fight with them against a na- 
tion of giants, tho' they had been as big as moun- 
tains, or tall as the cedars of Lebanon. how 
pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in uni- 
ty; it is like the oil that ran down Aaron's beard, 
even to the skirts of bis garment. My sheet is 
full, I must come to a close i Yours till death. 


Winchester, Franklin county, Tcnn } 
41 h Feb'y, 1S41. $ 

Dear Brethren: Of the faith of God 's 
fleet, and companions in tribulation. I 
having to send on a few dollars more to 
our worthy printer, for I don't believe it is 
right for us to have a servant who dischar- 
ges his duty well, to be so slack in pay- 
ing him. I as one acknowledge I have 
been too slow sending on. mv due, and 
fain would hope, lhat there is not anoiher 
but what has paid him before now. I am 
still pleased with ihe Primitive paper, and 
do hope that although money is scarce, 
that it will be supported by all the loveis 
of truth. And may ihe Lord afford his 
spirit to direct the pen of all who write 
therein, that it may be a bundle of good 
news for (he comfort of the saints and in- 
struction of all that trad. 

I was some few weeks since requested 
by a gentleman 1 never saw, lo give my 
views in the Primitive of the JG v. 1 ch*. 
of John. And as 1 am made lo believe 
that the South Carolinian lhat made it is a 
child of God, though not a member of his 
militant kingdom, but is bleating around 
the fold, I shall attempt to show mine o- 
pinion, hoping that ihe good Lord will di- 
rect my poor dark mind into the mysteries 
of the gospel. If reads thus: And other 
cheep I have, which are not of this fold: 
them also I must bring, and they shall 
hear my voice; and there shall be one 
fold and one shepherd. 

The blessed Jesus commences the 10 
ehap. wilh a positive declaration of all be- 
ing impostors who came before him or 
might come after, claiming to be the 
Messiah; and the reason assigned is, lhat 
they came not in by the door, and that the 
*heep would not follow a stranger, for ihey 

know net ihe voice of strangers. Now 

I believe the door in one point to be 
ihe revelation of God by his spirit to the 
prophets, of his purpose and design in sen- 
ding his Son into the world, and of 
setting up his kingdom or church; at which 
time he would gather first his children 
from among Israel as a notion, and Israel 
being his chosen people the}' were called 
a fold. But Paul says, they are not all Is- 
rael that are of Israel, but in Isaac shall thy 
seed be, &c. Hence we see that Jesus was 
doing the will of his Father, in calling his 
promised children lo ihe knowledge of Ihe 
iruth, and folding them together upon the 
principle of fellowship. Me then says: 
And other sheep I have, which are not of 
this fold, &c having direct reference to 
them that his Father had given him among 
the Gentiles. For the prophets inform us, 
lhat his name shall be great among them. 
The scripture informs us, that fiod speaks 

of tilings that are no!, as though they were. 
I profess lo bo a predestinarian, and of 
course believe in election. I think his 
church, with every member thereof, was 
as complete in his mind before he made 
the world, as it w ill be actually when ihe 
last material shall be brought in. David, 
in 139 Psalm: Thine eyes did see my sub- 
stance, yet. being imperfect, and in thy 
book all my members were written; which 
in continuance were fashioned, when as 
yet there was none of them. I believe 
that l here was grace given ihem in Christ 
Jesus before the world began, and they 
were not there actually, but the means pro- 
vided lo bring them (here to receive it, 
and lhat at ihe appointed time. Therefore, 
says Jesus, them 1 must also bring, and 
they shall hear my voice. That voice 
will reach their soul?, though dead in sin, 
at the time appointed of the Father. And 
it never can fail lo bring them to Christ. 

II makes them hale sin, and desire holi- 
ness, and thus (hey are united in heart to 
ihe church of God, though they feel so 
much sin about every day lhat (hey are of- 
ten afraid they are no Christian. This 
I believe is the condition of JVlr. Mickler, 
a reader of the Primitive. He loves it, he 
loves Iruth, and this is an evidence that he is 
one of the fold of Jesus. 

My dear friend, manifest yourself by 
uniting your body with them; for it is 
a cold barren season in the church gener- 
ally ; then there is great need for all to be at 
their post, 

I have but barely touched the subject 



I wi.»h I had more room. for it require' 
lime to do any pari of to such a sub- 
ject; and iflhe liille scrap 1 have written 
should leave any of my precious bicth- 
ren's minds burthened^ I hope ihey 
will let me knnw it, and 1 will wrile again 
for (heir satisfaction. 1 believe in Hnptisis 
loving in deed an<l in truth; let ns all do 
pur duty and may the Lord grant a shower 
in the year 1S41, is the prayer of a poor 
servant for Jesus sake. 



Rudiieij, Tkbhtas county, Ga. ) 
December IG/h, 1B40. \ 
Deai; nitKTHKKN Emmas: Having to 
make a small remittance for the Primitive 
VJapiist,! have also thought fit to venture a 
small communication, in which I give 
yon some of my views for the prosperity 
of our paper, and the comfort and edifi- 
cation of its readers. For 1 though* the 
design of its origin was for 
in which we expect to hear of the prosperi- 
ty ?ni\ allletion of Zion, and the doctrine 
pf the gospel advocated from as many as 
may have the weight of edifying the body. 
Also as a weapon of de erne, which should 
be spiritually used, against the low< ■]• of lia- 
bvlo.n, in which many of 'he children of 
Zion have been led captive. 

And was this the entire use of our paper-, 
jt certainly would redound much to the glo- 
ry of God & to the peace and colli for I of its 
readers. Then we should avoid (is much 
as possible.) striving about words lo no 
profit, lest our piper go down; though 1 do 
not believe in admitting of dangerous er- 
rors to pass without a necessary notice to the 
swing of our cause. But should we be 
come so zealous as to shoot the critic's ar- 
row at every thing that does not suit our in- 
dividual taste, we should s >on have no wri- 
ters.; and if we had, we might be lacking of 

Then if we wish the paper to prosper, 
we must not use it for doctrinal contro- 
versy, neither should we use it to convey 
p.ur individual differences among our read- 
ers; for we are all apt. lo have a sharo 
of local embarrassments, and whether they 
be on faith or practice, it is very unpleas- 
ant, without sending it over the United 
States; and should not be done, unless the 
aggressor was excluded and then it might be 
pecessary if he was a preacher, in order to 
say-* the churches from intruders. But 

should individual members of the Primlti v« 
order, of different churchtsor of different 
Associations, have difficulties, it appears 
that ihey might be set: led upon the plan of 
gospel discipline. Bu' sometimes it may- 
be the case, that the offender may be too 
proud to submit to his master's discipline, 
and at other times the aggrieved may be 
loo stubborn to receive his due only; and 
when this gets (0 be the case among the 
hdlowers of our Lord and master, meihinks 
they have got out of the way for a season, 
and if so, they may get into satan's wind- 
mill. And if ihey do, (), how he will 
wind and sift them, I3ut I have one con- 
solation, (i. c.) if there is any wheat, he 
cannot get it, and the chaff and dirt he is 
welcome to, for me. 

And again, to the point. Should thoso 
members of different chinches pr Associa-r 
ations have such a quarrel as cannot oth- 
erwise be adjusied, (i. e.) if between mem-, 
hers of sister churches, they could call for 
help from other sister churches; or if be- 
tween preachers of sister Associations, they 
might call for help from other sister Asso- 
ciatons, by which means the offender might 
be come at, or the church of which he was. 
a rnemb.eti for sustaining him; for in my 
judgment, such would be but liitJe better 
than the concealment o,f the Babylonish 
garment, and the wedge of gold. 

Now 1 hope, dear brethren, that these 
few lines which I have in weakness rough- 
ly thrown together, may not; be received as 
though I was ireaiingmy wOVfhy brethren 
and venerable father's as a prccepior woulcl 
his pupils; by no. means, hut having to act 
as editor a few miiuiies. it being near the 
close of iho present volume,, and having at 
present no other motive than the glory of 
God and prosperity of Zion, for I have 
been weighted with the cause which, has 
produced this short and imperfect epislle, 
desiringasl hope 1 do, Unit our master's 
vineyard might flourish, which cannot be 
expected unless those branches which bear- 
no fruit be taken away, while those that 
bear should be purged that they may 
bring forth more fruit-, this should be 
done with the discipline, which our master 
has left us. 

Then our paper is no place for our dif-. 
ferences, but a remedy for ihem, and if we 
bite and devour one another, we may expect 
to be consumed one of ano'her; for if a 
kingdom divides against itself it comes to, 
desolation, and a house thus divided can- 
not stand. And should my course notsu.U 

Primitive battsst. 

Our reader?, they can shape a course and I 
hope sucli a one as will keep the unity of 
the Spirit in the bonds of peace. And I 
Jim not without grounds to hope, for I 
think our paper has been a great blessing 
io us and it is still improving, lor many 
ofour dear brethren have had their right 
eous souls fo perplexed vvfih the rude in- 
ventions of the missionaries, thai they have 
scarcely been able to conceal it In their 
Communications. Bui 1 hope the struggle 
is much abated, and our cViftuiiiriicalions 
will in future be more to I he edification of 
the body, instead of 'railing against those 
poor idol worshippers, wh > preach another 
gospel for the sake of money. 

Now 1 most earnestly desire thst their 
arrows may be cut to pieces, but should 
they be good ciiizens, they are for the 
same individually entitled to our esteem; 
For 1 have no duuht but many are taught 
zealously to worship God as they think. 
and have no spiritual knowledge of God; 
which knowledge to the believer is eternal 
life. So the true believer has much the ad- 
yantageofthe idol worshipper, from which 
they are entitled to our natural sympathy; 
For we could not believe until we did be- 
)ieve,and when we did believe we could not 
help it. In fact, we cannot doubt but there 
are yet many believers in Babylon, and 
the reason why 1 am so hold in using the 
plural (we) is, because the quotation* is so 
often used bv our writers as is the caption 
of our paper, (i. e.).'CO.MK 0U V OF 
HER, MY PEOPLE;'' which signifies 
they are not yet all oil, which (if they 
were all out) would be sufficient to say stay 
but. And as they are not yel all out of Ba- 
hylon, my prayer to God is that he may de- 
liver them From the dainties of Jezebel's ta- 


Lexington, Hohrtes county, Mi. j> 
November 6, 1*40. *> 
With Christ in the vessel, we smile at the 
Brethren Editohs: This is the sec- 
ond time that I have lifted my pen to ad- 
dress ) ou on the subject of the trials and 
difficulties that ihe vital Followers of ChrifSj 
have to meet with in these low grounds of 
sorrow. My first is in vol. .5, No 7, page 
108, wherein I undertook to give an out- 
line of the rise, progress, prosperity, and 
adversity of the old regular predestinarian 
Baptists in this Southern clime. And my 

name and feeling being identified with 
them for upwards of forty years, and feel- 
ing myself ever bound to said denomina- 
tion, is I hope in the strictest bonds' of 
Christian affection, so that 1 have often 
thought that tlieir sorrows were mine, and 
their joys were mine. An I whenever 1 
find them out in the tented field opposing 
(he common enemy, 1 have ever felt as 
though I wanted lo participate in their 

Brethren Editors, 1 have enjoyed Ihe 
oppoturiity of reading the little despised 
Primitive Baptist paper for upwards of a 
vear, throuyh the medium of which I ant 
not in possession ofsome of the trials and 
difficulties that tile vital followers of Christ 
are exposed unto in ibis vale of tears. And 
it ofieii puts me in mind of the poor despon- 
ding di&c'ples when ou the lake, and being 
overtaken with a mighty storm, death ap- 
peared lo stare them in the face, fearing 
(heir little bark would founder in the migh- 
ty waters. But, brethren, Christ was in 
the vessel, anil arose and rebuked the wind 
and the sea, and there was a great calm. 
It is an ingredient that is mixed up in (he 
pilgrim cup, in the world ye shall have 
tribulation, but our Saviour observes to his 
vital followers, he of good cheer, I have 
overcome the world. 

So, dear brethren, we shall quote a3 
above: With Christ in the vessel, we 
smile at the storm. We believe it to be 
the duty of all the vi'a! followers of the 
meek and lowly Jesus, to earnestly contend 
for the faith that was once delivered id the 
saints; and particularly the watchmen 
that are on the- walls, to give the alarm at 
the approach of the enemy. The adversary 
isever ready lo worry those he can't devour, 
by casting obstructions and discourage- 
ments hi the way. And 1 am led to be- 
lieve, that there never was a time w hen- 
vigilance, courage and activity in ihe cause 
of truth, was more necessary. Satan is 
characterised as being the prince of the 
power of the air, the spirit that worketh in 
the heart of the children of the disobedient,- 
and 1 have thought that through the strata- 
gems ol that wdy and malicious spirit, in 
stirring up and fermenlingand propagating' 
discord and error in the world, is the rea- 
son why the poor weather beaten pilgiim 
in his slate of probation in and throi gh 
this world, is pushed unto so many narrow 
places. But blessed be the great head of 
tire church, he will in his own time say to 
to those trying scenes, storms, hurricanes & 



tornadoes , as he did to the briny ocean,! 
hiiherto shall thou come and no furiher. 
(yes, and blessed be God.) and here shall 
thy proud waves be stayed. 

Brethren Editors, my mind often reverts 
back to the antideluvian world, old Noah 
with his little family) the high'y favored 
few, when soaring aloft on the face of the 
might} 7 waterswith his little bark bufftting 
the surges of the angry wave, and without 
helm or mast rode triumphant and secure 
over the foaming billow j and after traver- 
sing for a certain period of time the face 
of those mighty waters the aik at last res- 
ted on the mountains of Ararat. I have 
often thought what exultation there would 
have been in the bosom of a devil, if the 
srk with the highly favored few had foun- 
dered in the mighty waters. (But, glory 
to God,) the Lord shut him in, and preserv- 
ed him amidst the auful catastrophe. Dear 
brethren, it has been the tot and portion 
of the church of Christ, throughout every j 
dispensation, to suffer persecution and 
affliction; and like the bush of Moses, 
ever burning but never consumed. And 
through all the dark ages of the papal hie- 
rarchy, when persecution reigned pre- 
dominant, twas then and there that the 
tender lambs ol Jesus, suffered all that the 
rage and malice of men and devils could in- 
vent — the fire, the rack, the gibbet, the 
wheel. And why was it so? was it because 
the Lord's hand was shortened, & was not 
able to save? (no.) The Lord has a purpose 
in it, & participates with his suffering saints 
in their afflictions here below. And dear 
brethren, the great head of the church is 
looking upon with calmness and serenity 
the movement of his chinch militant here 
below, in these low grounds of sorrow: 
and has a special regard to their safety and 
well being, and saying, well done, good & 
faithful servant, thoO hast been faithful over 
few things; which will redound to their cre- 
dit, (but not merit.) 

1 will say to those old voterane and sol- 
diers of the cross, that have borne the heat 
and burthen of the day, he vigilant, be so- 
ber and endure hardness, as good soldiers 
of Jesus Christ; and try always to be found 
at the old corner post, opposingthe invasion 
of the common enemy. 1 would say. that 
according to my judgment of things, the 
Primitive cause is gaining ground in those 
parts. The Primitive Baptist Association, 
that was constituted one year with 
four churches, now numbers nine, and 1 
think the prospect is still brightening for a 

greater growth. 

And now in conclusion I would say> 
as it respects the little despised Primitive 
paper, it has been to me as good news from 
a far country. It has often made my bosom 
heave and swell with exultation, viewing 
it as a mighly engine in the hand of the 
great head of the church, for the dissemi- 
nation of the truths of the gos,>el, for the en- 
couragement of the saints and their estab- 
lishment in the truths of the gospel, &e. 
Fly abroad, thou little winged messenger, 
and administer all the balm and consolation 
that thou art master of, under the direction 
of the great head of the church. 

And now a word to the old Veterans of 
the cross. Take courage, stand fast and 
unshaken; your cause is the cause of truth. 
And we shall subjoin the above and say, 
with Christ in the vessel, we smile at the 
storm. So farewell, dear brethren. May 
indulgent heaven smile upon all your 
laudable attempts in the furtherance of and 
defence of the gospel. And 1 remain ev- 
er yours in the bonds of the gospel. So 
farewell, until next time. 



Grape Spring, Hapiilton co. Tenn. > 
Ffb. 4lh, 1841. ^ 

Dear brethren Editors: 1 bavins to 
send on some money to pay for my paper, 
I feci like writing you a few lines to let you 
know how things nre in this country. As 
respects religion, it is a cold and barren 
time amongst the Old Baptists. The Hi- 
wassee Association, that I am in the bounds 
of, have declared nop fellowship with the 
institutions of the day ; yet they are divi- 
ded in their belief. The VVulftiver church, 
that I am a member of,complies with the or- 
dinance or example of feet washing, and 
there is no other church as far as I know, 
that complies with the ordinance. And 
the churches in this country have rules of 
decorum to govern their church members 
by, and 1 believe it to be a missionary rule. 
And more than that, 1 think it to bea tradi- 
tional rule, & ought not to be kept up in the 
church of Christ il'dr I find by the writings of 
my brethren, that this rule of decorum has 
been the missionaries only plea, when if the 
Old Baptists would put il away out of the 
church, impostors could not impose on them 
J as they have clone, and lake the scriptures 
' for the government of their churches. 



Wolftiver church w.s Constituted June T 
1S38, on the Old Regular Baptist platform ; J 
and believing all other denominations are 
of the old serpent, the devil, and his works 
they will do. And for this reason 1 do not 
believe they are Christians, and 1 also 
believe they arc- wolves in sheep's clothing; the sheep will not follow ihem, for 
their voice is strange to all the sheep. For 
ihe sheep are all led by the same spirit, i 
for it is written, that by one spirit are ye 
all baptised into one body; which shows, 
very plainly, that the sheep are not follow- | 
ing every lo here, and lo there. And it is 
written again: Except you have the spir- 
it of Christ, ye are none of his. 

So 1 will come to a close by saying, that 
] do not want to trouble you with loo 
milch at once, it being the first lime that 1 
ever wrote for ihe press. 



Vienna, Pickens county. Alabama, ) 
January ?2f/, 1S11. $ 

Brethren Editors; I deem it advisa- 
ble to drop you a few lines, viewing the 
little Primitive as a source of comfort to all 
those who are really Primitive Baptists. 
Some of us in this part of the country 
deem it worthy of patronage, being a means 
through which a part of the persecuted of 
the day can hear from each, other. Further, 
as we believe carrying in it many of the 
mysteries of godliness, calculated, in a 
good degree calculated, lo feed and 
strengthen many. Therefore} 1 am di- 
rected to ask the continuance of the pa- 
per to all for whom I act as agent. V\ ith 
due respect 1 subset ihe myself. 



Dale county, Alabama, 1 
Jan'ry, 1S41. 5 

Dear Brethren in the Lord: 1 
find by reading your little winged messen- 
ger the Primitive Baptist, that is so much 
abused by the Ashdods, that there are yet 
some that are contending for the faith 
that was delivered to the saints. 

Dear brethren, as I have lately moved 
into a lonesome part of the world, where 
there is but very little preaching, or what I 
call preaching, 1 have found some of the 
old Primitive brethren & sisters in ibis part 

of the wrtrbl, I want you to send me three 
numbers of your papers. 1 remain yours 
in the Lord J E . ALfiRlTTON. 


NonTit Carolina. — .1. Biggs, Sen. tViliiams'on. 
K. M. G. Moore, Gerrnantoii. ° W. w. Mi zed, Ply- 
mouth. Charles Mason, Rnxbaro* . Benj. Bynum, 
Speight's Bridge. I!. Avera, Jlverasboro' . U H, 
Keiieday, Chalk Level. Burwell Temple, Raleigh. 
Geo. \v. M-eNeely, Leuksvitlc: Wuii II. Vann, 
Long Vee/r Brdge. Thomas ISagley, Smithjie\d. 
James H. Sasser, Waynesboro' . John Fruit, San- 
dy Creek. L. 15, Bennett, Hcnthville. Cor's 
Onnnday^Cravensville. William Welch, Abbott's 
Creeki J.Lamb, CumdenG, H. A. B. Bains, 
Jr. Stanhope. C. T. .Sawyer, Powell's Point. 
Isaac Tiilery, Laptatid, Thomas Miller, Eliza- 
beth City. Harris Wilkerson, West Point. Isaac 
Alderman, Moore'* Creek, James Miller, yiiltoa 
Park. David R. Canaday, French's Mills. L. P, 
Beardsley, Greenville. Isaac Meekins, Columbia, 
L, J.J. Puc-kett, Richland, 

South Carolina. — lames Hembree, Sen. An- 
derson C. //. (Jliarles Carter, Cambridge. B. 
Lawrence, Effingham. James Burris, Sent Bold 
Spring. William S. Shaw, Rock Mills. Levi 
Lee, Rlackville. Andrew Westmoreland, Cash- 
riUe. Ri Hamilton, Jlikcn. Marshal McGraw, 
Brown's, John Li Simpson, Coohham, I, Gi 
Bowers, Hickory Hill, Wm. Nelson, Camden, G< 
Mathews, Mount Willing. Jacob B. Higgins, 

Georgia. — William Moseley, Bear Creek. Al- 
ien. Cleveland, WcDonough, John McKenney, For- 
syth. Anthofty Holloway, Lagrange. P, M. Cal- 
houn, Khoxville. R. Reese, Eatonton. Thomas 
Amis and David w. Patman, Lexington. Jona- 
than \eel, James Hollingsworth and Stephea 
Castellow, Macon. Charles P. Hansford, Union 
■Hill, John w. Turner, Pleasant Ml. Joshua 
Bowdoin, Alairsville. .las. M. Rockmore, Upatoie. 
P. H. Edwards, George/own. Win. Trice, Thon- 
aston. Ezra McCrary, Warrenton. Prior Lewis, 
Rodney. Tohn Lassetter, Vernon. B.Pace, Van Wert. 
L. Peacock, Cassville. V. D.Whatley, Barncsville. 
Alex. Garden and Thomas C. Trice, Mount Morne. 
Elias 0. Hawthorn, Bainbridgt J. G. wintring- 
ham, Florence. Wm. Mi Amos, GrcenviWe, Ran- 
dolph Arnold, Latimer's Utore. T. J. Bazemore, 
Clinton. Jo5.Stovall,.^!n'lli7. Jason Grier, Indian 
Spring?. VV,bb. : McElvy, JLttapulgus. Furnalvey» 
Milled '.rcville. Wm. Garrett, Tucker's Catin. Jesse 
Moore & John Hardie, trwinton. Leonard Pratt r 
Wlutcsville. Edward Jones, Decatur. A, Hen- 
don, Shi\o. A. G. Simmons, Hickory Grovet 
John Lavvhon, Chenuba. John Herington, WeL 
' bom's Mills, James Pi Ellis, PineviWe, V. Hacr- 
' gard, Mhcns. H. Bit ton, Jackson, A.M.Thompson, 
Fort Valley, .losiah Gresham, White Hall. Daniel 
I O'Neel, Fowl/on. John Applewhite, Waynctbnro' , 
\ .I.B.Morgan &. 13. V ,, Friendship . Sam'l Wil- 
! liams, Fair P lay. John Wayne, Cain's, R.S.Ham- 
; rick, Carrollton. DavidSmith,C»o/ Spring, Allison 
j Spear, Flat Skoals, Moses Daniel, Bowery. Moses 
i H. Denman, Marietta. Jamos Bush, Blakcly, 
A. Burroughs, Moore's X Roads, Samuel Hug- 
Asa Edwards, Houston, Richard Stephens, Ser.'n 



TlirversviUe, John Stroud, KendaW. Jamps Soar- 
borough, Statesborthgh, Oales, Mul- 
berry Grave. Robert R. Thompson, Scoltsvillc. 
Owen Smith, Tmupville. Kindred Bras well, 
Duncansville. Edmund Si Clianibless, Stalling* 
Store. James w. Walker, Marlborough. Edmund 
Dumas, JbhnstoinviWe. David Rpwell, Jr. Groo- 
vrrsviWe. Joel Colley, Coving/tin, . 1-Jonj imin C. 
Burns, Vi]]a Ricca, David Jones, Traveler's Rest. 
Wi B. Mullens, Rossvilk, Willis S. jarrell, 
Lumpkin. Thomas Everritt, Bristol. 

Alabama. — L. I!. Moseley, Cuhawba'. A. Kea- 
ton, Belmont. Benjamin Lloyd, La Fayette. Wi 
w. Carlisle, Freddnia'. Henry Dance. Daniel's 
Prairie. Wtn. w. Walker, Liberty Hill. Dan'l 
Gafford, Greenville. Samuel .Moore, Snow Hill. 
John G. Walker, Milton . M'y \\ illiams, Ha •ana. 
Jas. Daniel, Claiborne, Elias Daniel, ChiirchHill. 
John Bonds, Clinton, David Johnston, Leighfori. 
Adam McOreary, Brooklyn. Josiah Jones. Jack- 
ton. David Jacks, New Market. Slierrod w 
Harris, Vienna. John McQueen, Graves' Ferry, 
William Talley, Mount Moriaht Graddy Her- 
rino-, Clayton. G,w. Jeter, Pint Lata. Samuel 
Ci Sohnson iPl'.asanl Grove. W m. Crutch er,Hu>ds- 
ville. V\m> H. Cook and H'y Petty, Pwkensville. 
Seaborn Hamrick, Plan lersvi lie. James Si Mor- 
gan, Dayton. Wm. Hyde, Gainesville, Rufus 
Daniel, Jameston, Frederick Mines, Gaston, Z. 
Johns,7Wa. Eli McDonald, Pdirisilille. Wm. 
Powell, Youngsviile. John Brown, Witcooea, Silas 
Monk, Horse Shoe Bend, R. Lackey, Scraper. 
James F. Watson, Abbeville' David 'i'readvvell 
and R.w. C-Ar\\s\e, Mount Hickory. Joseph M.Hol- 
loway, H r tz\e Green. Jesse Lee, Farmers- 
ville. .William Qrtibbs, Louuville. Henry Ad- 
ams, Mount Willing. Joel fl. Chambless, Lowe- 
villc. Elliot Thomas, Williamston. F. Pickett, 
China Grovet James Grumbles, Benton. John 
M Pearson, DudeviWe. John D. Hoke, Jackson- 
ville, Elijah R. Berry, Cobb's Store, Willis 
Cox, Soukeehatchie. Hazael Littlefield, Ten Isl- 
ands: John w. Pellum, /'Va«kl/n. Philip May, 
Ifelmdnt, A. D. Cooper, WiWiamxtim; John 
Harrell, Missouri. James K. Jacks, Eliton. 
Henry Milliard, BeWville. John A. Miller, James 
Mays and James McCreless, Ockfuskee. Dnr- 
i,-. m Ixeliv. Alexandria, Josiah M. Lauderdale, 
ithens. William Thomas, Prospect linage, John 
Bishop, .Tun'r. Crocket tsti'A. James Cray, Cusc- 
ia Thomas L. Roberts, Monroevil I e. James Uil- 
dreth, Pleasant Plains. William Devlin, Gainer's 
Storri E. M. Amos, Midway, J. E. Albntton, 
Geneva; Joseph 11 oil oway, Activity. 

Tennessee. — Michael Burklialter, Uheeksville, 
Aaron Compton, Somerville. Asa Newport, 
Meesville. James Maulden, Van Baren. Solo- 
mon Ruth,- Wei/%. Wm. Croom, Jackson. Sion 
l5zss,Three Forks. John w. Springer, SugarCrcek. 
William S. Smith, Winchester. Thomas Hill, 
Sevierville. Thos. B. Yeates, Lynchburg. C.T. 
F-chols, Mifflin. Aaron Tfeon, Medon. George 
Turner' Waver'h/. Abner Steed, Mulberry, Henry 
Randolph, Sncdysville. Pleasant A. Witt, Cheek's 
X Roads. J. Cooper, Unionvitle. Michael Bran- 
son Lorn; Savannah, .las, 1 1 . Molloway, Ha:c\ 
Green William McBeej Old Town Creek, Ben- 
jamin 'w. Harget, Cherryvitir. Robert Gregory, 
Cumuth's X Roads. John Scallorn, Shady Giove, 
ffar d, Davis's M.lls. Evan Davis, Grape Spring, 

Mississippi.— Worsham Mann, Co/umhns. Wil- 
liam Huddleston, Thomtteton. Nathan Tuns, 

Kosciusko. Jonathan D. Cain. Walerford. Na- 
than Morris, Lexington. Charles Hodges; 
Cotton Gin Port. Bejamin E. Morris, WhccX- 
ing. Simpson Parks, LockhXtrt's Store. Mark 
Prewett, Aberdeen, William Ringo, Hamilton. 
.lamps M. Wilcox, Louisville. Edm'd Beeman 
and Thomas Mi Dixon, Macon. John Erwin, 
Linkk&rhe, Herbert D. Buckham, Pontotoc, Wil- 
liam Davis. Houston. Wm.H Warren, Dekalb. (). 
Nichols, Stump Bridge. Wooten Hill, CooksviDe , 
John Davidson, Carrollton. Thomas Mathews, 
Black Hawk, k, Botiers, Fullon. J. R. Guid- 
ing, Br.llfontaine, 

Florida. — James Alderman, China Hill. Da- 
vid Callaway, Cherry Lake. John F. Hagan, Mon- 
ticeUo. James Stokes, Millo.i, 

Louisiana. — Eli Headen, MarburyviUe. Thos< 
Paxton, Greensboro'. 

Missouri. — Joel Fergnson,./ac/r.svm 

Arkansas.— John Hart, Pine Wood, 

Illinois. — Richard M. Newport, Grand View, 
Thomas w. Martin, East Nelson. 

Indiana. — Peter Saltzman, New Harmony. I- 
saac w. Den man, GaUatin, 

Ohio. — Joseph H. Flint, Trenton. John B. 
Moses, Germantbn, 

Kentucky. — Levi B. Hunt, Manchester. Wash- 
ington Watts, Co'-ncliusviWe.. Levi Lancaster, 
Canton. James Molloway, .Fair Dealing. Dem- 
cey Burgess-, Salem, 

Virginia. — Rudolph Tlr,rer,Be?-ger's Store. John"' 
C]nrk, Fridericksbarg. Wm w. West, Dumfries.' 
William Burns, Halifax C, II, Jesse Lankford,' 
Bowers's, Elijah Hansbrough, SomerviWe. Wil- 
son Davenport, White House. Arthur w< Eanes,' 
EdgelnW. James B. Collins, Burnt Chimneys. . 

Pennsylvania. — Mezekiah West, South Hill. 
Joseph Hughes, Gum 'Tree. 

New York. — Gilbert Beebe, New Vernon. 

Massachusetts. — James Osboum, JVoburn,' 


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J. B. Woo.lai-d,- 2 
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Robert Gregory, 5 
John Cantcrberry,l 

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VOL. 6. 

SATURDAY, MARCH 27, 1811. 

No. 6. 

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Hunlsdille, Madison county . rfla \ 
Dec 27, IS40. s, 

Beloved brethren Editors: May 
grace and truth be multiplied through pur 
Lord uesiis Chris!, t he eternal Son of God, 
in whom is the eternal purpose of God, in 
the gift of eternal life; which is the enjoy- 
ment of God, in his infinite character, in 
infinite glory, in infinite space, by all the 
predestinated, called, sanctified, justified, 
and glorified saints of God. 

The clay is so cold, I decline going to 
meeting, and having some little business to 
write to the publisher, I conclude to write 

in if^ and but one missionary preacher; our 
religious community are mostly Presbyte- 
rians and Methodists, who have a great 
deal of preaching and religious excitement, 
but I have no comfort in ihem, f>r I nei- 
ther ca;i hi He\ e their doctrine nor practice; 
and when this is the case, how can I cum- 
forlably hope thai it is of the Lord. Ail my 
prepossessions of mind in a religious sense 
were for the Methodists, and I yet fiel 
much natural affection for that people; but 
it is a truth when I now hear them preach, 
and see their mode of worship, it fills me 
with mourning, and I feel truly sorry for 
ihem, and feet disposed to pray the Lord to 
open their eyes, and give them to see their 
delusions; for I am jealous for them with 
godly jealousy. 

1 think ! see an application of the truth 
of God's word delivered by Moses. The 
something for the Primitive, though very | scripture informs us that God led Israel 
unworthy to write for the benefit of my j through the wilderness by a cloud. Now 
brethren. And I have sometimes thought, that cloud certainly was a type of the Holy 
I never would write any more, then again I jGhosI, fur it was Israel's guide by day and 
fhink of the widow that cast in her miles, j by night. And no matter how long the 
which were accepted, because it was all cloud rested on the tabernacle, whether 
she had. The subject of religion is differ- one dav, one month, or one year, Israel 
ent from all other subjects, for the word j never moved until the cloud moved. This 
of God declares that it is a wicked servant, \ looks like God had a set time to favor Zi- 
that will not exercise one talent because he Ion. And how pitiful are ail these protract-' 
has not ten. It is what a man hath, and not led meetings to get up revivals, at the in- 
what he hath not, that is required of him; j stance of I he .will of men, to» fell God Al- 
and where much is given, much is requir-' mighty at the day of judgment, in thy 
ed. From these considerations, and the for- j name we have cast out devils, and in thy 
bearance of my brethren, 1 feel sometimes I name done many wonderful works. And 
encouraged to write". •• the Lord will say, I never knew you. Lut 

1 Five in a very lonesome situation, sep i Moses informs us, that the clout) at a cer- 
arated from any of my preaching brethren, 
IS to 30 miles, and but seldom 1 see them. 
There are but four Baptist preachers in 
Madison co'ty; one who lives in Tennessee, 
preaches mostly in this county. Lime- 
stone county has not one Baptist preacher 

lain lime resleil between Israel and the E- 
gyptians^& that! he: cloud next to Israel v^as 
light, and that the side of the cloud toward 
ihe liigypsians ivas darkness, and just so it 
is now. While the man that is born twice, 
the second time from above,, and therefore 


as the child of Gcd, enjoys Ihe light of 
God's Holy Spirit; the natural man has 
nothing but dark parables, th.-.t he can't un- 
derstand. For Paul says, the natural man 
receiveth not the things of the spirit of God, 
they are foolishness unto him, neither ean 
he know them because they are spiritually 
discerned. Therefore, Paul's doctrine of 
justification without the deeds of the law, 
is nonsense to them, they can't understand 
it; no matter how religious he may be, for 
all the views that a nominal professor can 
have of the system of grace is nothing but 
carnal reason, of which a great many saints 
may have a good deal, for we are yet 
subject to temptation through infirmity of 
the flesh. 

What did Tom Paine prove by writing 
against the Christian religion? Why 
prove he knew nothing of it. What did 
the Judiazing teachers prove by preaching 
circumcision? Why prove that they 
knew nothing of the gospel in the spirit, 
and therefore perverted the gospel, upon 
whom the curse of God must test. And 
so it is now. Let all those that believe that 
baptism came in the room of circumi- 
sion take heed. Paul says, that the law is 
not of faith, but the man that doeth them 
shall live in them. Now if the law is a tran- 
script of God's divine perfections, certainly 
no body but a poor carnal God maker, will 
ever think he can be justified by the deeds 
of the law. I had just as lieve undertake to 
make a God, as to make his attributes, or 
perfection; and the whole principle of God 
making, is nothing but a perfect rejection 
of the Saviour, and gross degradation and 
shame to mortals. I ask how the law acts 
on these circumstances, the giving of wa- 
ter out of a rock, bread from heaven, 
and the dividing of the Red Sea by the 
rod of Moses? My sense won't tell me, 
perhaps for the want of philosophy. But 1 
think Moses was a type of Christ as well as 
a Jewish lawgiver. 

Now while lam writing, I look at thy 
table, I look at the house, I look at the 
trees, I look at all temporal things, meats 
and drinks and carnal ordinances, and ask 
myself, if faith can act on these? I answer 
no, for my senses act on these; because faith 
is the evidence of things not seen, and acts 
on things invisible, out of the reach of 
the wise and prudent, and belongs to babes. 
And no wonder those that contend for such 
doctrine, should be thought madmen 
and fools, as the Saviour himself. But 
here is a subject of faith, the blood of Jesus 

Christ, shed 1800 yean age, should not? 
cleanse a sinner from his sins; here wit and 
reason fails; here all our prayers, tears, 
cries, la men tat ions, repentances, groans, and 
sorrows, can never reach: here is a revealed 
Saviour; here is the fruit of the Holy 
Ghost; here is water out of the rock, and 
bread from heaven. Now we eat the 
flesh of ihe son of man, and drink his blood, 
and live forever; by him we are killed. 
Mere is Ihe difference between a believer 
and a ceremonial worshipper; one has Jesus 
Christ revealed in him, the other has Jesus 
Christ revealed to him; one has another 
heart, like Saul, the other has a new heart; a 
new heart lives by faith, another heart lives 
because they don't know they are dead. 

Bear with me, 1 will touch one more 
case. The scripture says, there are three 
that bare witness in the earth, the spirit^ 
the water, and the blood; and these three' 
agree in one. For want of paper, 1 will 
take for granted, that these witnesses are 
in the kingdom of God in this world; 1 
then first introduce the Lord's supper, and 
say, here all societies agreein their testimo- 
ny, and witness the truth of the death of 
Christ; notice, bread and wine are used, spir- 
itual life given, through the blood of Christ, 
which cleanses from all sin. Next 1 intro- 
duce baptism. Now where, is the agree- 
ment in the witnesses? Be ye well assured, 
any man having a suit in court, if the wit- 
nesses cross each other, they destroy each 
other, and the man is left without any, and 
his suit lost. Now 1 ask, where is the 
proof of the death of Christ, in sprinkling? 
Was itcver known sprinkling killed any 
body? what part of sprinkling or pouring, 
refers to the death of Christ? Whose im- 
age and superscription hath it? And I 
now say this much, if any pcdobaplist 
ever reads this, ii is in good lectin g and 
prayer, that the Lord may make it a 
blessing to you. And then introduce 
the third witness, which is the whole Chi ia- 
tian conduct, and conversation. On this 
witness if! had time and space 1 might 
write a whole sheet. 

But I must be short. We should be care- 
ful in our conversation to express the faith 
of the Lord Jesus, say what he said about. 
his Father, himself, his ordinances, and 
his people; live free from the yoke of bond- 
age, ami be not entangled with Jewish rites 
and ceremonies; for the whole dispensation 
of sacrificing and offering was a proof, that 
Jesus had mat come in flash and hears the 
same witness yet; and never can tes'.ify 



any thing else, for Jesus milcd them to his 
cross. Therefore, all that Jesus done 
while he was in the world, was that the 
church might he saved; all that the true 
church does while she is in the world is 
because she is saved, and here is all the 
ground that 1 can see to maintain good 
works; forifour works are designed to save 
us, they reflect on the Lord Jesus, in the 
offering he made. 

But, beloved brethren, in view of the 
salvation of God, let me exhort you (hough 
unworthy, be careful to maintain good 
works, live honest and upright, be careful 
of usury, have doves eyes within your 
locks, both chaste and virtuous to the Lord; 
the dove has no gall, nothing bitter. Live 
in love and peace, and the God of love and 
peace will be with you, by his grace and 
spirit, and pity 3^011 as a. Father pitieth his 
own son that serveth him. My paper is 
full, I must say farewell. May ever- 
lasting consolation and good hope through 
grace be yours daily in Christ. 



Monlicello, Jefferson county, Florida, ) 
November 2S, 1840. \ and much beloved brethen: 
I for the first lime take my pen in hand to 
write for your valuable paper, the Primi- 
tive Baptist; as I believe it to be valuable 
to me and a good many others in this coun- 
try. 1 have received it this year, and I 
like it so well, that I want it again until me 
or it one alters. Fori believe it brings 
glad tidings of good news from a far coun-- 
try, tho' some do not like it, they say that 
it is filled up with errors. 1 believe this 
is, because it contains sound doctrine. Hut 
this, I think, makes me like it the belter. 
If I know what I am, I think I love to read 
the communications of my brethren; but 
sometimes I fear that I am deceived. But 
one thing I know, wherein 1 was once 
blind I now see. 

Dear brethren, I view myself as one that 
satin great darkness, and in the region and 
shadow of death; for I was about fifteen 
years of age before 1 heard a sermon deliv- 
ered out of a pulpit. But, dear brethren 
sometimes 1 feel that light is sprung up in 
my soul, for 1 love to hear God's ministers 
preach the everlasting gospel, and love to 
be with those that I believe have an order- 
ly walk and a godly conversation, and to 
talk with them, and try them. 1 as others 

have the old body of flesh, 50 prone to sin to 
encounter with, and cannot bring it in sub- 
jection, as I would wish; for sometimes I 
think, 0, that I could enter into battle and 
gain the victory at once, over that old sin- 
ful nature. And again, I think that I 
would get too proud. 

I think, my brethren, it best to have a 
thorn in the flesh. Paul says so, to buffet 
us. I believe the Lord works all things 
together for good to them that love God, to 
them that arc the called according to his pur- 
pose. But, dear brethren, does not that 
old sinful nature cause you to <ro mournin 2 
from time to time, because you cannot live 
as holy as you would wish to live? Yes, 
methinks you do; I think you say, O, that 
I could cease to do evil, and learn (o do 
well. But we are told that ye cannot do 
the things that ye would do, because of the 
infirmity of your flesh. And again, if Christ 
be in 3'ou, the body is dead because of sin; 
but the spirit is alive because of righteous- 
ness. But 0, brethren, I find myself so 
far from walking as a saint should, that it 
makes me often fear that I am mistaken; 
for we should let our conversation be as 
becomelh saints, but how far from this 
are a great many of us, that profess to know 
Christ. Have we all considered that when 
we put on Christ, by a profession, if we be 
not deceived that we are saints; there-* 
fore our conversation ought to be as becom- 
elh saints. 

Thus, my brethren, I view the saint's 
rest to be a glorious and happy place, and 
much to be desired by those that love God; 
because when the spirit has the victory over . 
the flesh, do you not desire much to live 
and die in that state? Yes, methinks ) t ou 
do, and think you will watch over the next 
evil? But alas! when all appears to be 
well, soon do we forget to watch. If this 
is not the case with you, it is with me. 
Therefore I enter into temptation. Christ 
says, watch and pray, that ye enter not in- 
to temptation; but the disciples could not 
watch one hour for tire enemy of Christ, 
but slept. 

Thus, my brethren, when I ought to be 
watching, I am as it were sleeping in spirit ; 
we have the enemy of our souls and bod- 
ies in this country, for we are hounded on 
one side with savages, and wickedness has 
grown to- a great size. The youth of our 
country have become exceeding sinfu', so 
i think saton is very much pleased; and the 
love of some appears to be waxing cold, bo- 
cause iniquity abounds. But this is only ful- 



filling the Saviour's language, that when in- J you, and deliver us out of our affliction. So 
iquity abounds, the love of many shall wax the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with 
cold; but blessed is he that shall endure unto 'you all. Amen. A 1 iy member in tri ba- 
the end-. I believe (he Lord's chosen i luiioii. SEABORN JONES. 

ones will endure unio the end, fos- i 'ly not J 

helieve that all the world, wren or devils, to editors piIimitive baptist. 

can ever cause Christ lo lose one of h's 
chosen ones, those that \'eie chosen of 
God in Christ Jesus, b t'.ie (he world was. 






Burnesvills, Monroe county , Ga. > 
January 29//), 1S41. S 
Di:Aii UKETiiRKN Editor*: Patron:: 


s.mis o! 


e ore unus 

nib. 1 bo 


These are 

But when ! set; a Baptist, as soon as he lias 

got to a grog lav i rn, si«|j in and call for a 

qua; t or' a hall pint, and call up !i,e people 

and to drink wij-h them, is this thi 

conversation that becometa saints-? 1 think 


Well, some will sav, don't voti do noth- 
ing but what becomeih saints. Ye.?, a great 
de^l; 1 let vexed sometimes with ihe tilings 
of this vvoild, and 1 get fretted: this tion't 
become a saint, this is when 1 had forgot- 
ten to watch; tlijs is that old body of sin j lion of iho word of the Lord. 1 have 
1 complain of, which makes me doubt my | never read a single page of Dr. Gill, Clark, 
being a saint. But this is no plea for (his 'Jones, nor no one else's works of diviniiv; 
evil or that, for this we see before us shall but 1 'nave learned some sweet and val- 
we not shun when we can, and put off th:: , uable lesions in the woods behind old logs. 
sin that so easily besets us; for ail muight- At eventide in the silent grove have I 
eousness is sin, and when we have done '■ visited sweet solitude, thai gentle queen of 
all, to render ourselves as unprofitable ser- i modest air and brow serene, in her secret 
vants to our Lord and master. So let as [ hiding [dace, and there taken lectures that I 

this communication will find you ail v-ell, 

i icidy abounding in pi at e owe with another;, 

&e. within your own souls, abounding in 

the union of the Holy Spirit, abounding 

; in :■■ 1 spiritual wisdom, abounding in love 

j and :■■ od works;. and above all, richly a- 

! bounding in the fulness of the blessing of 

| the gospel of Chi isf. 

Dear brethren, ! am going to offer you 
I a few of my scattering thoughts on a por- 

many of us as be of the day, watch and De 

Dear brethren, pray for 
and my family; pray for 
church to which I belong, 
we are in much coldness 


oiie.'i as 1 nave, 

hope never to forget. 
j freely give 1 unto yon. 
poor little itts j So i wiligivje you a few of my thoughts 
ihe poor little 'on. Luke, 1 3 e. 3 — 5 v. which nads thus; 
Elizabeth; for \ Except ye repent, ye shall all likewise per- 
1 sometimes j i-H. In connection with Matt. IS c. 3 v: 
fear we will not keep house, without limes j Verily I say unto you, except ye he con- 
alter, much longer. I therefore desire thfc! verted and become as little children, ve 
sincere prayers of the brethren, all over IheUjaall not-Wutr into the kingdom of heav- 
United States, that we may continue lo lie en. Now in order that we have a correct 
a living church and feel lhatthe presence of view of the subject under consideration, we 

the Lord is with us once more. 
think, my brethren, lhatbecaus 

mon 1 say pray for us, or that 1 don't b 
lieve that you pray for all the churches of 
G'od; I do believe thai you dp, but that you 

may remember our affliction and cease not 

Do not! will notice 1st, the speaker; 2mllv, what 

t is com- Igave lise to the words spoken; 3rdly, and 

to whom they were spoken. 1st,. These 

are the words of that character who spake 

with an hoi i!y, and not as the scribes. Mini 
that, spake as never man .-poke, liim of 

to make mention of us m your prayers, for j whom Moses in the law and prophets did 
I believe the effectual fervent prayers of j write — J e^us of Nazareth. 2nd. The cir- 
the people of God availeth much. For cu instance which. ga>ve rise to t ho words 
tbuasayeth the children of Israel to Samuel, | uruljg&' consideration was this: There were 
cease not lo cry unto trie Lord our God | present with Jesus at that time, "scribes and 
for us, that he will save us ool of the hands ] plmrisees, n ho told him (Jesus) of certain 
of the Philistines. First Samuel, 7 chap. Galileans, whpsc blood Pilate had mingled 
and S verse. And again, the flrh verse of j with their sacrifice*. And Jesus answer- 
the same chapl. Samuel era 
Lord for Israel, and tne Lord heard mm. 
Therefore cease uol. to ciy unto the Lord 
for us, perad venture the Lord will hear 

unto the ! e.l and said unto them, suppose ye thai these 
Galileans ijeere sinneis above all ihe Gali- 
leans, because they suffered such things? 
I tell you nay, except ye repent ye shall 



all likewise perish. Or Ihose eighteen 
men upon whom (he tower of Si loam felJ 
and slew them: think ye that they were 
sinners above all in-n that dwell in Jenrsa- 
lem? I (ell yon nay, except ye repent ye 
shall all likewise perish. 3rd. These 
words were spoken lo the unbelieving 
scribes and pharisees, doctors of the law 
and vain philosophers; and may he right- 
eously and truly applied to the unrenewed 
part of Adam's family, including the hosts 
of new lights, and ail the antichrislian 

4ihiy. Aliho'thetermconvirt or convicted 
isnotused in the language of our text, yet 
notwithstanding it •mphatically breathes 
that doctrine. Conviction for sin is a pre- 
paratory work, and leads to repentance; 
and as such, 1 shall set it down as the first 
stage or degree of repentance; widen im- 
plies an affecting sense that we are guilty 
before God, which produces genuine re- 
pentance unto life, which needeth not to be 

is unto life eternal, is the unmerited gift 
of God. Know ye not, that the goodness 
of God leadelh men to repentance. Rom. 
'2 c. 4 v. (Pause a little, my brethren.) 
while 1 bring up the rear. To convict or 
convince, is to pursuade one of the truth. 
Prove it, if you please. For he mightily 
(•" :aning Paul), convinced the Jews, and 
that publicly, showing by the scriptures 
that Jesus was Christ. This is the work 
of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit ap- 
plies the law lo the conscience with all its 
rigorous, inflexible, stern commands; de- 
manding of the sinner a perfect and sinless 
obedience in all things. Yea, demands his 
life and says, cut him down as a cumberef 
of the ground. 

Thus the Holy Spirit convinces him of 
sin, of all i;s baneful and horrible influences 
and awful consequences. Yes, sir, the 
Holy Spirit shows him the exceeding sin- 
fulness cf sin, and also that the wages of 
sin is death: which produce evangelical 

repented of. 5lhly. Except ye repent, . repentance, sorrow for sin, because of 
ye shall ail likewise peris!), &c. Repent- 
ance implies sorrow for sin ; a godly sor- 
row, which God alone can produce in the 
heart; & godly sorrow workeih repentance 
unto salvation not to be repented of. 6ih!y. 
Except ye be converted, and become as 
little children, ye cannot enter into the 
kingdom of heaven. Converted or con- 
version signifies a turning from one princi- 
ple or manner of life to another. This term 
seems to present two very sirikingfeatures; 
1st, the word in the gospel signifies the 
entire change which godliness or m Oliver 
words grace produces in the disposition, 
principles and behavior; without this 
change, we cannot enter the Kingdom ©i 


2nd I 

Convei sion 


cleansing and healing, which 1 will prove 
in time and place. 

7th. Lastly, but not least. Become as 
little children, &c. This clearly shows, 
that grace is a levelling plan, & that all her 
subjects shali be brought down into the 
low grounds of humility, and taught their 
dependence on God. In a word, they 
are as dependent on him for life and salva- 
tion, nay, for ali things, both temporal and 
spiritual, as the little child is on the mother 
for support. 

Dear brethren, I have laid down my 
rule, and set my figures to work b\ ; so i 
shall proceed to offer you such, views and 
thoughts as I think God has given me. 
Except ye repent, ye shall ali likewise per- 
ish. True and genuine repentance, which 

sin a godly sorrow, which worketh repen- 
tance unto salvation. This is genuine, 
evangelical repentance. The truth con- 
vinces men of sin, (i. e.) gospel truth, and 
carries the barbed arrows of converting 
grace to the heart; which produces repen- 
tance, sorrow for sin, mourning because of 
sin, and an earnest desire for deliverance 
from sin. All this is wrought by the Ho- 
ly Spirit. 

You recollect that I remarked, that re- 
pentance was the gift of God. Yes, sir, 
the free, unmerited gift of Jehovah; for the 
goodness of God leadelh men lo repentance. 
God begins the work, and where He hath 
Begun a good work, he will perfect i'. 
I'Hft to return a little. 1 said th t convic- 
tion, true, genuine, evangelical, saving 
conviction, was the first stage or degree of 
repentance, and implied an affecting sense 
that we are guilty before God, and can do 
nothing of ourselves lo gain his favor; and 
that we deserve and are exposed to the 
wrath of a sin avenging God. Thus tha 
Spirit powerfully applies the law to the sin- 
ner's heart, which works repentance unto 


Except ye repent, ye shall all likewise 
perish. Thus are the arrows of convict- 
ing grace fastened in IliC heart as a nail, 
(I reckon, brethren, that thai will do to 
call a gospel nail,) fastened in a .'ure place 
by the master cf assemblies. Mark that 
word, fastened in a sure place by the master, 
&.c. Fastened in the heart, in a sure 



place. God hath taken hold of the heart, 
there he begins his work by fastening the 
nail of conviction in it; which extorts cries 
like this: The arrows of the Almighty 
God are within me. Job, 6 c. 4 v. This 
corresponds with the nail fastened in a sure 
place. The arrows of Almighty God are 
within me; the barbed arrows of keen, 
heart-piercing conviction are fastened with- 
in me, by the master of assemblies; fasten- 
ed iria sure place. Yes, brethren, when the 
barbed arrows of keen, piercing, heart-felt, 
convicting grace are fastened in the heart 
by the master of assemblies, it is safe, be- 
cause it is fastened in a sure place; it is so 
fast, that the devil with his claw hammer 
cannot draw it out, (pardon my drawling.) 
Let me metaphorise a little on the nail. 
Suppose you drive a nail through a four 
inch beam of well seasoned hickory timber, 
and clinch it on the other side, I ask the 
question, could you draw it out? No, sir, 
you might work till you were tired; you 
might pull and tug, wring and twist, until 
you wrung the head oDT, but the nail would 
still be in the beam, fast enough. Just so 
with the gospel nail, when fastened by the 
master ©f assemblies. The devil may try 
in vain to draw it out, and tell the poor 
creature a thousand lies, but it all avails 
nothing; God has begun the work, and will 
carry it on in spite of wicked men and de- 

I will close this communication, by sub- 
scribing myself yours in hope of eternal 

age and nation. Hence we read of the 
general assembly, and the church of the 
first born, and of the church which Christ 
loved and purchased with his blood. Acts, 
20 and 28. In its more confined accepta- 
tion, it means a congregation of professing 
Christians, meeting for worship in one 
place. Hence we read of the church at Cor- 
inth, of the Thessalonians, of Ephesus, &c 
These are the only two senses in which the 
word is ever employed by the sacred wri- 
ters; consequently, all provincial and na- 
tional churches, or in other words to call 
the people of a province or nation a church 
of Christ, is a most gross perversion of the 
term, and rendering the kingdom of Jesus 
more a matter of geography than of reli- 

The sacred writers, when speaking of 
the Christians of a whole province, never 
imply the term in the singular number; 
but wilh great precision of language speak 
of the churches of Galatia, Syria, Macedo- 
nia, Asia, &c. A church of Christ, then, 
in the later and more usual acceptation of 
the term, means a number of professing 
Christians united to each other by their 
own voluntary consent, having their prop- 
er officers, uniting in one place for the eb- 
scrvanca of religious ordinances, and who 
are independent of all other control than 
the authority of Christ expressed in his 
word. This company of professing Chris- 
tians may be few or many in number, rich 
or poor in their circumstances, and may 

life which God that .cannot lie, promised | unite either in a mean or magnificent buil 
before the world began. Farewell for a 
night or two, when if God will, you shall 
hear from me again 



Salem, Iitisse.1 courtly, Jila. ~) 
Sip/ember 1, 1840. } 

Dear brethren Editors: Having had 
it en my mind to give you some of my 
scattering thoughts on the church of Christ, 
1 shall ask the question and give you my 
views on it. 

What is a Christian church? The word 
church signifies an assembly. In she New 
Testament it applies to person*, not to pla- 
ces; it means not the building in which the 
assembly is convened, but the assembly it- 
self. It has an enlarged and also a mare 
.confined signification, in the word of God. 
In some places it is employed to compre- 
hend the aggrcgauj of believers of evciy 

ding, or in no building at all. Those 
things are pure inventions, for provided 
they answer to the above definition, they 
are still to all intents and purposes a church 
of Christ. 

The members of the church should be 
such as make a credible profession of their 
faith in Christ, or in other words, such as 
appear to be regenerated by the spirit of 
God, to have believed in the Lord Jesus for 
salvation, and to have submitted them- 
selves in their conduct to the authority of 
his word. To these the head of the church 
has limited the privileges of his kingdom. 
They alone can enjoy its blessings, and 
perform its duties, and to such the Epistles 
?re uniformly addressed. Read Romans, 
&c. First Corinth. If these passages are 
read, it will be found that the members of 
the first churches are not merely admonish- 
ed to he saints, but a;e addressed as such; 
which is a circumstance of great weight in 
determining the question about the proper 



subjects of fellowship. But who is lo judge 
in this case? I answer, the church. For 
although no instance can be brought from 
the New Testament, in which any one of 
the Primitive churches can be proved to 
have exercised this power, yet as it is a 
voluntary society, founded on the princi- 
ple of mutual affection, it seems reasonable 
that the church should judge of the exist- 
ence of those qualifications, which are ne- 
cessary to the enjoyment of communion. 
The very act of obtruding upon them any 
one without their own consent, whether 
by a minister or by Elders, is destructive 
of one purpose of Christian association, i.e. 
the fellowship of the brethren. Nor is the 
power of searching the heart requisite for 
those who exercise the right of admitting 
others, since we are to judge of each other 
by outward conduct. This company of 
professing Christians must meet in one 
place for the observance of religious insti- 
tutions. A society that cannot associate, 
an assembly that cannot assemble, are per- 
fect solecisms. 

A church of Christ has its scriptural of- 
ficers. Here two questions arise. First, 
how many kinds of officers does the New 
Testament mention? Secondly, how are 
they to be chosen? As to the kinds of of- 
fice bearers in the Primitive churches, 
there can be neither doubt nor difficulty 
with any one who will impartially consult 
the word of God. Me has instituted but 
two kinds of permanent officers in his 
church, bishops and deacons; the former to 
attend to its spiritual affairs, and the latter' 
to direct its temporal concerns. That 
there were but two is evident, because we . 
have no information concerning the choice 
or duty of any other. The bishops of the ! 
Primitive churches correspond with the: 
pastors of modern ones. The bishop, el- j 
der, and pastor, are only different terms for I 
the same office, as is evident from Acts, 20. j 
17, compared with the 28; and Titus, 5. | 
7; and 1st Peter, 5. 12. They are called 
bishops, which signifies overseers, because 
they overlook the spiritual concerns and 
watch for the souls of their brethren. Acts, 
20. 28. First Timothy. Pastors or shep- 
herds, because they feed the flock of God 
with truth. Ephes. 4. 2. Rulers, because 
they guide the church. Heb. 13. 7. El- 
ders, because of their age, supposed. Titus, 
1. 5. Ministers, because they are the ser- 
vants of Christ and the gospel. The dea- 
cons are appointed to receive and distri- 
bute the things that belong to the church. 

All other kinds of officers than these two, 
are the inventions of men and not the ap- 
pointment ofChrist. 

On the mode of electing them to their 
office, the scripture will justify the practice. 
If the Acts of the apostles were studied, we 
should find that nothing was clone in the 
Primitive churches without the co-opera- 
tion of the members; not even when the 
apostles were present. And as the decrees 
were past in Jerusalem by them, and went 
forth with their names, we shall say by the 
voice of the church. A Christian church 
with its office bearers is complete within 
itself, for the observance of divine ordinan- 
ces and the exercise of discipline; and is 
subject to no authority or tribunal on earth. 
Such a church is bound by the authority of 
Christ in their associated capacity to ob- 
serve all the institutes, to obey all the com- 
mands, and to cherish all the dispositions 
which relate to their social union, in the 
order and manner they are enjoined by- 
Christ Jesus. 

Such, in my view, is a very concise view 
of the nature of a Christian church. And 
now I say, away with that morbid insensi- 
bility which exclaims, it is of no conse- 
quence to what church or denomination a 
man belongs, provided he be a Christian. 
Such a spirit is a conspiracy against the 
throne of truth, and is one step towards a 
complete abandonment of the importance 
of right sentiments in the temple of truth. 
Not only the foundation is to be valued and 
defended, but every point and every pin- 
nacle. Then do our sentiments appearand 
look like gems set in gold, when they are 
supported by a spirit of Christian love. O, 
divine 1 >ve, the sweet harmony of souls, 
the music of angels, the joy of God's own 
heart, the very darling of his bosom, the 
source of true happiness. 

Brethren, I must conclude: for the more 
I write, the more I want to. But just suf- 
fer me before I quit to say to you, that I 
want my papers continued as 1 dearly love 
to read them and to hear from Old School 
brethren, how they are wielding the sword 
of truth and contending for the faith. Be- 
sides, I think this little Primitive does 
more good than any other periodical in the 
United States. So 1 conclude by saying, 
I remain yours in the bonds of love. 


Innocence confers ease and freedom on 
the mind, and leaves it open to every 
pleasing sensation. 






Columbia, N. C, Feb, 27/A, 1841, 
Dsar Brethren: Having closed my few re- 
marks with my much esteemed friend Howard, 
who stands as an organ for God's children to speak 
through to the great comfort and consolation of 
each other, and that to ihe building up (he broken 
altars that weie broken down by the prophets of 
Baal; seeing of these things, my Christian breth- 
ren, in the Primitive Baptist, it revives my poor 
drooping spirits, and I can say of a truth, our God 
is not a sleepy God, neither doth he delay his com-* 
*ng, as Elijah sailh unto them. But, brethren, 
the eyes of the Lord are over the righteous, and 
his ears open to their cries. Therefore, my dear 
brethren, be not sparing of crying to the Lord, 
for a poor sin-defiled and polluted world. 

For, brethren, the first thing that brought roe to 
think of a future life, was the prayers of an old 
man who was thought to be a bad man, who re 
quested me to go home with him. I refused. 
The next day I heard that he prayed for me that 
night, while 1 was on the dancing floor. This began 
to shock m«, to think he should pray for me and I 
not for myself. I flew to the Methodists, and imme- 
diately became their class lender. They told me 
I was a Christian, but I doubted it so much, that I 
never communed with them at all, though a mem- 
ber for the rise of six years. Although, my dear 
brethren, it has been about eighteen years ago, 
well do I remember the day and hour of 12 o'clock, 
that I was meditating on the state of the ungodly, 
that died without an interest in the blood of a 
Redeemen Then it was conveyed to me with 
power, that I was condemned alreadyi I stuck 
down my hoe, being alone, 1 was ready and will- 
ing to say, Amen, to my condemnation; for of all 
men I was the most miserable. Before that, 1 
thought I was a praying character, but here 1 saw 
my prayers were swift witnesses against me; 
for they were introduced in point of merit, insU ad 
of paint of dntyi 

While in thisngeny, my parents blew the din- 
ner horn for me, I first thought 1 would not go. 
Second thought, if I did not go, they would come 
to see what was the matter wiili me; and 1 did 
not want to put any person on earth to any trouble, 
fori never expected to eat any thing more in titis 
life. For hell was my portion, ai.d 1 was made 
willing to take up toy abode with devils, where 
it is said, the worm dieth not and the fire is not 
quenched. Therefore, my dear brethren, 1 started 
feo*jB« in this agony, and having to pass through 

some woods, a voice wrung through my head, to 
goon my knees and pray. 1 instantly fell on my 
knees and tried to pray. How loud I uttered my 
voice 1 do not know, but 1 thought my voice was 
not heard above my headi But, brethren, in a 
short space my lon<rue was loosed, I thought the 
echo of my voice wrung in heaven, while a voice 
wrung through my head most loudly and shrill, 
thy sins be forgiven thee. Here I lack language 
to express my joy, I prayed, I praised, I sung, 
and that almost all at Ihe same lime. 

Brethren, I should he glad to tell you how the 
devil took the advantage of me to keep me out of 
the church, from family prayer, and many other 
cases; but have nu room. So farewell for the 
present. ISJJ.C MEEKINS* 


Tcayscn' Valley, Virginia, ~> 
Feb. 15, 1S41. 5 

Dear Editors: I have got hold of one 
of your papers by a friend, and have peru- 
sed them with care and find they describe 
ihe old path as nigh as I ever seen one in 
my life; only in one part I think is left ra- 
ther hard to be understood, though I think 
I understand the brother's meaning, where 
he speaks of the doctrine of unconditional 
election and reprobation. For the benefit 
of weak minds I should like for it to be 
more explained, suitable to the capacity of 
the weak mind. You that are strong ought 
to boat the infirmities of the weak, and not 
lo please yoursejves. Strong meat belongs 
to men ol strong minds, and babes must be 
fed on milk, the sincere milk of the word, 
that they may grow and thrive thereby. 
Paul says, he had rather speak five words 
with his understanding, than ten thousand 
words in an unmeaning tongue. Peter 
says, Paul wrote some things hard to be 

1 am a member of the Pocatalico Asso- 
ciation. We hove been separaled from the 
Teayses' Valley Association about four 
years, and ate about 300 strong. W e have 
had a Smart increase in four years, but we 
are weak in the minisry. We have only 
five ordained preachers among us, but we 
are in peace among ourselves, but are like 
iambs among wolves; we are surrounded 
with the missionaries on every side, and 
and are often solicited to forsake Ihe good 
old way, but we feel more uhvvilling as the 
day approaches. The money system is at 
a low ebb in litis country. 

We are glad lo hear of our brethren at a 
distance, and to hear that they are earnest- 



ly contending fur tie faith once delivered 
to the faints". We woiild be g-Jad to corras- 
pond with you. and toh?ar from you often, 
as we ore weak ia the ministry* VS e wan' 

Our Association will commence on the 
Saturday before (he third S&bbnlh in Au 

gust next, at the 


Undersoil C. PI. Snath Carolina, 
Feb. Is/, 1841. 
Dear BitryrffrtEN EniTons: And rea- 
ders of i he iVimitivc Baptist. This is tfie 
[first time I kci' have wrote for publication 
in vonr paper. i have been a regular rea- 
der of ll e Piimyive for three year's and a 
half, in which i have found a vast store of 
very r( cations. And in 
the course of which time, 1 have often been 
| impressed to mingle my pen with thewor- 

iy writers in y< nr co'-nmns; though ■>'<"'•• 

a sense of my inabiiilv ! have forborne. 

Dear brethren, I might scud you a vol- 
ume filled with a description oT our difficul- 
ties with the society folks; bit! suffice it to 
say, we have waded through similar con- 
flict* to that which wc find to have boon 
common with our brethren and sisters in 
every direction in these United States. 

Though, as 1 have said, 1 have often 
thought of writing, so I commence under 
the encouragement of Elder Bigg>'s re- 
nin st. He advises his brethren, in the 1st 
No (5th Vol. and 0th page of the ITimi- 

experience of 




to relah 


grace to each other through this happy me- 

et i u m . 

eayses' vatrey mcennj 

house, in Cabell county, Vn., and we wis! 

you would send ns some help in the min- 
istry on that day, as we expect to be sur 

rounded with 1 1- e moral institutions fit tin 

clay, as it will be h< Id in a very popntai 

pait of the world. 1 hope there wi I be 

home brother that will feel himself ?o much 

interested in the good cause, as to visit us; 

and we can only promise him a visit again 

by some of our brethren in the- gii-nisjry, 

to pay him for his trip. The Association 

would be overjoyed to see one or more oi 

cur strong brethren it; the meeting ground 

on the day of our annual meeting. You 

will please make some intercession, for us 

among the ministering brethren in the cir- 
cle of your acquaintance, and gel someone 

or more to come and visit us. ! think it 
would not be labor in vain, hut believe they 
would be well paid for their nip and will 
be received with Christim fi iendship in 
the Lord. I hope you-will use your influ- 
ence as much as you can w ith cbnveniencc, , 
as we wish to obtain help in particular at : 
this meeting above mentioned: 

Dear brethren in the Lord, the time is j 
not far hence, when conn n.ion shall cease 
and all controversy shall cease; when the 
toils of this life shall cease, when the king- 
doms of this world shall become the king- 
doms of our God and of his Christ. But 
while we are in this vale of tears, we are 
ofien assailed by the enemy of our souls, 
and should be often carried about by every 
wind of doctrine was it not for that blessed 
hope as an anchor to the soul most sine and 
gtedfast, that enters into that within the Christ a:- 
vail, where our forerunner is gone. My Hut oh, my brethren, when I think of 
soul is made to rejoice when I can hear of telling you my experience, 1 hardly know 
faithfnl soldiers of the cross, matching in : how to begin; for it has ofien been sugges- 
the good old way; for there at e so many 1 ted to me, that I am a poor deluded mortal, 
ways pointed out, and from the old path yet I think I can say, that I have been 
that was trod b}' the Saviour and his apos- ! made sen#ible of my slate by nature as be- 
tles, that it becomes the Christian to watch ing far from God. And I think I saw that 
and pray lest he should be drawn away and evidently in the tenth year of my age. 
enticed to go in tiie forbidden paths of vice And 1 think i saw the justice of God in the 
and folly, and so pierce himself through separation of the precious from the vile at 
with many sorrows. i his bar in the uzy of judgment. And find- 

1 now must come to a close by subscri- '• ing myfelf so unholy that 1 thought 1 could 
bing myself your unworthy htother in j almost hear him pronounce, Depart, and 
Christ."' JOHN CANTERBERRY. [that sentence directed to me. For my 

W hen 1 tead. this pai t of that old 
s letti r. a thought crossed my mind 
is it indeed so, that the well of water that 
Christ causes to spring up in the souls of 
his children, continue to be refreshing to 
the spiri's of those who have almost climb> 

cd to I ore ycat 

in this {.tie 



brethren, 1 think that rich b'hssing not on- 
ly continues to old ace, but remains to be 
living water to the saints of God when this 
body is dying; yea, and after death, and to 
the ceaseless ag'S of eternity. Then, 
brethren and sisurs, let us speak oft one 
to another of the glorious riches of God's 
grace, and of the free gift of the blood of 
an atoning sacrifice for our sins. 



conscience also condemned mr, though 1 
being young I strove to stifle thus ■ thought- 
and brjve it off; which I somewhat suc- 
ceeded in, though not entirely, until 1 
Ihink in the 17ih year of my ngp, I beenme 
again much alarmed at my situation, lor I 
had all that time been adding sins lo sins. 
I often tried to pray that God would have 
mercy on me. Sometimes I thought the 
day ol grace was gone front me, but my 
prayer was. that 1 might he assured that 
the wrath of God was appeased, and he re- 
conciled with me; hut I could not see how 
he could he just, and save such a sinner as 
I was. 1 thought 1 felt, myself going into 
a slate of delirium, and I really thought 
that every body that saw me Knew it: 
which oflen made me secretly relit e to mv- 
sell in solitude, fur my earthly comforts 
were forever gone, (;is I thought;) and to 
hope for happiness after death ! could not, 
for 1 read that nothing unholy could dwell 
with God. 

Till at length I remember well, on one; 
beautiful afternoon, 1 think in the month of 
September, as 1 was pulling fodder, nil na- 
ture appeared on a sudden to my behold- 
ing eyes wearing a new aspect. Joy I 
sprang into my heart while tears flowed 
from my eyes. All was pence, and my! 
love lo every creature was inexpressible. I 
opened my mouth io call !o my father, (forj 
he was insight of me,) to pi aise God; hut; 
befoie I spolce this reflection fell on my! 
mind — if 1 speak to my father, he wil 
know I am deranged; so I forbore .'peak 

in Pi- 
Brethren, I do not think it entered my j 
mind at that time, that this was conver- j 
sion; and although I found my situation to, 
be changed from what it was, 1 could not; 
own myself a child of grace. And as my; 
limits will not admit of my telling 3-ou j 
much of my next, twelve years' experi- 
ence, (for it was almost that length of time 
before I made known 1o any person what 
had past on me;) in which time I heard ma- 
ny able ministers of the gospel preach, and 
when they treated on the travel of the con- 
trite sinner, 1 could witness it. But when 
they spnke of culling off from the old stock 
and grafting into the new, I thought that 
did not suit me; for I found there was so 
much of the nature of the old stock in me, 
that 1 could not own the new ingrafting. 

But 1 finally related some of the outlines 
of my travel to the church, and was recei- 
ved and baptised in June, 1821. And al- 
though 1 hare been a member for almost 

t ■■verity years, yet I find much depravity 
about me; and 1 believe if I am saved at 
all, it will be a sinner saved by the grace 
nm\ mercy of God alone. that we all 
may he made willing and obedient subjects 
of God's grace, is my prayer for Christ's 
sake. Amen. 

I subscribe myself a Primitive Baptist 
and unworthy deacon of S;dem church. 

P. S. Salem church is a member of a 
newly constituted Association, known by 

the name of the Fork Shoal Association; 
and one article of its constitution reads as 


"V\e believe ihe Baplist State Conven- 
tion, with all her train of kindred institu- 
tions, are unscriptural and cannot be sup- 
plied from the word of the Lord, and 
therefore have no fellowship for them; and 
no question relative thereto shall be intro- 
duced or discussed in this Association." 

And our next Association will be held at 
Salem m. h., six miles n. w. of Anderson, 
C, II. So. Ca. on Saturday before the first 
Sabbath in October next; and we earnestly 
desire 10 see some 0/ our ministering breth- 
ren at our Association, for the most of the 
preachers in this section have gone off with 
the effort party, while we as a feeble band 
greatly need the assistance of preachers 
clothed in the strength of Christ. So fare- 
well for this time. D. G. 

Hickory Grove. Bibb coiutty, Ga. ? 
January Is/, 1841. 3 


Old School okdeu: I have again taken 
my pen in hand to let you know, that 
through the kind providence of God our 
heavenly Father, I still remain in the land 
of the living. And as we learn from holy 
writ that those that feared the Lord spake 
often one to another, and we learn that the 
Lord hearkened and heard, and a book of 
remembrance was written for them that 
feared ihe Lord, or that thought upon his 
name; ibis, my brethren, is encourage- 
ment for us to go on to seek to know the 
Lord, and to practice what we know. 

Now, brethren, I will offer you a few of 
my scattering thoughts on the goodness of 
God, and his sovereignly in the creation 
of the world. Now, my brethren, God 
Almighty, the great sovereign, and first 
cause of all things, had the unquestionable 
right to make just such a world as he plea- 



seel; and all tilings else, according to his 
own will. Now man w;is the last of the 
creation, and the Lord God formed man of 
the dust of the ground, and breathed into 
his nostrils live breath of life and man be- 
came a living soul. In the likeness of 
God made he him, male and female crea- 
ted he them, and blessed them and called 
their name Adam, &c. 

Now, brethren, God had the undoubted 
right to give his creature man a law lor a 
rule of life, and to annex the penalty of 
death to the violation of that law. Now 
God. put Adam into the garden of Eden, 
winch he had planted with all manner of 
fruit trees which was good for food, and 
told him that ho might eat free!}'. Lut of 
the tree of the knowledge of good and evil 
thou shalt not cat of it : for in the day that 
thou ealest thereof thou shalt surely die. 
Now, brethren, it seems like this was a ve- 
' ry reasonable law. Now we learn that the 
serpent was more subtle than any beast of 
the field, and in the absence of Adam 
tempted Eve to eat the foi bidden fruit. 
Now, brethren, it looks like the woman 
ought to have been able to have withstood 
the temptation; but we see she was not, for 
the great thirst to be wise, and to be as 
gods knowing good and evil, overcame her 
strength. Now we do not learn that the 
serpent ever offered any temptation to Ad- 
am, for he knew that the surest chance was 
to begin on the weakest side; therefore he 
undertook with the woman first and suc- 
ceeded, (the woman being the weaker 
vessel.) Now he retires well pleased to 
think that he bad ruined this happy pair, 
and fully believing now that Eve would be 
a greater temptation to Adam than he or all 
his infernal crew could possibly throw in 
his way. And now it appears that Adam 
was not able to withstand this great temp- 
tation. He saw now (hat the happy union 
heretofore existing between him and his 
wife was now broken, and the temptation 
was :0 great that he was not able to wilh- 
stand it. No doubt but Adam had serious 
thoughts of forbearance, but all to no pur- 
pose; the temptation was so strong that he 
lost all power to withstand it, and partook 
of the forbidden fruit from the hand of his 

Now, brethren, I hive heard it said from 
the pulpit and the piess, that Adam was 
made able to stand, but subject, or liable 
to fall. Now this I never could believe, 
for if we are made able to do a certain 
piece of work, or a certain thing, and we 

know performing that will be to our ever- 
lasting advantage, and we know if we fail 
to perform this, that death is our portion, 
we are just as sine to do it as we live; and 
especially v\ hen this was a very easy thing, 
\o forbear eating of a certain tree when 
there was a plenty of fruit without it. 
Now perhaps some will say, by this your 
idea yon make? God the author of sin. By 
no means, for the devil is the author of sin; 
and if there had been no temp'ation to be- 
guile Eve, she would not have violated the 
command of God. 

Now, brethren, in our absence if our 
wives contract a deb!, or violate a known 
law of the land, we of course are accounta- 
ble for their conduct. Now Adam no 
doubt felt his accountability for his wife's 
conduct. Now there was but oneway for 
Adam ever to unite with his wife again, 
for she could not undo what she had done 
and come to him; his only chance now for 
a re-union was to paitake of the forbidden 
fruit and go to her. And Paul says, and so 
it is written, the first man Adam was made 
a living soul, the last Adam was made a 
quickning spirit: he says the first man was 
of the < arih, earth)'; but the second was 
i he Lord from heaven. Now we see the 
great contrast between the two, and so 
high as the heavens above ihe earth was 
the last Adam above the first; for he was 
able to stand and withstand all the firey 
darts and temptations of the devil, and to 
make a complete atonement for the sins of 
his chosen people, that they might be justi- 
fied from all things, by which they could 
not by the law of Moses. 

Now a word or 




two to our enquiring 

1 el ess. 

Now, my friend, man 
is not what he was when created; for God 
made him in his own image, but man vio- 
lated God's law and ft 11 under its curse, 
and is already condemned; So then it is 
not of him that willeth, nor of him that 
runneth, but of God that shewelh mercy. 
Halh not the potter power over the clay, of 
the same lump to make one vessel unto 
honor and another unto dishonor? Read 
the 9th chapter of Paul to the Romans. 
Now for instance we will say that you 
have predetermined to build you a house, 
you own the land and all the trees upon it, 
will you not go and lake such trees as you 
please to make this building, and leave 
such as you think are so crooked that they 
won't do? Now are you unjust, because 
you did not take these ugly crooked trees? 
no, by no means. Well, then, it is by 



grace vve nva savvd through faj h, and that 
not of o irseives, it is the gifi of 'J'od; not 
of works, lest any man should boa*t. An ' 
I am truly g!ad I Hal il is no! -if work-, for i! 
it was, we should hear a mighty boast inij; 
and we hear enough of i- 1 already for our 
world is full of strong large rtien, doina 
large Work and wanting to gel largo money 
for their large work. i sh ill next offer vou 
some po( try. 

T/ic first and second Adam. 

Adam 1 re first was made of earth, 
The second was of heavenly birth; 
In Adam's fall we al! did sin 
And as we grow we soon begin. 

In the first Adam all did dip, 
The second Adam brings us niuh; 
So we come forth to life again, 
From sin and Satan's heavy chain, 

God knew that Adam would, not slay, 
Nor keep his law from day to day; 
Appoints the second to fulfil 
All things according to his will. 

In Adam then we all did die, 
But Christ the Saviour from on high; 
A quiekniug spirit he. was made, 
To raise us sinners from the dead. 

Adam the first a type was made. 
Of Christ the church's glorious brad; 
On him, the church is firml y built, 
And sav'd from death and sin and gui!t< 

The little righteous few did stay, 

Safe in the ark from day today; 

Whilst the wine world was lost and drown'd, 

And not a living sou! was found. 

In Christ, our ark we saf ly hide, 
In him alone vve all confide; 
In him alone vve all are blest, 
Me is the Lord our righteousness. 

On Christ our rods we firmly stand, 
Upheld by his all-powerful hand; 
Nor death nor hell Can ne'er remove 
His chosen children from his love. 

Elect and precious in his eye, 
He laid his robes of glory by; 
Descends to earth our debts to pay, 
And guide us in the narrow wayi 

To bring us sinful rebels nigh, 
He on the cross was lifted high; 
Amazing love how rich, how free, 
That Christ should die for such as wo. 
We now a building firm and fair, 
Of lively stones we do appear; 
This spiritual house doth firmly stand, 
The bulwark of our native land. 
Now let ns watch as well as pray, 
And bear the cross from day today; 
That we may worthy prove to see, 
The saints in full prosperity. 

And now, my brethren, time and space 
warns me that I must desist for the present. 
So farewell in the J^ord. 



La Fayette, Gh timbers en Ala. > 
March IS/ A', ls-n. ^ 

Dear BitK-rrtHKN: Please to publish the 
following n nice in voar paper, and oblige 
yo irs in ihe b mds of the gospel, &c. 

I hereby give n-aiiee to the Primitive 
B ipd'st church and ihe public in general, 
lhai I hare mule pftdinTJha'ry arrangements 
for the publication of .a Hymn Book adapt- 
ed to tho use of the Old School Baptists, 
arid all who are friendly to the promotion 
ol l ho' 11 aleeovr's cuise. The Hymns 
will be classified jgnrd embodied under ap- 
propriate heads, Jwapled to singing on all 
decisions. And in presenting the contem- 
plated work to the public, ! do not expect 
t) excel otii ts who have made similar 
publications; but that duly has lor some 
lime rested with w. ight on my mind, see- 
ing that no one of the Primitive denomin- 
ation had stepped forward, as well as a dis- 
position to gra ify and yield to the solic-i'ta- 
tionsofmy brethren, who seemed to be 
impressed with ihe importance and utility 
of such a work. 

And in addition to the foregoing I would 

add, that 1 am not like one of whom 1 have 

an account, who was about to enter upon 

'nty of publishing a certain 



book; he wished to have assurances that if 
his production was not acceptable to the 
public, that he would be rewarded for ids 
lab rand time, at least that he might obtain 
a support. But 1 rely with confidence on 
the Lend, and cast myself upon ihe lenity, 
liberality, and favor of my brethren and 
generous public; and hope that 1 shall be 
able to make the work so interesting, that 
il will be acceptable to all, and ihat the 
work may tend to the glory of God and the 
prosperity of his cause, and give suitable 
facilities to ministers and ail the dear chil- 

dren of God, in the great 
clige of sinking to 

glorious priv- 
nraise. Ancl the 

righteous shall return with songs and ever- 
lusting honors, &e. 



Grooverville, Lowndes county, Ga. 

Sept. 10, 1-840. 
Dear Editors: VVitii fear and trem- 
bling 1 pick up my pen to write a few 
j lines, winch 1 thought I never would be 
guilty of any more, for fear I should dis- 
honor that, glorious cause,or name. Father 



Morclcy and father Bennett, your names 
and a great many others have chastised, 
strengthened, & comforted me; and 1 hope 
it was accompanied by the Holy Spi'rit. 
For though their writings lashed me, ! was 
constrained to say, Truth, Lord. ! was 
by some, means made willing to kiss th< 
rod, and acknowledge i have sinnc 

I have the honor 

to I): ion* 

Providence church, in Florida, ns a lay 
member. I think the Primitive is on the 
gaining hand. There are a f$reat mar 


this part of the 

country, but they have not got in a way of 
taking these papers. 

Dear brethren, there is one tiling thai 
has lain on my mind wish great weight, 
which compels me to mention that winch 
make's me shrink at [bethought of it. About 
five or six years ago, there was given me 
a dream, which has been at times like fire 
in my bones, I have often thought that 1 
never could give my views on that passage 
of scripture, bul 1 was afflicted last night 
with a violent kvii\ and if i ever suffered 
in mind,..ft must have been last night, in 

consequence ot disobey 

the command 
that was given me with the»oream, which 
was this: (1 thought I saw the likeness ofa 
man, he said unto me, Go, preach from 
these words; \\ ho was delivered for our 
offences, and rose again for our jus .idea- 
tion. This was showed me in a night vis- 
ion, whether in the spirit, or oui of the 
spirit, God knoweth. i now will give you 
my view on it. The first, I will try to j 
show who the apostle in -ant. Sly. Whit I 
he was delivered for. Thirdly Why' 
he should be raised again for our justifica- 
tion. ) 

See. Gens. 3. 15: And I will put en- 
mity between and the woman, and be- 
tween thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise 
thy head, and thou sharll bruise bis heel. 
Luke Is', 31, 35: And behold, thou shall 
conceive m thy womb, and bring forth a 
Son, and shall call bis name (JESUS.) 
This is be of whom ibe apostle speaks. 
John said, behold the Lain!) of God, ih I 
taketh away the sin of the world; 

Secondly, I shall notice something of 
his mission, and of his being delivered or 
sent. We understand that when the Lord 
God created man, he created them in his 
own image, pure and holy, and pronounced 
them goud and very good. Well, as. long 
as this was the situation of man in tbe ere 
ation, the apostle must be right when be 

■nid, by man came sin and by sin came 
death; so death past upon all men. for all 
have sinned and come short of the glory 
of God. For it was said in the day that 
ih'ou ealesl thereof, thou shall surely 
die. And as long as Adam did not dr.: tempo- 
rally in that (].)•;. be must undoubtedly 
hive died spiiitu.illy and become subject 'o 
death temporal, and death eternal. This 
situation of man was deplorable', yet they 
hid no one to fault bul themselves, al- 
though they tried lo lay the blame on tbe 
serpent; \'ov God bad given them a com- 
mand, and they could not deny it. There- 
fur e they became guilty before him, and had 
sold themselves for nought, although the 
promise was, that they should be redeemed 
wit bout price, 

We will now notice the deplorable sit- 
uation of man, and the holiness of that law 
of God. The law sa\ s: Cursed is every one 
that continueth not in all things thai is writ- 
ten in the book of the law to do liiem. 
Paul said, that the law was holy, just and 
good; but he was carnal, sold under sin. 
Now as the law is boh', it certainly de- 
mands a perfect obedience, which is with- 
out the least blemish of sin. For the Fath- 
er cannot, behold sin with the least allow- 
ance; and we carnal, sold under sin, what 
a situation, what a doleful pit, man baa 
plunged themselves in'o. 

Bui behold, the lion of ihe i tribe of Ju- 
dah hath prevailed to open the book, and 
1 1 loose the seven seals thefpof. Was this 
what, he was delivered foi ? I think it was 

Kor God so loved the world, that he gave 
his only begotten Son, that whosoever be- 
lieve on him should not perish, but have 
everlasting life. But love and mercy 
could mi' reach the sinner's case until justice 

wi re satisli 
great. Bu 
ihe law room and 
stooped under the 

and her demands were 

see, Christ has stepped into 

side of his church, 

iw to redeem 



that were under the law. Did not he 
know what it would cost him, from the cov- 
enant ibaf was with or between him and 
his Father? For he said, what king that go 
to make war, or build, and sit not down 
first and count up the cost, &c. Was it 
(ov to pay the debt that his church owed lo 
justice.''" 1 think it was. 

What a g'orious Saviour, what love. O 
til a I v-ve could lay it to heart more than we do, 
to think thai lie gave his life for our lives, 
spill his blood for our ransom, bore our re- 
proach that we might go' free"! For if the 
Son shall make you free, you shall be free 



indeed. For he has become t He end of the 
law for righteousness lo every one (hat 
believe. Now if Christ is the end of I lie 
law, for them that believe in him, then 
justice is sat i^fie;] and h:is no more demand 
on his church, for hc(Chrisi) has become 
surety for her. Now since justice and all 
her demands arc paid, a perfect obedience 
is rendered, according to all her demands. 
Now what hinders righteousness and truth 
saluting each Other? Love, wisdom and 
power, rejoicing together, in the salvation 
of his bride. This is what he was deliver- 
ed for, that she through his salvation might 
be saved. Now God can be just, and the 
justifier of her. (Why?) Because she be- 
lieved in his son. For it is written: They 
that believe on him, hath passed from death 
unto life, and shall not come into condem- 
nation. (Why?) Because God for Christ's 
sake hath forgiven them their sins. 

1 now will try to speak somethingon the 
3rd proposition. And was raised again for 
our justification. Now to justify, is to clear 
any one from imputed guilt, or defend the 
person that has violated a law from the pen- 
alty thereof. Now if Christ has rose again 
for Ihe justification of his bride, in that 
day when he comes to make up his jewels 
she will surely he vindicated from the 
charge of transgression, as if she had never 
committed it. For she is to be presented 
to the king in needle work, not a spot nor 
wrinkle thereon. For he will be our ad- 
vocate, our righteousness and redemption; 
for in him and through him she will tri- 
umph over death, hell and the grave. 
For blessed and holy are they ilia', hath 
a part in the first resurrection; on such the 
second death hath no power. 

These are some hints of my views. 1 
am sorry that I bad to he so lengthy. I 
have hardly touched the subject at last. I 
hope the brethren will look over all slips and 
charge them to my imperfections. 1 shall 
hereafter desist and leave it for abler pens; 
but I hope they will not stop blowing their 
rams horns, until iniquity is compassed 
seven times. May the Lord be with you 
all in doing much good, in the name of Je- 
sus of Nazareth. 

DA P'lD R O W EL L, Jun r. 


Kosciusko, Attala county, Mi. ) 
March 20t/i, 1540. 5 
Dear Brethren Kditors: 1 have 
been a constant reader of our little despised 

paper by some, yet delightfully read by 
many of God's little ones. As some of the 
brethren wish doctrinal views, I will offer 
some of mine; you can iheh judge of me 
as you please. By the grace of God 1 am 
what 1 am. 

Man, depraved as lie is, without doubt 
is an idolator, or worshipper of the true 
God. 1 am clearly of opinion, that man 
with all his worldly wisdom and literary 
knowledge, never has nor never will wor- 
ship God in that way the Saviour told the 
woman at the well. Furthermore, the Sa- 
viour says, ye cannot serve God and mam- 
mon. Look, my brethren, through all the 
Christian era. Wise men who profess to 
serve God, have brought into the family of 
Chris!, almost all the difficulties' that have 
ever annoyed his children; and by allego- 
ries, and metaphors, and prophecies, all of 
their own liking, are still disturbing the. 
peace and harmony of God's little ones. 
The devil. I presume, never was better 
pleased with man, than when (he) the de- 
vil could get man to be religious under a 
cloak of deception. 

But, brethren, notwithstanding all these 
fail to fevve God aright, yet God is wor- 
shipped on earth; bnt it is by his own chil- 
dren. It is clearly revealed in the scrip- 
tures, that God male but one man, and in 
; him was life for all his family; for surely 
: we have come by ordinary generation, as 
: such Adam must have had our life in him. 
Even when coming out of the hand of God, 
he could he nothing more than God's good 
creature, not. an heir of immortal glory, but 
of the earth, earthy; and by his own act 
has forever ruined his own family. Be 
not. deceived, brethren; God has not chan- 
ged, he still requires Adam's family to live 
as holy as Adam was, when he became a 
living soid and was condemned forever for 
one act of disobedience. Under those con- 
siderations none of Adam's family ever 
can see God's face in peace. Be not sca- 
red, brethren. Paul says, the children of 
the flesh are not the children of God. A- 
gain, he says, flesh and blood cannot in- 
herit the kingdom of God. Be astonish- 
ed, O, lost family of Adam. 

Brethren, GoJ is not bound to man to 
save one soul; and thus I conclude all ihat 
have ever been or ever will be saved, is in 
consequence of the agreement between the 
Father and the Son. Therefore, 1 con- 
clude, that it pleased the Father tint he the 
Son should have life within himself. Now, 
brethren, the- scripture saitb, that Adam 



was only a figure of him (hat was to como. 
l)o you not clearly see, brethren, that 
Christ haH in himself an eternal life, ami 
thai life is the life of nil his little ones 1 
would ask any wise man, or ignorant man, 
if ihey were active in their natural genera- 
tion? All agree they were not. ! ask,' 
which is the greatest work, generation or 
regeneration; the one done on permission, 
the other done from heaven purposed-ly? 
If I were to ask any woman how many 
children she would hive; if not irritated j 
by the unpopular question she would say, ! 
the Lord only knows, 1 know not. There- 
fore, if God knows how many children a 
woman will have, he surely knows how j 
many he will have. 

That which is horn of the fle w h, is flesh; j 
that which is horn of the spirit, is spirit. ; 
In view of this, the doctrine of the go=pel ; 
is clear. According as he hath chosi n us 
in him, before the foundation of the world. I 
The Holy Spirit being sent of God, fi ids ' 
the strong man fully in possession o( one 
of his chosen ones. Docs he ask for en- 
trance, or do they compromise and each 
take a part? No, he the Spirit lays hold 
on the strong man, and now the stronger 
divides the spoil, qualifies the soul to serve 
God, and the flesh is constrained to serve 
the soul; and makes an honorable division, i 
qualifies even the flesh to render to Csesar 
the things which belong to Csesar, and to 
God the things which are God's. In this 
kind of renovation, 1 think the soul a jus- 
sive recipient of the Holy Spirit, and strug- 
gles under the weight of guilt until born in 
the kingdom of grace, which may he fully 
said, one of wisdom's children. It is not 
by chance, like some of Adam's msssiona- 
ries, still born children, &c. 

1 will now give some evidences, togeth- 
er with my own experience, why 1 thus 
believe. My sheep hear my voice, &c. 
1 give unto them eternal life — your life is 
hid with Chris-t in God — that God hath 
given to us eternal life, and this life is in 
his Son — -born not of blood, nor of ihe will 
of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of 

are (aught to know, as from what they are 
brought to fci ■]. 


North Carolina.—.!. Biggs, Sen. WUI {.amnion. 
11. M. G. Moore, Germanlon. W. w. Mizell, Ply- 
mouth. Charles Mason, Roxboro''. Benj> Bynum, 
Speight's Bridge. H. Avera, .flocrasboro \ L H, 
Keneday, Chalk Ltvel. Bur'well Temple, Raleigh, 
Geo. w. MoNeoly, Leaksville. Wm. II, Vnnn, 
Long ~"reclt Brdge. Thomas Bagley, Smithfteld. 
James H.Sasser, Waynesboro 1 . John Fruit, San- 
dy Creek, L. B, Bennett, Meathville. Oor's 
Canaday, Cravensvil'le, William Welch, Abbott's 
Creek, J. La-mb, Camden G. II. A. B. Bains, 
Jr. Stanhope. C. T. Sawyer, Powell's Point. 
Isaac Tillery, Lapland, Thomas Miller, Eliza- 
beth City. Harris Wilkerson, West Point. Isaac 
Alderman, Moore's Creek, James Miller, Milton 
Park. David R. Canaday, French's Mills. L, P. 
Beardsley, Greenville. Isaac Meekins, Columbia, 
L. J. J. Puckett, Richland, Wm, M. Rushing, 
White's Sfoie. 

South Carolina. 


enanree, Sen. » 


derson C. //. Ulnvrles Carter, Cambridge. B, 
Lawrence, Effingham. James Burris, Sem Bold 
Spring. William S. Shaw, Rock Mills. Levi 
Lpo, Blaelrville. Andrew Westmoreland, Cash- 
vi\\e. Rj Hamilton, .liken. Marshal McGraw, 
Brown's. John Li Simpson, Ctmhham, L G> 
Bowers, Hickory Hill, Wm! Nelson, Camde~n, G, 
Mathews, Mount Willing. Jacob B. Higgihs, 

Georgia.— William Moseiey, Rear Creek. Al- 
len Cleveland, McDonouglu John McKenney, For- 
syth. Anthony Holloway, Lagrange. P, M. Cal- 
houn, Kn.oxvU.le. R. Reese, Batonlon. Thomas 
Amis and David w. Palman, Lexington. Jona- 
than Xeel, James II ol lings worth and Stepliea 
Castellow, Macon. Willirm D. Taylor, Union 
Mill. John w. Turner, Pleasant Mil. Joshua 
Bovvdoin,.^/a/;'.stv7/c. .las. M.Rockmore, Upaioie. 
I'. II. Edwards, Georgetown. Win. Trice, Thqm- 
aston. Rzra McCrary, Warrcnton. Prior Lewis, 
Rodney, lohn Lasseiier, Vernon. B.Pace, Van Wert. 
L. Poacock, Cassville, V. D.Whatley, Bamesville. 
Alex. Garden and Thomas CiTricp, Mount Mome. 
Elias 0. Hawthorn, Bainbridge J. G. wintring- 
ham, Florence. Win. Mi Amos, Greenville, Ran- 
dolph Arnold, Latimer's S/o;-?. T, J, Bazemore, 
Clinton. Jo?.Stova!l,./?yU('llf/. Jason Grier, Indian 
Springs. Wm. VleElvy, Jtltapulgus. Furna Ivey, 
Milledgeville. Wm. Garrett, Tucker's Curin. Jesse 
Moore & John Hardie, Irwinton. Leonard Pratt, 
Whitcsville. Edward Jones, Decatur. Ai Hen- 
God — being born again, not of corruptible don, Shi\o. A. G. Simmons, Hickory Grove, 

seed, but of incorruptible, which livethand 
abideth for ever. 

No room. God, our Father, keep thy 
little ones. Serve God, my brethren. 


Moral and religious instruction, derives 
its efficacy, not so much from what men 

Wm. J. Parker, Chenula. John Herington, Wel- 
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liains, Fair Play. John Wayne, Cain's, R.S.Ham: 
rick, Carroll'on. DavidSmith,Coo/ Spring, Allison 
Spear, Flat Shoals, Moses Daniel, Bowery, Moses 
H. Denroan, Muriel/a. James Bush, Blahely, 
A. Burroughs, Moore's H Roods, Samuel Hug- 



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r^mlle. JoeJTJolley CwWo;/, Bern, ,m C an d Thomas H, Dixon, *&««. John Brw'in, 

£?™£ ^1^ J n,TI H, Jone ?;..{,':^ :i "7 j7 ' "■'• LinVhorhe, Herbert D. B'uck'ham; ft«W«, Wil- 

W. 13. Millions, Rossvtlle, Willis S. Jwrrell, I lia-m Davis, Houston. VV'i. 

GnfFord, Greenviib. Samuel Moore, A'/iow ////.', 
John G. Walker, Milton . ii'y \\ illiams, Havana. 
Jas< Daniel, G'latiborne, Elias Daniel, Church Hill. 
John Bonds, Clinton, David Johnston, Leighton, 
Adam McCreary. Brooklyn. Josiah Jones. Jaek- 
son. David Jacks, New Market. Sherrod w 
Harris, Vienna. . John McQueen, Graves'' Fern/, 
William Talley, Mount Moriah, Graddy Her- 
ring, Clayton. Gi vv. Jeter, Pint Lula, Samuel 
Ci Johnson, Pliasant Grove. Wm.Crutclier, Huitts- 
vil/e, With Hi Cook and H'y Petty, Pickeasoille. 
Seaborn Ramrick. 1'lan'ersciile. James Si Mor- 
gan, Dayton. Wm. Hyde, Gaines oille, Ruf'tis 
Daniel, Jameston, Frederick i lines, Z, 
Johns.TWa. Eli McDonald, Painsui.lle. Wm 
Powe\\,Youngsvi\\e. John Brown, Wacooca, Silas 
Monk, Horse Shoe Bend, R. Lackey, Scraper. 
James F. Watson, Jibbcvil.e- David Treadwell 
and R.w. CarYislegMo.untllickory. Joseph ! I. flol- 
loway, \-lizle Green, Jesse Lee, Farmers- 
ville. William Grahhs, Louhville. flenry Ad- 
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ville. Elliot Thomas, WiHiamsloa. F.Pickett, 
China tfrovei James Grumbles, Ben/on. John 
M. Pearson, Bi.deviWe. John D. Hoke, Jackson- 
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Roberts, MonroeviWe. .lames tlildrolh, Pleasant 
Plains. E. M.Amos, Midway, J. E. Albritton, 
Jenevcr, Joseph Holloway, Activity. 

Tennessee. — Michael Burkhalter, Chcehsvitle. 
Aaron Compton, Somerville. Asa Newport, 
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Bass, Three Forks, John w. Springer, Sugar Creek. 
"William Si Smith, Winchester. Thomas Hill, 
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Echols, Miffdn. Aaron Tison, Med on. George 
'1'urner, Waverty. Abner Steed, 'Mulberry, Henry 
Randolph, Sncdysville. Pleasant A. Wilt, Cheek's 
X Roads. J, Cooper, Unionoille. Michael Bran- 
son, Long Savannah. Jas'i !!• Holloway, Haze] 
Green. William McBee, Old Tiara Creek, Ben- 


i-'ay, Kjaerry . 
Henry Davis, Milton, 

cjisiana. — Eli Honden, Marburyville. Thos* 
Paxton, Greensboro'. 

Missouri. — Joel Ferguson, Jackson 

Arkansas.— John Hart, Pine Wood, M. C< 
Bonrland, Ozark. 

Illinois.— Richard M.Newport, Grand View, 
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Indiana. — Peter Nalizman, New Harmony. I- 
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VOL. 6. 

SATURDAY, APRIL 10, 18-11. 

No. 7. 



Macon, Bibb coTtnty, Ga. ~) 
November \5/h, 1840. 5 

1)ear Uretriien: I will now send you 
$ communication copied, which seems to 
Correspond with the true spirit of Christi- 
anity, and also with the present times, in 
exposing error in some of its odious 
forms. The foundation of the subject is to 
be found in Isaiah, 40'h chapter and 11th 
Vers?, which reads as follows: He shall! 

feed his flick like a shepherd: he shall ga- : condescends to bear; and happy are they 
tlief the lambs with his arm, and carry who with a pleasing consciousness can say* 
them in his bosom, and shall genily lead We arc his people, and the sheep of his pas- 
those that arc with young. lure. Psalms, c. 3d vs. The passage will 

Nowj dear brethren and friends, it is not j lead me to speak of the shepherd, the 
easy for those whose habits of life are in- j j flock, and his care and tenderness over 

us, methinks we have reason to say, How 
is the gold become dim, and the fine gold 
changed. Lam. 4th c. and 1st vs. 

The opulence of Jacob may be conjectu- 
red, from the present he sent to his brother 
Esau. Gen. 32d c 14th and 3 5th vs. Yet 
Jacob attended his flocks himself, in the 
drought by day. and in the frost by night. 
Gen. 31st c. 40th vs. The vigilance, the 
providence, the tenderness necessary to the 
due discharge of the shepherd's office, have 
been frequently applied in describing the 
nature and ends of government; and it has 
been esteemed a high encomium of a good 
king, to style him the shepherd of his peo- 
ple. This character, Messiah, the Saviour, 

Sensibly formed by the customs of modern 
times, to conceive any adequate idea of the 
pastoral life, as it is obtained in the rastern 
countries, before that simplicity of man- 


1. Our Lord expressly styles himself 
the shepherd, the good shephrrd of the 
sheep. John, 10th c. lllh and 14th vm, 
ners which characterized the early ages, And the apostle Peter styles him the chief 
was corrupted by the ariificial and false re- j shepherd. 1 Peter, 4th c. 4;h vs. IIi.« 
finements of luxury; and wealth in those! faithful ministers have the honor to be un- 
days consisted principally in flocks and der shepherds, he appoints and qualifies 
herds,- and Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and oth-|them to ^qi\ his flock, they are the mes- 
ers, who were to speak in modern Ian- j sengers of bis will; but they can do noth- 
guage persons of high distinction, were ! ing without him, they can only communi- 
likewise shepherds. The book of Gefye-jcate what they receive, and cannot watch 
sis, which is arrauthentic and infallible his- j lover the flock, unless they are themselves 
tory of the most ancient times, exhibits a i watched over by him.- Pss-hns, 127*!-., I t. 
manner of living so different from our own, ' f\ r with respect to efficacy, he is die chief 
that perhaps few persons a-re qualified to j and indeed the sole shepherd; the eves 
enter fully into the spirit of the descrip- jof all are upon him, and his eye is upon 
tion. The poets seem to have derived their and overall his flock. The Old Testament 
idea of the golden age from soma imperfect I e hutch had a shepherd, and their shepherd 
tradition of this primitive s!a!c; and if we was Jehovah. Psalms, 23 c. 1st v. Un- 
compare it with the state of things around [loss, therefore, the shepherd and bishop of 



our souls likewise be Jehovah, we fall un- 
speakably short of the privileges of ancient 
Israel. If their shepherd was almighty, 
and if ours could be but a creature, surely 
we could not then say what the apostle af- 
firms that we have, a better covenant, es- 
tablished upon better promises, lieb. Slh 
c. 6th vs.; since Messiah himself is ex- 
pressly declared, to be the surety and the 
mediator of this covenant. 

But would it not be better, upon this 
supposition, with David who could say- 
Jehovah is my shepherd, than with us 
who are entrusted to the care of a delegated 
and inferior keeper, if Jesus be no Jehovah. 
Besides, who but Jehovah can relieve the 
necessities of multitudes in all places in the 
same moment, and be equally near and 
attentive to them in every ago. The sin- 
ner who is enlightened lo know himself, 
his wants, enemies and dangers, will not 
dare to confide in any thing short of an al- 
mighty arm; he needs a shepherd who is 
full of wisdom, full of care, and full of 
power; able, like the pan, to shine 
upon millions at once, and possessed of 
those incommunicable attributes of deity, 
omniscience and omnipresence. Such is out- 
great shepherd, and he is eminently the 
good shepherd also; for he laid down his 
life for the sheep, and has redeemed them 
to God by his own blood. 

2nd. A shepherd ia a relative name. It 
has reference to a flock. This great and 
good shepherd has a flock, whom he loved 
from everlasting, &whom having loved he 
will love to the end. John 13lhc. and 1st 
vs. He humbled himself for their sake's, 
submitted to partake of their nature and 
their sorrows, took upon him the form of a 
servant, and was made in the likeness of 
sinful flesh. He died for hissheep, the just 
/or the unjust. 1st Peter, 3d c. and 1 St h 
Vs.- To redeem them from the curse of 
the hiw, from the guilt and dominion of 
sin, from the power of satan, and to bring J 
them to God. They by nature are all j 
gone astray, every one to his own way. 
Isaiah, 53d, Gth. But having thus bought 
them with his blood, in his own appoint-' 
ed time he seeks, finds and restores his 
sheep by the power ol his word and spirit. 
He makes himself known to their hearts, 
causes them lo hear & understand his voice, ! 
and guides them into his fold. Then thev '' 
become his sheep, in the sense of my text; 1 
they are under his immediate protection j 
and government. 

Considered as individuals, thev are! 

fitly described by the name of sheep. 
A sheep is a weak and defenceless crea- 
ture, prone to wander; and if once goes as- 
tray, is seldom known to return of its own 
accord. A sheep has neither strength to 
fight with the wolf, nor speed lo escape 
from him; nor has it the foresight of the ant, 
to provide its own sustenance. Such is 
our character and our situation, unable to 
take carO of ourselves, prone to wander 
from our resting place, exposed to enemies 
which we can neither withstand nor avoid, 
without resource in ourselves; and taught 
by daily experience the insufficiency of eve- 
ry thing'arotind us. Yet if this shepherd 
be our shepherd, weak and helpless as we 
are, we may be of good courage; if wc can 
say with David, the Lord is my shepherd, 
we may make the same inferences which 
he diil: Therefore I shall not want, there- 
fore 1 need not fear. Collectively they 
are a flock, they are not indeed in one 
place, they are scattered abroad, dispersed 
through different ages and countries, sepa- 
rated by sea and mountains, and too ofien 
by misapprehensions and prejudices, by 
names and forms; and only a very small 
part of the flock are known to each other. 
But they are all equally known lo him, 
and equally under his eye. In his view 
they are one flock, one body; they are an- 
imated by one and the same spirit, their 
views, hopes and aims are the same; and 
yet a little while they shall all be brought 
together, to rejoice and to join in worship* 
before his throne of gldrj'j for they have 
an inheritance reserved lor them in heav- 
en. 1st Peter, 1 c. 4lh and 5th vs. And 
they shall be safely kept, while they are so- 
journers upon earth, for the shepherd of 
Israel is their keeper. 

3d. He shall i'acd his flock like a shep- 
herd. The word is not restrained to feed- 
ing, it includes all the branches of the shep* 
herd's office. Me shall act the part of 
shepherd to his flock. We have a beauti- 
ful description of what he has erigiged lo 
do, and what he actually does for his peo- 
ple, as their shepherd, in tie 23d Psalm. 
And the subject is more largely illustrated 
in the 34th chapter of Ezckiel's prophecy. 
His sheep from age to age have been wit- 
ness to the truth of his promises. He has 
a flock at present who rejoice in his care, 
and greater multitudes as yet unborn shall 
successively arise in I heir appointed season 
ami call him bles'sed. Psalms, 72. 17th 
vs. For he is the same yesterdays to- 
day, and forever. He feeds them, he lead's 



them into green pastures; these pastures fmised lo keep (hem night and clay, Isaiah, 
are his word and ordinances, by which he 

communicates to them of his own fulness; 
for in strict propriety of speech, he is him- 
self their food, they eat his flesh and drink 
his blood. John, 6th c. 54th vs. This 
was once thought a hard saying, John, 6th, 
5Sth, by some of his professd followers, & 
is still thought so by too many; but it is 
his own saying, and therefore I am not 
concerned either to confirm or to vindicate 
it. The knowledge they receive by failh 
of his incarnation and sufferings unto death, 
bf the names he bears; and the offices and 
relations in which he is pleased to act 
for them, is the life and food of their 

The expression of feeding them is agree- 
able to the analogy he has been pleased to 
establish between the natural and the spir- 
itual life; as the Strength of the body is 
maintained ami renewed by eating and 
drinking, so thej who in tins sense feed 
Upon him in their hearts, by faith with 
thanksgiving, even they live, John, G.h c. 
57th vs. by him; for his flesh is meat in- 
deed, and His blood is drink indeed. He 
guides them first by his example, he has 
trodden the path of duty and trail before 
them, and they perceive and follow his 
footsteps. Again, by his word and spir- 
it he teaches them the way in which they 
Should go, and both inclines and enables 
them to walk in it. Isaiah, 30th. 21st. 
He guides them by his providence, he ap- 
points the bounds of their habitations, the 
line and calling in which thej are to serve 
him; and orders and adjusts the circum- 
stances of their livesaccording to his infi- 
nite wisdom, so as finally to accomplish his 
gracious designs in their favor. He guards 
them — it is written concerning him, he 
shall stand and feed in the strength of the 
Lord,- in the majesty of the name of the 
Lord his God. Micah, 5th c. and 4th 

If we conceive of a flock of sheep feeding 
in the midst of wolves, who are restrained 
from breaking in upon them not by any 
-visible enclosure, but merely by the power 
bf the shepherd's eye, which keeps them in 
awe and at a distance, it will give us some 
idea of the situation of his people. He 


r th 

c. jd vs. and every moment. 
Therefore, their enemies plot and rage iii 
vain. Their visible foes are numerous, 
but if we coidd look into the invisible 
world, and take a view of die subtility, 
malice, machinations and assiduity of the 
powers of darkness, who are incessantly 
watching for opportunities of annoying 
them, we should have a most striking con- 
viction, that a flock so defenceless and fee- 
ble in themselves, and against which such 
a combination is formed, can only be kept 
by the power of God. He heals them. 

Again, a good shepherd will examine the 
state of his flock. But there is no atten- 
tion worthy of being compared with his; 
not the slightest circumstance in their con- 
cerns escapes his notice. When they are 
ready to faint, borne down with heavy ex- 
ercises of mind, wearied with temptations 
dry and disconsolate in their spirits, he 
seasonably revives them. Nor are they in 
business without a need be for it all, Ids' 
dispensations towards them are medical, de- 
signed lo correct, or to restrain, or cure the 
maladies of their souls; and they are adjust- 
ed by his wisdom and tenderness to what 
they can bear, & to what their case requires, 
it is he likewise who heals their bodily 
sickness, and gives them help in all their 
temporal troubles. He is represented to 
us as counting their sighs, Psal. 5Gih, Slh 
vs. puiting their tears into his bottle, re- 
cording their sorrows in his book of re-. 
membrance, and even as being himself 
touched with a feeling of their infirmities, 
iieb's. 4l-h c. 15th vs. as the head feels for the 
members of the body — lie restores them. 
The power and subtilty of their enemies 
are employed to force or entice them 
from his rule; and loo often prevail" for a 

The sheep turn aside into forbidden 
paths, and whenever they do they would 
wander farther and farther till th?y were 
quite lost, if he were not their shepherd. 
If he permits them to deviate, he has a 
time to convince them that it was an evil 
rnd a bitter thing to forsake the Lord 
their shepherd, Jer. 2nd c. 19 vs. and 
to humble them and to bring 
back. Thus they become more 


provides them food in the midst of many \ ble of their own weakness, and of 
and mighty enemies, Psalms, 23d c. 5 h vs. I their obligations to his giacious care; for 
who envy them their privilege but cannot ' he will not suffer their enemies to Iri- 
prevent it. If he should withdraw his at- j umph ov< r them, he will not lose one of 
tention from the flock for a single moment, ' his true flock, not one convinced sinner 
they would be Worried; but he has pro- ! who has indeed and in truth surrendered 


PRIMl'l'lVlS tfAP'ttSffc 

*nd entrusted liis all to him. They must! 
and they shall smart an I mourn for their 
fo!lv, but he will in due season break their 
snares and lead them again into the paths 
ol p^ace for his o*n name's^safce. 

Tlie flock are not at! sheep, there are 
among them lambs; these are especially 
mentioned, and for these he expresses a 
peculiar tenderness, lie will gather them 
ia his arms, arid carry them in his bo- 
som; though they are weaklings, they 
shall not he left behind. This is a beauti- 
ful and pathetic image. If a poor lamb is 
weary and unable to keep up with the 
flock, it shall be carried. This clause af- 
fords encouragement, 1st, to young people. 
Early and serious impressions are often 
made upon the hearts of children, which 
we are to cherish, by directing their 
thoughts to the coir.passion of the good 
shepherd who has said, suffer little chil 
dren to come unto me and forbid them not, 
for of such is the kingdom of God. Mark 
10th c. and 14th vs. This high and holy 
one, who humbles himself to notice the Wor- 
ship of the heavenly host, hears the pray- 
ers of poor worms upon the earth, and his 
ear is open to the prayers of a child, no 
less so than to the prayers of a king. 

2nd. To young converts These at 
whatever age are child-red in the Lord's 
family, lambs in his flock- They are as 
yet weak, unsettled and unexperienced; al- 
most every day brings them into a new 
and untried situation, ihey often meet with 
opposition and discouragement, where 
they have promised themselves help an I 
countenance. Perhaps their nearest friends 
are displeased with them, and throw bar- 
riers in their way. As such, they are lia- 
ble likewise, while they are inquiring the 
way to Zion, to be perplexed by the vari- 
ous opinions and angry contentions, pre- 
vailing among the different religious per- 
sons or parties to whom they may address 
themselves. They are fn quenlly discour- 
aged by the miscarriages of professors., 
some of whom it is possible they have ad- 
mired and looked up to as patterns for their 
own imitation; add to these things, what 
they suffer from new and unexpected disco- 
veries of the evil and dceeitfuhiess of their 
hearts. The mistakes they commit in 
judgmemt and practice, for want of a 
more solid and extensive knowledge of 
the scriptures, and the advantage the 
great enemy of their souls derives from 
these various difficulties, to assault their 
peace and obstruct their progress* what 

would become of them in such circumsfori* 
ees, if their faithful shepherd had not prorr?- 
ised to read, and uphold them will/the arm 
of his p'>wcr. 

There is likewise particular mention made 
cf those that are with ytfitng. These lie 
will gently lead. If we take the word ac- 
cording to our version, it may signify z 
state of cOrfviction, of trouble. Many are 
the afflictions of the righteous, Psal. 3-1 the 
and 19lh vs. by which they are often wea- 
ried and heavy laden; but when t heir spirits' 
are overwhelmed within them, he know- 
cth their path. Jacob woftld not per- 
mit his cattle that were with young to be' 
overdriven for one day lest they 
should die; Gens. 23d c and >3th vs. much 
less will this good shepherd suffer the bur- 
dened among his flock, to be hurried and 
tempted beyond what they are able or what 
he will enable them to bear. But the 
word signifies those that have young, rath- 
er than those that are with young; two sorts 
of persons in the Lord's flock, who come 
miller thi.i description feel an especial need 
! of his compassion, tenderness and patience. 
j 1st, Me only knows the feelings of the 
i hearts of parents, what, solicitude and anxi- 
! ety they have for their yo'tng ones, the 
I -sucklings if I may s> speak of the flock; 
j which mingle with all their endeavors to 
, manage rightly the important charge com- 
mitted to litem, sod to bring their children! 
up id the nuiturc and admonition of the 

2 J. Ministers likewise have painful ex- 
ercises of mind. The apo>lle Paul Speaks 
of travelling in birth again, till Christ be 
formed in our hearts. Gal. 4th c. and 19th 
vs. When we know of any riewly awa- 
kened and beginning to seek his salvation^ 
how solicitous is our care to bring them 
forward, to comfort them, to warn them 
against the devices of their hearts and of 
their enemies; and how piercing our grief 
and disappointment, if they misc'arrv. How 
much is fell in sympathy for the trials ofthe' 
flack; what wisdom, faithfulness, courage* 
meekness and unction from on high, are 
necessary to the due discharge of wlut we 1 
owe to the flocks of which we have the' 
oversight. Who is sufficient for these 
thing'? And when we have done our best* 
our al', what defects and def/lcme'nts have 
we to mourn over. Hut this is our great 
consolation, that he who knows us and leads 
us, considers our fame and remembers that 
wc are but dust. 

In this delineation of the character and 


It) I 

conduct of the great shepherd of the sheep, 
Heb. ]3lh c. and 20th vs. we have an af- 
flicting exemplar and pallern, for the imi- 
tation of those who act in the honorable 
office of under shepherds; and are ca.led 
by their profession and engagement to feed 
his sheep and lambs. Whether there be 
any minislers in our assembly or not, yon 
will at least permit me to speik a word to 
mine own heart; which may, I hope, at the 
same time, impress your minds with a 
sense of our great need of your prayers. 
Brethren, pray for us, ■IstThes. 5th «. and 
25ih vs. and pray to the Lord of the har- 
vest, that he may send forth more faithful 
laborers into his harvest; Matt. 9th e. and 
28:h vs. for it is his work alone. 

It is not necessary that a minister of the 
gospel should be in the first line of those 
who are admired for their abilities or lite 
rature; much less, that he should be distin- 
guished by such titles, honors, and emolu- 
ments, as this world can give. But it is 
necessary, and of the last importance to his 
character and usefulness here, and tohisac- 
eeptance in the great day of the Lord, that 
he should have a shepherd's eye and a 
shepherd's heart; he must serve the flock, 
not for filthy lucre, or by constraint, that 
constraint which the apostle attributes to 
the love of Christ only excepted; but wil- 
lingly, and with a view to their edifica- 
tion. 1st Peter, 5th c. 2d and 3d vs. And 
he must indeed serve them, not acting as a 
lord over God's heritage, but as an exam- 
ple to the flock; not preaching himself, 2d 
Cor. 4th c. 5th vs. perverting his sacred 
offiee to the purposes of ambition, or vain 
glory, or the acquisition of wealth; but 
preaching Christ Jesus ihe Lord, and em- 
ploying all his powers to turn sinners 
from the error of their ways, 

He who winneth souls is wise. Prov. 
1 lth c. and 30lh vs. If it he wisdom to 
propose the noblest end, the faithful minis- 
ter is wise; the end at which he aims, in 
subordination to the will and glory of God, 
is the salvation of souls. And the recov- 
ery of one immortal soul, to the favor and 
image of God, is and will be found a grea- 
ter and more important event, than the 
deliverance of a whole kingdom from sla- 
very or temporal ruin. If it be wisdom to 
pursue a right end, by the fittest means, 
he is wise; he knows the gospel of Christ 
to be ihe power of God, the appointed, 
the effectual, the only sufficient me;ins 
for his accomplishing his great purpose. 
Therefore, however unfashionable it may 

l be, he is not ashamed of it; he preaches it 
and he glories in it. 

!f it be an effect of wisdom, not to be 
deterred from the prosecution of a great 
and noble design, by the censure and dis- 
like of weak and incompetent judges, the 
faithful minister is truly wise. He loves 
his fellow creatures, and would willlingly 
please them for their good; but he cannot 
fear them, because he fears and serves the 
Lord; he looks forward with desire to the 
day of that solemn and general visitation, 
when the shepherd and bishop of souls 
shall himself appear. 1st Peter, 2d c & 25 
vs. Also, 5:h and 4lh. And if he may 
then stand among those who are pardoned 
and accepted in the beloved, and receive 
the crown of life which his Lord has pru- 
mised to them that love him, 2d Tim. 4th c. 
and Sth vs. this thought fully reconciles him 
te the trials of his situation; and how- 
ever depreciated, misrepresented, oppo- 
sed, or ill-treated here, he can s:iy, 
none of these things move me, neither 
count I my life dear to myself, so that I 
may finish my course with joy, and the 
ministry which I have received of the Lord 
Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of 
God. Acts, 20th c. 24th vs. 

There is » counter prt to this charac- 
ter described in strong and glowing lan- 
guage by the prophets. There are idol 
shepherds, who feed not the flock but 
themselves. Ezekiel, 34th c. and 2d vs. 
Who neither attempt to heal the sick, to 
strengthen the feeble, to i ; nd up that 
which is broken, nor to recover that which 
his been driven away. Isaiah, 56th c. 
10th & 11th vs. Who cannot understand, 
greedy lovers of gain, and who by a change 
of metaphor, are compared to slumbering 
watchmen, and dumb dogs that cannot 
bark. The New Testament teaches us to 
expect, that such persons under the name of 
ministers, will be found likewise in the visi- 
ble church of Christ; men of corrupt minds, 
1st Timothy, 6th c. and Sth vs. Roms. 
16th c. lSth vs. destitute of the truth; who 
serve not the Lord. Jesus, but their own 
belly. Men who are of the world, 1st John, 
4th c. and 5th vs. and speak of the world, 
and therefore the world heareth and favor 
them. But alas, neither the wretched 
slave who toils at the galley oar, nor he 
that is doomed to labour in a deep mine 
where the light of the sun never reaches 
him, nor the lunatic who howls in a chain, 
are such emphatical objects of our compas- 
sion, as the unhappy man who prostitutes 



the name and function of a minister of 
Christ, to the gratification of his pride & av- 
arice; and whose object is not the wel- 
fare of the dock, but the possession 
of the fleece. Ezekl. 33d c. 7th and Sih vs. 
Who intrudes into the post of a watch- 
man, hut gives no alarm of the impending 

Now if the scriptures be true, & who dare 
say they are not; and if the gospel be not 
a mere phantom, as indeed Pope Leo lOt'n, 
profanely styled it, a lucrative fable, the 
more he accumulates riches, the more he 
rises in dignity, the more his influence ex- 
tends, the more he is to be commiserated; 
he may have the reward he seeks, he may 
be admired and flittered, he may for a sea- 
son be permitted to withstand and discoun- 
tenance the efforts of the Lord's faithful 
minis'ers or servants, he may shine in the 
accomplishments of a scholar or a courtier. 
but nothing less than true repentance and 
faith in the blessed Redeemer, who c c name 
and cause he has'so much dishonored, can 
finally screen him from the full effect of 
that terrible denunciation, to wit: Wo 
be to the idol shepherd, that forsakelh or 
neglecteth the flock; the sword shall be up- 
on his arm, and upon his right eye; his arm 
shall be clean dried up, -and his right eye 
shall be utterly darkened. IZech. 11th c. 
and 17ih vs. Awful sentence indeed upon 
the false teachers, that will rend churches 
and scatter the flock of Christ, for the sake 
of worldly gain. 

I will now come to a close by earnestly 
beggnagthe prayers of all the dear brethren 
aud sisters, in behalf of the members com- 
posing the little church near Macon, and al- 
so our beloved pastor. 

And now, dear brethren, may the grace 
of God rest and remain in each and every 
pne of your hearts at aJJ times until death. 
Pare well. 


Neil) Market, Alabama, } 
March 2nd, 1841. $ 
Brethren Editors: [expected to have 

written once and again before this time; 
but owing to the affliction in my family 
.and some other causes, have 1 delayed, tho' 
1 feel to say a few words now. 

In my last piece I offeied a few reasons 
why 1 could not beoome a missionary. An- 
other reason why 1 cannot, Paul says, bod- 
jly exercise profiteth liule. First Tim. 4 
8. Now, my dear brethren, it seems to 
me, [hat the present missionary system is 

altogether an external show; while I fear tha 
internal work of the spirit is known by 
but few. And vain is that religion where 
the judgment is not informed, and the mind 
and will renewed. I hear a great outcry 
about the millennial dispensation, when ev- 
ery person shall become Christians. But 
really it appears to me, that the world is as 
full of wickedness, error and superstition as 
in almost any other age. And indeed, were 
it not for the protection of a divine and 
overruling providence, the church of Christ 
together with the glorious truths for 
which she contends, would long since have 
been banished from the world. For when 
we take up the sacred volume, and see the 
many trying scenes through which Zion 
has passed, when all assistance failed but 
that of God, who has through all ages sup- 
ported and sustained her. 

We -then say, brethren, that when we 
think over these things, we cannot live on 
that doctrine or system that rests on the 
does of man. Time would fail us to enu- 
merate ail her tria's, we will only touch 
on a few of them and do earnestly request 
you to examine the good Book for the 
remainder. We think of a Moses tried and 
tempted forty years in the wilderness, with 
a stiff-necked or rebellious people, where 
he would doubtless have gone into despera- 
tion, had it not been for the mercies and 
the protecting handof God. We cannot for-: 
bear saying something of the prophetess 
Deborah, who dwelt under the palm tree, 
Judges 4^ 4 and 5, which we think to be 
a plain representation of Jesus Christ and 
hischureh. We can but observe, that the 
palm tree grew between Ramah and Bethel. 
Now, my brethren, Ramah a place of 
mourning and Bethel a place of joy, and 
rigid, between the two Zion lives. But 
thanks be to God, that, she is continually 
sheltered by the palm tree, which is Christ. 
So when we examine the nature of the literal 
palm tree, that the greater the oppression 
and the more the weight piled on it to 
crush it, the more it flourishes and grows. 
And much more so Jn a divine sense, for 
persecution in its most shocking features, 
has been tried against the religion of .testis,, 
but contrary to nature, it has only caused 
it to flourish the more. 

Although men V II us, that we may 
always have revivals and be rejoicing, on, 
condition that we do our duty, we admit 
that the path of duty i.s the path of safety. 
But duly is so far from being meritorious 3 
that weie it not for the divine piinciple of 



grace implanted in the soul, we should never 
find her path. Grace brings the dead sinner 
to life. Grace brings lire mourning; soul 
to Christ. And I am sure, that it is grace 
that comforts and consoles the wandering 
pilgrim while in this world hestays. And 
let false teachers say what they may, we 
know both from scripture and experience, 
that Zion basher times of joy and of sor- 
row. Altho' Jacob, when sent away by bis 
father Isaac to Padan-aram, Gen. 28. 5. 
arrived to the place which he called Beth- 
el, where the Lord was pleased to reveal 
some glorious things to his soul, yet his 
moments of joy were transient, and bis 
scenes of sorrow without number. Never- 
theless, his God preseived him. And 
when he had left the house of Laban, and 
heard that his brother Esau was before him 
with an host, his heart was made to trem- 
ble. Hut here, even in this case of danger, 
he did not rely on his own ability; but he 
prayed the assistance of his constant help- 
er, the God of his ancestors, the best source ! 
from which he could ask help, for he was ' 
sure to receive protection. And after 
tbe anger of Esau was appeased, and Jacob 
had tbe interview with bim, we see that 
E«au wished to volunteer his services in as- 
sisting in driving Jacob's cattle. Gen. 
33. 12. Jacob replied as a good shepherd, 
that if the flock should one day be over- 
driven, they mustall die. Here it would 
not be amiss to remark, that E*au knew 
just as much about driving the fl jck as do 
the many false teachers of the day know 
about comforting and consolingfhc wander- 
ing pilgrim. And to speakof Esau's deform- 
ity or rattier his external roughness, we 
must compare it to the rough and unwhole- 
some doctrines of false professors. 

JMow, brethren, when we carefully exam- 
ineand investigate the present missionary 
system and compare it with the sacred 
scriptures, we see all the deformity of 
Esau. And wealso find it wishing to vol- 
unteer its assistance, in doing the work of 
God. But here we see none of the weak- 
nessand resignation to tbe will of God, that 
js found in Jacob. We bear them crying 
out, about the miserable condition of the 
pagan world; but what is their remedy for 
that, ihe heathen's desperate condition? 
They call not on God to alter their situa- 
tion, but endeavor to do it themselves, to- 
gether with the co-exertions of the heath- 
en instructed by them. And so with the 
greater number of the religious, world, they 
preach a system of works, they live on it 

themselves, and instruct their hearers in 
the same, & delude thousands of the honest 
citizens of our nation, by instructing them 
in their pernicious creed. And better 
would it be for the world without 
any preaching, than with such as is not 
true. But we see the scriptures fulfilling 
in it, for the Lord speaks of a day when 
seven women should take hold of one man. 
But at the same time we learn, that they 
lived on their own obedience, & wore their 
own apparel, but wished to be called by 
his name, barely to take away their re- 

Now, brethren, all the false religion in 
the world, we conceive to be only a ferm- 
al representation of that which is true; and 
the nearer the counterfeit comes to the gen- 
uine, the better calculated is it to deceive, 
and therefore the more to be feared. And 
when we examine the various constitutions 
of the religious world, or rather the con- 
fession of faith of each society, and then 
trace it to the date of its origin and the cause 
from which it sprang, we find it so plainly 
proved thst it sprang from some corrupt 
principle in him who first taught it, that 
every thing reasonable and true must say, 
that its origin is evil. It being therefore, 
a composition of the works of man, inde- 
pendent of the divine influence of grace, 
it will only amount to a system of works; 
to which the author of it, we may rational- 
ly suppose, gave laws and ordinances to 
fljit the convenience of man in nature, or at 
least such as was best adapted to his own 
notions of things. 

We read, 2nd Cor. 11. 14, 15, that satan 
himself was transformed into an angel of 
light. Now brethren, if the devil with all 
his blackness & deformity, can thus be trans- 
formed into the form of an angel, we need 
not be surprised when we see his ministers 
transforming themselves into the character 
of the children of God, and endeavoring by 
all their actions to mimic them. Brethren, 
religion has become so common in the world 
and according to the doctrine of some, so 
easily acquired, that scarcely any will live 
without it. And even those who acquire 
it so easily, seem for a time to enjoy all the 
comforts that grace can bestow. And in- 
deed they seem for a time to enjoy more 
than the true Christian. But alas! as their 
religion is easily obtained, so it is not dif- 
ficult to enjoy. Their religion and the light 
they enjoy, is the light of the transformed 
angel. And I honestly fear, that satan has 
more ministers in the world than has 



Christ. Wis minis'ers preach a doctrine 
that is most suitable to draw people to his 
cause. And the doctrine taught by Christ 
and his apostles, they will not. endure. And 
here we again see the scriptures are fulfil- 
ling, for Paul says, 2nd Tim. 4. 3, 1: For 
the time wilj come when they will not en- 
d&re-QQund doctrine, but after their own 
lusts shall they heap to themselves teach- 
ers having itching ear.-; and they shall turn 
away their ears from the truth. 

Now, brethren, we come to one otiier 
inconsistency in these professors of reli- 
gion. Each of those societies, by w halcv- 
er name they are called, tell the world that 
their society is a branch of the church 
Now if this be the case, all these different 
societies when united will make the true 
church complete. Here, brethren, is a plain 
contradiction as can be; for their doctrine, 
faith & religious notions are all different, as 
different as are light and darkness. Suppose 
each profession should arrive in the 
land cf eternal bliss by his particular creed, 
what kind of union would there be in hea- 
ven? Indeed we need not reason on this 
subject for one thing is certain, that the grea- 
ter number of these churches are false, or 
Christ himself is false. And as these socie 
ties increase, so the charges against us poor 
Baptists increase; and they all abuse us for 
not communing with them. Yes, breth- 
ren, they charge us of almost every thing 
but what is good, and even that our doc- 
trine came from hell, and will go back thi re; 
and st ih« same time they spread their ta- 
ble and invite us to commune wrh them. 
Now, brethren, if we commune with them, 
what better are we than the) 7 ? But I must 
contend, that we are more honest than they, 
for we tell them that they are in error, and 
we hold them as such; but they tell us that 
we are wrong, and at the &ame time and 
before the same people that they abuse us, 
they invite us with all our error us they cali 
it to come to the table \\ ith them. I ask, 
what honesty or faithfulness is there in this? 

But they say that «e are alone to be bla- 
med for all these divisions. Now, breth- 
ren, an the same principles might Paul 
have charged the church at Gallatia of 
causing all the troubles thut she \\ itnefSgd. 
But they arose solely from the seeds of dis- 
cord sown by the Judaizing teachers. 
Now if the publication of error that day 
brought forth division, why shall it not do 
the same now? We In lieve that there is 
but one true church, which was furnished 
by the diving lawgiver with all the laws 

and ordinances it will ever need; and who- 
soever duviites from these laws and form- 
ing others, is guilty of saying these lawsare 
not sufficient, or in o'her words, that they 
are not right-; end as such, reflects on the 
character of the divine lawgiver. 

Brethren, another reason why we do 
not hold with open communion is this; we 
find that communion is a divine ordinance, 
first administered by Christ to his disci- 
ples And from our best views of tbo 
scriplures, we do hon-stly believe, thai 
the Baptists hold Ifl the doctrine then 
taught. We therefore hold all who are not 
of our faith as alien to the doe'rine of the 
apostles. We cannot therefore be honest 
and commune with them. The false teach- 
ers may blunder on the truth, yet live in 
rebellion to some of ihe divine laws and or- 
dinances. I expect to write on this subject 
again, if my mind docs not alter. Yours in 
gospel bond-;. DAFJD JACKS, 

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Flatly Creek, Pasquotank county, N. C. > 

1th March, 1841. 5 

Myds.vr brethren Editors: I have once move 

taken my pen in hand to write a few lines to yon, 

in token oflovei I feel so very joyful while I sit 

reading of so many valiant soldiers marching out 

prepared for battle, as your Primitive paper give? 

an aecountof, that I want to drop a word or two 

in some corner of your paper, when it will not take 

1 up much room and haulk other letters r.f superior 

' notice. For I think surely the Primitive voice is 

a voice from heaven, and is calculated to. do much 

j good to Zion's travellers. 

j I remember reading nut long since in l?evi 18th 
chap. 4th ven where John says, he heard another 
voice from heaven, saying, COME OUT OP 
IHER, MY PEOPLE, that ye partake not of her 
j plagues, &ci It struck my mind as I was read- 
ling, that this Primitive paper was the voice that 
was meant by John's expr< ssion. What think 
, ye? As there are many things spoken of by that 
Revelator as though they were then, which means, 
I think, of things to er me, surety. But whether 
| or not this is the right meaning of the passage, 
yet I believe that the Primitive is a voice estab- 
lished by the Lord. So go on, ye valiant soldiers 
j of the cross, Fight on, tighten, fight on; lha 
crown shall soon be given. 

I have seemingly disc-en rd satan, prancing up 
and dowp the \yulls of the Primitive, while hp 



had not thought of being discovered; but when he 
was fearful of being discovered he would creep a- 
long slyly. Brethren, watch him, for he has been 
trying lo upset the Primitive. For if one would 
sit down to write some good news to his breth- 
ren, and satan can happily make his opportunity, 
ha. will creep in to put in his linger, and so cause 
many times interruption and discord and contro- 
versy among brethren This, in my opinion, is 
the intention of satan-, to use his extrlion towards 
the frustration of the designs of Deity. Wherc- 
ever the Lord begins a good work- there !.o will 
jump in and try to upset it. And this is our op- 
portunity and privilege to watch him, for what 
our Saviour said unto his disciples he said unto 
us all; watch. It is our duty to watch the devil 
and his cruel forces, and if and when it lies in our 
power lo deprive them of doing us damage in the 
progress of our religous exercises, &ci let us 
6trive lo fulfill every part of our duty, and pray 
the Lord to enable us to do it in spirit and in truth; 
for I think the Lord hath required this at our 

My dear brethren in the Primitive, permit me 
to say, that times are getting to be very difficult; 
for the devil himself is getting to he so religious 
now-a-days, lhat I have been put to my trumps a- 
bout this matter; but 1 think seeing the time is as 
it is, it requires the more diligence at our hands, 
I don't think of trying to teach you at present, hut 
only aiming to show a small part of my views on 
these things. I se« so plain how the devil is go- 
ing on now in his religious dress, well calculated 
to draw the people, and there are many in this 
part of the country who are really deceived by his 
cr.\ft;and a goodly number, 1 have no reason lo 
dispute, that have passed through the new birth. 

Brethren, ought not these things caution us, 
and stir us up lo our duties, seeing this is our 
privilege] Surely. I have been taught by sore 
experience, that the closer I stick lo my duties 
and privileges in serving the Lord, the more I am 
kt>pt from the power of satan; and all he can do to 
me then is, to drive me ch.ser and closer. But 
nothing of myself can be done to this effect, but 
all through Christ; not of hiin that willeth, nor of 
him that runneth, hut of God that showeth mercy. 
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only 
begotten Son. that whosoever believeth in him 
should not perish, hut have everlasting life. So 
when good works show forth themselves in us it 
is Christ workfng in us, which causes us to mo- 
tion that way. Let us then march along boldly, 
with our weapons of warfare, haying Christ as 
our captain; for he is said to be a leader for bis 
people. He leads them about, and instructs them 
and keeps ihem as the apple of his eye. 

We are partly destitute of preaching here in th|s 

county, but yet the presence cf the Lord is here. 
His promise is, never lo leave us nor forsake us, 
only to visit our transgressions with stripes, &ۥ 
Hut if we can bear the rod, then are we sons and 
trot bastards. Here 3 fin 1 another word of encour- 
agement: He patient in all things. If and when 
we have no preaching, be patient; if and when we 
have no little assemblies of prayer meetings, be 
patient, and if and when we have no opportunity 
of meeting with each other in sweet conversation, 
be patient; for the end of all things is at hand, 
and the time will come when we shall be set at 
liberty, &c. Only let us like faithful soldiers be 
inarms and keep our weapons in order; stand 
ready, and when we see a way open, move on. 

It has not been long since we here at Flatty 
Creek church thought we had a young minister 
raising up whose name was Benjamin P. Pendle-. 
ton; he went on so far as to become a licentiate, 
and until the brelh'en begun to talk of ordaining 
him, when he was snatched away from us to try 
the bliss of eternity. Then were our high imagina- 
tions of things shrunk down to nothing, as it were, 
seeing we were bereaved of such a blessing. Hut 
the Lord knows best what to do with us. Jt is 
our business to be patient in these things, and 
trust the, Lord in all things. He can take care of 
us, but we cannot take care of ourselves. 

So I close by subscribing myself your unworthy 
brother ja the bonds of love. 



Now Moses was a man of God, 
As we are told be had a rod; 
By which be was to firmly stand. 
And take them to the promised land. 
This rod like faith as we believe, 
And thus believing we receive; 
And grace for grace is freely given, 
Ry which we're made the heirs of Heaveni 
He cast his rod upon the ground, 
By which he did them all confound; 
And lo a serpent did appear, 
Which caused them all to quake and fear, 
The king did try what bo ooijld do, 
And so he made him serpents too; 
Hut Moses' serpent did them beat, 
And did their serpents kill and eat. 
The king did try to, keep iheni, 
And make therh work against their will; 
He made their burdens heavy now, 
And told them they should surely bow. 
We next do see the power of God, 
Their waters now were tum'd to blood; 
And now unto their sad surprise, 
Their fish did die and frogs arise. 
We now do see they were inclin'd, 
To let them go as we do find; 
Hut soon they found the frogs were dead, 
And would not let them go ahead. 


Vkimitivk IUPT13T. 

The flies and Vice, we now do hear, 
Which made them wonder, quake and foar; 
The fire, and hail, and darkness too, 
They did not know what they should do. 

But now the lamb did show, 

That they could on their journey go; • 

The hlood was put upon their door, 

That they might know God's love and power. 

Now this a type as we do see, 
Of .Jesus' blood on Calvary; 
Which on the cross he freely spilt, 
To save us from our sin and guilt. 

The angel now from heaven was sent, 
To let them know they must repent; 
At midnight now a cry was made, 
And all the flower of Egypt dead. 

They said they should no longer stay, 
And sent them off without delay; 
They soon repented as we see, 
Because they had thein all set free. 

They raised an army then so bold, 

And followed on as we are told; 

They form'd their campmont now in sight, 

And lay secure through all the eight. 

The cloud did turn and go behind, 
In order that they might bo blind; 
Hut light it was on Israel's side, 
And they could see the ocean wide. 

Now Israel cry'd and Moses pray'd, 
For they were sorely all dismayed; 
Eut soon their fears did to be, 
Because they soon would cross the seai 

Through the f\ed Sea lie makes a road, 
To lead his tribes to their abode; 
Now songs of praises did abound, 
While all their foes were lost and drown'd. 

Their foes were dead whilst they were led, 
Quite through this red and ugly sea; 
They now did know, they were to go 
To Canaan's fair and happy land. 

They now did sing, and praise their king, 
Who did such great salvation bring; 
They now did say, they w< uld obey, 
And walk the strait and narrow wayi 

B e wise to day and watch and pray, 
K ver keep in the narrow way; 
N ot turn aside, whale'er betide, 
J ust think of Jesus crucify'd. 
A nd when we leave this mortal clay, 
M ay angels bear rur souls away; 
1 n realms of bliss, may we dwell, 
N ow may we say to all farewell. 

]S1 ay we all in Christ be found, 

A nd when the trumpet it shall sound; 

Y oung and old and all must stand, 

Before the judge at his command. 


Macon, Ga. January 1st, 1811. 

Taylor.wille, S.C. Feb. 25th, 1841. 
Dear Brethren: 1 consider that there 
is but a shade of difference between the 
principles of the Campbellites and those of 

the Centre or New School Baptists. Both 
alike seem to hold that ?nen are to effect 
the conversion of sinners; that human 
means ahme are sufficient to brine: about a 
revival of religion, and that human means 
alone are sufficient to stop a revival that 
would go on if there was no opposition 
made to it. This is a doctrine often ad- 
vanced by a leading character of the New 
School party, who his been, as the com- 
mon saying is, chief cook and bottle-wash- 
er in almost all those siirs in this country, 
which 1 hey call revivals of religion; but 
which the Old School do not consider as 
being any kin to a revival of true religion, 
or as conducing to the declarative glory of 
God. Me has frequently advanced the 
opinion that revivals would go on, (in ma- 
ny instances when they don't,) if men 
were not opposed to them: and goes for 
purging the churches of the Old School 
members, seeming; to think that when the 
visible church becomes a new lump, God 
or the preachers will then be able to go on 
with the revivals; and that, the Old School 
church members keep off the millenium, 
which God will bring on as soon as the 
churches are purged of those who oppose 
or control him w-ith respect to his canying 
on the glorious revivals, 

Ano'her of the New School preachers,* 
having purged the Crooked Run church 
of two of its ministerial g; fts,f on account 

* This was the reverend Nicholas VV. 

tit was in consequence of this purging or 
ejecting from the Crooked Run church, 
thit brother Marshal McGraw came to he 
published as in disorder by the Bethel As- 
sociation in her Minutes of IS40. If to be 
opposed to the making of preachers by 
having young men that wish to follow that 
calling, to study divinity as a science, is 
disorderly, then is brother Marshal Mc- 
Graw in disorder, but not otherwise; for 
this is all the crime with which he has been 
considered chargeable. And it seems to 
me to be a droll thing to teach men theo- 
retically to preach a spiritual religion. 
For according to the New School scheme, 
the young men who are candidates for the 
ministry, are to study divinity, just as oth- 
ers study law or medicine with the view 
of praclicing them, and they are then to 
preach to the people that, We are made par- 
takers of the redemption obtained by Christ 
by the effectual application of it to us by 
his Holy Spirit. 



of their 0!d School principles, ascended in,- 
1o the pulpit lo preach, and in his preach- 
ing congratulated the New School part of 
the church or congregation, llvy had 
got shut of that m.uih of the Old School 
leaven, so that God could then go on with 
a revival at that place, ami would, no 
doubt, convert and ad I ten to the church 
for one that lie would, or perhaps could, 
while these men, who stood in opposition 
to the new schemes of the day, were kept 
within her pale. 

Hence, brethren, is the principle attrib- 
uted to tl em which you see in the Circular 
Letter of the South Carolina Primitive Hap- 
list Association, published both in (he 24 1 h 
pumber of the 5ih volume of the Primitive 
Baptist, and with the MiniUesof 1S40. 

The sentiment attributed to them the 
Association introduces in contrast with the 
principles of t he Primitive Baptists on the 
same subject, in the following manner* 
"We hold that Cod does all his pleasure, 
agreeably to Dan. iv. 35. All the inhabit- 
ants of the earth are reputed as nothing: 
and he doeth according to his will in the 
army of heaven, and among the inhabitants 
of the earth; and none can stay his hand, 
or say unto him, W hat doest thou? Besidts 
innumerable other pas-ages of scripture, as j 
Acts, ii. 23. iv. 2S Ephes i. 11. Heb. 
vi. 17,'' (and not Heb. iv. 17 ', as was by \ 
mini (ike published. The iy/h chapter of\ 
Hebrews has but sixteen, verses: nf course. \ 
there is a mistake in this place made by ' 
either the writer or the printer.) 

"They hold that you can defeat him; — ! 
that, you can keep back a revival that Cod'' 
could can y on if he had no opposition." 

This Circular Lettc r, and of course these ' 
words in lie Circular, some of the .New i 
School or Centre Baptists are fain to attri- { 
hole to me. But, brethren, I was not. at \ 
the Association till just before the close of: 
its session. I had a family bereavement., ! 
of a very afflicting' nature, about that time, ' 
that detained ire at home. But t! ere is a ! 
note below, rcfeired to at tl is item in the 
Circular, which I am willing should be at-' 
trihuted to trie, and which indeed I claim 
as my own. The Clerk of the Association 
was authorized to revise the Minutes for 
publication, and 1 was called on to assist in 
revising them. And I was privy to the 
circumstance of Mr. J. Davis's advancing 
the sentiment attributed to the New Lights 
jn the Circular, in brother VY'm. Stone's 
family: and 1 am one of the living witnes- 
ses by whom it can be proved. 

The note referred lo is in these words, 
"This very doctrine was advocated by Mr, 
■I. Davis at William Stone's, of which cir- 
cumstance there are living witnesses." I 
was a living witness of the circumstance, 
and brother William Stone, who was at the 
Association at the time the Circular Letter 
was read and approved, was another. And 
the note was annexed merely to show that 
the Association did not attribute a doctrine 
to the New School B ip'ists which they had 
never advanced or advocated. If I am 
correctly informed, that is not the only oc- 
casion on which Colonel J. Davis has aeh 
vanced that doctrine. The same sentU 
ment be repeatedjy advanced to a worthy 
Old School member of the Rock Creek 
church, viz brother Fl. Adrington,* Fie 
often told that worthy old brother, who 
was deacon of the Rock C#eefe church, that 
he stood in the way of the rovivals that 
God would or could carry on, if it wero 
not for his opposition to the new measures, 
&C. And I am entirely persuaded, that 
the Association has in her Circular aitrihu-* 
led no principle or practice to the New- 
School Baptists, but what they have ad- 
vanced or pursued at one time or other, or 
but what has been advanced or pursued by 
one or other of the persons who lake that 
side in the present schism among the Bap- 
tists. But the Association was composed 
of delegates from different and distant disr 
tricks of our State. They were not all pre-? 
sent at. the controversy between Mr. J. Da- 
vis and brother W illiam Stone, referred to 
in the note above mentioned, nor indeed 
was any of them present. But I was P re_ 
sent and heard the controversy, (though I 
took no part in it ) And as such are the 
circumstances, I have taken upon me to 
discharge a duty 1 owe to the Association 
and to the worthy brother appointed to 
write the Circular. To them you are not 
to attribute the note which is so personal, 
but to one who is well acquainted (as well 
as are many others) how personal Mr. Da-= 
vis makes it his business to be in his prea* 
ching, as well as, how heterodox he is in 
his principles. 

I am, eleir brethren, yours in the bonds 
and fellowship of the gospel. 


*SpeltEdderinglon in the Minutes of 1S25. 

The veil which covers from our sight 
the events of succeeding years, is a veil 
woven by the hand of -mercy. 




Bear Creek, Henry cminft/, G( 

31 March, 1S11. 

to matter titan manner, and avo ; d foolish 
and unlearned questions, knowing that 
i hey do gender strifes. 

The Primitive is a source of satisfaction 

long silence you have perivups concluded, 
that I have either Uft the old corner po.-t 
or become indifferent about, you. But not 
50. My reasons are these: 1st, 1 wish to 
hear from mybrelhien; and 2ndly. having 
ro'hing i,ew that is good, an< 

Deah Brethren in ( 'h i'.ist : From mv to me, but if brethren are disponed when 

error is exposed and the ideas advanced 
supported by the Moid, to say in effect 
publicly through the Primitive, I am de- 
termined not to take the advice or receive 
the reproof, or to use it as a weapon against 
believing leach other improperly, I shall certainly re- 
ihe bad is not profitable in all eases, I have the gratification in order to get 
held my peace but have not been idle, (shut of the evil. We should endeavor to 

I have nearly completed a Selection of make our communications profitable to the 
Hymns and Songs, designed for the Primi- i reader, whether they consist of historical, 
live Baptis', or any other thai may think I doctrinal, experimental, or practical mat- 
proper to use them ; in the arrangement of ter; and by this course, and giving evi- 
whieh, ! have endeavored lo exhibit a sys- ! deuce of our Christian regard for each oth- 
er, and avoiding all unnecessary abuse to- 
wards others, we may expect the Primi- 
tive Baptist to increase, and we long to en- 
joy the blessing of heating from each oth- 
er. May the Lord give us of his spirit to 
influence and guide us through this wilder- 

tern of divinity, with an easy tattle of con- 
tents, so that any person may find a hymn 
directly on any subject, without recollect- 
ing the first line. 1 hup:' lo have them out 
by fall. The book will contain about 700 
hymns and song*. 

Dear brethren. I do hope controversy I "ess of woe. I remain, dear brethren, 
will be kept on! of the Primitive, such as yours to serve. 

one brother writing in opposition to anoth- WJLLlJJM MOSELEY. 

er. If a brother thinks the views of an- — 

other is wrong, let him write him a private! P. S. In consequence of some unavoida- 
letter. But if brethren ate determined to . hlc circumstances, as the gentleman enga- 
oppose one another publielyj i da hope in [ged in printing and binding informs me, 
future they will support their posi ions by 
the scriptures of eternal trul'h, and nol cus- 
tom, supposition, and determination', &c. 
And as regards what is called the two seed 
doctrine, if il is calculated lo ben' fit saint 
or sinner, let those who think so preach it 
and welcome; hut I hope the columns of 
the Primitive w ill not be opened to the dis- 
cussion. They hive Mose's and_'thc proph- 
ets and Christ, let all hear what they 
Our paper, I ihoughi, was designed as a 

Huntington is not yet out; but. he assures 
me it shall be as soon as possible. IV. M. 


Cape Girardeau county, Missouri, 
March £>tti. 1841. 
The Baptist Banner and Western Pio- 
neer — its correspondents— the Cape 
Girardeau .Association, etc etc. Brethren: A few days ago the 

channel of communication and weapon of [Scmvcr, &.€. of December ibe 17th, 1840, 

defence ' again.- 1 our common enemy. (fell into my hands, and in perusing it, I 

Brethren, let i3s preach salvation by grace .found that the Editor together with some 

alone, and ur^e upon a I unregencrate sin- 
ners repentance toward Cod and faith in 

of his coi 'respondents had made an unpro- 
voki d altack upon myself and some of my 

our Loid Jesus Christ, and good works the j brethren in this wild country, and in speak- 
best evidence of the same we can possibly jing of us, he compares us to & jack-ass. 1 
give. But perhaps some will say, what is 'suppose that the reason of this sage Edit- 
good works? I answer, good works are or's thinking of the ass, was that he recol- 
acts of obedience flowing from a principle hctedlhat that animal in old limes rebuked 
of love to Cod, by which we are disposed a false prophet, and the Editor thinks 
to take his word lor our direciorv, and do whenever the missionaries arc repro- 
all it requires and leave undone all it for- ved for their errors, there's another jac/c- 
bids, thus evidencing we ate reconciled lo ass. 

God, Let us endeavor in our communica-j Next the Editor says,"The anti-mission- 
lions, as the great apo;>tle directed, to use jaries have rent this Association, (ibe Cape 
sound speech, which perhaps refers more jGiiaideau,) which is not the fact; but the 



triissionarie* broke ofi' froni the Associa- 
tion in disorder, heeaitse" we (in the beau- 
tiful simile of ilie Editou) jack-ass like, 
would speak the truth arid reprove them for 
the false doctrine. This may suffice as far 
as ihe Editor is concerned, by saying as n 
is said Si. Patrick's Dean said to a chap who 
sat up for a toil : 

"If that l)a true. 

The very Uo*t tliinof you ca!i (In, 

Is down again to sit." 
I shall now correct some of the blunders 
bf the correspoht/en/ of Hie Banner. He 
Says: The friends of missions only urged 

one regulation, viz: that the separation he j jged to be with bis servants always, even 
no bar to communion, and thai individuals u.ito the end of the world. 

bloody ground. I then moved tothiscoun- 
ty, about thirty years ago. From this 
-.. ou will see, that I have always lived in 
UK: bick woods; have bad to labor hard 
to support a family, but I have made rrty 
Bible mv companion, and niy views on re- 
ligious subjects are (irawn from its sacred 
pages. And. as old as I am; 1 never have 
found thai no-. k leading me astray; and as 

i have found by many years expeiience, 
that the Bible will nfctt lead astray, I be- 
lieve i shall not forsake it in my old age, 
and the older 1 get, the more I find rrty 
need. of ihe presence ol ivitn thai has proin- 

W i ! ' 

of each side should be allowed letters to join 
the party they might prefer. This if 1 
recollect right is a small mistake, for there 
was no such a proposition in the Associa- 
tion. Individuals might have talked about 
Such a compromise, but I know of no such 

We are called the do-nothing par!)-; well, 
be it so: as old and trilling as 1 am, in the 
last year 1 rode four hundred and 0(\d 
milcSj and preached fifty-seven sermons: 
and have m ver asked for a dollar, but as- 
sist in raising my crop, and through t lis 
a proposition being .before the Association; ! blessing of the Lord, I have always had 
and if this had been the cascj we could not plenty i'av myseif and family; and some for 
have consented io it, for they left us in 3 is- , my brethren when they came to see me. 
order, and nothing was left for us hut to And if J am one of the servants of the Lord, 
drop them from our fellowship. The fact j 1 am no) afraid of starving, or of my seed's 
is, we have borne with these society men | begging bread. 

for a long tinv\ and have labored to bring Brother [N'ewkcrk is also named by this 
them into the right path, but they have correspondent of Ihe Banner, in a way Io 
left Us because they were not of us. 'I ne prejudice, the pt ople against him. lie is 
children of the fiee woman, and those of a good brother, and is highly respected by 
the bond womari, cannot live in the same the -cjhwrches that stand on the old found- 
house. I atidrh 1 but the correspondent of the Ban- 
He then says: How they (meaning ihe, n er is a little mistaken when he says that 
anti-folks, as he ca 1 us,) are to get along is j Brother Newkcrk and myself are all Ihe 
another matter. Their leader, brother ! preachers we have, for we have a brother 
Thompson, is very aged — between sixty i I ol t is and brother G. M. Thompson, who 
and seventy years old — a pious old man, of a re young and able to 1 .bor. 
vtiry circumscribed talent*, who has al- Hut it is useless for rile to aitempt to cor- 
vVays denied himself the advantages of in- ! rect all the mistakes of this concspondenl; 
formation, and whose mental energy is , suffice it lo say, that the whole communica- 
tion is a tissue of misrepresentations and 
perversion 5 , calculated to give the public 
a wrong idea of onr condition, and of the 
causes of the division in our Associa- 

As old as t am, this is the first lime I 
evr appeared in Ihe columnsof a paper; and 
i hope it may be the last time 1 may be com- 
pelled lo thus in public correct the er- 
rors of men who profess to be the servants 
of God. I am much pleased with your pa- 
per, & 1 hope that God will make it useful to 
Zion's pilgrims in giving ihem confidence 
and courage, while passing through thi3 
barren wilderness of sorrow and conflict. 
1 feel that my work below the sun is al- 
most done. I shall soon quit those bleak 

how flickering in ihe socket, as a candle 
just dying away. Now it is all a mistake 
about the brethren's being led by any 
man, for they have not moved from the 
platform upon which they were constituted, 
and acknowledge no leader but the word 
of God, and his Holy Spirit, and as they 
cannot find any thing in the word of God 
to justify the doctrine or practice of the 
missionaries, they aie not willingto follow 
them in all their extravagancies and anti 
bible notions. 

As to the charge of age and ignorance, 1 
plead guilty. i was sixty-eight years obi 
hst fail, vvas born in North Carolina, and 
removed to Kentucky in the early settling 
of that Stale, which was called ihe dark and 



dnc! chilly clime, and it warms my lienrt. 
when I read your paper, and find the 
Lord lias faithful ministers yet, wlio have 
hot bowed the knee to Baal, nor received 
his mark in the forehead. As an old and 
iinworthy brother I say, go on, be faith- 
ful, be strong, be immoveable, always 
abounding in the work o.f the Lord. And 
may the grace of God be with von, to bless 
your labors and crown your work with di- 
vine success. Your brother in Christ. 

Cot/on Plant, Mississippi, ? 
March MM, J 84 1. ' $ 

Brethren Editors: Beloved in the 
Lord, Suffer voiir unworthy brother in 
tribulation to address you in a letter, as it 
}S the only way that correspondence can 
exist between us. 

Brethren, 1 mu*t and can inform you, 
that ydur unworthy writer has been reard- 
ingyour communications through the Prim- 
itive, which my very dear brethren I ad- 
mit have extolled my mind as it were to 
the highest heavens, when 1 hearthem sing- 
ing the same song and speaking the same 
thing, contending for the faith once de- 
livered to the saints. But, my beloved 
brethren,- whilst we are chunking the mis- 
sionary arid the other Arminian princi- 
ples of the day 7 , let us examine ourselves, 
ta see whether we be in the faith or not. 
My brethren and sisters in Christ, my 
dearly beloved, how or in what way should 
we contend for the faiih? Should we take 
up the armor of the spirit of antichrist to 
wage war with? Should we take our na- 
tural weipons to contend for the faith? God 
forbid, that we that pfofeSs to be Chris- 
tians of the little flock, should use any 
such weapons. 

Bat, my beloved brethren, let us take 
the sword of the spirit of our blessed Re- 
deemer, to wit, Jesus Christ, the 'chief cor- 
ner stone. Let us contend for the faith in 
the spirit of love, in the spirit of meekness, 
in the spirit of humility, and in the spirit 
of Christ. And in so doing, my dearly 
beloved brethren, we shall not offend nei- 
ther in' word nor in deed. 

We know, my Christian readers, that ma- 
ny difficulties & divisions have taken place 
for the few last years in the Baptist church; 
many of the brethren that were legally 
received into the Primitve faith have now 
separated themselves from the Primitive 
Faith, and have become members of the oth- 
er societies of the clay. And now, brethren, 

let us take heed and contend for the fa if It 
in the way that the Lord his commanded 
us, aed let us not render evil for evil; 
but lei us overcome evil with good. 

My dearly beloved brethren and sisters, 
let us farther continue to examine ourselves 
to see whether we be in the faith or not. 
Are we Christians? Do we visit the sick? 
Do we clothe the naked? D,> we feed the 
hungry? Do we divide our goods among 
the poor? De we lodge stranger's without 
pay? 0, my brethren, where is cMritj ? 
1 tear, brethren, whilst We persecute oth- 
ers that all is not right at home. Brethren, 
if there is prejudice, envy, malice, existing 
among iis, lei us pray God that we may 
be enabled through his divine spirit to 
trample such things beneath our unhallow- 
ed feet, and that our mindsmay be exerci- 
sed on divine things; that in the place of 
speaking hard sayings against our fellow 
creatures let our minds be lifted in prayer 
to Co I for them that the Lord would grant 
repentance unto them, that they might be 
made iosee through the medium of the spir- 
it the awful dilemma which they are now 
fn by nature. And 0, may Sinners return; 
unto the Lord, for he will have mercy up- 
on them, and to our Coil l\)v he will abun- 
dantly pardon. Cease to do evil, learn tor 
do well, fear Cod and keep his command- 
ments, for this is the whole duty of man. 

Dearly beloved brethren and sisters, my 
heart's desire and prayer to God is for your 
welfare both in this world and i'ri the 
wot Id to come. Pray for me and mine, pray 
God that your unworthy brother may have 
a heart of conception and a mouth of utter- 
ance, that he may proclaim the truth to a 
lost and dying wo: Id. 1 shall add no more,' 
but subscribe my name as your - unworthy 
brother in tribulation 


Brown's, Fairfield disl. S. C 
Ja/i'y 271% 1S41. 
Beloved euktiiukn Kditoks: It has 
again become my duty to; drop you a few 
lines. We still gain ground in this section; 
The churches chiefly appear in peace and 
harmony, and we receive additions by 
baptism. 1 was at a union meeting in Ker- 
shaw dist. which commenced Thursday 
night before the fifth Lord's day in Nov'r 
last, and continued till 11 o'clock Sunday 
night. There were three sermons and an 
exhortation delivered at the church in the 
day, and two at private ho'us \s at night. I 
believe the gospel was preached in its pu- 

PEllftllTlVK BAl'TIST. 


Hty, and simp] icity , with power, accord- 
ing lo the word of Gucl; and from the one- 
ness of sentiment, union, love, and bumo 
ny manifested by brethren, and the ex"iie- 
mentin the congregations, 1 believe the 
word was rightly divided, and each go! 
their portion in tly.c season. 

We have reason to hope the good deed 
Sown at that meeting, will bring forth 
much fruit to the glory of God; we Were 
made to siy, surely the Lord is in this 
place and 1 knew it not; and truly our fel- 
lowship is with the Fadier and with his 
Son, and one with another. In a word, it 
Was one of the best meetings 1 ever was at. 

Inbro. J. L. Simpson's last communica- 
tion it is slated, that the S. C. Primitive 
Association was constituted Oct'r, 1830. 
(it is only a mistake of ten years,) it was in 
Oct'r, 1S40. 1 know not where the mistake 
originated. I wish some brother who is a 
Inem her of the Springfield Primitive Associ- 
ation, to'givemc particular informal ion cith- 
er by pi i vat e letter or th to' the Prim, paper, 
fallen and where she holds her next session 
Also, how many churches compose her bo- 
dy, as the S. C. Association .-appointed bro 
Vincent Bell and my self to correspond with 
them by letter and minutes. If it is 
the will of God, we will be with them. 

Brethren, let me say to yen, take to 
yourselves the whole'armor of God, press 
forward, be always at your posts; for we 
have to wrestle not only with principali- 
ties, and powers, but with spiritual wick- 
edness in high places} but the victory will 
be ours. 1 say no more, but remain yours 
in the best of bonds. 



(j^pEldcr P. Pucketl is expected to 
preach at Red Banks, on the 3d day of 
ifune; 4th, at Greenville; 5th, at Great 
Swamp; 6th, at Conetoe;- Sth, atTarboro'; 
9th, at To'wn Creek; 10ih, at Upper Town 
Creek; llth, at Tossnot; 12th, ai Content- 
nea; 1 3 1 h , at Old Black Creek; 15 h, at. 
Memorial? lGih, at Nauhunty; Jstb, at 
Pleasant Plains, 19th and 20th, at Sandy 

Elder Wm. Burns, from Virginia, is 
expected lo preach at Richland Chapel, on 
the 24th May; 25 h, at South West, m h.; 
26th, at the Bay; 27th, at Youp's m. h. ; 
30th, at Stump Sound; 31st, at W'ards- 
ville; June 1st, at North East; 2d, at 
White Oak;- 3d, at lladnot's Creek ; -lth, 

at. Bell's: 5'h, at Newport Chapel; Cth, at 
Slocumb's Creek; Sth, at Swift Creek; 
9th. at Galloway's m. h. ; 10th. at Red 
Banks! llth, at Greenville; 12th, al Great 
Swamp; 13lli, at Conetoe; lth, at T.arbo- 
ro'; 1 5i h, at Town Creek; Kith, at Upper 
Town Creek; 17 lb, at Falls Tar River. 



North Carolina. — .1. Biggs, Sen. Williams'nn. 
R. M. G. Moore, Gernianldn. VV. w. Mizell, Ply- 
mouth. Charles Mason, Roxboro'. Bcnji Bynum, 
Speight's Bridge. I!. A vera, Avtrasboro' . .1, 11, 
ICencday, Chalk LtcI. B uf we'll Tenable, Raleigh. 
Geo. w. MoNeely, Lcaksvi.tle. Wan H. Vnnn, 
I/png Vce/r Brdge. Thomas Bagley, SniifJijieid. 
James 11. Sasser, J-Vaj/fiesboro"' . John Fruit, San- 
dy Creek., L. B, Bennett, IleathoiUe. Cor's 
Carraday, Cravensville, William Welch, Abbott's 
Creek, J. Lamb, Oamden G, H, A, U, Baihs, 
Ir, Stanhope. C. 'P: Sawyer, Powell's Point. 
Isaac Tfllery, Lapland], Thomas Miller, Eliza- 
beth City. Harris VViikerson, Went Point. Isaac 
Alderman, Moore's Creek, James Miller, Wiftdn 
Purk. David H. Canaday, French's Mills. L, P, 
Beardsley, Greenville. Isaac Meekins, Columbia, 
L. J. .1. Puckett, Richland, Wm. M. Rushing, 
IV hi It's Slo.c. 

South Carolina. — lames Ilemhree, Son. An- 
derson C. //. Charles Carter, Cambridge. B. 
Lawrence, Effingham. James Buiris, Setii Bold 
Spring. William S. Shaw, Bock Milk. Levi 
Lee, Blackv'ille. Andrew Westmoreland, Cash- 
vi\\e. Rj Hamilton, .liken. Marshal McGraw,- 
Brown's. Joh'ii Li Simpson, Coohham, ], G* 
Bowers, Hickory Hid, Wm\ Nelson, Camden, G, 
Mathews, Mount Willing. Jacoh B. Higgfns, 

Georgia. — William Moseley, Bear Creek. Al- 
ii'ii Cleveland, McDonough, John McKenney, For- 
syth. Anthony Holloway, Lagrange. P.M.Cal- 
houn, Knoxeillc. R. Reese, blatonton. Thomas 
Arnis and David w. Patman, Lexington. Joira- 
tiian iVeel, James Hollingsworth and Stephea 1 
Castellow, Macon. William D. Taylor, Union 
Hill. John w. Turner, Pleasant Jill. Joshua- 
HoxvJoin, A lairsville. Jas. M.'Rockmqre, Upatoie. 
P. II. Edwards, Georgetown. Wm. Trice, T/wn- 
aslon. Ezra McCrary, IFarrcnton. Prior Lewis,- 
Rodney. John Lassetter, Vernon. B.Pace, Van Wert.- 
L. Peacock, Cassvifle, V. D.Whatley, Barnesv'ille.- 
Alex. Garden and Thomas CiTrice, Mount '.Monte. 
Elias 0. I hawthorn, Rainbridgt J. G. wintring- 
ham, Florence. Wm. Mi Amos, GreenviWe, Ran- 
dolph Arnold, Latimer's Store. 'T. Ji Bazemor-e,- 
Ciinton. .] o i.HtovnUydquiUa . Jason Grier, Indian 
Springs. Wm. \lcE\vy, .ft/fapu/giis. Fufna Ivey,' 
Milled gerille. Wm. Garrett, 'Packer's Cabin, Jesse' 
Moore & John Hardie, Irwinton. Leonard Pratt,- 
Wliitesmlle. Edward Jones, Decatur. A, Hen- 
don, S!ii\o. A. G. Simmons, Hickory Grove 
Wm. J. Parker, Ghenuba. John Herington, Wel- 
bom's Wills, J'ames P, Ellis, PineviWe, P. tfaft- 
gard, Athens. H, Barron, Jackson, A.MiThompson, 
Fort Valley, Josiah Gresham, While Hall. Daniel 
O'Neel, Fowllon. John Applewhite, Wuunesboro'j 
J. B. Morgan &.B, P, Rouse, Friendship, Sam'l Wil- 
liams, Fuirl'lay. John Wayne, Cast's.- ILS.Ha'i'n- 


primitive baptist. 

tick, Carrollton. David Smith, Coot Spring-, Allison 
Spear, Flat Shoals, JSJoses Daniel, Bindery, Moses 
H. Denman, Marietta. James Bush, Blake]y. 
A. Burroughs, Mo'rw-e'sf!*! Roads, Samuel Hi?g- 
Asa Edwards, Houston, Richard Stephens, Sen'r. 
Tarversviile, John Stroud, Kendall, .lames Scar- 
borough, Statesbortugh; Jethro Oates, Mul- 
hrrry Grave. Robert R. Thompson, Scbt.tsville. 
Owen Smith, Troupville. Kindred Braswell, 
Duncansville. Edmund Si Chambless, Stalling* 
Store. James w. Walker, Marlborough. Edmund 
Pumas, JohnstonviXle. David Rowp.ll, Jr. Groo- 
vrrsiiiUe; Joe! Colje.y, Comngl.on, Benjamin C 
JJurns, P~A\d Hiccai David Jones, Traveller's Rest. 
VV. B. Mullens, Rrmvi/U, Willis S, Jarrell, 
Lumpkin. Thomas Everritt, Bristol. Isham 
Edwards, Wilna. 

Alabama. — I;. B. Moscley, Catawba. A. Kea- 
ton, Belmcnl. Benjamin Lloyd, La Fayette. W. 
w. Carlisle, Fredonia. Henry Dance, Daniel" 1 * 
Prairie. Win, w. Walker, Liberty Hill. Dan'l 
Gaffjrd, Greenvitr^ Samuel Moore, Snow Hill. 
John G. Walker, Milton • H'y V\ illiams, Ha'ctna. 
Jas. Daniel, Claiborne, Elias Damel,ChurchEill. 
John Bonds, Clinton, David Johnston, Leighton. 
Adam McCreary, Brooklyn: Josiah Jones. Jack- 
»on. David Jacks, ZVeiw Market. Sherrod w 
Harris, Vienna. John McQueen, Graves' Ferry, 
William Tailey, Mount Mofiak, Graddy Her- 
ring, Clayton. G. w. Jeter, Pint Lata, Samuel 
Ci Johnson, Pliasanl Grove. Wm. Crutches Hunts- 
ville, Wm, H. Cook and H'y Petty, Pickensville. 
Seaborn Hainrick, Plan fersvi lie. James Si Mor- 
gan, Dayton. Wm. Hyde, Gainesville, Rufus 
Efanrel, Jamcston, Frederick 1 lines, Gaston, Z. 
Johns, Tiara, Eli McDonald, Painsville. Wm. 
Powell, YonngsviWe. John' Bfcown, Wacooca, Silas 
Monk, Horse Shoe Bend, R. Lackey, draper. 
James F. Watson, Abbeville- David Treadwell 
and R.w. C^xlMle, Mount Hickory . Joseph H.Hol- 
loway, }l^z\e Green. Jesse Lee, Furmers- 
vi'lte. William Grtibbs, Lou'uville. Henry Ad- 
ams, Mora/ Willing. Joel [L Crtembless, Lowe* 
vil/e. Elliot Thomas', WUUamslan. F. Pickett, 
China Grove, James Grumbles, Benton. John 
M. Pearson - , DadeviWe. John D. Hofee, Jackson- 
ville, Elijah R. Berry, Cobb's Store. Willis 
Cox, Soukcehatchie. llazael Lilllefield, Ten Isl- 
ands. John w. Pellurn, /'Vawklm. Philip May, 
Belmont, A. D. Cooper, fVdUamston. John 
Harrell, Missouri. James K, Jacks, Eli/on. 
Henry Milliard, BcWville. John A. Miller and 
James Mays, OcVfuskee. Durham Kelly, Alex* 
andria, Josiah M. Lauderdale, Alliens. Wil- 
liam Thomas, Gainer's Store, John Bishop, Jr. 
CrocJ.ctlsvil/e. fames Gray, Cuseta. Thomas L. 
Roberts, MonroeviWe. James Hildreth, Pleasant. 
Plains. E. M. Amos, Midway, J. E. Albritton, 
Jenever, Joseph Holloway, Activity. 

Tennessee. — Michael BurkhaHer, Cheeksvitle. 
AaTon Compton, Somervilk. Asa Newport,. 
Meesville. .lames Maulden, Van Buren. Solo- 
mon Ruth, West ley. Wm. Croom, Jackson. Siou 
Bass, Three Forks. John w. Springer, Sugar Creek. 
William Si Smith, Winchester. Thomas Hill, 
Seviervilk. Thos. B. Yeates, Lynchburg, C.T. 
Echols, Mifflin. Aaron Tison, Motion. George 
Tamer, W overly. Ahner Steed, Mulberry, Henry 
Randolph, Snodysville. Pleasant A. Wilt, Cheek's 
X Roads, .1. Cooper,, Vnionville. Michael Bran- 
son, Long Savannah. Jas> H. Holloway, Hazel 

Green. William MeBee, Old Town Creep, Ben.: 
jamin w. Harget, Chcrryville, Roherl Gregory^ 
Citroulh's >1 Roads. John Seal lorn-, Shady Grove, 
gard, Davis's Mills. Evan Davis, Grape Spring, 

Mississippi. — Worsham Mann, Columbus. Wil- 
liam Huddleston, Thomaslon. Nathan TifnS, 
Kosciusko. Jonathan D. Cain, Wutcrford. Na- 
than Morris, Lexington. Charles Hodges, 
Cotton Gin Fort. Bejamin E. Morris, lFheel- 
ing, Simpson Parks, Lockharl's Store, Mark 
Prewett, Aberdeen, William Ringo, ILnniMon. 
James M. Wjlcrii, Louisville. Edm'd Beeman 
and Thomas Hi Dixon, Macon. John Erwin, 
Linkhorne, Herbert D. Buckham, Pontotoc, Wil- 
liam Davis, Houston. Wm.H Warren,- Dekalb. C. 
Nichols, Stump Bridge. Woolen Mill, CoaksviUe, 
John Davidson, Carrollton. Thomas Mathews, 
Black Hawk. Ai Bolters, Fulton. J. R. Gold- 
ing, Bc/tefontaine, 

Florida, — James Alderman, China Hilt; Di- 
vid Callaway, Cherry Lake. John F. Hagan^ Mon- 
ticAlo. Henry Davis, Mil/On, 

Louisiana. — Eli Headen, Marburyville. Thos< 
Paxton, Greensbort)'. 

Missouri. — Joel Fer<riison, Jackson 

Arkansas. — John Hart, Pine Wood, M. d 
Bonrland, Ozark. 

Illinois. — Richard M. Newport, Grand View, 
Thomas w. Martin, East Nelson. 

Indiana. — Peter Saltzman, New Harmony. I- 
saac w< Denman, Gallatin, 

Ohio. — Joseph II. Flint, Trentan. John Bv 
Moses, German! on, 

Kentucky. — Levi It. Hunt, Manchester. Wash'-' 
i union Watts, Co-neliasvi\\e. Levi Lancaster, 
Canton. James Holloway, Fair DeuWng, Denv 
cey Burgess, Salem, 

Virginia. — Rudolph ~Rorp.r, Be}-ger's Store. John 
Clark, Fredericksburg. Wm. w. West, Dumfries. 
William Burns, Halifax C, II, Jesse Lankfofd,-'s, Elijah Hanshfongn, SomerviWe. Wil- 
son Davenport, While House, Arthur w- Eanes, 
Bdgeh'tll, James B. Collins, Burnt Chimneys. 

Pennsylvania. — Heriieklajb West, South Hill. 
Joseph Hughes, Gum Tree. 

New York. — Gilbert Beebe, New Vernon* 

Massachusetts. — James Osbourn, Wobunii 


Jas. Hembree.Sr. S3* 
Kamtrd Moore, 
Rufus Daniel, 
Josiah Grcsham, 
E. A. Meatless, 
Cynthia Whalle)', 
Fnrna Ivey, 





Thos. J. ftiee, $1 
John Bonds, 5 

Ktl win-Harrison, * 
John Scallorn, I 
Joshua VVilhurn, I 
Nich'-i Gammon, 1 
Hrinklcy Bishop, I 

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VOL. 6. 

SATURDAY, APRIL 21, 1811. 

No. 8. 




Jacksonville. Ben/on counh/. ,/I/a ? 
January 31,?/ ', 1841. j ! 
Beloved BitETriffiEj*: You may ihiiYk 
it a little strange, Have not seen • 
my name in tbe little "Prim." during the i 
past year; but if you were acquainted with 
the bounds of my labors in the minis! rv, i 
you would not be much surprised. VVej 
have a scope of country sit least sixty by, 
forty miles, that ibere is only one ordain-,! 
ed minister of the gospel besides myself of 
the Primitive order; and consequent!) , my 
time has been given entirely lo preaching 
the word, unbiassed by the traditions anrl : 
Opinions of men. In consequence of 
which, all of the a'ntirhristian church inj 
(hese parts" has been arrayed against me, &i 
you may depend upon it, that the Ashdod , 
family or Ish'maelites are numerous in ma-; 
by places here, '-for the desolate hath ma- j 
ny more children than she which hath a| 
husband. Now we, brethren, as Isaac 
was, are the children of promise; but as 
then, he that was born after the flesh per- 1 
iecuHed Mm that was born after the spirit, 
even so it is now. Nevertheless, what; 
aaith the scripture? Cast out the bond 
Woman and her son: for the son of the; 
bond woman shalf not be heir with the son! 
of the free woman. So then, brethren, we, 
are not children of the bond woman, but of 
the free." 

FroYfj the course pursued by the Ishma- 
elites toward me, I have to say of them as 
our Saviour said to the Jews; they are of 
their father the devil, and the works oi 
their father they wid do. And the devil 

being a Ii?r and (lie father of lies, we need 
riotbe surprised if bis children act in accor- 
dance wit)}, him, being influenced by his 
spirit. Fur when they found thai Ihey 
conhl take no advantage of the doctrine 
held and preached by me, they would 
strike at my private character, g'^ing be- 
fore an<l endeavoring to prejudice the minds 
of thep'edple against me, and would say 
any and every thing lhat their old dada 
would tell them; but all to no purpose, for 
congregations have increised instead of 
decreased. I have endeavored amidst every 
opposition to pursue a straight forward 
course in the work of the Lord, determin- 
ed lo know nothing amort"; men save 
Jesus Christ and him crucified; and contend 
for the faith once delivered to the saints"; 
by giving the trumpet a certain sound, so 
as for the saints to rally around the stand- 
ard of King Emanuel. 

During the past year I have been preach- 
ing from sixteen to twenty-five times a 
month; and although persecution has raged, 
yet it has pleased the great head ol the 
church to smile npon us, and give increase 
to his words; for it has been fu I iy manifest- 
ed, that the Lord was with us, and that to 
bless. In the hounds of our infant live 
Macedonia Baptist Association, we have 
had a gradual increase the pa c t year. The 
churches that I supplied being «ix in num- 
ber, hove experienced a refreshing ftorh 
the presence of the Lord, and some added 
to the churches. Almost every meeting 
we have met at the water side to perform 
the ordinance of baptism, and can truly 
say. thai we have realized the promise of 
JesiiPj' '-Lo i am with you alway, even un- 
to the end of the world." Saints were made 
to iejaice while sinners would cry and sriy, 
what must 1 do lo be saved. And some 
of our new-fangled folks, or half Bsptists, 



would look on with astonishment, and say, 
I cannot tell the cause of Sorell's travelling 
and preaching as he does, and will not 
have any recompence for his services." 
Here was a secret that they ccuid not com- 
prehend, did not know any thing, only, as 
natural brute beasts, had not learned that 
it was of necessity that we (the ministers 
of God) preach; and that God never was, 
no, nor never will be, frustrated in his de- 
signs: and that hfi has the prerogative of 
calling, qualifying, and sending whom he 
will. Hence it is, that we have this treasure 
in earthen vessels, that the excellency of 
the power may be of God and not of us. 

We are troubled on every side, yet not 
distressed; we are perplexed, but not in 
despair; persecuted, but not forsaken; cast 
down, hut not destroyed; always bearing 
about in the bodv the dying of the Lord 
Jesu^, that the life also of Jesus might be 
made manifest in our body. As it were 
in the days of the apostles so it is now, 
they had to preach under all and every 
circumstance; and just so now, whenever 
God calls a man, he may make excuses, 
but all to no purpose, he has to go, and 1 
am persuaded that he will preach at the 
very time, and to the same people that God 
intended, even if in graduating he should 
have to suffer what Jonah did. So then, 
when he goes he preaches the preaching 
that God bid him, and goes with a thus 
saith the Lord, bearing tidings. So then I 
have to acknowledge with saint Paul, "if 1 
do this willingly, I have a reward: but if 
against my will, a dispensation of the Gos- 
pel is committed unto me, what is my to- 
ward then? verily, that, when I preach the 
gospel, I may make the gospel of Christ 
without charge, that I abuse not my power 
in the gospel." 

We have many willing preachers in 
those days, but not very many that preach 
of necessity. We may always know the 
one from the other, the one that goes of 
necessity has the honor and glory of God at 
heart, the good of immortal souls, and peace 
of his own mind; consequently, love is the 
main spring to action; love to Go I, love to 
man, love to an eased mind; so that lie 
may have a cor. science void of ode nee to- 
ward God and toward man; and not for 
the sake of filthy lucre. And instead of 
talking about dead babies, dead fathers and 
mothers, he will tell about the love of God 
in the gili of his Son, to die that we might 
live, and what it cost him to procure eter- 
nal redemption ir>t us, and thai he ever 

lives to make intercession for us, accord- 
ing to the will of God, and that we (the 
church) are blessed with all spiritual bless- 
ings in Christ Jesus, and that these bless- 
ings are predicated upon us being chosen 
ofGod in Christ. Jesus before the founda- 
tion of the world, that we should be holy 
and without blame before him in love, &c. 
The v\irlirig preachers, or wool gather- 
ers, have a certain mark so that you need 
not be deceived by them, ffyou will on- 
ly notice for the mark, when they appear 
before a congregation, you may see that 
they vie with Lucifer himself for pride, 
with a great deal of apparent sanctity, anil 
appear, really, more like a New york dan- 
dy, than a minister of the meek and howly 
Jesus; nnd after taking a text, have very lit- 
tle use for the Bible, but endeavor to dis- 
play their talents, talk a good deal about 
Sabbath breakers and their punishment, 
appear very zealous for the law, tell the 
good effect of Sunday schools and of the 
society system generally, preach much a- 
boat people dying, and what such, and 
such a saint said just before they died, and 
the advantage s of becoming religious, and 
then teii about some reprobate dying and 
his doleful situation; Hnd in a word, use 
all of their ingenuity to operate on their 
animal passions. And as soon as they get 
them raised to a proper height, having ob- 
tained the desired end, now for the reward; 
consequently, under agents to carry the 
hats round, &urge the people to contribute 
liberally, without which they will hive 
to desist from preaching and go to work; 
some how or rather it always happens, 
when the congregation is the largest on- 
Sunday, consequently no pay no preach. 
When I see this, 1 say, filthy lucre; men, 
and devil made preahers, cursed children^ 
f.dse apostles, deceitful workers, trans- 
forming themselves into the apostles of 
ChiisUno marvel for satan himself is tras- 
formed into an angel of light; therefore, it 
is no great thing il his ministers also be 
transformed as the ministeis of righteous- 
ness; whdse end shall be according to their 
works. Nevertheless, the foundation of 
God standeth sure, having this seal, the 
Lord knowelh them that are his. 

Brethren, stand last in i he liberty 
wherewith Chiist hath made us free, and be 
not entangled again wi'hthc yoke of bon- 
dage, t am yours. d< ar brethren, in hope 
of eternal life, which God that cannot lie 
premised before the world began. 




Burnesville, Monroe county ; Ga. } 
Feb. 23rd, 1841. $ 

Dear Brethren: WfaUe our blessed 
Lord and m;isler was tabernacling in the 
flush, he was pleased to call poor illiterate 
fishermen, to be his disciples and said nnio 
them, follow me, and I will make you fish- 
ers of men; ye shall catch men, &.c. &c. 
This plainly argues, tint those men though 
they were poor illiterate fishermen, should 
be minislers of the New Testament, that 
should preach the gospel in power and de- 
monstration, that they should be the in- 
struments in his hand- in bringing men to 
the knowledge of the truth, and catch men 
in the gospel net. 

Now in order to illustrate our view, 
we will notice the literal fisherman. Be- 
hold the lad with rod in hand, bending 
over the flood; others with nets and seines, 
and so &n to the large fishing vessel. Will 
you but criticise a little on these fishers.and 
see how ingeniously their means are con- 
nected with their plan. The hook is made 
fast to the line, and the line to the rod, and 
the rod in the hand of the fisherman, the 
hook concealed in a tempting bait. Be- 
hold how beautiful the means are connect- 
ed with the plan. But to the great fishing 
vessel that ploughs the briny deep in quest 
of whales. The watchman is stationed on 
deck with harpoon in hand — a harpoon is 
an instrument of iron or s'eel, with barbs 
or beards something similar to what fishing 
boys calls giggS only on a larger scale, and 
is used by fishermen in taking whales — the 
harpoon is fastened to a large cable, ami the 
cable is made fast to the vessel. Thus are 
the means connected with the plan. The 
watchman or harpooner is stationed on 
the walls or deck, with the harpoon in his 
hand; whenever he has an opportunity, he 
throws the harpoon into the (ish, wliich is 
made fast by its barbs in the flesh of the 
creature; thus is the poor fish safe, the har- 
poon fastened in him, and that to the ca- 
ble, and the cable to the vessel. Vain are 
all his exertions to escape, lie may plough 
the foaming billows, force himself to the 
bottom of the briny dei p, seek to escape 
by flight; nay, he may lash the surging bil- 
lows in vain, for the harpoon is fastened in 
him, & that to the cable, & the cable to the 
vessel. By this lime the harpooner gives 
him a second harpoon, which retards his 
progress and weakens his strength, A 
third harpoon brings him very near the 
jaws of death. Me next makes for the 
shore, seeking res! but finds none, being 

reduced to alow ebb; his mighty strength 
is all gone, and he unable to escape or help 
himself. A fourth harpoon guided by 
skill, gives the finishing blow. 

Except' ye repent, ye shall all likewise 
perish. Will you but turn your eye for 
a moment to the humble penitent, the tru- 
ly convicted sinner, in whose heart the nail, 
arrow, or harpoon ol keen, heart-piercing, 
convicting grace, is guided by the spirit of 
unerring wisdom, and fastened by the mas- 
ter of assemblies in a sure place. Peace 
has forsaken his bosom, in vain he search- 
es for a resting place; peace, the balm of 
life, has mounted aloof on the wings of the 
wind and is gone. About this time he 
receives a second nail, arrow, harpoon, or 
shaft of conviction from Jehovah's quiver; 
which makes him cry, O, wretched man 1 am, who shall deliver me from the 
body of this death? To work this mangoes, 
and that in his own strength; he flies to the 
law for justification, but there he receives 
the third arrow, or shaft, from Jehovah's 
quiver; which lays him low, for it is writ- 
ten in the law, that cursed is every one that 
continucth not in all things written in the 
book of the law to do them; and he lhat 
offends in one, is guilty of all, Here the 
sinner is stripped of all his good works, 
and his garments of self- righteousness are 
taken from him, and his hope of justifica- 
tion by the deeds of the law cut off. He 
will now lay his hand upon his breast 
and acknowledge guilty, guilty, before 

Here is a man that will and does pray in 
I good earnest. He seeks God, a sin-pardon- 
] ing God, as searching lor hidden treasures. 
j Sleep departs from his eyes, and slumber 
; from his eye lids; visit him if you please 
I at the lonely hour of midnight, and hear 
1 his groaus. His bed is a witness to his 
; groaning, his couch is wet with tears. Or 
I behold him in the silent grove, pouring out 
! his whole soul unto God in prayer and tears 
of contrition, his head wet with dew, and 
j locks with the drops of the night. He re- 
1 turns to his house with a soul overwhelm- 
ed with sorrow, godly sorrow, sorrow for 
I sin and because of sin.- The night to such 
: an one is of almost endless duration, he can 
| in truth alopt the language of Job and say, 
when shall I arisajjand the night be gone? 
I am full of losings to and fro, unio the 
dawning of the day. So am 1 made to 
possess months of vanity, and wearisome 
nights are appointed to me. Even to-day 
is my complaint bitier, my stroke is heav- 



ier than rev groaning. O, that T knew 
where I might find him! that I might come 
even to his feat? I would order my cause 
before him. and fiii my month with argu- 
ments. Job, vii. "4 — xxiii. 3, 4. This 
man pleads with God a« a man pleads wilh 
his neighbor, seeks God by day 
and by night, and cries mightily unto him. 
The breaching of his soul is prayer: God be 
mereif Lil onto me a ."inner; if Hibu wilt. 
thon canst make mc whole. Lord he mer- 
riful nnio me. Lord save, or I pefrish; 
and lieal my soul, L>r I have shifted. Thus 
lie is brought down to the very verge of 
death, reduced toex'reme poverty, brought 
forth to see and realize his own inability to 
extricate himself f.-om that awful labyrinth 
of sin and misery which he S3es and feels 
himself exposed to. He sees and feels his 
own righteousness to be filthy rags, the last 
ray of hope of justification hy good works 
or the deeds of the law, is snatched from 
him, he eric, weep«, mourns, and pours 
out his whole soul unto God, in prayers 
and lamentations: O, wretched man that 
I am, who shall deliver me from the body 
of this death? wretched, ruined, undone, 
lost, lost, forever lost. No scape goat 
to look to for protection, no eye to pity nor 
arm to save, no daysman be'twixt us, that 
might lav his hand upon -us both. Job, ix. 


Farmtrsville, Alabama,} 

June ISM, 1840. S j 

What is Man? Psa'l. 8th; 4. Man was ' 
in original state, a very noble and exalted . 
creature; being placed as the head arid j 
lord of this world, having all the creatures ; 
in subjection to him The powers and op- 
erations of his mind were extensive, ca- J 
pacious, and perfect; and capable of eontem- I 
plating upon the works of his God, with i 
a great deal of pleasure and delight; arid! 
of performing the will of Ids creator, with- 
out the least degree of swerving, or devia- 

Man's great excellency a! first was a per- 
fect conformity lo the divine pattern. God 
created man in hisown image, in the image 
of God created he him. Gen. \,'Z1. This in- 
cludes as appears to my mind, the simili- 
tude of God in the soul, as it is an intelli- 
gent, free, spiritual, and immortal being. 
Some assign this to he tke reason of the 
law, whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man 
•half hit blood be shed; for in the image of 

God made he man. Gen. C. A moral 
resemblance in its qualities, and perfec- 
tions. Man wa« conformed to God in true 
holiness. The apostle insinuates, when 
he sets forth a sanctification of corrupt 
man, by the expression of renewing him 
rn knowledge, righteousness and holiness,- 
after the image of Gi>d, or the creator. 
Eph. 4 2-3, 24. Col. 3. 10 The reno- 
vation of things being; a res'oring of them 
to their primitive state, and is more or less 
perfect b) it'proporlion lo,or distance from, 
the original. 

Man's understanding was enriched wiihr 
knowledge, which was neither acquired 
by stud v, nor confined to this or the other 
thing. Besides, he had such a knowledge 
of God, as was sufficient lor his duty and 
felicity; he discovered almighty power, 
and admirable wisdom, and infinite good-* 
ness from their effects, in creating the 
world- The image of God was likewise 
resplendent in man's conscience, the seat 
of practical knowledge, and treasury of 
moral principles. The directing ficulty 
was sincere, and uneornipted; it was free 
from all prejudices which might render it 
an incompetent judge of good and evil. 
There was also a divine impulse on the 
mind of man; rpiritua} reason kept its 
throne, and the inferior faculties observed 
an easy and regular subordination to its 

The image of God consisted, though in an 
inferior degree, in the happy state of mans 
which was the consequence and accession 
to his holiness and heaven; he resembled 
that infinite, blessed, and holy being, as 
he was perfectly exempt from ail evil, 
which might allay or lessen felicity, and 
enjoyed those pleasures which are worthy 
of his pure nature and glorious state. This 
happiness had relation to tne two natures 
which entered into man's composition, the 
animal and sensitive; and this consisted 
both in the excellent disposition of his or- 
gans, and the enjoyment of convenient ob- 
jects. His body being formed immediate- 
ly by God, was not liable to defects, which 
proceed from the weakness of second 
causes. No blemish, or disease, which 
are the footsteps of sin, were to be found 
in man; all his senses were quick and live- 
ly, able lo perform wiih facility, vigor and 
delight, these operations. Not only were 
his organs excellently disposed, but there 
were convenient objects to entertain his 
mind; he enjoyed nature in its original pu- 
rity, Browned with the benedictions of an 



aft-wise God, before it was blasted with 
the curse, the word all harmony & beauty, 
becoming the goodness of the eternal crea- 
tor; and not as it is since the fall of mm, 
disorder and deformity in many parts, the 
effect of his justice. The earth was liber- 
al to man of all ils treasures, the heavens 
of their light and sweetest influence, and 
he was seated in the garden of Eden, a place 
of great beauty and delight. But his chief 
happiness consisted in union with God, 
by knowledge and love He saw the admi 
rable beauty of the creator through the 
transparent vail of creatures; and from 
hence there arose in his soul a pleasure solid 
and satisfying. 

There was in man's dominion and pow- 
er over i he creatures, a shining part of God's 
image. God gavehim the solemn investiture 
of his dignity, when he brought the crea 
tures to receive their names from him; 
which was a mark of homage, and a token 
of his empire, to command them by their 
names. Psai. S. 6, 7, 8. Thus holy and 
blessed was man in his Primitive slate. 

Man of all creatures on earth was capable 
of a law, for law, being the decaration of 
the superior's will requesting obedience 
threatening punishment on the failure 
thereof. There must be a principle of 
reason and choice in that nature, which is 

ciple was planted in the reasonable soul, to 
obey God in any instance wherein he did 
prescribe his pleasure; accordingly, to de- 
clare his sovereign right in all things. 

God entered into covenant with man. 
God forbids him to cat of the tree of know- 
ledge of good and evil, for in the day thou 
eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. This 
established an inseparable connection be- 
tween duty and felicity, disobedience and 
misery. In his threatenings of death upon 
disobedience, the promise of life upon hid 
obedience was implied, and easily suggest- 
ed itself to the rational mind. Man was 
created perfectly holy, but in a natural, 
therefore mutable state. He was invested 
with power to prevent his falling, yet un- 
der a possibility of it. He was complete 
in his own order, but subject to sinful im- 
pressions; being set upon by the devil, ha 
was conupted and seduced by him, and in- 
volved bo'h himself and all his posterity, 
from man's earliest day down to the pre- 
sent moment. 

The honor and majesty of the whole law 
was violated, in the breach of that holy 
and divine precept; for in that grand apos- 
tacy manv, very many, sins were inclu- 
ded, infidelity and unbelief not excepted, 
God said: Of the tree of knowledge of 
good and evil, thou shall not eat of it; for 

governed by it, both to discover the an- Lin the day thou catest thereof, thou shalt 
thority that enjoins it, to discover the mat- surely die. This was the first step to ruin, 
ter of law, and to determine itself out of J as appears by the order of the temptation, 
judgment and election to obedience, as It was first said by the devil, ye shall be as 
most excellent to itself, and advantageous to I gods — to flatter ambition. Infidelity is 
the performer. As therefore reason made greatly aggravated, a3 appears to my mind; 
man capable of a law, so it wjs impo-sible i tor it implies an accusation of God of envy, 
he should be exempt from a law; for as as if he had denied them the perfections 

the notion of a God, that is of the tust^su- 
preme being, excludes all possibility of 
obligation of another, and of subjection to 
a law, so the quality of a creature includes 
the valuation of dependence and natural 
subjection to the will of God. 

The law of nature, to which man was 
subject upon his creator, contains those 

becoming the human nature; and they 
might ascend to a higher one than that 
wherein they were placed, by eating the 
foi bidden fruit of falsehood. As if God 
had threatened to inflict a punishment up- 
on man's disobedience, which he had no 
design to do. And what heightens this is, 
that when mat) had distrusted the fountain 

moral principles concerning good and evil j of truth, he gave credit to the father of lies; 
which have an essential equity in them, and ]as appears by his compliance, the teal eVi- 
are the measures of his duty to God, to Icience of man's faith. This sin includes in 
himself, and to his fellow creatures. This jit, prodigious pride. Man was scarcely 
"Jaw was published by the voice of reason, I out of a state of nothing, no sooner created, 
anil is holy, just, and good. And the ob- but he aspires to be as God; not content 

ligation to it is eternal, it being the un- 
changeable will of God, grounded on the 
natural and invariable relation between 
God and man, and between man and Ihe 
creatures, besides ihe particular directions 
of the law of nature. This general prin- 

with his image, man aflt cted an equality to 
be like God, in his immutable attributes- - . 
Man would rob God of his eiei nity, to live 
without end, to erjoy an immortality not 
depending on God's will, but absolute, 
which is proper to God alone; of his $ov&- ( 



reignty to command, without dependence; 
and of his wisdom »o know all things, with- 
out reserve. 

Horrid ingratitude. Man was appointed 
heir of all ihingvyt undervaluing his pic- 
sent pcwtion,he entertains a project of im- 
proving his happijness-; the excellent state 
hereby conversed upon hi n, was a strange 
obligation to pay so small an aek'fiowledg- 
ment to the law. The use of a!l the gar- 
den was allowed him, a tree excepted. 
Now such variety and plenty, to be infli- 
nied with an mtemp- rale appetite to eat of 
the forbidden fruit, and to hreal; a com- 
mand so equal and easy "m all its bearings, 
what is it but despising the rich goodness 
of his great benefadoi? Bloody cruelty to 
all, himself and his posterity down to the 
present age of the world. God had made 
man a depository in a matter of infinite 
moment, that is, of his own happiness and 
that of all mankind; but giving a ready ear 
to the tempter, he betrays, and at once vio- 
lates his God's law and becomes a sinner; 
yea, a great sinner; yes. a dead sinner, 
guiltv of the highest impurity and cruelty. 
By voluntary disobedience man fell from, 
and lost his original rectitude and perfec- 
tion of nature; which consisted in know- 
ledge, perfection, holintss and happiness. 
Gen. 1. 20. Col. 3. 10. Eph; 4. 24. 

Man's nature was depraved, polluted, 

ther by offering up all hi* gold and silver. 
For man thus to a"t, is abominaiion in the 
sight of God, and iherefore God will hold 
such worshippers accountable in a coming 
day, when he shall judge the world in 
righteousness, and will not hold them guilt- 
less. Though man being incapable to satis- 
fy for his own sins, or the world of man- 
kind io general^ God would not suffer all 
mankind to perish; because, God intended 
to mike a foil display of the terrors of his 
justice, and his divine resentment for sin, 
the violation of his righteous law. There- 
fore he appointed his Son, his own Son, to 
satisfy for the breach of it, by becoming a 
proper sacrifice for sin. God being immor- 
tal, could not sustain all these principles of 
the law which man had violated, without 
taking the mortal nature of man upon him, 
without assuming flesh and blood. For it 
is sard in lleb 2 13,14: And again: I will 
put my trust in him. And again: Behold 
I and the children which God hath given 
me. Forasmuch then as the children are 
partakers of flesh and blood, he also him- 
self took part of the same, that through 
death he might destroy him that had the 
power of death; that is, the devil The 
divine being received such satisfaction, 
such ample satisfaction for sin, by the suf- 
ferings of his Son, can honorably forgive 
sin, or his creatine man, who was the 

and corrupted; his understanding darken- 1 transgressor. Rom. 3. 25, 26. 
ed, his conscience defiled, bis will obsti- 1 Brethren, tlv above doctrine must be 
nate and rebellious, his whole soul ruined true, if we believe thnt an alonement for 
and not one part nor particle of grace in it, J sin is an effectual method to answer the de- 
or the image of that spirit that created it. mands of an offended God, is the first great 
His affections carnal and sensual, all his blessing guilty man stood in need of. Mic. 
Ihoughts uninterruptedly sinful & wicked; 6. 7. The very first discoveries of grace, 
3'ea, exceedingly sinful. Well might St. 1 which was known to man after his fall, im- 
Paul say to his Roman brethren, in chap. ! plied in them something of this great, full, 
3rd, speaking of man in general: Their and complete atonement. Gen. 3. 15. The 
throat is an open sepulchre, with their , train of ceremonies, which was appointed 
tongues they have used deceit, the poison by God himself, in the Jewish chinch, are 
of asps is under their lips, whose mouth is plain significations of this great, full, and 
full of cursing and bitterness, their feet . complete atonement made bv .lesus Christ, 
swift to she I blood, destruction and mise- j by shedding his own blood on the Roman 
ry are in their ways, and the way of peace cross. God by revelation revealed it to 
have they not known, the fear of God is the old prophet*, and they being immedi- 

not before their eyes. And a short way of 
communication: Man's whole mind and 
heart is a nest of all manner of abomina- 

Man, sinful man, is not able to make any 
satisfaction to God for his own sins; nei- 
ther can he make any satisfaction for his 
neighbor's, nor any part of God's fallen 
race, by all his acts of benevolence and 
learning; not by any part of his labor, nei- 

alely under the influence of the Holy Spi- 
rit, declared it to the people. A numbe.r 
of the first prophecies explain and show, 
that Christ was to come and to die for an 
atoning sacrifice for the sins of his people. 
Dan. 9 24—2(5 Is. 53 5. .lesus taught 
his disciples the doctrine of atonement for 
sin, by hi* own death. Mat. 20. 2S. 1. 6. 
51. .Luke, 22. 19. For one moment le- 
flect on the terrors of soul and agonies of 



death which our great Redeemer sustained J peace, and happiness prevailed among those 
a little before his death, which were suffi- j recently amalgamated Christians. Hut 
•nt proof that he endured punishment in j tilings were not permitted to continue in 


his soul which was due to sin. Mark 14. this peaceful condition lone, for several 
S3. Heb. 5. 7. 

I say that the apostles preached salvation 
by Christ, and not by works, least any man 
should boast, [m their day.) How vain sire 
all the labors of mankind, to fe a tempt to 
prove salvation in any otlvr way, only 
through the merits of Christ's blood; for 
the blood of Christ cleanseth from all sin. 
More amazingly strange ami unreasonable 
is the doctrine field out by the church of 
Rome, and the missionists, when it is only 
through the merits of Christ's blood that 

zealous missionary preachers coming in 
among us, new churches were constituted, 
and constituted on another abstract of faith. 
The abstract alluded to, was taken from 
the Encyclopedi i of Religious Knowledge; 
an abstract very exceptionable both in 
principle and phraseology. The churches 
thus constituted, united with the Zion 
Association, with which the Yellahushy 
was in close union and correspondence. 
There were also propositions offered by 
those churches, as a condition of their join- 

we cm have access to a throne of grace; ing, to so alter the constitution of the As- 
and without it we can never have repent- sociation as to prevent the exercise of the 
ance, and by it we have our very existence mission question from becoming a bar to 

and all we have in the present work!-. And 
1 hope and do believe, that by the merits 
*»-f that blood we shall wear a crown of ev- 
erlasting life, and not by the many sought 
out inventions of the present day. Breth- 
ren, I trust the Lord. Amen. 



Troy, Yellabushy county \ Mississippi,} 
January 21th, 1S41. 5 
Beloveo brethren: I" have seen a 
few scattering Nos. of your paper, have 
observed it to be a medium of intercom- 
munication among churches and brethren 
of the Old School Baptists, therefore, per- 
mit a strange and an afflicted brother to 
communicate (through the same channel) 
to your readers and the Christian public, 
some of the trying scenes that myself, 
and the Baptists in this section have pas- 
sed through of late. 


The churches, the abstract, the proposi- 
tions were all objected to by seveial breth- 
ren, but objections were overruled by 
! numbeis and all received. 1 at that lime 
informed the Association, that the abstract 
did not contain my faith and was objec- 
tionable, but religious zeal, or religious 
j frenzy, prevailed, and the principle con- 
tained in the abstract, such as the general 
I provision in the atonement, universal in- 
j fiuenee ofthe Holy Ghost; (or the univer- 
sal strivings of the Spirit, as it is more 
commonly called.) freewill; Arminianism, 
&c. These with heated missionary ser- 
mons were zealously diffused by those prea- 
chers through both Associations and coun- 
try. This course, as in all other cases so in 
the present, brought on their train of evils; 
disunion, discoid, division and unhappiness; 
for, previous to the October session of the 
Yellabushy Association for 1S39, four of 
her ehurches entered up resolutions, de- 

It was in March, of the year 1S35, that j elating unfellowship with the mission in- 
I settled my present residence, in what was I stitutions of the day, and shut their pulpit 
then called Choctaw purchase. At that , doors against missionary preachers; And 
time there were but two Baptist churches, | one of the churches resolved not to grant, 
and but two Baptist preachers in this part nor receive letters to nor from missionary 

of North Mississippi; (more than 100 miles 
square,) consequently calls for ministerial 
services were frequent and pressing. I 
responded to these calls to the extent of 
my ability. Churches were constituted, 
an Association (the Yellabushy) organized 
the same year. 

The Baptists composing these churches, 
and Association, were heterogeneous, mis 
sionary and anti-missionary ; but the sub- 
ject was not detrimentally agitated for a 
time, consequently, union, harmony, 


When the Association met, so anxious 
were both parties to get hold of the sub- 
ject that it was ushered in out of order; 
nor did it ever after get in order, for ali 
rules of order, respect for the Association 
or the Moderator, were disregarded, and 
the Association closed without any thing 
like decision on the subject, but to widen 
the breach and increase the bad state of 
feeling. A re-union appeared hopeless, at 
which my feelings may be conceived but 



not expressed; for although T have ever be- 
lieved the present, or modern, mission 
system as practized in this country to be 
anti scriptural, yet 1 could no} find in 
my heart at no time a willingness to sep ir 
ate from my brethren for their .zeal Tor ihe 
spread of the gospel, though i ear. not sub- 
scribe to their plan. But why tails of their 
system, it is their erroneon- doctrines and 
evil practices that cannot be tolerated. 

Bui I had no time i<- secede, far the nexi 
Saturday alter the Association was confer- 
ence day in Antioch church, where :nv 
membership then mul now is; when broth- 
er VVm. Miater, a member and an ordairi&l 
minister in the church, who was Modera- 
tor for the day, not only neglected hut | 
actually refused lo invite (according to the i 
practice of the church,) brethren members 
of those churches that resolved as above. 
This conduct was remonstrated against by 
myself, but the church did not interfere, j 
Jt should be kept in mind, that the church 
was about equally divided, missionary 
and anti- missionary. At a proper time 
on the same day, I objected to the holding 
a protracted meeting in the meeting house 
by two missionary brethren; and at the 
same time gave notice, ih t it wis not in 
consequence of their naission principles; 
bat for their discordant conduct in the As* 
sociation. The church again remained 
neutral. For this objection, as stated by 
brolher JMinler himself, he called for a let- 
ter of dismission, which was at first ohjec- 
tfd to, because- ihp church did not wish 
him to leave, and he was requested lo con- 
tinue; bul he continued his request, which I 
was granted next day. All the mission-' 
ary members have since left ihe church. I 
Thus it will be seen, that a separation has! 
actually taken place, and that ihe mission- j 
ary brethren separated, ai) d that in the' 
fact: of remonstrants and solicitations to 

Since the separalion, and :lt my instance, 
the churcii did not represent, her-eif in the I 
Association. This state or condition of] 
the chirc'i an I myself, has drawn put | 
such inquiries as the following: Where I 
was you at the last Vssoeiation? To what i 
Association do you and the Antioch chuich j 
belong? What is the condition of the j 
Antioch church? &c. To meet and an 
swer these enquiries and the like, the a- 
bove communication is sent 1'onh. It is j 
stated above, that the Antioch church i 
did not represent herself in the Assoc alion, 
and the i'tason is, so far as 1 aai concerned, 

that the separating members from the An» 
tioch church have set up and constituted 
themselves in the immediate vicinity of 
the Antipci). 

Two oilier churches of the Associa- 
tion have split in the same manner, and 
constituted under ihe very eves of ihe Old 
churches; and in one of the cases, they ap- 
pointed iheir church meeting on the very 
day of the old church mi-eling; but this 
Was looked down by ihe community at 
large, anl afterwards altered. These, their 
ca up meetings, at which preachers of othr 
er denominations are not only invited but 
wrinen for„ these meetings continue 
for days and in some in-tanees for weeks; 
and proselyting is earned to an exlent 
hitherto, unknown in the annals of ChristU 

These and other things are the evil 
practices mentioned, in connexion with 
heierodox principles above, (and not any 
immoralities; for as a community of Chris? 
tians, their morals, so far as I know, are as 
good ad ibose of other christians,) and con- 
siitule in part the reasons why 1 o'id not 
wish the church represented. Another 
teason is, ihai by Ihe division and consti- 
tulion of new churches which were wholly 
missionary} 1 knew they had ihe balance 
of power in tlvir own hands, aid would 
use it aslbeydid, in planning and carrying 
into effect their missionary mea.-uies, to 
which 1 could nol subscribe. Another lea- 
sou is, 1 never n ill subject m\ self knowing- 
ly, lo the same or the like indignant titaU 
menl by missionary ministers as 1 received 
in the October session of the Yellabushy 
Association in l>3°, while acting as Mo- 
derator; and that loo while I was discharg- 
ing the duties ot the chair as they wtre 
piea-ed to say, with dignity lo myself and 
lid-no.r to the Association and cause. 

1 do not speak ol ibis mailer to wound the 
feelings of any, nor do I hold any charge 
against any fon a word spoken; hut my 
philosophy has taught me, thai the same 
cause may produce the same ifTtrl agniti, 
That cause is a heated or mad zeal, which 
slops at nothing-, no not bursl'u gup Assot 
ci.eions, lending of churches, nor ihe fel- 
lowship of biethren. Is this the spirit of 
the meek and lowly Jesus, or is his king- 
dom to bj pushed forward to Ihe heathen 
ai the expense of desolating the chinches of 
the spril of Christianity in thenar. The 
Bible holds no such doctiine. No, that 
spirit that produces discord and creates 
division, by. it with yyhoni it may, is not 



of Christ, No, for "this man shall be the 
peace" — and so sang the angels at his ad- 

lieloved brelhren, if the al)Ov:; should 
nol prove a long burden, you may hear 
from me again; if itj publicition be loo 
burihensomr, let the sliadi s of oblivion 
covtr it from the light Yours in gospel 
bonds. Fli.lNCIS B.iKElL 




Lapland, Buncombe rounfi/, 2V, C. ~) 
August 13,1810. b 

Good morning to my dear and well beloved 
Primitive brethren, that are scattered all over 
the wide jextensive world. t l have slept in this 
morning to preacli you a short sermon from a short 
text. My text is: Preach the word. Well, the word 
says, cursed is evpry on© that continueth not to 
da all thitgs that are written in the book of the 
law — or words to this amount. V\ ell, the law of 
God, given by Moses, the servant of God was, 
that the Israel of God should not eat the smooth 
fish that had not fins and scales; but throw it away, 
or give it to the stringer. But thefts!) that had 
scales & fins, ihey might eat. Also, the beast that 
did not chew the cud and part the hoof, eat it not 
but throw it away or give it to the stranger; but 
the beast that both chew the cud and part the hoof, 
God's Israel may eat. 

Well, Tiljery, what iipxi? Sir, I answer in my 
judgment the smooth fish without fins or scales, 
is in the spiritual sense of the word the smooth, 
flattering preacher, with his enticing words of 
men's wisdom, witliout the demonstration of the 
spirit and of power; having men's persons in ad- 
miration all for advantage. Now, my Primitive 
brethren, I want you to throw. away all such fish, 
and eat the good old scaley fish that lias both fins 
and scales, which in my opink n is the rough and 
plain doctrine of the gospel preached by our old 
fashioned Baptists. And the preacher that only 
preaches the dead letter, and don't divide truth 
and error, flesh and spirit, law and gospel, be only 
chews the cud and don't divide the hoof. 
And if he should divide all tho.-e things and 
don't prove it by the word of God, he only 
parts the hoof and don't chew the cudi breth- 
ren, I believe chewing the cud in the spiritual 
sense to be preaching the word of God; and the 
dividing the hoof the true sense and meaning of 
dividing truth and error. And except a preacher 
understand both chewing the cud and parting 

lite hoof, I doubt hid religici 

Well, our text says, preach the word. Well, the 
word says, the natural man discerns not the things 
of t.hespirit. Again, the word says, the carnal 
mind is enmity against God. So I take itfor gran- 
ted, all those carnally minded ministers are the 
worst enemies to the true gospel of Jesus Chirst, 
that ever was or ever will I e on earlhi Well, 
preach the word. Well, the word says, he that 
says he, liveth and sinneth not, he dpceiveth him- 
self, and the word of God aliideth not in him. 

Mind, brethren, this is spoken to the outer man. " 
Well, preach the word. Well, the word says, he 
that is born of God sinneth uot; for his seed re- 
maineth in him; and lie cannot sin, for his seed re- 
mained! in him. i_This is spoken to the inner 
man. Well, the next thing is, if the inner man can- 
not sin, how is he to fall from grace and the devil 
get him. Again, the word says, he that has not 
the spirit <f Christ is none rf his. Well, if the 
devil can take the spirit of Christ, why not go to 
heaven and unthrone the king of glory, and take 
his dominion from him and leign universal devil 
above and below both? I just say, who in the 
name of God can believe such filih as is preached 
in those days? 

Brethren, you that can conquer your enemies by 
shooting grape shot and wads at them do so, I do 
not blame you; ! would to God I could do so, but 
I find myself hard put to it to stand p\y enemies, 
when slapping a match to the cannon continually. 
I am well pleased wiih brother Keaton's views 
concerning rough writing, as it is called. 1 can on- 
ly say, that I have never seen any w riling too rough 
in the Primitive paper to please me yet, and with 
my whole heart 1 join eld father Lawrence in his 
views concerning controversy in our papers. If any 
of my brelhren don't like my rough work, 1 want 
them to write ne a private letterand send it by mail. 
I will freely p ly the postage and thank them for 
their trouble. For it will nol do to begin to fight one 
another in our writings, for it will completely 
give our enemies our own sword to fight us with, 

I see some things in ihe Primiive, that don't al- 
together agree wiili my views; and I don't doubt 
but what some of the brelhren see some in my 
Writing, that don't suit their views: but rny prin- 
cipal view in writing is, for my brethren to know 
that 1 have taken a decided stand against all the 
new schemes ol the present day, and to support the 
old fashioned. Baptist church to the best 
of my skill and knowledge, supported by the word 
of God' And if 1 am wrong, God knows J can* 
not help it, fori do Know I want to be guided by 
his word and spirit. And if ihe now schemes of 
the day are right, God Almighty have mercy on 
poor in e, for 1 am gone, gone forever. 

Brethren, the fence struddlers are doing more 
devilment iu this country than the full blooded^ 



missionaries; for they will tell you that they arr | ilmrof them; for the people said it was JQst like 
no missionary, and in less than five minutes y"ii I ,1.1 Tillery's talk and preaching. 

will see and hear them call a missionary brother, 
then invite him up into the pulpit to preach, then 
after all this turn round with the impudence of the 
devil, and tell you he is no missionary, and at the 
same time advocate the mission cause with all his 
power. Brethren, I do wish 1 did know whether 
any of you are tormented with the legions of dev- 
ils as I ami Father Lawrence, I want you to 

One thing more 1 would like to know, that is, 
whether brother Mark Bennett ever was a man giv- 
en to intoxication or not; for 1 can hardly believe 
that any man can give as straight an account of 
the effects of drunkenness as he has without expe- 
riencing the same. But there is one thing I can 
say to my brother Bennett, if he has not experienc- 
ed it, 1 for one have, and my experience bears wit- 

pray for me, for I do believe you are an ark of ness he has told the truth, and has given sweet 
heaven. Brethren, I crave all your prayers; my land good counsel to all drinking people whether 
making use of brother Lawrence's name in parti- in church or noti 

cular is, because I think he properly is entitled to 

the name of father among us, as I believe he was 

the starter of our communications one to another. 

Brethren, I am sometimes almost ready to say 

Another word or two concerning brother A. Kea- 
ton's piece in the same number. I for one say, 
I love his piece and j >in hisjudgment concerning 
roughness, as some call it. I for one can say, 

there is no realily in man, I have been so deceived j that I never saw any thing too rough to please 
bysomeof the preachers in this country, who me yet in the Primitive, so that it is not any thing 
appeared to be sound in the faith, and now like controversy with the Primitive writers them- 
some of them are gone with the missionaries, selvesi As the brother says, you know your 
and some a straddle of the fence, and some are grievances and we ought to know ours; for you 
saying, wail, brethren, and let us see what the are yonder and we are here. All men have not 
Association will do; and you know that the Asso- trials alike, all men have not passions alike, all 
ciatidn will hold all together as long as possible, men do not understand alike, neither do they sea 
And it does appear to me, that those fence strad- nor hear alike. But one God's blessing is, all 
dlers would rather go to hell with the crowd, than ' men have to give an account to God for them- 
to leave them and join the little flock. But, dear selves. 

brethren, hear comes consolation to my soul at Brethren, I have been aggravated by the crafts- 
this moment. I do know hell with all her legions | men and their fence-straddlers, until 1 have done & 
never can frustrate the purposes of Almighty j sad things that I ought not to have done; but what 

am I but mortal man. There is a thorn in my 
flesh, the messenger of satan, which does often buf- 
fet poor me; but one thing we do know, that offen- 
ces must come, and the Saviour says, wo be to the 
man by whom they come. And, brethren, I do 
know thfl offence did not come by me, for I did 
not start, nor help start the cursed craft of mission- 
ism. One thing I do know, that I do and sincere- 
ly believe that missionism is one of the most de- 
v iurin<rwolves that ever made its appearance nut of 
the bottomless pit. Aud 1 do sincerely believe, 
that the wolf missionism, and all its advocates, 
will return to the bottomless pit, from whence it 
first originated. 

I would like to hear from brother Vachal D. 
Whatley, of Georgia, whether he has lost or broke 
his mattock, that he grubbed up the lying mis- 
sionary spirit with; or whether he has grubbed 
out his throw, & is setting down resting. If so, I 
think the brother has rested long enough; and if 
he thinks there is no other throw for him to grub, 
I would be very thankful to the brother to pick up 
his mattock and help me out with mine, as I am 
an old man and can't grub as fast as stouter abler 
men can. Pray, brother, don't leave me too far 
behind, for I know my will is good to keep up if I 


Brethren Editors, I wish to let my distant friends 
and brethren know how much I love the writings 
of my dear old brother Joshua Lawrence's piece 
in the 14th number of our present volume; for it 
fits my heart, soul and body, and that from my 
own experience where he says he stood fifteen 
years alone, not knowing there was one in the 
world to help him to oppose the enemy the mis- 
sion craft; and where he says, if he only could have. 
found one to help him, it appeared that he could 
have fought a mountain or world of giants. My 
dearold brother Lawrence, had 1 known that at the 
juncture of time, take it for granted I certainly would 
have come to see you, or have died on the road a 
trying; for I myself stood on the same grounds, 
my dear brother, but Ihro' the kind mf r<-y of God, 
I stood the storm unwounded, unshaken, and sc 
remain to this day. O my soul, praise the Lord, 
for his mercy endureth forever. 

Brother Lawrence, 1 do believe if it could be 
possible for us to meet together in this vail of 
tears, and count our travels over, that there could 
not be two others agree better than we could; for 
when your pamphlets first came in this country 
which I think is something like seven or eight 
years ago, I was then branded with being the au- 



The French Broad Association, in Buncombe 
county, has just broke up: and I am told by good 
authority, that they, the French Broad Associa- 
tion, refuspd the Primitive! brethren's correspond- 
ing letter from Nolychucky Association, and re- 
ceived the missionary in full fellowship. And 
now, brethren, I wish you to be aware of ibe 
preachers in Buncombe, particularly Stephen 
Morgan, Jess Ammons, Bill Bees, Bob Patterson, 
with others of tbe same stamp in Buncombe, fur 
they will tell you any thing in my candid opin- 
ion except the truth; for I believe them to be any 
thing and every thing but the right thing. So 
no more at present, but ever remain yours in 
love of the truth. I&MC TILLEIiY. 


Pintlala, JSla > 
March Ut, 1541. \ 

Dear Bretrhen: I feel thankful to 
God for the satisfaction I find in reading 
your communications from the different 
parts of the United State--; for I believe 
they have proved beneficial to a goodly num- 
ber of God's dear children, by advancing 
the wholesome doctrine of the gospel, the 
only food for the sheep and lambs of Christ. 
You know, dear brethren, I hat sheep are 
very peculiar in their nature; they can'l 
live upon any thing and every thing, neith- 
er can those that have been brought out of 
nature's darkness into the marvellous light 
of the gospel, live and thrive upon the doc- 
trines advancedjnow a days by many who 
call themselves Christians, for they know 
not the voice of strangers. And now, dear 
brethren, let us remember that we the 
Primitive Baptists seem to stand alone; we 
are considered by other professed Chris- 
tians as uncharitable & bigoted, by many of 
the world our sentiments are held in con- 
tempt; therefore, while we are making 
high pretensions in obeying the commands 
of Christ, we should adorn our profession 
and prove to the world that we have indeed 
been with .lesus, and bring not reproach 
upon that good cause, but contend earn- 
estly for the truth as it is in Christ Je- 

And may the Lord enable you by his 
holy spirit lo continue your communica- 
tions, and sanctify them to the good of his 
people. Finally, brethren, farewell; be 
perfect, be of good comfort, be of one mind, 
live in peace, and the God of love and peace 
shall be with you. 



Lei'ghtnn, Lttwrevce county, ,/lfa. 
February 12///, i>41. 

Dear brethren Editors: 1 am glad 
to offer you a few of my thoughts, as 
one that tries to keep my eyes. open to 
see, and I find much that takes my atten- 
tion. 1 will inform you of the conduct of 
these new fashioned folks, that are yet 
among us. 

I was at a protracted meeting sometime 
ago. There was one there that had been 
about twelve months from the college, and 
when they opened a door for the reception 
of members, there were ten or twelve that 
took their seats lo join, and this new prea- 
cher asked leave lo act as Moderator for 
the church. And after he got leave he 
asked three questions, and they received 
them. And then there was one that told 
an experience — after that there was another 
young man slept over the seat and he said, 
here is another that wants to join the 
church. I know he does; and they received 
him in their body and he was baptized 
with the others. 

Brethren, be eamious of receiving such 
in your houses. We, as the Old School 
Baptists, don't want to receive such ti- 
dings as Ahemaaz brings; and we can do 
as David done, tell them to turn aside. 
And when Ahemaaz saw that his tidings 
was not received, he stood still; and so 
would these new fashioned preachers, if 
we would not receive them, they would 
stand still. 

On Monday, he (the new preacher) 
preached to the people; but his doctrine 
was not received by the Old School Bap- 
tists, for it was all new to them. Some of 
these people have found their way into our 
Association, and theie is one of them that 
has gathered up the excluded members and 
heard them, and formed a company of them 
together, and got. a licensed preacher of 
the day to go with him and constituted 
them into a church. Now don't this look 
like they rode on a mule, is Absalom did; 
hut when they get 'too high, they fall by the 
hand of Joab. And Ahemaaz is standing 
still, to see what will become of the armies 
of men. But when Cushi came, which is 
on the Old Side, and had tidings that the 
enemies of the king were destroved. there 
was mourning amongst them until Joab 
came, and ordeied the king to his post 
again, and then there were pauses all thro' 
the army. 



Ju*t so it is yet If these new scheme 
folks can't cany the sway, they stand still' 
Ahemaaz like, to see what the Old School 
Baptists will do. The next question is, 
what will you do? Whv we will declare 
an unfeilowship with all the new spireme}* 
of the day. And then they go out and en- 
ter into every house, and beg, as they g'i 
and they will lake any person's apparel 
for a pledge, or the widow's ox, or her oil, 
or any thing that they may have, and try 
to make ns believe that they can do won- 
ders. They are almost as wise as Simon 
Magus, and they fain would yjve the Old 
Side Baalists money as he did; hut they 
are too proud, and think they know too 
much to ask the Old School Baptists any 

Brethren, I see a little too much chasti- 
sing one another in your paper, if it could 
be avoided; hut if it can't be avoided let it 
be so, for truth will do away error. Now, 
dear brethren, may the grace of our Lord 
Jesus keep you and each of us in the pith 
of duty, is my sincere prayer and hearty 
wi>h, that Israel may prosper, 

DAVID joiisson. 

.lesus Christ and all his apostles taught; 
and the same that I have been trying lo 
'each for the last eight or nine years, al- 
though 1 have met with hundreds and 
thousands during thai time that despise, 
and wonder, and peri-h. For the Lord 
h is worked a work in this day, that they 
will not believe though a man declare it un- 
to them. But, brethren, we can comfort hearts by feeling and saving as Paul 
said; If our gospel be hid. it is hid to them 
that are lost; for the Lord's people is his 
portion. .lacob is the lot of his inheritance. 
And while he has been Sliding these things 
from the wise and prudent, be has been 
revealing them unto babes, out of whose 
mouths he has ordained perfect praise. 
So we need not wonder as though some 
strange thing had happened, when we find 
that the secret of the Lord is with them 
that fear him. 



IVuverly, Lowndes county, Mi. } 
JfprilAih, 1841. \ 
Deaii brethrkn Editors: It has plea- 
sed the Lord, that I should meet with 
your piper in this country; and it greatly 
rejoiced my heart to know, i hit there are 
as many of the children of the promise as 
there are, scattered abroad through these 
United States. And I am so well pleased 
with your paper, that I want you to send 
rne six copies. I want \ ou to send one co- 
py to Spartanburg district, I design that 
copy as a pre.-ent lo two men, who with 
some others in that country, hold the mys- 
tery of the fait h in a pure conscience, a- 
mongst whom I wish them to circulate 
this paper, and I think it will secure seve- 
ral subscribers fir ihe paper. 

I know that there are some few in that 
region of country that have not bowed the 
knee to Baal, anil if \ our paper can be cir- 
culated amongst them to disclose the cun- 
ning craft of the craftsmen, ihey will utter- 
ly renounce the beast with his seven heads 
and ten horns; or in other words, the hy- 
dra-headed monster, that is pretending to 
transform itself to an angel of light. 

1 am willing to become an agent for your 
paper, for it teaches the same doctrine that 


Macon, Bibb cnnnfi/. Ga. ) 
JJpHh 1841. S 

Dsar BkEthrkn and Sisters; Oftha 
church of Christ of the Primitive faith and 
order of the Old School Baptists. I have 
long neglected writing for the Primitive 
paper, lest I might be in the way of abler 
peris. I have been reading iho paper from 
the first No. till now, and wish the paper 
to he continued; for it has been a source of 
much consolation to ire, to hear from my 
hre bren fiom the different paits of these 
United States and territories. 

Now, dear bn tl ren, as the Primitive 
paper is for the edification of the body the 
church of ("In ist, h t lis be careful lo have 
thus siith the Lord for all v\e say or do in 
ri hgious matters A soft answer turneth. 
away wrath, but grievous words stir up 
anger. Prov. 15dt c. and 1st vs. And as 
1 see but very few of the brethren write 
upon church discipline, I will say a few 
things of the duties incumbent on church 
m< mbers, according lo the Primitive faith 

of the Bap" i!s - 

I A church constituted after the heavenly 

pattern, is as a ciy set on a hill, from 

I which the glories of rich and free grace 

1 abundantly shine. Psa. 1st, 2nd. The 

true members of it have the light of the 

siO e p"l shining in their hearts by the Holy 

Ohost, and aie entitled lo all the blessings 

of the new covenant. Eph. 1st, 3d. And 

being thus blessed, their faith is a lively 



o love fin 1 d) pood to tticm who arc of 

rl-io Itft<i«phn1rt nf iViilh flal fi 10 All 

the household of faith 
must be clone fi on 
I John', 4. 7--1 1. 
To follow 

Gal. 6. 10 Al 
a principle of love, 
tfhn, 13. 34, 35 (2 ) 

things which m tke 

In order lo 

jietivc faith, not only purifying (heir heart ? 
htit workng by love: 6h1. 5 c fi v. where- 
by they become the light of the world, 
Mat. 5 e. 14 — !Gv. which they make ap- 
parent by a faithful discharge of lite duties 
enjoined on them hy the Lord ,lcs-.s Christy 
the great head ol" toe chmeh. efrtrrtcs, 2. IS 
As ministers are the representatives 
of Christ, and sent by hi tn to a work lhal j doubtful 
ig. both useful and honorable, there are cef 
tain duties incumbent on members of (lie endeavor to sow the fruits of righteousness 

' ones, 3. 18. ra teful I y avoiding 
i & Sack biting*. 2 Cor. 12. 20. 

idler tin 
for peace. Rom. 1 1. 1 9 
rtdiich they ure lo put the most favorable 
eenHtniCiions <>n words anil actions that are 

1 Oor. 1 3 7. And to speak no 
evil one. of another, .rarnes, 4, 11. And to 

Church towards them, as (I ) they owe, 
ihem d'is.linguisbing honor, and to hold 
them in reputation as the embassador's of 
Christ; Phi. 2. 27. 2nd Cor. 5. 20. and 
to esteem them highly for their work's 
pake. 1st Thess. 5 13. (2.) They are 
to contribute according to their respective 
abilities towards their minister's support; 
Gal. 6. 6. that being freed as much as pos- 
sible from the cues of life, they rmy have 
more time to devote themselves to he duties 
of their boh' function, and hive it in their 
power to use hospitality, I <t Tim 3. 2. 
and stretch out the benevolent hand of 
charity to those in disticss. Gal. 2. 10 
Which support ought not be neglected, but 
done as a voluntary act, due to their minis- 
ters; the law of nature requires it. l.-t'fim. 
5. 18. In the Lord's grants to Israel, there 
was always a r serve made for the priests; 
tinder the gospel, provision is ma tie for the 
support of its ministers 

in peace 
Not to be hu-ybodies vviih the concerns of 
others, hut to walk or lerly in the church. 
2 Thess. 3. II. Not to take up any evil 
report against another. Acts, 25. 16. 
Nor to do any thing through sttife or vain 
glory. Phi. 2. 3. (3 ) And all you do, 
let it he for the glory of God and to edify 
one another. Thes. 5 11. 2 Pester, 3. 
13. (4.) To pray for each other. James, 
5. IS To visit eacli other, when sick 
or afflicted. Acts, 15 36. * James, 1. 27. 
And those visits ought to be improved for 
edification. Psa. 34. 3. We took s-veat 
counsel together-, and walked unto the 
house of Cod together. Psi. 55. 14. 
Warning and admonishing one another. 
1 Thess' 5 14. Rom. 15. 14. And to 
labour to find out the cause of shyness in 
a brother as soon as it is discovered, and 

1-t Cor. 9. 7 — | try to remove the same. Mat. 5. 23, 
14. (3) They are to obey and submit! 24. 
themselves to their ministers. Eph. 6.1 The duties of members to the church are 
18 — 20. (4.) They ought to stand by and (1.) to pray for its peace & prosperity, and 
assist them in all their troubles and affile- j to try to promote its welfare. Psa. 1.22.6. 
tions. 2 Tim. 6. 10. Job, G. 14. (5 ) Re-" 9, (2.) They ought to attend all church 
ceive no accusation against them, without ] meetings, whether for public worship or 
full proof. Tim. 5 19. (G ) Nor to ex- j business. Ueb. 10. 25. Psa. S4. 4. 10. 
pose their infirmities. Acts, 23. 5 3. j (3. ) It is their duty lo submit to the order 
(7.) To follow their examples, as far as: and discipline of the church, so fur as it is 
they follow Christ. 2 Thes. 3. 7. 1 Cor. j consistent wi h the word of God. Deu. 5.1. 
11.1. ! Ileb. (4 ) They are to employ their tal- 

2. Deacons being in an honorable office in I ents and freely bestow of their substance 
the church, the members are (I.) to tespect i for the services of the church. Rom. 12. 
and esteem them as being employed by j 6 — H. Prov. 3. 8, 10. (5.) They ought 
their Lord and Saviour to serve in the I carefully to avoid all contentions and 
household of faith; and as men whom (if .quarrels in the church. 1 Cor. 10. 32. 
faithful) God will greatly Mess. 1 Tim. Rom. 2. 8. Let. your light so shine before 

3. 13. Mat. 25. 21. (2.) To submit to ! men, that they may see your good works 
their godly and friendly admonitions. 1 

encourage them in 

Cor. 16. 16. (3.) To 
their office by cheerful and liberal couti 
butions, for ihe service of God's house, his 
ministers, and poor of the church. 2 Cor. 
9. 6, 7. 

3. The members of a church are in duly 
bound (1.) to love all men, but especially 

and glorify your Father which is in heav- 
en. Mat 5. 1G. 

And now, dear brethren and sisters, 
what 1 have wrote I trust has been lo re- 
Iresii jour mmds with a sense of your 
duty, that your acts may be for the glory 
of Cod and good of Zion. Let your gifts 
and graces be so apparent to others in your 



doctrine and lives, that they may look on 
you' as the 1 true and faithful followers of 
your Lord and Saviour. And may grace, 
mercy and peace he with you nil lhat love 
our Lord Jesus Christ in sipcerity, and 
wake you up to ;i lively activity in the 
things of God. Yours as ever in Christian 
love, looking at the land mirks, at ih • 
old corner post. 



Mount Hickory, Alabama, 
February 1st, 1841. 

Brethren Editors: I send you a few 
of my thoughts, and after the perusal of the 
same, you can use your pleasure respect- 
ing their publication. And as you are ac- 
quainted with the difficulties that heretofore 
existed between us and t lie missionaries, 
I deem it unnecessary lo go over them 
again; and would only say, since the di- 
vision has taken place brethren that re- 
main on original ground appear lobe uni- 
ted in love. And when our preachers come 
among us, they seem to preach the same 
doctrine that I heard upwards of twelve 
years ago in Georgia. And it appears to 
he the good old hell which the flock have 
followed for ages, foi centuries, yea, from 
the apostolic age to the present time; that 
is, the doctrine of soveieigu grace and prac- 
tical godliness. 

It does appear to me, lhat if all the Bap- 
tists were to embrace the missionary sys- 
tem, as it is carried on in the present day, 
lhat they would not only lay down but 
would put their feet on that precious and 
glorious doctrine of grace, which is dearer 
to the Christian than life; for out of grace 
springs all the obedience, that the disci- 
ples of Christ have ever rendered him 

And, dear brethren, when 1 hear of the 
many trials that my brethren and sisters 
have come through, I feel to have a heart 
to bear some part of the burdens. Then 
we learn, and that from divine authority, 
that it is the inplantation of grace, and 
that by the spirit of God, that enables the 
creature to think, speak, or act aright 
And well may Paul say: It is not of him 
that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but 
of God that showeth mercy. And not only 
Paul, but we see the same sentiment ex- 
pressed by all the old saints of both 
the Old and New Testament. 

Thus we see, my brethren, this holy 
& divine principle of sovereign grace in the 

ho«om of Noah. Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob; & 
not only ihem, but we see the three Hebrew 
children traverse the fiery furnace; and the 
same principle that moved the sons of Zebe- 
dee to leave their father in the ship and fol- 
low Jesus in the way, Thus we see, bre- 
thren, that if Stephen would have forsaken 
this doctrine, the Jews would not have sto 
ned him; and old John might have escaped 
the isle of Patmos, if he would have given 
up the doctrine ol unmerited grace. 

Now, dear brethren, if I may be permit- 
to call you so, when we see all of these 
lailhful men before us, and a great many 
more that I might name, contending for the 
same doctrine of sovereign grace, should 
not we stand firm, my dear brethren, and 
contend for the same doctrine if it should 
co*t us our lives, our fortune, and all 
that is near and dear lo us of a temporal 

So I will close by saying, that it is a cold 
time of religion in this section of country 
at this time: and would say as one of the 
prophets of old said: Is there no balm in 
Gilead, is there no physician there? Whv 
then is not the hedth of the daughter of 
my people recovered? So I remain yours, 
dear brethren, in tribulation. 



Lexington, Oglethorpe county, Ga. 7 
March 21th, 1S41. $ 

Bkethren Editors: I am yet blessed 
with the liberty of sending my remittance 
for your valuable paper, and I hope you 
may he so blessed of the Lord, so as all 
your writings as well as your conversation 
may be according 'o his blessed word and 
will. May the Lord bless and keep his 
children in the way he would have them 
to go in all ihings, is my sincere desire, if 
I am uol deceived. TllOS. AMIS. 


Gainer's Store, Alabama, ? 
February \2lh, 1841. \ 

Dear and wru beloved Brktjiren: 
We have received your letters and com- 
munications for a considerable time, and 
we ate well pleased with them. 

I am a native of North Carolina, raised 
within eighteen miles of Tatborough, and 
it pleases me well to hear from my Old 
School brethren. 1 have been a Baptist 
forty years, and for the first twenty years I 



knew no division among them. And now 
1 am prepared lo say, that I hope and be- 
lieve that 1 have earnestly contended lor 
tie faith onne delivered to Hie saints. To 
all the Primitive Baptists 1 subscribe my 
self your unworthy brother. 


Mon'icello, Florida, } 
Feb 12/A, IS'fl. > 

Dear Brethren Kditors: 1 now 
wr'ne to let you know, that I w nit six cop- 
ies of yonr much esteemed paper, the Pri- 
mitive Baptist, the present year. Breth- 
ren, I believe it is the work of the Lord, 
and I hope it may prosper more arid mote. 

Brethren, be of one mind, be ye united 
in the truth, and be of good rare; be ho'y, 
be humble, and not self-righteous; be as 
Pharaoh's horses, geared in the chariot; al- 
so, be geared in pulling under the gospel 
yoke with one another. Piaj for one an- 

Brethren, I am not worthy to write to 
you; but I hope the Lord will bless us all 
Farewell for the present. Your unworthy 
friend. JOHN F. HAGAN. 

Slafesboro", But lack county, Ga. } 
A/arch 21, IS II. \ 

Dearly beloved Bijethen: Grace, 
mercy and peace be multiplied to your 
souls, through God the Father and our 
Lord .Jesus Christ; who give himself fur 
his church, that he might present her ho- 
ly, harmless, without spot or wrinkle. 

Brethren, 1 feel thankful lo Almighty 
God, that I ever got to see your excellent 
paper; and the first m y eyes ever saw, a 
friend sent to me two of your Nos. same- 
thing like 200 miles, and then 1 sent to you 
for six copies, which 1 have received. 

Your paper is doing a great deal of go3fl 
here, but it meets with some old Baptists 
who think it is a speculation. Bu; I can 
say of a truth, that they are food to my 
soul, and 1 want to read ihem as long ;is I 
live and they hold forth the same doctrine 
thai they novv do. So 1 subscribe myself 
yours, in hopes of a better world. 

bv our blessed Lord and Saviour and his 
apo-ties. Therefore 1 wish \ on to send 
me three copies With my best wishes to 
the Primitive Baptists. 


Activity, Monroe county, Ala. ~) 
Feb. lift, 1S41. 5 
Dearly beloved FJDnors: Having 
seen some of your valuable papers the Pii- 
mitive Baptist, I am very much delighted 
with it; for 1 believe it contains the true 
doctrine of the gospel that was delivered 

A«H|B!*T§F S 


North Carolina. — .1. Bigjrs, Sen. Willi amnion. 
U. M. G. Moore, Germanlon. W. w. Mizell, P/y- 
'no;i.//i. Charles Mason, Roxboro*. Benj. By mini, 
Speigh-Ps Bridge. H. \. ve ra, Averasoord' . J. H, 
Keneday, Chalk Level. Harwell Temple. Raleigh. 
Geo. w. McNeely, Leakspille. vVm. H. Vann, 
Long Vce/c Brdge. Thomas Bagley, Smif.hfie\d. 
James ft. Sasser, Waynesboro 1 . John Fruit, San- 
dy Creek. L. B. Bennett, Heathoi.lle. Cor's 
Canaday, Cravensvi/le. William Welch, Abbott's 
Creclc, J. Lamb, Camden G, H. A. B. Bains, 
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SATURDAY, MAY 8, 1841. 

No. 9. 



Forsyth, Monroe county, Ga. } 
JanuKry 31s/, 1841. ) 
Deak b : betheen Editors: For the first 
time in life I take my pen in hand, to let 
you know something of my travel in reli- 
gious mutters, though I shrink at the at- 
tempt. I see some of my brethren telling 
their experience of grace, and I thought I 
would make the venture. 

the prayers of every body, but I never 
could get up to be prayed for. I thought 
I was deceived, there was no grace in it; 
therefore I hobbled along alone, kept it a 
profound secret betwixt God and myself. 
If any body ever knew it, it is more than 
I know. If I wanted to find a hypocrite, I 
would go to a protracted meeting and look 
on the anxious benches. But to the sub- 

I wandered on in this way, day by day. 
Prepare to meet thy God. I saw that I 
was a sinner, and it was for the love I had 
for him that I wanted to serve God, not 
through the fear of hell. My brethren, 
I was hobbling along so for about three 
I thought every body could be sa- 

. I was born in Columbia County, Geor 
gia. My father moved up to Lincoln 'years 

County when I was small. I was raised a j V ed, only me. ° One day I went out in the 
moral boy. I had my prayers to say every woods to get me a maul, while I was ma- 
night before going to bed, Presbyterian j king it these words rolled in ray mind: 
order. Though born like the rest of the; Prepare to meet thy God. I fell on my 
human family tinder a covenant of works, knees, and if ever I prayed it was then. 
I had impressions of mind from a child; I These words rolled in my mind: Comeun- 

Wanted to go to heaven, and when I would 
do my part, God would do his, and so I 
would become a Christian, and I should be 
as good a one as ever lived. I should have 
no hope about it, I should know it and ev- 
ery body else should know it 

to me all ye that labor and are heavy laden, 
and I will give you rest, &c. My feelings 
I could not tell. Well, brethren, before I 
got home doubts began to arise. So I 
went from day to day, saying, Lord, am I 
ia Christian; and I only could say, if I am, 
So, my brethren, when I got a little I] am less than the least, if one at all. I 
scare of going to hell, I would pray; and (must close this part, though not half told, 
when my scare was gone, my religion wasj My dear brethren, I abhorred the doc- 
gone. So I worked on till I was in my ' trine of the Old Baptists. 1 thought that it 
25th year. One day old Elder A. Mar- j came from the devil, and it would return 
shall came up in our settlement to preach a I there. I can say, the things I once abhor- 

funeral sermon. I took my horse out of 
the plough, and I went to hear him. His 
text was: Prepare to meet thy God. Amos, 
4. 12. That was in 1S13. My dear bre- 
thren, I never expect to forget that day; it 
was like the two-edged sword, piercing 
the joints and marrow. 

I never knew what ailed me, I wanted 

red I now love. I was baptised in the 
year 1S16, by VV. Hillman; and since that 
time 1 have sat under five or six preachers 
as pastors, and they have all gone off on 
'.he missionary system. The Lord only 
knows why I did not go too. O that God 
would show his people the truths of the 
gospel, and that they might walk therein, 


Primitive baptist. 

is my sincere prayer ! hope; and that he 
would banish ail false religion and hypoc- 
risy out of the world. 
I must coma to a clo«p. 

EL1SHJ1 Mzconn. 


L?xlng!on, Holmes county, Mi- 7 j 
.jlitgt. -Mh, 1840. $ j 

Deau EUSTn^y Edi roii.s: i have taken; j 
up my pen to giveypu a» patline of the 
condition of this part of Go.t's moral vine- ! 
yard, .is is visib : e to us; and in doing so, 1 
shiil try to shck as-close to the truth as my i 
weakness will admit of. If i should fay 
any thing contrary to the scriptures of di»| 
vina titi'i), throw it by, and I win sit at j 
your feel and be- taught; hut if what I say ! 
should accord with divine revelation, re- ! 
ceive it for iru'.h's sake. 

We are at peace amongst ourselves and 
churches, the separation line h:is been, 
drawn sometime since between us and the 
theological deceivers. O that all God's; 
dear children would obey that al! impor- 
tant command that says, COME OUT OF 
HER, MY PEOPLE; wherefore, come 
out from amongst them and be ye separate, 
saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean 
thing, and I will receive y<>u, and will be 
a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons 
and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty j 
2 Corinthians, G. 17. IS. 

Dear brethren, when I hear sd many of j 
God's dear children Crying out urid.Or tie 1 , 
horrible oppression of the prince Zt the 
power of the air, 1 cap aW say", Lord, if 
it be thy will, o**Vi'vec cnerh from our com- ! 
mon W->y- „evert!uless, not my will,! 
but thine be done. Lead us not into temp- 1 
tation, but deliver us from evil, for thine i8 . 
the power, &c. 

Pear brethren, when we take a retros- : 
pcclive view of i he p-t^t conduct of the Old j 
IJapiists, 1 am not at all surprised to see 
all tr.ese plagues that seem to threaten the' 
destruction of the church; but recollect the 
words of our Lord that say: Thou art Pe- 
ter, and upon tks rock I will build tv.y 
church,, and the gates of hell shall not pie- 
vail against it. hut I think the Old ILp- 
lisls have done like the Israelites did in the 
(i'ihe of Ezra. Read the lOMi c. f.f Ezra, 
i.n.d see what the people done then: And 
Shechaniah the son of Jehiel, one of the 
sons of Eiam, answered and siid Ez- 
ra we have trespassed against our God. 
ai'd hav« taken strange wives of the people 

of the land: yet now there is hope in Israel 
concerning this thing. Now therefore let 
us make a covenant with our God to put 
away all the wives, (not some.) and such 
as are born of theffij according to the coun- 
sel of my lorl, and of tho-e that tremble at 
the command nven-t of our God; and let it 
Be done according to the Lw. Ezra, 10. 
2, 3. 

Now, brethren, when we see men just 
from ilie feet of Gamaliel, in the place of 
being; fiom the feet of Jesus, belching oat 
their heterodox teal doctrines, (for Ihev 
know hp-tbing else.) tell them the com- 
mand of bur God i>. to put them away; for 
their words are as smooth as oil, but alas 
they have tads, xml Stings in their tads; 
and they have a king over them, which is 
i he angi I of the bottomless pi', whose name 
in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, signify- 
ing a destroyer; but in the Greek tongue 
he hath his name Apollyon, signifying or.e 
who exterminates. Rev. 9. 10, II. 

Those fine men must be in the lead, they 
are well learned, they must represent our 
churches in out Associations, must always 
bear letters of correspondence, they must 
have pay too, and ;das! what do they do? 
The first thing is, for to sieal the hearts of 
the people, as Absalom did the hearts of 
the children of Israel, by fail' speeches and 
courtesies. And V\ her, an y man came ni-ih 
to him to ' ! o him obeisance. Fie (Absalom) 
put forth h.ia hand and took him and kiss- 
ed hi.'/j,. 2 Sam'!, 15. 5. 

And when they gain a majority on ttuir 
side, they then com ounce belching cut 
their heterodoxical do'ctiines, six h as mis- 
sion iry societies, Sunday school union, Bi- 
b!e, tract, and temperance societies; which 
will be all they talk about, or preach about, 
and the old Primitives' cannot live on this 
kind of fo^d. Well, eld Primitives they 
have got the majority, for tfiey have let! 
you captive at their will; ihey will take all 
the church's property, books, &c. and you 
must come out from amongst them, for there 
is no other alternative, or go contrary lo 
the command in 1 Cor. 7. 2.'3, which says: 
Ye are bought with a price, be ye not the 
servants of men. 

1 would here say to all those, that are 
halting between two opinions, that it is evi- 
dent and that from scripture, that SO long 
as they favor the missionary operations 
ihey are the servant* of men. Now, breth- 
ren, you see that you were bought with a 
price, and that that price was— what? 500 
doi!a)>.? No, you know we were not re- 



deemed yvifh gold and silver; no, it was 
the precious blood of Jesus that clcanselh 
fmm all sin. This yoii know I could 
prove, but ! have not room in th'i3 short 
letler. Search ihe scriptures', <\o not rid- 
dle tlvm and sav as a man s;dd to me on 
last Sabbat!), that if he believed any thing 
sirte'erelv, i' would be right, because he be- 
lieve I it. Question, if a man wishes to go 
to Washington City and sunt-* a wrong 
course, (for you know he would most assu- 
redlv start the way he thought was right,) 
would that make it so, b 'cause he thought 
so? I think he had riddled the scrip- 
tures through a vcy coarse riddle, he had 
forgot ill it all that comes to God must be- 
1i*h\v that he is, and that he is a rewarder 
t)f all them tint diligently seek hirn. 
There-is a test of scripture which may be 
found in Paul's 2nd letter to the Corin- 
t|ii.-ms, 5. 20. Now then wc'Vre embassa- 
dors for Christ, as i hough God did beseech 
you by us, he ye reconciled to God. From 
this [text they, the missionaries, try to 
prove, that it is right for them to make 
and send out missionaries of their own. 
I understood missionary to mean one sent. 
Then all God's ministers ate missionaries. 
Agreed, but whose are they, if they" are 
sent by man? They are men's — but if sent 
by God, they are God's missionaries. And 
it is not good sense to say, thai God require 
any help for man, for he would cease (o 
be omnipo'ent; and to say he left it to man, 
is an insult to good sense. Therefore we 
must conclude, that Goci sends his own 
missionaries, and that man send their 

The missionaries sent by God are those 
sent out of that heavenly school taught by 
the holy spirit, the same spirit by which 
the scriptures was given; and God's mis- 
sionaries are always well pleased with the 
scriptures, and can bring out things both 
new and old. But man's missionaries are 
very different from that, they will beg 
money and then oiler $500 or Si 000 (some 
of the head ones,) for to have the scriptures 
translated. But for my part, brethren, 1 
think they suit our plan exactly, and there- 
fore we cannot give our money to have 
the scriptmes adulterated with the inven- 
tion of men. 

Again, the ministers of God all preach 
the same docti ine in substance; for 1 can- 
not believe that the t itching of the holy 
spirit is different, in any respect. If so, 
God is not omniscient, for says Mai. 3. G: 
1 am the Lord, 1 change not, therefore ye 

sons of Jacob are not consumed. And 
agtin, all thus taught will refuse to glory, 
save in the cross of Christ; whereby the 
world is crucified unto them, and they un- 
to the world. Why? because they are 
dead and their lives are hid with Christ 
in God; and when Christ, who is our 
life, shall appear, then shall we also appear 
with him in glory. Col. 3. 3, 4. There- 
fore they have their fruit into holiness, and 
the end everlasting life. 

But very different are the teaching? of 
men, for there are no two men on earth 
alike in every respect. But we must first 
notice the situation man is in by nature. 
Forever since the fall of man he has always 
taken right for wrong, and wrong for right. 
For,says one, they are willing captives, led 
by the devil ai his will; for they are all com- 
pletely in the power of the devil, for he is 
! a strong man armed, and keeps his goods 
■in peace until a stronger man than he 
! comes, &c. And sometimes people talk 
about man's having life and death set be- 
j fore litem, now choose w hich you will lake. 
■ 1 would say, that man has made that choice 
j almost 6000 years ago, and that to the aw 
ful calamity of the human family. And 
since that time, man has always chosen the 
ways of sin, why? because they are carnal* 
I ly sold under sin. For the Holy Ghost 
by Paul says, that they are all gone out 
of the way; there is none that doeth good, 
no, not one; their threat is an open 
sepulchre, with their tongues they have 
used deceit, the poison of asps is under 
their iip; whose mouth is full of cursing 
and bitterness, their feet are swift to shed 
blood, &c. Rom. 3. 12, 13, 14, 15. 

And how could we expect men in this 
awful condition to teach men how to 
preach the everlasting gospel. But, say 
they, men cannot preach without having a 
classical education. Well, I don't know 
where them illiterate fishermen got their 
classical education; I suppose, though the 
schooling they got was from above, and the/ 
were therefore prepared to preach Christ, 
and him crucified. But men must also be 
! aught, before they can preach to please 
their employers; and they must be taught 
by their employers before they can preach 
to please them,, for every spirit begets it* 

My sheet i3 full, I must close. Final- 
ly, brethren, farewell; be perfect, be of 
good comfort, he of one mind, iivein peace 
and ihe God of love ami peace, shall be 
with you. Pray for us, for we trust. w« 



have a good conscience in all things willing 
to live honestly. 

Dear brethren, 1 am a young man, in 
my 22d year, and was baptized on the 
third Sabbath in July 1S40. 1 therefore 
crave your earnest prayers, that I may 
not fall in the hand of satan, that 1 may 
crown my profession with a pious and 
an_ prderlly walk, always rejoicing in the 
cross of Christ; and that we may all meet 
where the wicked cease from troubling, 
and the weary are at rest. 

Now may the God of peace that brought 
again from the dead our Lord Jesus, the 
great shepherd of the sheep, thro' the blood 
of the everlasting covenant, make you per- 
fect in every good work to do his will, 
working in you that which is well pleas- 
ing in his sight through Jesus Christ, to 
whom bo glory forever and ever. Amen. 
I subscribe myself a lay member and yours 
in gospel bonds. 



Prospect Ridge, Alabama, } 
May 29th, 1S40. 5 

De \r brethren Editors: And read- 
ers of the Primitive Bapli-t, and all who 
love the Lord Jesus Christ. Grace, mer- 
cy, and peace, be multiplied. 

Dear brethren, I address you on this oc- 
casion, for the purpose of informing my 
brethren, how religious affairs are moving 
in this part of the Lord's vineyard: and I 
can say to my brethren and sisters, in the 
language of the apostle John, 1 rejoiced 
greatly, that I found of thy children walk- 
ing in trU'h, as we have received a com- 
mandment from the Father. I think the 
Old Baptists are gaining ground, or at 
least they are enjoying their liberties: they 
have come out from among the missionary 
institutions, and do not wish to live under 
the free will, or Arminian doctrine any 
longer. And on Saturday before the 
fourth Lord's day in April, the brethren 
and sisters, who hud fell themselves under 
the necessity of withdrawing from the 
missionary Baptists, were constituted into 
a church, known by the name of Mount 
Gilead, upon Primitive Baptist principles, 
by Elders, Elijah Wyatl, William J. 
Pouncey, and myself, who acted as presby- 
tery, in said constitution. They have al- 
so chosen their officers, and commenced 
keeping house, for the Lord; their num- 
ber is twenty four: may the Lord bless 

thenr^ in every good word and work; and 
cause them to walk in truth, and enable? 
them to live to his glory, and keep the" 
unity of the spirit in the bonds of peace, 
and add to their number such as shall be 
saved. On the day of the constitution, 
it appeared, that the Lord was in the phice; 
for the brethren seemed to be of one mind, 
and 1 trust, they had the mind of Chrisf* 
and were willing to walk in obedience to 
his word, as we have received a command- 
ment from the Father. And on Lord's 
day, we had a pleasant and comfortable 
time; the gospel was preached in its puri- 
ty, Christians were made to rejoice in 
heart and s-oul, for the Lord appeared to be 
with us, by his Spirit's power in love, 
which it seems to me, was a manifestation 
of his love to his people, and his approba- 
tion to the course they were pursuing, in 
walking in truth, (that is, according to 
God's word,) which is the only divine 
standard, and the only eorrect rule of faith 
and practice. 

Now, dear brethren, the distress, and 
difficulties, that we are passing through, as 
it respects our situation; and the divisions 
that are existing amongst the Baptists are 
inconsequence of a departure from the 
word of truth; and when men depart from 
the doctrine of the Bible, in their doctrinal 
sentiments, it will produce a change in 
other respects. Now to walk according to 
truth, we must act according to God's 
word, both in faith and practice; we must 
preach the doctrine of Christ, anil walk 
according to his divine command: and if 
there come any unto you, and bring not 
this doctrine, receive him not into your 
house, neither bid him God speed. Here 
we see our course of duty, pointed out in 
God's word, and our acts of obedience, a- 
rising from the principle of divine grace; 
for it is grace, and faith, that produces 
works; but works never did, nor never 
can, produce grace; for by grace are ye 
saved, through faith, and that not of your- 
selves, it is thegift of God; not of works, 
lest any man should boast. 

Again, the apostle Paul says, according 
as he hath chosen us in him, before the 
foundation of the world; that we should be 
holy and without blame before him in 
love,, having predestinated ns unto the a- 
doption of children by Jesus Christ to 
himself, according to the good pleasure of 
his will. Now, if we be holy and without 
blame before him in love, the reason is, 
I we were chosen in Christ before the foun- 



Nation of the world: if we be the adopted 
Children of God, and have received the 
spirit of adoption, whereby we cry Abba, 
Father, the reason is, we were predestin- 
ated thereto; for whom he did foreknow 
he also did predestinate, to be conformed 
to the image of his Son: moreover, whom 
he did predestinate, them he also called; 
and whom he called, them he also justi- 
fied: and whom he justified, them he also 

What shall we say to these things? If 
God be for us, who can be against us? 
Here we are taught, in the word of truth, 
the glorious doctrine of our salvation by 
grace, in and through our Lord Je.-us 
Christ. For> says Jesus, 1 am the way, 
ihe truth, and the life; and no man cometh 
unto the Father but by me. Hence we 
are brought to view unity in trinity, and 
trinity in unity. All this agrees with 
the word of truth, meets our case as fallen 
and helpless sinners; corresponds with the 
life, death, and sufferings, and resurrection, 
of Christ, and agrees with the experience of 
every Christian: for in our experience we [ 
are taught the doctrine of grace, for it is the 
spirit that quiekeneth, and the spirit teach- 
eth into all troth. 

Consequently, no true believer in Jesus | 
Christ can be an Arminian; for before we 
exercise a true gospel faith, we are con- 
vinced by the spirit and grace of God, that 
it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that 
runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy. 
Thus we are brought to view things aright, 
and as the clear children of God we are 
enabled, through grace, to walk in truth; 
as we have received a commandment from 
the Father, and from holy principles of 
love, yield obedience to the command of 
Christ, follow Jesus through the ordinance 
©f baptism, unite with the people of God, 
and live to his praise in Zion. 

Here, brethren and sisters, you had peace 
of conscience, when you discharged your 
duty, as duty; and not as any part of a Sa- 
Tiour. For it is from a principle of love, 
and not from a slavish fear, that the chil- 
dren of God walk in and according to truth. 
And we are taught, by the spirit and grace 
of God, to love one another; for this is the 
message, that ye heard from the begining, 
that we should love one another. Then 
let us cultivate a spirit of love, and let us 
iove not in word, neither in tongue, but 
in deed, and in truth; for he that dwelleth 
in lore, dwelleth in God, and God in 

Now, dear brethren, suffer a few words 
of exhortation, in a few concluding remarks 
on practical godliness. Let us endeavor to 
square our lives by the word of truth, live 
above the elements of the world; ye are 
the light of the world. Then, brethren, 
let your light shine, and glorify God in 
your bodies, and in your spirits, which are 
his. For ye are not your own, but ye are 
bought with a price, even the precious 
blood of Christ. 

Brethren, do we live as the redeemed 
of the Lord should live? Do we fulfil that 
commandment, that says, thou shalt love 
the Lord thy God, with all thy heart, and 
with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, 
and thy neighbor, as thyself? Do we fill 
our seats, in the house of God, as the true 
followers of Christ? Do we shun light, 
and vain conversation? Are our affections 
placed on heavenly and divine things? Is 
the honor, and glory of God, our chiefest 
object? Does the cause of Christ, and 
the good of souls, dwell near our hearts? Is 
the new man of grace in our hearts, in a 
a prosperous state? If so, you feel that Je- 
sus is precious to jour souls, yea, more 
precious than all the perishable objects of 
time and sense. 

Dear brethren, do we pay due regard to 
the divine command of our exalted head, 
even Jesus,',who has given us every neces- 
sary instruction in his holy word for the 
regulation of our conduct, and should be 
the man of our counsel and rule of our lives? 
And let us hear what the wise man Sol- 
omon says on this subject: Fear God, and 
keep his commandments; for this is the 
whole duty of man. And the Psalmist 
David says: Through thy precepts I get 
understanding, therefore 1 hate every false 

Then, brethren, let me admonish you, 
in the spirit of meekness, to faithfully dis- 
charge your duty, as pointed out in God's 
word: and when you have done this, you 
have nothing to boast of, but can only say 
as an unprofitable servant, you have done 
that only, which was jour duly to do. 
For, brethren, I believe God's people is a 
people that is poor in spirit, tempted and 
tried; and is a peculiar people, zealous of 
good works. Then, brethren, every evil 
work is hateful to them. Right here I 
shall say, no Christian love3 sin; and what- 
soever is not of faith, is sin. Therefore, 
when we turn our attention even to the 
professing part of the human family, and 
see and hear so many things, that is contra- 



ry toCod's wort!, we are constrained tosay 
with the Psalmist: I hate every false way. 

And, my dear brethren, let us examine 
ourselves closely, with t he word of truth; 
take the directions af the Saviour where tie 
says: Search the scriptures, for in them ye 
think ye have eternal life, & they arc they 
which testify of me. Take courage, m\ 
brethren, in the cause o.f-fruth; though ma- 
ny, I am persuaded, have forsaken the 
way of the Lord, and arc let! as'ray w i'h 
the doctrines and inventions of men, for 
ther* 1 is a way thatseeme'.h right unto man, 
but the end thereof is death. Wherefore, 
my brethren, take the Bible, God's blessed 
word, and conform your lives thereto: and 
if you are hated, and persecuted, falsely 
for Christ's sake, happy are ye: yea, re- 
joice and be exceedingly glad, for great is 
your reward in heaven, for so petsecu- 
»ed they the prophets, which were before 

Hut, brethren, let none of these things 
move us from our own steadfastness; but 
stand fast in the liberty wherewith Christ 
hath made j-ou free, and be not entangled 
again with the yoke of bondage. Finally, 
brethren, let brotherly love continue; he 
affectionate one to another, bear 3'eone an- 
other's burthens, and so fulfil the law of 
Christ. May we all be united in hear', 
nnd write in love, and avoid bitter words; 
but contend earnestly, in the spirit of 
meekness, for the faith, once delivered to 
the saints. And may the time speedily 
approach, when all Cod's children may 
walk in the truth, as we have received a 
commandment from the Father. In hope 
pf eternal life, I subscribe myself your un- 
worthy but affectionate brother, In the 
bonds of the go-pel. Farewell far the pre- 


SarnesvUle, Monroe county. Ga.~> 
March 1st, IS41. $ 
Dear biethuen Editors: The last 
paragraph of No. 2, will refresh the read- 
er's memory, where and in what condition 
I left the sinner; the last ray of hope of 
justification by good work?, or the deeds 
of tiie law is snatched from him; he cries, 
weeps, mourns, and pours out bis whole 
soul to Gol in prayers and lamentations: 
0, wretched man that I am, who shall de- 
liver me from the body of (his death? 
wretched, ruined, undone, lost, lost, for- 
ever lost. No scape goat to look to for 

protection, no eye to pity nor arm to save; 
and no daysman betwixt us, that might lay 
his hand upon u* both (and plea/l with 
God en my behalf, as a man pleadeth with 
his neighbor ) Job, ix .'$.'5. 

Thus he is brought down to extreme 
poverty. Fie also acknowledges that it 
would be just in God to damn him. but 
plead for mercy he does, and plead tor 
mercy be will, Says. Lord, if 1 p< ri-h. I 
will perish ott'e feet of Ji sua. About this 
time words like these are revealed unto 
him: When ^e were without strength, jn 
due time Chri.-t di< d f r the ungodly. The 
spirit now reveals Christ to him the hope 
of glory. Then it wnsfhal the Lord brake 
in upon his enemies (sins) before him like 
a wide breaking in of waters. Then it 
was that he received the oil of joy for 
mourning, and the garments of praise for 
the spirit of heaviness. V\ hen, ere he was 
aware, his scul was made like unto the 
chariots of Ammenadab, and he does re- 
joice in God his Saviour with joy unspea- 
kable and very full ol glory. 

We now come to the sixth proposition, 
a?) laid down in our text: Except ye be 
converted and become as little children, ye 
cannot entei the kingdom of heaven. Von 
recollect that I remarked to you, that con- 
version presented to view two striking 
features: first, healing the soul wounded hy 
su'o_; 2ndly, the gnat change wrought by 
grace in the manners, disposition, princi- 
ples, and behaviour of the subject of grace. 
Now in order that we come to the subject, 
1 will remark, that the fallow ground of 
the heart must be broken up with the gos- 
pel plough, Luke, ix. 62, and made ready 
for the implantation of grace by a ray of 
gospel tighl shining into the dark benight- 
ed mind; the eyes of the blind, or the un 
clefs' ending, is opened to see the awful 
sink of sin, and the corrupt fountain of 
iivquily wi bin his own wretrhe 1 heart 
from whence it flows. When thus led 
and thus taught by the teaching of the ho- 
ly spirit, he cries out in ths language of 
1) i\ id: O Lord, heal my soul, for 1 have 
sinned. Psa. 41. 4. This character is 
wounded by sin, nay, he is a sin sick soul; 
iie feels and owns, tb it the whole lv j ad is 
sick and the whole heart font; from the 
sole of the foot even unto the head, there 
is no soundness in it, but wounds and 
bruises and putnfying sores, that have not 
been closed, neither bound up, neither 
mollified with ointment. 

1 think I may safely say, that this man 


primarily means healing, and 
ng to be effected alone by a spe- 
ratlon of the precious blood of ihe 
Sun of God. 


that hea 
eial app 


is killed to ths love of sin, for grace has 
had lo do wiib Ids heart. God hath begun 
a g >od work within him by killing him 
Jo ihe love of sin and wicke Iness. God 
hath said in his holy word, ih ii I kill and 
I make alive; I wound and I heal. Dent. 
xxxii. 39. Again; lie woundeth and his 
hands make whole, .lob, v. 18. The brea- 
things of his soul is prayer: Heal me, 
Lord, for 1 have sinned ; heal me and I shall 
be healed. lie cries and weep*, sighs and 
groans, and mourns over his hard, rebel- 
lious, sinful heart, until he is borne down 
the current of despair to the verge of , , 

death; yet he pleads for mercy. Have I I could, in order to try to inform you how 
mercy upon me, O Lord, for I am in the poor despised Old School Baptists are 



Wucoochce, Russell county, Ala 

\2lh April, 1S40. 

Beloved Bhethren: As 1 have seen 

but little in your much esteemed paper 

written from this part of the world, 1 have 

this evening summoned up what resolution 

iniquity. I J .>a. xxxi. 9, 10. This poor! pel preached m rs Primitive purity 
man cried, and the Lord heard him, and bro. John Blackdtone. Notwithstanding I 
saved him out oi all his troubles. Jesus ■ have to day been with my brethren, and 

llspered consojatioft to his troubled soul, \ was pleased with their company, I must 
ping in accents of love; 1 have loved } fell you my feelings have been moitified to 

vith an everlasting love, therefore see. vyhat iheAshdbds are doing. 

oving kindness 1 hive drawn thee. I Early last year this church (Harmony) 

thee wi 
with l( 

Joy springs up in his soul, and he cries out | began to ferment, and soon became so hot 
in sweetest strains: Bless the Lord, O that she burst asunder. The Old School 
ray soul, let all the powers within me b!e--s j were so fortunate, through the mercy and 
his holy name. What shall I render unto I goodness of God, as to hold the consntu- 
the Lord for all his benefits? O Lord, tion and house. The middle grounds, if L 
my God, I cried unto thee, and thou hast j may so call them, built a house about a 
healed me. Psa. xxx.2. In my distress I j mile off, and Ihe preacher, Joel Nichols, 
called upon the Lord, and cried to my God, ! being one of their number, they in order 
and he did hear my voice out of his temple, ' to try and break down the Old School, 
and my cry did enter into his ears; lie sent held their meeting on the same day we 
from above, he took mc, he drew me but 
of many waters, he delivered me from mv 
strong enemy, he brought me into a large 
place. 2 Sam. xxii. 7, 17, 20. He brought 

me to his banqueting house, and bis bannei 
over me was love. Songs, ii. 4. 

I am authorized to say to that man, that 
n shall go well with him. Rejoice ye 
with Jerusalem, and be glad with her, all 
ye that love her, that ye may suck and be 
satisfied with the breasts of her consola- 

held ours. Their number or congrega- 
tion soon became so diminutive, they con- 
cluded to adopt some other plan. About 
this time, which J believe was in February 
las', our meeting house dour was shot thro' 
the lock, & a large pitcher broken in pieces; 
and I am almost persuaded, from language 
dropped by some oi the missionaries of this 
country, that if it were not for rowordica 
and the laws of our country, not only ' t 'ne 
littie band at Harmony, but all the. iVimi- 

lions, thai ye may milk out & be delighted \ tives would soon be. assassins I ofl or put to, 
with ihe abundance of her glory. For thus the rack. To-day, when cir church me? 
saith the Lord: Behold, I will extend j we found Ihe most of t ! .,o benches in the 
peace to her like a river, and the glory of ! house turned upside down. This brom- 
ine Gentiles like a flnwinnr stream: then' 


#liall yesuck and be comforted i 
lem. La. 66. The last quotation is a di- 
gression, for winch 1 hope my brethren 
will pardon me. 

1 shall set it down as a given up point, 
that I have proved to a punctilio, thai con- 

mi, is truly mortifying; but we should be 
thankful, that we are no worse treated, be- 
lieving the true follower's of Christ shall 
suffer persecution. 

There is a great deal of religion in this 
part of the world, The middle grounds 
are quits numerous, and of all ppople seem 

J 36 


to be the best. Though they do not bawl 
and cry aloud like some, yet they love ev- 
ery body, brother every body that seems 
to be religious, and preach, and pray, mix 
and mingle together; and when they are 
disposed to make a tremendous effort, get 
up a revival in a very short time and con- 
vert a goodly number at one meeting. 
This is one evidence they hold forth, of 
their being in the right way. These, with 
the missionaries of every class, holding 
their protracted (or rather distracted) mee- 
tings, having such wonderful ingatherings, 
will boast to a poor Old School Baptist, 
and almost laugh him out of countenance. 
But, brethren, these are such who are spo- 
ken of who have the form of godliness, but 
deny the power thereof. For they appear 
to do all the work Ihemselves, and would 
have all the glory too. And you might as 
well command the stars to fall from hea- 
ven, as to convince them that any other 
way is right. 

I have at times, when in conversation 
with these over-righteous professors, en- 
deavored to prove by the word of God, 
that he does not work in this way to bring 
his elect from darkness to light. But they 
will say again, look what ingatherings we 
have; what powerful stirs; how zealous 
and numerous ou,r preachers; how affecting 
their discourses; (or I would say sympa 
thetic tales.) And sometimes they have 
become so boisterous, that I have been 
compelled to drop the subject and in mv 
min I say, go ahead. But about this time 
this scriptu e occurs to my mind: And for 
this cause God shall send them strong de- 
lusion, that they should believe a lie: that 
they all m : ght be damned who believed 
not the trutn, but had pleasure in unrigh- 
teousness. The delusion certainly is very 
strong. For you may go to a night or 
class meeting, anil hear one of their little 
exhorters get up and tr 11 some pitiful story 
about I lie death of a child six or eight years 
of age, that, had been converted by the rea- 
ding of some of their valuable tracts: and 
you ma)' hear one scream here and another 
there, until the whole house is in an up 
roar. Ask one of them what sort of a 
meeting they had, and the reply will be, 
wonderfil! a great revival indeei! ! And 
this they will call the best of preaching and 
pure religion. I verily believe it answers 
a valuable purpose to a missionary money 
hunter. P'or soon alter one of thuse screa- 
ming frolics, while the fit is on, the hat is 
yery apt to go round and the speaker sel- 

dom fails to get enough of their small 
change to pay him handsomely for his sto- 
ry; which these deluded, bigoted, creatures 
will call the preaching of the gospel. 

In such cases this scripture occurs to my 
mind: But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to 
them that are lost; in whom the god of this 
world hath blinded the minds of them 
which believe not, lest the light of the glo- 
rious gospel of Christ, who is the image of 
God, should shine unto them. And these 
very emissaries of satan are hiding the gos- 
pel from them, instead of preaching it; and 
are teaching for doctrine the command- 
ments of men, saying: Go ye into such a 
State, county, or neighborhood, for there is 
much wealth there. And if one story will 
not suffice, hand out a favorite tract, perad- 
venture you may so affect the minds 
people as to operate on their purses also. 
Many of these things I have witnessed 
when present with them, but have of late 
determined not to go to their meetings: for 
I cannot have charity for any one that 
holds forth a doctrine not found in the 
word of God, and verily believe, that thro' 
vain philosophy, cunningly devised fahles, 
lying catechisms, Sunday schools, hypo- 
critical and sectarian teachers, our once free 
and happy government will be wholly sub- 
verted. For is it not easy to be seen, that 
there is a sect of people at this lime, who 
are endeavoring to inculcate in the minds 
of the rising generation their nefarious 
principles, by all the ingenuity that man is 
possrssed of, to bring about a speedy disso- 

My sheet is nearly out, and 1 must quit 
writing. Yours in bonds of Christian love. 


Jacks Creek, Henderson en. Ten. ? 
rfpril 13/ h, 1S41. $ 

Beloved Brethren; I should nothave 
troubled you with another scribble of mine 
so soon, if it was not for some mistakes I 
find in the one I » rote Dec'r 20ih, 1840., 
and published in vol. 6(h, No. 4th. of the 
Primitive Baptist; which mistakes 1 wish 
you all to correct. 

Page 59, 1st column, 8th line, into ought 
to read unto. In the next column, same 
page, 41 h, 5th, and 6th lines, I charged Mr. 
Paxton of quoting from the Apocrypha; 
this was a mistake in me, for which 1 
ought to make my humble acknowledg- 
ment, and beg Mr. Paxton to take this as 



such, and forgive me the wrong contained 
in these three lines only and no more. A- 
gain, the same column, a few lines below, 
j/i referring to JVlr. P.'s letlers, il should 
have been the 4th vol. instead of the 1st. 
Again, page 60, first column, in speaking 
of Abraham's promised seed, the word 
(Jews) I wish the subscribers all to scratch 
out. This word (Jews) must be a mistake 
in the printer. 

jNow may the grace of our Lord Jesus 
Christ be with you all, and keep you in 
love and peace and union, and keep you 
ajl from error, is the prayer of yours, &c. 


SATURDAY, MAY 8, 1841. 


Bergcr's Store, Pittsylvania county, Va. ~) 
February 1, 1841. 5 

Dear Brethren: I wish to give you some of 
my thoughts concerning the subject of religion. 
First, I must say to my readers; that I have been 
accused of making a saviour of baptism; or of say- 
ing that I did not believe that there was any per- 
son saved but those who are immersed, which I 
never said. But I do say, that baptism by im- 
mersion is the only Christian baptism, or gospel 
baptism; and I believe it is essential to obedience, 
and not to salvation. For I say the thief on the 
cross was saved, and will not say that he had 
been immersed in water; no, but he was saved, 
and so are children 6aved without water bap- 

But this was a Mr. Missionary Baptist, that 
6aid I said there were none saved but them that 
were immersed, and he did not say the truth. 
And again he said, sprinkling or pouring was as 
good as immersion. So say I for hypocrites, but 
not for the children nf the free woman. And so I 
must put the missionaries and sprinklers in one 
pen, as I believe from scripture they are wrong. 
And as some pf them have said, we the Old 
School Baptists are like the Roman Catholics, I 
will if God please, show how much more the 
sprinklers and missionaries are like the Catholics 
than we aTe ; 

First 1 will say, that the Catholic priests did 
not go without money, and that was the great 
cause that moved therm For they could do any 
thing, or say they could, for money; which you 
missionaries will not deny, 1 hope, that the mov- 
ing cause of the Catholic priests is money, so 1 
peed not prove it. But now I will say, that the 
missionaries will not go without money, and so 

they are like the Catholic priestsi But this will 
be denied by the missionaries, so I must prove it; 
which I can do from their documentsi See the 
Minutes of the sixteenth annual meeting of the 
Gen&ral Association of Virginia, June 1839, page 
3, here comes the proof: — 

Resolved, That deeply sympathizing in the ef- 
forts of the American Baptist Board of Foreign 
Missions, to replenish their treasury and to send 
to the relief of our brethren abroad additional la- 
borers who are now waiting to go. 

Here my readers will sec, that the missionary 
laborer will not go on without money; for you 
he'ar the Board say, that there are some waiting for 
the Board of foreign Missions to replenish their 
treasury. So you see they cannot, or will not, or 
do not go, when there is no money for them 
but you hear them say, they are waiting for the in- 
crease of their treasury. So money is the main 
spring of missions in this day, and so it was, & is 
now, with the Catholic priests. So you missionists 
are like the Catholic priests, for 1 have proved mo-i 
ney is what you go for, though you do deny it; 
hut it is so, and your Minutes will prove it, for 
some are waiting for money, and all that your 
Board have sent are under pay, from $18 to 30 or 
$40 per month. So them that have gone to pre- 
tend to preach have gone for the money, and your 
Minutes say some are waiting for it; so you are 
like Catholic priests and not wei 

But now I will give you, my friends, some facts 
concerning the baby sprinklers, which I will take 
from the old Episcopal prayer book, page 105. 
There you can see that they did say, the child was 
regenerate after it was baptized, and so they make 
a Saviour of baptismi And yet some of them will 
say, that the Baptists make a Saviour of baptism; 
which is not the truth, for they that do this are not 
worthy of the name Baptist. 

But to their prayer book. See page 105 and 
106i First they say, if those who present the in- 
fant, shall desire the sign of the cross to be omit- 
ted, although the church knows no worthy cause 
of scruple concerning the same, yet in that case 
the minister may omit that part of the above which 
follows the immersion or pouring water on the 

Here you see, my brethren, in old times those 
who wanted their childaen baptised did immerse 
them, or pour water on them if they were notheal- 
thyi And all this was done to save the child, for 
they say when the child is baptized then it is re? 
generated, this is the cause that they did baptize 
children at first, and then that baptism did save 
therm And this is the cause of infant baptism, 
for that is what they did it for at the first, so they 
are like the Catholics< 

And again, we hear them say something -about 
the sign of the cross, £ci Here are popish tradi- 



tions, yet you sprinklers and modern missionaries pries'hood now being changed. We have & 
say we, the Old School Baptists, are like Catho- 
lics. I think you should he the Inst people that 
ever would say the Old School frnptUts. are like 
Catholicsi But here it conies riy.ii t from your old 
prayer hook: Then shall the minister say. seeing 
now, dearly beloved brethren, thai Ihis child is re- 
generate, &c. Here you, my readers, see, thai 
they say the child is regenerated after they have 
baptised it; which is not the truth, for the child is 
just as it was before, and there is narpgeneralion, 
for what man can do fur himself nor for what they 
can do for Iheir children For without grace 
there is no regeneration, and that grace is given to * J,,,< 

high priest which is hot made after the law 
ul a carnal commandment, but after tiie 
power. uTan endless life; made afier I lie 
aider of Me! dii-edec, and his ministers, 
<o to srieak, ate the p.iiests thai ait<nd to 
the conunon business of the house tf God' 
while he 'himself is entered into the holy 
t)l holies, now to appear in llie presence of 
God for os. 

And ! will now s°l th n priests or minis- 
ters in their place, and hist lit everv one 
work in ihe place' thai is assigned him of 
uid let him refuse to work any 

where eNe, aod he sure not to try one to 
(lb Ihe work of another, neither sh ill ihey 
lord it over God's heritage in any wise; 
(mv remarks are principally to those that 
are called of (iod, not of men, to the cue 
of churches.; Ihey should also work 
wilh Iheir own hand when they can, but 
never at the neglect of ' lh<f churches; \ et 
they lave n right to furbrar woiking, and 
i he s' should and God's ministers do s'udy 
(yes, and while their brethren arc taking 
their repose,) night and day as a parent 
having ihe w.uch care ovir his children, 
as one thai has to give an a. count, that 
thev may do it with joy and not wiih 
gi ie.f. And lliey feel their duty unto their 
L.ord so to do, and that they should visit 
begin with j them whenever they feel impressed so 10 
Nehemiah, | do, And ifany error should get among 

us, the church of Christ, before the world was. 

I must come to a close, for my street is full. See 
page 106 of the same hook, and you will see that 
they say ai<ain, the child is regenerated after bap- 
tism. So nothing more on this wise, but as e/er 
your brother in Christ I hope. Farewell. 

11. ROlffiB. 

to Enrreits primitive baptist. 

Rocky Mount, Merriwdher enmity, ) 
March 2:W, 1-841. \ 
Chf.tiiukn Editors: Having a few 
moments of leastne time, I sh down to ad- 
dress you a few lines on a subject which 
lias some time Iain with n> snail weight 
on my mind. And 1 wii 
writing down this scripture 

13 chip, 10 and 1 I vs. And 1 perceived \ them, to study how to set them right; and 
that the portions of the Leri'es had not ' ifany heresy, lo he cartful to remove it, 
been given them, for ihe Leviles and the \ and not rind a meu.bei Tiom Christ's body. 
Singers that did the work were fled every I To study 'he scriptures, that is, to lead 
one to his field. Then ronknded I with I them and meditate upon them; to be so 
ihe rulers and said, why is the house of I conversant with them as to have them at 
God forsaken? And 1 gathered them lo- hand, and always 'ready lo stop the mouths 

of gainsayers; to visit the brethren more 
than once a month, and to know if all is 
well among them, and ifany difficulty, to 
aid in making peace between brethren, and 
if possible lo fettle all such and nev< r lei it 
come lo the church; to see their ministcr- 

gether, ami set them in iheir place. 

Now although thes • thing- p i tamed to 
the Jewish economy, yet they are appli- 
cable to us in the present day. And for 
proof of this, read the 3rd chap of Mala- 
chi, and especially the 3rd v. which icids 
thus; And he shall sit as a refiner and ing bre'hnn, and to hear how the churches 

purifier of silver, and he shall purify ihe 
sons ol 'Levi, and purge them as gold am 

do undir their watch care In a word, to 
study to show themselves approved nolo 

silver, that ihey in iy offer unto the Lord ; God. This seems to have been the I'nm- 
an offering in righteousness. Now the itive example, and God's spirit tenches 
prophet was here evidently looking forward the same no»v. 
to the gospel day, and the Levi tea to whom 
pertained the office of the common priest- 
hood, answeis lo the ministers of the 
church at this day. Now as Anion an I 
his sons look the high priest's office by 
course, and the Leviies officiated in the 

Now how can we rationally suppose a 
minister to do tlvse Ihii gs, when ihe 
churches fail to act their pari towards 
him? And as portions were appointed 
tic Levites under ihe old covenant, so as 
we .-aid before ihe piiislhoud being chan'g- 

common business of the temple, so the i ed, there are portions also appointed the 

PRIMITIVE baptist. 


ministers of ihe church uivler the nrw cjv 
venani. But alas! is it the cise that (he 
ministers of the house of Gnd h ve been 
compelled lb ahandon iheir work in a good 
degree; and I.ask, fur „whal cuse is it? 
Because (he rhur<jhesha've Pot (rotten them. 

tell ii not in flat h, puhli-hit not in the 
streets of Askalon, lest i he daughters of 
theuncircumcised gun a triumph, (I me-an 
fal<e chinches. ) 

Brethren, 1 would not publish it, were 
it not thai I lovcyon, neither do 1 speak 
in respect of want myself; for I have all 
thingsand abpund^aod I h i ve' learn ■■(! if 

1 have fooil and raiment to be content. 
Neither do 1 publish it for their sakes alone, 
that have suffered wrong, nor for their 
sakes alone that have done wrong; bu! 
that my rare for you may be made mani- 
fest, and tliat your minds may be stirred 
up by way of remembrance. And al- 
though it is a painful task to pep the things 
that I am about to do, in consequence of 
the reproach that die churches ;oe under, 
and lest some should say that 1 was advo 
eating the cause of the missionaries, let 
Ihem remember, that although the right of 
Ihe ministry has been abused by the mis- 
sionaries, this bus not diminished the 
claims of. i he ministry in ll e hast; for the 
Lord has ordained, that they th it prt aeh 
the gospel should live of the gyspel. 

Whogoeth a waifare any time at U- 
ovvn charges? who fcedeth a fl ck. and 
eateth not of the milk of the flock? Thou 
shall not muzzle i he mouth of the ox that, 
tieadeth ot.'t the corn. Therefore, if your 
ministers hive sown mvo \ on spiritual 
thing--, is it a great thing if they sii .11 leap 
your carnal thing-? Say 1 iJiese things ; ,s 
a man, or saith not i tie scriptures the 
same also? But you have disn warded 
some of y our ministers,.- and mulled the 
mouihofthepx ill at in a d ah nut die corn, 
in I hat yon require their hlmis and exact 
all at their hands when in very deed you 
have in effect tied ihem to the plough hand- 
les, or confined ihem io the blacksmith's 
shop, or to some oilier business, in order 
that ihey may make a scanty 1 i \ i . o- for 
themselves and families. And in s> do- 
ing, you have indi. eel ! \ driven the g-i«pel 
in a great de >ree away from your houses. 
I said a scanty living, nol bill what they 
could do weil if they could remain at 
home at their respective avocation- ; Inn 
then they have the caie of all the churches 
over and above, and when ihey get home, 
it is as much as they can do lo set things 

in order, until ;he time come that ihey 
have to go again. And ihey are compelled 
!o stay at hone, when they ought not; 
and when they gi, leaving their affairs to 
be all in disorder when ihey return. I 
speak noi ofnll, bul of some; for most of 
the ministers a:e men that earn their bread 
by their labor. 

Now take one example among many 
and lei tins suffice, lest 1 he though' on 
the extreme. I know a minister that has 
but a poor benefice in life, who has to go 
a greai deal; he has a weakly wife and sev- 
eral small children, ami he himself not 
healthy. In order now lo make a living, 
and discharge his duly towards the church- 
es, he labors night and day; when the 
time arrives thai he must go, he -tans 
with -.a heavy .heart, because he has to love 
his children in the rage of winter bare foot 
and barehead and thinly clothed, for his 
wife is not able to attend to her own busi- 
ness and his too as ii should be; which stri- 
ving io dolus exposed her lo ihe wintry 
blast until her beahh hash, come impaired, 
and now she is nol able to at.iend to the 
business as b fore. Moreover, medical 
aid mnsl he called in, the physician .9 fee 
high, and hiving made noihing to spare 
ml noi enough to u-e. this n an has 
bi come in dehi, and being heretofore 
forced from home at sundry time-, his 
farm moinu down, his cattle and slock of 
al kinds which he has neglected. And 
surely ibis mail's condition resembles 
much ihe case of unihrift vi and now I a-k, 
wh it must he do? why, the hreihren say, 
come. And when wi h reluctance he 
makes known Ins condition, by way ot 
i x<-u-c in some >h gree, they support him 
w\\\\ fhe.-e promises 1 hive nevi r saw 
the righteous forsaken, nor his s ed beg- 
ging bread. N >w God dors not \\oik 
miracles in 'his day, nor lei d men on 
manna; and to say ih s is temi ting God, 
and is not unlike saying, be ye warmed 
and filled, and ai ihe same lime g've them 
not those things which are needful. And 
what doth ii profit? Look not upon us, O 
Lor. I. according io o r h iquils ; bul ac- 
cording to. thy loving kindness, remember 
noi against us our transgressions, but for- 
give us for the sike ol him that d.eJ for 

Now. brethren, T praise you that yon 
hare. distinguished yourselves in a great 
degree as Primitive Bapli>ts, and have suf- 
fered many things f r ihe truth's sake. 
Then let us not stop here, but let us do 



all our duty, and let it not be said that we 
have invited the gospel indirectly away 
from us in that we neglect our ministers 
anymore. I know the brethren, many of 
them, do not know the privations a preach- 
er has to go throtmh; and there are some 
willing, and not able. 1 charge them not 
with neglect, but lei us one-and all, accord- 
ing as God has prospered us, so give; for 
our God requires not according to that a 
man hath not, but according to that which 
he hath. And now I have confidence in 
you, through Jesus Christ, that you will 
be none otherwise minded; but that you 
will all strive together in the bond of the 
gospel, remembering what you are called 
unto, and think not that we have done all 
our duty, when we have given a small 
pittance to our pastors. No, hut to all the 
needy in all our ranks. And in so doing, 
we have the approbation of our God, but 
in neglect of these things, we provoke his 
chastening rod. 

And now I admonish some of the breth- 
ren, to quit this striving about certain 
things to no profit in the Primitive, but 
rather let us strive whoshill excel in good 
works, and each one set an example of 
good things for the other, Let our chief 
end be to provoke one another to love, 
which works no ill to his neighbor. I 
have written this scrip, hoping it will find 
a place in your hearts. May the grace of 
our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. 


Jllabama, Monroe county, > 
June 6M, 1?40. \ 

Dear beloved Brethren in the 
Lord: Grace be unto you, and peace be 
multiplied, from God the Father and the 
Lord Jesus Christ. I for the first time 
write you a few lines, for no other pur- 
pose but merely to let you know that there 
is such a being as m} self; and to let the 
world know the reason why I cannot be a 

I am no preacher, nor never expect to 
be; but I think 1 know the truth when I 
hear it, and I know that I do love my 
brethren that write in the Primitive Bap- 
list. For if it does not contain that living 
food, which a man may eat thereof and not 
die I am eternally lost; for 1 do believe, 
that the whole church of Jesus Christ was 
given to him by God the Father in a cove- 
nant of grace before the world was, and 

not one of them will be lost. For we 
hear him saying: Thine they were and 
thou gavest them me, and I give unto 
tiiem eternal life and they shall never per- 
ish, neither is any able to pluck them out 
of my hand. And my Father which give 
them me is greater than all, and none is 
able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. 
And no man can come to me, except my 
Father which hath sent me draw him, and 
I will raise him up at the last day. And 
they shall all be taught of God, and he that 
hath learned of the Father cometh to me, 
and he that cometh to me 1 will in no wise 
cast out. 

Now he that isa'hirst let him come to 
Christ, for we hear him saying, in the last 
day, that great clay of the feast, if any man 
thir-t let him come to me and chink. Hence 
we find, that the sinner must go to Christ, 
and not to the missionaries. This is one 
reason why I cannot be a missionary, for 
their doctrine is, the gospel cannot go 
without money and education; but my Bi- 
ble says, when they persecute you in one 
city, flee ye to another. And not only 
so, but let us see what John the revelator 
says on the subject: And I saw an angel 
fly in the midst of heaven, having the 
everlasting gospel to preach unto them 
that dwell on the earth, and to every na- 
tion, and kindred, and tongue, and people. 
So my advice to missionaries is, to repent 
therefore and be converted, that your sins 
may be blotted out when the times of re- 
freshing shall come from the presence of 
the Lord. For except ye repent and be 
converted, and become as a little child, ye 
shall in no wise enter into the kingdom of 
God. I have not pointed out any of the 
passages of scripture 1 have quoted, know- 
ing that my Primitive brethren are Bible 
readers; and if I have missed any quotation, 
1 beg forgiveness, as my education is limit- 

One more reason why I cannot be a 
missionary, and then 1 will come to a 
closo. On Friday after the second Sunday 
in November, (1S38) about sun rise, I 
have a hope to believe that my sins were 
forgiven, after being much troubled a- 
bout my situation, from early in the spring 
of the same ) 7 ear. And if I was forgiven, 
it was done as quick as lightning, and I 
verily thought that I never should see any 
more trouble as long as I lived; for I loved 
every body, both friends and foes, and if 
1 am not mistaken I have some of these 
feelings occasionally yet. And now, 



Hiinkinglhat every body were Christians 
that professed to be, I went and joined a 
missionary church unt.houghtedly. But, 
alas! how long did my pleasure last. 

It vvas but a little while before the 
r-htirch 1 was in got a charge, and that 
from the pulpit, that we should not allow 
the Old School side to preach at our 
church, ami if we did, he (our preacher) 
had no use for us; and then said to me thai 
same evening, if one of them preached in 
that house again, he never would. Now 
having several reasons to believe, that he 
was a sneak, 1 vvas wicked enough to try 
him once more; so takes my Old School 
brother with several other brethren, and 
up we goes the day being appointed, and 
occupied the house. But the Ishmaelite 
never quit, so we see they will sneak. 

The next news was, no man could be a 
Christian that would not give his money 
to those benevolent institutions; I now be- 
came greatly distressed, seeing they were 
the big side. And a certain lady said, she 
could not see how so many people could be 
wrong, and so few right. This bore wish 
weight on my mind for several days. 1 
tried to beg the Lord as well as 1 could, if 
it was according to his pleasure to show me 
what to do. After I had given up all 
hopes, that I never should know who was 
right, though greatly desiring to know, 
my mind now being spun out to full length, 
these words offered to my mind: Have 
you not read my word through? 3 answer- 
ed in my mind, I have. Then it offered: 
Have you ever found my people any thing 
else, but a poor little despised set? I an- 
swered, 1 never have; and away went my 
burden, and I never have been troubled 
since. Then came lhc<e words into my 
mind: I rather go and suffer affliction 
with the people of God, than to have all 
the treasures of Egypt, or to be called the 
son of Pharaoh's daughter. Here I was 
made to rejoice, and quit the missionaries. 
Now, my brethren, 1 believe that the 
spirit of God will guide his people. Let 
us hear what Jesus says on the subject. 
When lie the spirit of truth is come, he 
will guide you into all truth; for he shall 
receive of mine and shall show it unto 
you. All tilings that the Father hath are 
mine, therefore s iid I, that he shall take 
of mine and shall show it unto you. 

1 must come to a close. If you think 
this worth publishing, you can do so; if 
not, my feelings will not he hurt at all, as 
1 never wrote for public piint before. 

Now may Elijah's God bless you, and 
may he save us all in his kingdom, is my 
prayer for Christ sake. Amen. 



Mississippi, Noxubee county, 
July 9th, 1840. 

Dear Brethren : For the first and 
perhaps the last time, 1 have set down to 
s nd you a few lines about the times in 
this part of the country ; which you are at 
liberty to dispose of as you think best. 
You can either publish them in your paper, 
or burn them at discretion. I am but a 
plain n«.an and have no learning, but I am 
in hopes 'hat you will overlook my blun- 
ders, and mistakes. 

There is a people here, who call them- 
selves missionaries. They have taken 
these grounds, that no one can understand 
the word of God, (though they may be 
Christians and Bible readers.) unless they 
have been instructed in all the branches 
taught in the benevolent schools. This is 
the means used in this country to pervert 
the minds of the children of God, and 
make merchandise of them. They are 
told by their preachers to read money 
books, if they wish to understand the 
mysteries of the gospel. Again, they 
have found many errors in the scriptures, 
and say that our present translation is rot- 
ten and vulgar, and ought not to be read 
or spoken in the presence of fern ales. One 
of their preachers observed to me, that I 
would be ashamed to read the gospel in 
presence of my family. But brethren, I 
think he was mistaken, (if I know myself;) 
for 1 am not ashamed of the gospel of 
Christ, for it is the power of God unto sal- 
vation to every one that believcth. 

My dear brethren, when we hear them 
say such things, is it not enough to move 
God's people onward to their duty? and 
God bring our strength, sole! us do. Let 
us. strive against spiritual wickedness in 
high places, which is, (in my opinion,) 
religious science, falsely so called. Then 
people boa.-t of their wisdom, their learn- 
ing, anil ihcirpiely; and rejoice in their 
might and strength, and deceive themsel- 
ves, from the fact that the world gives 
heed to their doctrines and commandments. 

My dear beloved brethren, I am often 
limes made to rejoice when I read the 
word of God and fiud that not many migh- 
ty, or wise, or prudent men are called; 



but the weak things to confound the migh- 
ty and wise in their own craftiness. lint 
we are told, lb >t 'lvse are sect u ia;i prinei 
pies. If ilny In-, br . t hren. sill they me 
the doctrine of (he S.i\:tour. 5{eid his 
own wci his, 11 rh':i|) vferses'3-5 and 
26: I thank thre, O Fa her. Lord of hea- 
ven Miid earth', l/ee&rise lb m ii &' hid thes- 
things from the wise and prudent, and 
hast r> veali ci them onto balx s" &c U bat 
shall We say lo these things}! \( Gnil |,,, 
for us, who can he ag'fiiVst us? Let u ; 
therefore not sleep its do others. And 
that, Knowing the lime, th d mnv it i-i high 
lime in awake out of>lec*p; for now is our 
solvation nea'ir lb m when we "first believ- 
ed. 'I he t):-ht is far -p tu¥, the day is at 
hand: let us tiiCi'tdbro c.i-t eif the works of 
darkness, and lei us nut On the armor of 
light. Horns !3 clfap. And now, breth- 
ren, if we are the children of light lei its 
walk in i> r if < Jod will enable us so to do: 
and I prav God, that we may ever be able 
to gi i e an answer of tiie reason of the 
hope that i- in us. 

U the depth of the riches both of the 
wisdom and knowledge of God, how nil 
sean liable are bis judgments, and his Ways 
past find it'g out? fur who hath kno>n the 
mind of tlie Lord, or who bath been his 
cotinselhii ? t >, brethren, w lien I see siich 
deep schemes laid to sap (if it weie possi- 
ble) the very foundation of our hope, I am 
made to vvondi r how I escaped thcii hand-. 
1 have been in the M.ip'Lt church t n years, 
eight years of she time in confusion. IJujt 
thanks be to God, I am now from finder 
these ta'^ gatherers & hirelings ohee mote. 

The church to which I belong is in 
peace; we number between forty and fifty 
members. Though there are a number of 
churches in our country '.hat arc yet entan- 
gled in priestcraft or witchcraft; for as 
Simon was, so are they; because money is 
their God. Oneofihem told me not long 
since, that he would preach for hi* breth- 
ren as long as they would pay him well 
for it; and if they would not give him 
money for it, that he wOuM qnit preaching 
and make money some other way. lie 
would no lo making eollon, and .if 
would not flo be would go to overseeing; 
for have ii he must and have it he would. 
I rt ckon, brethren, thai he is like Eli's sons 
were: they wanted the people lo give them 
raw fitch, and if they would not give ii 
them they would have it any how. 

Mere 1 will give you a few things [i\hm 
the Minutes of the Georgia Stale Conven- 

tion. It seems from the statements in this 

piece, th'tlh-v are hfsi'atinir, whetb-r or 

not tb'-y shall call home some of their 

missi manes for the want of means to sus- 

Ttin th"m, sfnd th-n recommend vigorous 

land persevering effort's lira u-ed throughoirt 

I 'he St.- te to raise more monev. On i J ai:e 

8— S, i fifty thou ■'and dollars a-e reported 

Mo be iii good s'o k at interest, and iii'ty 

thousand in cash mi hand. Oh, brethren, 

is not this enough to rerftbve the icil from 

the eyes of ev ry one of God's ehiLrcn. 

! will no' ird.ible yon a' IhfJti'rtre about 
the iVMv : traiisla'''it>ri of ihe Bible, whfeh I 

' X.Ci I i- in. thing new will) yon. I will 
(•Jose my remarks by sayii'is, you can use 
ihem/as it seem-; go-ol wflb you. It is 
'he ii st time my na ne was ever *e^n (on 
paper) on such an occasion. Yours in gos- 
pel bonds. JOHN UsJYiXES. 


Hazel Green, Mndrsnn counfy. Jila. > 
October 29///, IS 10. $ 

Deaii BnEfRriE?j ; : Though a stranger 
in the fl sh. yei I hope not in spirit; fur 
I; foil the language I hear in the 
Primitive piper, I feel sometimes, little as 
' am. that. 1 have hem taught at the same 
school and fry the same teacher; who ever 
h is, and ever will, teach all his chosen ones 
•be si me lesson, and give them the same 

And ibis is the reason why they all see 
eye to eye, and speak the same thing, and 
an so united to e eh o: her, and will not hear 
the voice of an uncertain sound, because 
the j know not the voice of strangers. See 
St. John, 10! Ii chap, 2, 3, 4, 5 verses: Hut 
be that eiUereih in by the door, is the 
sh< ph.- rd of th" shc< p; lo him the porter 
opehetb. and the sheep hear his voice; and 
he calletb his own sheep byhame J , and lead- 
i th thi m out. And when he putieth forth 
his own sheep, he got tit before them, and 
the sheep follow him, for they know his 
voice. And a stranger will they not fol- 
low, hul will (Ice from him, for tiiey know 
not the voire ofstrangers. 

And I find in the P'irmiiive paper, that 
there is a great sifting in the churches 
iu different parts of the country, as 
well as with us. See Luke, 12th ehap. 32 
verse: Fear not, little flock, for it is your 
Father's good pleasure to give you the 
kingdom. You, the chosen and elected 
people of God. Not for any merit on our 




part, but a lich favor of God, given wiih- 
out money and without price. 

Dear brethren, my head's desire nn<\ 
pnyerie Rod is. t b. it tlv sifting m*y con- 
tinue. until the lively s ones are separated 
from the filth or t'.e dead ones. For ye 
also, a* lively stories, are built up n spirit* a holy priesthood, to offer u;>. 
&c here on i h is chief* corner stone, eleol, 
nrt'cioiis. And \ on khovv t tie use o! a 
conn r s'one i*. for il e aicbHect 'o sijathc-i 
Wffeibe.r t!ie materials and u-ui is them i- 
One thereon, which is the \votk of the hiK- 
handman; and i am Ihe-titie vine and tny 
Fatl cr is the hush and'mau. 

And tlie}' are brought; together not b\ 
an.v mound (.'libit of mortals, but dr-evBn 
by the ev< r'as;ing love <>l God the Pitib 
ft to his Son. N > m mi comctfi to me, ex- 
cept the Father which senl me draw li'^m. 
Tills is the way the ancient sinners were 
brought to tht: knowledge of ihe,, 
and I helieve it to be God'i «vay ye*. Km 
according to the faith that sorjie hold in 
this rountrs , they have found qui a mighty 
easy way to gel to heaven, much nearer 
than the apostles taught. A foolw.a~y 
made with money, that is above ail the 
hills and mountains of unbelief and Quag- 
mires of sin ihit we Gel Mip'hts are so 
ofien falling into. And this moneyed 
way is seen with the n aoral eye. This 
way is taught by men-made teachers, and 
is desir/d^ arid pursued and, by 
sell- billed men iu»d women. 

We have great reason to think God', 
thai we are at peace among ouvsel'ves, as 
an Association. AToufhistlneetiugiogtSth- 
er in an AswwrarWnti, trre rrrtfrrches «* neraiiy 
complained of roidne-s. but in peace and 
love. I never saw a more united spirit 
manifested among brethren, than was du- 
ring our last Association; every thing was 
done « i:h the u'most saii-f .ctinn. So 1 i 
close hf subscribing myself yours in liib- 


9th, at Galloway's m. h. ; 10th, at Red 
!f.inU>; Il'h. at Greenville; 12ih,at Great 
•< yam.p; 13ih, at Corretoe; H h, at Tarbo- 
ro'; !5h, at. I'o vu Greek; 16th, at Upper 
Town Creek; 17lh, at Palis Tar River. 


Elder IVm. Burns, from Virginia, is 
expected to preach at Richland Gi'iapei, on 
the 24th May; 25 h, at Sotrh UV-t m h.; 
26di, at the K.\ ; 27h, a.l Y-otip"* tw. h. ; 
30th, at Sunup Sound; 31,1, at Wfcrds- 
vilie; June 1st] at Nori'h East; 2d, at 
While Oak; 3d, at Il.ulnoi's Creek: 4lh, 
at Hell's; 5th, al Newport Chapel; 6il>, at 
Siocumb's Creek; #th, at Swift Creek: 


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Qanaday, Qravensvr'lU. William Welch, Aljbotfi 
CrccU, .!. Lamb, tiitrndeu V,, il. A. 1$. Bains, 
lr, StfigJiope. C T. Sawjcr, Powe-Ws Point. 
Isaac Tiiiery, Lij&tnrt, 'i'tiom-as Miller, Eliza. 
bed} C : tij. li.irris -VVilkerami, jfest Point. Isaac 
A I ■.ler.'ir.ui, Mon'rds Creek, .Ii'n^s Miller, Milton 
Park. l)avid li. Ganaday, French's Mills. L, F». 
Beardsley, G-eenoifle. Isaac Meekin«»v Columbia, 
L. .J. J. Packett, ll.c'dn-l. Win. M. Rushing 
Whiles Slit e. Hicharj lluuse, Strubaie. Wood- 
sou Parish, 'IX&ahos, 

South i Jarol-jka. — lamps Flemhree, Sen. A'l- 
dcrnon G. If. » J iinrles (earter, Cambridge, li, 
La\Vn-nce, Effingham-. James Burris, Sen, Buld 
Spring. Wiliiam S. S,haw, Hook Mills. Levi 
I,-e, Bluckvdlt Andrew WpstmrarelaBd, Cash- 
vWt. R. il.ue.ihna, Jliken, Marshal McGraw, 
liroion's. JuTin Li Ni:si;>si»n. Cooltham, ], Gi 
(5 -.vers, ficko?if il li. Win. Vehon, Cumdea, (J, 
M.uliews, Mount Willing. Jacob B. Higginsj, 

GiinitoiA. — William IMnseley, Bear Creek. A}~ 
le.n (.'ievela iA;fS\r.Boiiough\ John Mctvenney, For- 
si/lli. Anth my I luibnv.iy, Lagrange. P.M. Gal- 
houn, linosuulc. li. Rijese, Sat on ton. Thomas 
Aims vnul David w. Patuian. Lexington, Jona- 
than \ : eel, JiVmes Holl'ilrsgsworlli and Stephea 
Cask-How, Macon. William D. Taylor, Union 
llill. lolm w. Turner, Pleasant iiil. Joshua 
Uttwiioin, -tl lairsvi He. .las. M. Rcckmore, UpcUoie. 
P. II. Kdwanls, Gcorg.-toirn. Win. Trice, 17w n- 
aston. Kv.ra McOrary, Wurrenton, Prior Lewis, 
liddaey. John Lassclter, Vernon. B.Pace, Fan Wert, 
L. Peacock, CutosvUle. V, D.Whatley, Bamexvilte. 
Alex. Garden and Thomas OiTrice, Mount 'rfome. 
KliasO. liawthorn, Bainbridgt J. G. wintrin"-- 
1i;.!ti, Flo-mice. \\ 'in. Mi Arans, GreenviWc. Ran- 
dolph Arnold, Lalimer*s Store. T. J. Dazemore, 
Clinton. Jo^.Sto'/ailv^ezi.'lif/. Jason Grier, Indian 

S/tring-i. Win. McEtvjm MtapuLgus. Funia Ivey, 
Milled ge&ilh. Win. Garrelt, Tucker's Cabin, Jesse 
Moore & John Hardie, Irujinton. Leonard Pratt, 
ll'lutcnitlc. Edward Jours, Decatur. A< Ilen- 
don, Shiio. A. G. Simmons, Hirkory Grove, 
Win. J< Pa.rkpr, Ghemiha. John Herington, Wel~ 
bom's M-//i. James P. Ellis, Pini-viWe. F, [Jao-- 
gard, Jithcnx. M. Barroii,Jo&fe«wi. A.M. Thompson, 
Fori Valla;,; O'.Ve;-!, Fuwlion. Joiin Apple- 
white, l'~ay>!u.i',on>\ 15, Prliouse, FrieiJdskip, Nam'l 

'■ \\ rllsams. F-ur /'lay. John vVayaeyOawPsi IL S. 

| }!airiri<-k,C'a)-,o/7//i«. David Sntiih,G»al Spring, A. 

' Spear, /''^/ &&, Miwaes Daniel, B-mci/, Mosbb 



H; Denman, Marietta. James Bush, Blakely, 
Asa Edwards, Houston, Richard Stephens, Sen'r. 
Tarversville, John Stroud, Kendall. James Scar- 
borough, Statesborcugh. Jelhro Oates, Mul- 
berry Grove. Robert R. Thompson, Sco/lsville. 
Owen Smith, Troupville. Kindred Braswel), 
Duncansville. Edmund S, Chambless, Stalling* 
Store. James w. Walker, Marlborough. Edmund 
Dumas, Johnstonville. David Rowel], Jr. Groo- 
versville. Joel Colley, Covington, Benjamin C 
Burns, Villa Ricca, David Jones, Traveller's Rest. 
W. B. Mullens, Rossvillei Willis S, Jarrell, 
Lumpkin. Thomas Everritt, Bristol. Isham 
Edwards, IVilna. 

Alabama.— I,. B. Moseley, Cahawba. A. Kea- 
ton, Belmont. Benjamin Lloyd, La Fayette. Wi 
w. Carlisle, Fredonia. Henry Dance, Daniel's 
Prairie. Wm. W. Walker, Liberty Hill. Dan'l 
Gafford, Greenville. Samuel Moore, Snow Hill. 
John G. Walker, Milton. H'y W illiams, Haiana. 
Jas. Daniel, Claiborne, Elias Daniel, ChurchHill. 
John Bonds, Clinton, David Johnston, Leighfon. 
Adam McCreary, Brooklyn. Josiah Jones. Jack- 
son. David Jacks, New Market. Sherrod w 
Harris, Vienna. John McQueen, Graves' 1 Ferry, 
William Talley, Mount Moriah, Graddy Her- 
ring., Clayton. G, w. Jeter, Pint Lala, Samuel 
Ci Johnson, Pliasant Grove. Wm.Crutcher,//u«/s- 
ville. \Am, Hi Cook and H'y Petty, Pickensville. 
Seaborn Hamrick. Plant ersville. James Si Mor- 
gan, Dayton. Wm. Hyde, Gainesville, Rufus 
Daniel, Jameston, Frederick Hines, Gaston, Z. 
Johns, Tiara*, Eli McDonald, Painsville. Wm- 
Powell, Youngsville. John Brown, Wacooea, Silas 
Monk, Horse Shoe Bend, R. Lackey, Scraper. 
James F. Watson, Abbeville, David Treadwell 
and R.w. Carlisle, Mount Hickory . Joseph H.Hol- 
loway, Wizlt Green. Jesse Lee, Farmers- 
ville. William. Grubbs, LouhvUle. Henry Ad- 
ams, Mount Willing. Joel Hi Chambless, Lowe- 
ville. Elliot Thomas, WiUiamstctn. F. Pickett, 
China Grove, James Grumbles, Benton. John 
M. Pearson, Dadeville. John D. Hoke, Jackson- 
ville, Elijah R. Berry, Cobb's Store. Willis 
Cox, Soukeehatchie. Hazael Littlefield, Ten Isl- 
ands. John w. Pellum, Franklin, Philip May, 
Belnwnt, A. D. Cooper, WiWiamston. John 
Harrell, Missouri. James K. Jacks, Eli-tori, 
Henry Hilliard, Bellville, John A. Miller and 
James Mays, Ockfuskee. Diirham Kelly, Alex- 
andria, Josiah M. Lauderdale, Athens, Wil- 
liam Thomas, Gainer's Store, John Bishop, Jr. 
Crocketlsville. lames Gray, Cuseta. Thomas L. 
Roberts, Monroeville. James Hildreth, Pleasant 
Plains: K.-M*. ArrYosy Midway, J. E. Albritton, 
Jenever, Joseph Hollo way, Activity: W. J. Sor- 
rel le, Jacksonville. 

Tennessee. — Michael Burkhalter, Cheehsvi/le, 
Aaron Compton, Somerville. Asa Newport, 
Meesville. James Manlden, Van Buren. Solo- 
mon Ruth, Wcstley. Wm. Croom, Jackson. Sion 
Bass,7%rce Forks, John w. Springer, -Sugar Creek. 
William Si Smith, Winchester. Thomas Hill, 
Seviervifle. William Spencer, Lynchburg, C.T. 
Echols, Mifflin. Aaron Tison, Medon. George 
Turner, W'averly. Abner Steed, Mulberry, Henry 
Randolph, Snodysville, Pleasant A. Witt, Cheek's 
><i Roods. Ji Cooper, Unionville. Michael Bran- 
«SB, Long Savannah. Jasi H. Holloway, Hazel 
Green, William McBee, Old Town Creek, Rob- 
ert Gregory, Camuth's X Roads. John Scallorn, 

Shady Grove, A. Burroughs, Moore's X Roadsi 
Samuel Haggard, Davis's Mills. Evan Davis, 
Grape Spring, 

M I ssissippi.— Worsham Mann, CWumSus. 'Wil- 
liam Huddleston, Thomas/on. Nathan Tims, 
Kosciusko. Jonathan D. Cain, Waterford. Na- 
than Morris, Lexington. Charles Hodges, 
Cotton Gin Port. Bejamin E. Morris, Wheel- 
ing. Simpson Parks, Lockhart's Store, MWk 
Prewett, Aberdeen, William Ringo, Hamilton. 
James M. Wilcox, Louisville. Edm'd Beeman 
and Thomas H, Dixon, Macon. John Erwiny 
Linkhome, Herbert D. Buekham, Pontotoc, Wil- 
liam Davis, Houston. Wm.H Warren, Dekalb. C.- 
Nichols, Stump Bridge. Wooten Hill, Cooksville, 
John Davidson, Carrollton. Thomas Mathews,- 
Black Hawk. Ai Botters, Fulton. J. R. Gold- 
ing^ Beltrfontaine, Gideon Woodruff, Waverley. 

Florida.— James Alderman, China Hill. Da- 
vid Callaway, Cherry Lake. John F. Hagan, Mon- 
ticrllo; Henry Davis, Milton, 

Louisiana. — Eli Headen, Marburyville. Thosi 
Paxton, Greensboro'. 

Missouri. — Joel Ferguson, Jackson 

Arkansas.— John Hart, Pine Wood. jtf. C, 
Bourland, Ozark. 

Illinois. — Richard M. Newport, Grand View, 
Thomas w. Martin, East Nelson. 

Indiana.— Isaac w. Denman, Gallatin, 

Ohio.— Joseph H. Flint, Trenton. John B\ 
Moses, Germanton, 

Kentucky. — Levi B. Hunt, Manchester. Wash- 
ington Watts, Co'-neliusville. Levi Lancaster, 
Canton. James Holloway, .Fnir Dealing, Dem- 
cey Burgess, Salem, 

Virginia. — Rudolph Rorer, Berger's Store. John 
Clark, Fredericksburg. Wm w. West, Dumfries. 
Vyillrirm Burns, Halifax C. H, Jesse Lankford, 
Bowers's, Elijah Hanshrough, Somerville. Wil- 
son Davenport, White House. Arthur w. Eanes, 
EdgehWl, James B. Collins, Burnt Chimneys. 

Pennsylvania. — Hezekiah West, South Hill. 
Joseph Hughes, Gum Tree. 

New York. — Gilbert Beebe, New Vernon 1 . 

Massachusetts. —James Osbourn, Woburrit 


Henry Avera, 


Wm. M. Amos, 


Benj. Lloyd, 


H. Barnes, 


David Johnson, 


B. Lawrence, 


David WiNon, 


Moses Jovner, 


Jona. Mickfe, 


Wooten Hill, 


Flazael Liulefieh 

!, 2 

David Tread well 

, 3 

Nathaniel Parks, 


Thomas Caffey, 



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VOL. G. 

SATURDAY, MAY 23, 18-11. 

No. 10. 

masaawtt^sprpre^jg^Tc^r^ias^ ■' r^^t^rr 


Huntsvil'c, Malison county, .-?,'.!. } 
S/pri/22!/(/,\b4l. <, 

Acts 14 c. 2.2 v. Cofifii 
of the disciples, and ex : 
fe.on! inue in the faith, anil 
throu'sb much tribuhuion 


Tl Ulg 


the souls 
them jto 

Wd must 
i n ! o the 

kingdom ul' Goi 




Daniel, 2 < 
these bios 

44 v. And 
, shaii the 

God of heaven set, up a kiogdona, which 

principle of promise* 1 conclude then, 
that the conformation! of the promise, rested 
upon the Faithfulness of God, and the min- 
istration of Jesus Christ was to fulfil every 
promise that God hail made in the Old Tes- 
amenjt. Then permit mo to sty, I hat if that 
king lorn :-. I Up '<■■;, the Saviour, is not now 
in existence, infidelity irr.w rejoice boldly, 
& s ) ■ , God is < lack c'oncei ning his promise. 
hen pe cni.1 me, rel hren, in the most 
peuf e< good feeling, no t:p ; r:; oijspfte, but 
;. sense of duty I owe God and man, toask^' 
is il not astonishingly strange, that any 
man with the Bible in ids hand, ever 
thought that asociety set up a few years 
shall never be destroyed, and the kingdom j a »o "was the church of Jesus Christ? 
shall not be .left to other people, but it j for the promise was, it shall not be left 
shall break in p ; eces, and consume all- Uo other jpeopfe. Trie law of God says, 
these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever, j honor thy lather and mother, that thy days 
Now we notice, that the prophet uses .may he long in the land which the Lord 
the word shall, five limes in this one text: j thy God giveth thee] 1 understand this 
I suppose to satisfy every body, that the j scripture in ; a literal sense. Jesus says, 
power cf God is engaged to fulfil it, cr ! call no man your father on earth,, for one 
confirm it. Now we notice what the pow- j fc your father, which is in heaven. I under- 
er of God is to do, or as the text reads, the stand this spiritually. I understand, a fa- 
God of heaven shall set up a kingdom. No j (her to be the aulhor,founder, or beginner, 
doubt this is the gospel church, set up in the j&c, 1 ask ih.em in the name of my Bible, 
daysofthe Caesars, and it shall stand for- j if any man ever did hear of a .Methodist 
ever, and shall never be destroyed; nobp- 1 church, until Wesley and Morgan founded 
dy else shall have it, it shall not be It ft to j the Methodist society in 1729? I ask, if 
other people, it is my own kingdom, and | any man e* er heard of a Cumberland Pr s- 
1 will gue it to whom it was prepared.; by lerian .church until M. Adow, E*ving 
andin its glorious triumphs, shad be a suf- and King, founded the Cumberland Pres- 
ficient consideration for much tribulation, ! byterian society,, in 1810. Then i ask, if 
(not a Utile,) that we may be aide Lo be^rd these are not their earthly fathers? and if 

up under an eternal weight of glory, lio- 
mans, 15 c. 8 v. 

Now 1 s.iy, that Jesus was a minister of 
the circumcision, for the truth of Cod to 
confirm the promises made unto the fathers. 
Now 1 suppose that every man knows, ihe 
way to confirm promises is to fulfil them; 
for no man can have action at law upon 

t.hej have earthly fathers, I ask, can they 
have h he; veidy father asasociet) ? Thus 
Mr. Bijek shows us, though 1 think a pedo- 
bap.tist himself, that every society in die 
world lias earthly fathers, but the poor 
old Baptist; and when he speaks about 
them he says, there were Baptists among 
•the YVuldemcs and Albigensids, but can't 



tell their origin, or where they came 
from. Mr. Jones says, it cannot be proven 
that the Baptists have had a regular succes- 
sion of ministers, from the days of the ap- 
ostles until now. Mossieum says, if I 
mistake not, they are buried in the depths 
pf antiquity. A men. 

This just suits Paul's expression, un- 
known S. yet well known-; known in God's 
account, tire New Testament, but unknown 
in the wisdom of this world. Thus tthirrk 
the poor old Baptist is separated & distinct, 
dwelling alone, not counted with other 
people. Fur these things 1 may meet 
the frowns of some of my brethren, 
particularly my Methodist and Presbyte- 
rian brethren, for I hope many of them 
are the saints of God; but i am glad to 
know, that m3' motive is to discharge my 
duty to God and man in this scripture, 
not shunning to declare the whole counsel 
of God. Thus if my views are right in 
the scripture?, and many dear saints are 
lead astray, may I not in the spirit of love 
try to show them the good and the right 
way, in my very poor& awkward manner. 
1 remarked that Abraham's circumcis- 
ion sealed to him what he already had, 
the righteousness of God by faith. I notice 
throughout the whole dispensation of sac- 
rifice and offering. God had some body 
prepared to catch the blood in a bason, that 
the people might be sanctified thro' their 
high-priest. How is it then, that Jesus 
Christ fulfilled that dispensation , when not 
one drop of his blood was saved, but ran 
down and perished in the dust? Brethren, 
is it to convict crur souls, that as Jesus died 
eighteen hundred years ago, and his blood 
alone can cleanse us from all sin, that if ever 
we do enter into rest, it must be by faith; by 
the failhof 'the Son of God, for no other faith 
can go to Mount Calvary, and cateh the 
blood of JesUs Christ in sanctifieation & re- 
demption. Surely it is the wonderful 
Ttvorit of God, for no man is born heir to it 
by flesh and blood, or the will of man. May 
all the saints, in every nation, '.oagite 
kindred and people, admire, love and adore, 
praise, and serve, magnify, honor and exalt 
the name of our God, for the riches of his 
mercy rir Christ Jesus our Lord. 

1 remain yours as ever, a very poor un- 
worthy beggar at a throne of grace, if 1 
know what I am. 


N. 13. The reason I say nothing about 
the earthly falheis of missionism, there are ' 
so many I cannot count them. //'. C. 

Thoviaston, Upson county, Ga 
Sept. 2 7///, 1340. 

Deak brethren Editors, ok the 
old apostolic faith and" ordeh! 
Grace be to you, and peace from God the 
Father and our Lord Jesus Christ. 

Awake, awake, put on thy strength, O 
Zion; put on thy beautiful garments, Je- 
rusalem :■■ shake thyself from the dust, for 
thus siith the Lord, ye have sold 
yourselves for nought, and ye shall be re- 
deemed without money; for as much as ye 
know that ye were not redeemed wiih 
corruptible things, as silver and gold, 
but with the precious blood of Christ. 
And we are told that he was without spot 
or blemish, and was foreordained of the 
Father, &c. The book tells us that he was 
made of a- woman, made under the law to 
redeem them that are under the law; and 
he grew and waxed strong in spirit, filled 
with wisdom, & the grace of God v\as upon- 
him, that he was able to withstand the en- 
emy of souls and conquered death, belt 
and the grave; and now is at the right 
hand of the Father, to grant repentance uir- 
to Israel. Though he were tempted forty 
days by the enemy of souls, and was show- 
ed all things, what do we hear him say; 
Get behind me, satan, for it is written, 
that we shall worship the Lord our God, 
and him only shaH we serve. As did Da- 
vid, when Saul armed him with his- armor;- 
but David said unto- Saul, I cannot go with 
these, for 1 have not prosed them. And 
David put them off him, and he took his 
staff in bis band, and chose him five smooth 
stones out of the brook, &c. Yea, though- 
I-wark through the valley of the shadow of 
death, I will fear no evil; for thou art with 
rne, th}- rod and thy staff they comfort me. 
Fear net, for 1 have redeemed thee, 1 have 
Called thee by thy name, thou art mine; 
when thou passes* through the waters, 1 
will be with thee. 

Yes, my brethren, he has promised 
to be with us in six troubles, and not to 
forsake us in seven, &c. We find that 
David went forth in ihc strength of the' 
Lord, against the Philistine, and slew 
him that he fell to the ground. The 
Lord diieeted the stone, that it smote 
him in the forehead, ho David prevailed 
over the Phiristine, with a sling and 
a stone. And when the Philistines 
saw their champion was dead, they fted, 
for they could not stand before the Lord's 
anoihleci in that day, nor neither ean they 
in this day, though they weic men of war 



from their youth. But the Lord shewed 
them that it was not by strength, nor 
bv power, hut by my spirit, saith the Lord. 
Now those five smooth stones, that David 
chose, I believe to represent the five 
books of Moses; as they were the only rules, 
or books, to govern them in that day into the 
way of the Lord. And the brook we un- 
derstand to mean a running stream, which 
must be a figure of the Lord Jesus Christ, 

As' my sheet is neirly full, I will come 
to a close, hoping that the Lord will direct 
all that do' write, to write the truth. And 
may they ever be enabled to contend earn- 
estly for the faith once delivered to the 
saints. So farewell, for the present. 

B. B. MANN. 


South Carolindy Spartanburg (list. > 
July 23M, 1S40. \ 

Deak brethren Editors: 1 have 
fiad the pleasure. of reading your valuable 
paper the Primitive Baptist, and it fills my 
soul with sympathy toward you, when 
I see that God has reserved to Himself 
gome who have not bowed the knee to ihe 
image of Baal. \ mean } - ou have not taken 
up wish the institutions of the day, and 
have not put your faith in money as being 
a means that God makes use of to convert 
the heathen. Well the missionaries say, 
that God makes use of men as a means to j 
fend the gospel to the heathen. So he 
does, but he does not make use of men to 
qualify those men to preach the gospel. , 
Hear what Paul says to the Corinthians. I 
Ih his first epistle, 2nd chapter, 12 and 13 
verses he says: Now we have received not| 
the spirit of the world,- but the spirit which 
is of God, that we might know the things' 
that are freely given to us of God; which 
things also we speak not in the words 
which man's wisdom teaeheih, but which 
the Holy Ghost teacheth, &c. 

The missionaries say, that they that, are 
highly educated can preach plainer to be 
understood than a man that has no learning. 
So he can, and' he is" belter calculated to 
paint off his discourse in high colore, and 
then he is called a great preacher; the peo- 
ple will call for him to supply a church 
twenty or thirty miles, he sends an ap- 
pointment that he will attend such a time 
and preaeh for them; one time he attends to 
his appointment and sees a large congrega- 

tion gathered to hear him, he gets up and 
lie pours out dictionary in whole volumes, 
and all the grand people, whether they un- 
derstand it or not, will say that it was the 
greatest sermon they ever heard. Then 
the common poor people will say so too, 
though they did not understand one sent- 
ence of his discourse, only just because they 
heard some grand person say so. Well, 
when his discourse is over, he tells them he' 
does not know how he can supply them, 
he lives a great way off and has a family to 
support; giving them a hint that he wants 
money, but he will supply them for one' 

Whenthej'ear is out, the man must be paid 
for his attending them. Some of the prou- 
dest of them will put in 10 & some 15 dol- 
lars, and some of ihe poor- class because the' 
rich have thrown in, think they must put 
in some 50 cents or a dollar, when their 
children scarcely have bread enough to 
subsist en; while the high learned preacher 
fares sumptuously every clay, on ihe hard 
earnings of the poor children; "Well, the 
preacher gets two or three hundred dollars 
made up to him at this place, and perhaps 
as much at two or three more places; this 
gives the preacher the big head, he thinks 
to himself what a great preacher I am,' 
they send for me so far and throw in scV 
much money. I reckon 1 am the greatest 
preacher in the world. He is not going, 
to preach about in the settlement among' 
his poor neighbors, no, money is what he 
is after and he will preach where he thinks 
he can got the most of that; so his preach- 
ing profiteth' the people nothing, because 
it is not attended with the hoiy spirit. 

1 have been a' member of the Baptist 
church' eleven years, and have heard many 
experiences, and I have never he:srd one of 
t'hem* date their conviction from hearing 
one of these high learned,' smooth ton'gued 
preachers yet; but from hearing of those 
that preached as Paul did, not with enti- 
cing words of man's wisdom,' but in demon- 
stration of the spirit. These are the preach-" 
ers that 1 want to hear. When the spirit 
of God appears to be in them, then it is like 
fire, it kindles from one breast to another, 
until all Christians present fee! it. Then 
they begin to pra}', that the word preach-' 
ed may have its desired effect, and that 
God would pour out of his spirit upon 
poor sinners. Then you will soon hear 
them cry out, what shall I do to be saved?, 
do pray fur me. That is the sort of learn- 
ing 1 want a preacher to- have, taught by 




Whitib House, Halifax county, Va. 7 
March 6 /A, 1841. )> 
Brethren EoiToitS: 1 have been silent 

the Holy Ghost; and these are the sort 
God will send to the Heathen:, whenever 
he does send any. 

I was at the TigT River Association 
last fall, where 'here was a large congrega- j 
tion, and the word preached appeared It* for some lime, in reading the communira- 
have i is desired effect. I began to think | tions from the brethren with delight; I 
that we were going to have a great meet- have cume now to answer my part, and 
ing, until Sunday wear 12 o'clock, when | show mine opinion. And first,, my opin- 
INlr. Spalding got up to preach what he] ion i.-, thai the writers in our paper, ore a 
called the chanty sermon. He said he] part of the chinch of Chris 1 ; and 1 believer! 
fel.t like fte wanted to preach Christ to the I thc-grpnnd w hieii ibey occupy., is hoi]/ 
people, but ^he brethren had appointed him I ground. One reason wbjy ! believe they 
ip preach another way; he said he belie v- 1 are a part,,pf the church of Chrisl i<, b- 
ed he would preach Christ say how, j cause they - g've God ih@ gloiry, and it a- 
and began, Thinks I, well done, you obey ; grees wifih his word] for he will not take 
the voice of God rather than nfan. I3ut| his glory and give to another] nor his 

praise 'o graven images. 

Brethreii, I sliall not attempt in everv to cite you to eliapTer and verse, as 
1 believe you are .Bible readers; neither 

he had' the money fever sfo hot, that he 

could not stand it ; so we began his charity 
Sermon, ag he failed it. If J had to give it 
its title, 1 should call it the beggar's peti- 
tion. When the discourse was over, there shall 1 attempt to confine m\ self to any 
went a man round with a hat for the peo- certain text of scripture, 1ml touch oYi 
pie to throw in money, and it raised a j many parts, as it is all given by inspiration 
great confusion amongst the people. 1 ' of God, and is profitable to the church ot* 
ihsqugnt this was enough to convince any Christ. One reason why 1 believe the 

person they were wrong. 

But, my brethren, Paul has told us, in 
his letter to the Romans, the 16th th. 17, 

ground they occupy is holy is, because 
there are so few upon it; u hich agrees with 
the word, for Christ said, straight is the 

IS verses, to mark them which cause di- gate, & narrow is the way, that leads to life? 
yisions and offences, contrary to the doc- and few I here be that find it. Vet G-od 
trine which ye have learned, and avoid I will. have his tithes or tenths, which is bis 
them; for they thai are such, serve not our ! elect or holy seed. For in it shall be a 
Lord Jesus Christ, but their own brdly, tenth, and it shall return and shall be eaten 
and by good words and fair speeches, deceive as a teil tree, as an oak whose substance is in 
the hearts of the simple'. Brethren, -pray them^when they east their lea' ■ es. So 
for them, not. as Christ, prayed for Peter. | 1 he holy seed shall be the substance there- 
He saith, Simon, Simon, behold salan huh of. I^a. 6 phap. lover. And the same 
desired to have you, that he may sift you ' prophet his said, the ransomed of the Lord 
as wheat; bull have prayed for thee, that snail return and come to Zion, &c. So 
thy fai'.h fail not. Now, breihren, pray ! you see there is. no -chance work, wj.lh God, 
that their faith may fail them; for they ; lot ; he works all thing* after the cojunsjel of 
put their faith in the traditions of men, ] his will. And 1 believe, that all out- 
laying aside the commandments of God. i troubles and afflictions were weighed in the 
But pray that they may turn from their scale pi' God'a eternal pui pose, and shall 
traditions and put their faith in a cruci- hwork together Tor good, to. them that love 
fied Redeemer, who is able and willing God. The troubles we are going lhruu«h 

to save all that will come to mm 

So I close by subscribing mys.t-lf, yours 
in bonds of love. Though you be strang- 
ers to me and live at a distance, 1 hope io 
meet you in that place of bliss, whore 
there will be no jars, seisms and divisions; 
but we will join in an everlasting sons 
of praise through an unbounded eternity. 
May God help us to meet there, is my 
prayer for Christ's sake. 


now, oh the account of the institutions of 
the day; for sure I am, that our good and 
his glory are inseparably connected togeth- 
er, he has the honor of all, and we trie 
profit of all. 

Den brethren, it seems there is a mys- 
tery of iniquity, a.s well as a mystery of 
godliness; and perhaps some of the effort 
people think, as Raul did before his con- 
version, that lliey ought to do many thing-.; 
and have not found, that it is contrary io 
the name of Jesus. Perhaps they have 



Rot found, that Christ is the end of the} my of all righteousness, thou chili! of the 

law for righteousness, to every one that 
belives. Paul speaks of a people, that had 
a zeal of God, but not according to knowl- 
edge. Christ speaks of a people, that 
compass sea and land to make one proselyte. 
Well, brethren, who ate they? Get the 
scriptures, and measure with the measur- 
ing; reed; for they ate yet in the world. 
For Solomon said, that which is done, is 
that which shall be done; and there is no 
fisw thing under the sun. Somebody i- 
fulfilling that scripture, and it will not up 
ply to the Oid School Baptists, for we are 
charged with laziness, and of preaching 
the people upon the stool of do nothin;>; 
Again, Paul speaks of some, that would 
.turn the grace of God into I'ascivioushess. 1 
But this will not apply to the Old School i 
Baptists, for they contend for grace from j 
ftrst to last. 

Brethren, I spoke a while ago, of a] 
mystery of imquiiy; and I remember Paul 
said, we are not ignorant of his devices; 
and I think that God's people, with the 
the teaching of God's spirit, and the meas- 
uring reed iri their hand, are not so igno- 
rantas some suppose. And if i must give 
my opinion, the devil lias changed his 
ground and mode of attack on the chute!) 

levil, wilt thou not eea^e to pervert the 
fight ways of the Lord — I think their 
great light would go out, & they be as blind 
as Elymus was, and would have to seek 
some other leader to show them the way 
to I5irma. I will now come to a close for 
the present, but I am not done with them 


Extract from Iks Minutes of- the Little 
River Baptist .Association, held with 
the. church at Fellowship in. h. John- 
ston county, N. C. on the I6lh, 17/A, 
and ISth of October, 1849. 

To the brethren and sisters of the chur? 

ches composing the Little River Rapr 

list Association. 

Dear Bketrhen: According to the 
usual custom, you no doubt are expecting 
an Epistle from us, more particular to your 
religious edification in these cold trying 
times, through which the Church of God is 
passing; & we know of none of more impor- 
tance than that treated of in first John, ch. 
3, v. 1 — "Behold what manner of love 

and now appears as an angel of li^ht, and the Father hath bestowed upon us, that 
thusdeceives them that dwell uponthe earth, j we should be called the sons of God*." — 
by the means of those miracles which he j Here, you will observe, the Holy Ghost, 
had power to do in the sight of men; and j through the Apostle addresses us with a 
is moving large numbers of the lest race note of attention. Behold — look at if — r 
down to destruction. consider it — compare it with all other 

Brethren, i have looked on at some of i love, and see how far it excels it in its ex- 
their big meetings, and observed the try- istence, it powers, its duration, and in its 

blessed effects upon sinners! First we 
will notice this Love — vshat it is. In a 
word, it is God. God is love — of course 
itscxisienee is from everlasting. "I have 
loved thee with au everlasting love." 
Then this love is to be understood as ex- 
isting before the world was, as the Saviour 
of sinners hath said: '-And thou lovest 
them as thou hast loved me, and thou lov- 
est me before the world was." So, dear 

ing to proselyte, until 1 concluded they a;e 
the enemies of the cross of Christ. And 
1 think 1 love them about as good as Paul 
did the coppersmith, so you may guess 
whether there is any fellowship or not. 
I heard one of the learned gentry say, 
that he had determined never to aid in the 
ordination of a man to the ministry with- 
out an education, and that ignorant minis- 
ters had been a curse to the Baptist church. 
And he would have hurt me no worse, if! brethren, you see you were loved of God 
he had said it was wrong in the aliwise ! before the world was; and as this love is 
Jesus to put Peter and John in the min- [everlasting, it will never change. — "I am 
istry, and that they were a curse; and that i the Lord— I change not," — No, not even 
he could do smarter than Jesus did, and ; when his children are children of wrath, as 
had determined not to follow his example, j others. "But Gpd commendeth his love 
I would have taken just the same at his towards us, in that while we were yet sin- 
hands. My opinion is, brethren, that if \ nets Christ died for us." But the objector 
oil God's preachers would fasten their eyes will sa}', How can God love us while in 
on all such men, with the same firmness our sins, as he cannot look upon sin with 
that Paul did when he said: Thou ene- the. le*st allowance? To this we an- 



ewer, in Christ and no where else — in 
Christ, yes, according as c 'he hath chosen 
in him hefore the foundation of the world," 
&c. "But God, who is rich in mercy for 
his great love wherewith he loved us, even 
when we were dead in sins,'' &c. 

Thus, brethren, you were loved in 
Christ — saved in Christ by the blood of 
the Everlasting Covenant; Christ as a 
lamb slain for you, considered in the cove- 
nant, ofpeace, which was between them 
both. In this covenant ail (he sin - : of 
Christ's purple were cancelled, or made 
Christ's, to whom justice turned its eve 
for satisfaction; to the Son of Gud, who 
has clone according to covenant under- 
standing; and through this channel love, 
mercy, truth, righteousness. &.c. can flow 
into the sinner's soul, and his train fill the 
Temple. Well may it. be said, brethren. 
"Behold what manner of love tiie Father 
hath bestowed on us!'' 0, brethren, it is 
a source of solid comfort to those that have 
eyes to see; when we further reflect, that 
the rich arrangement of wisdom was all 
done without any foreseen merit in us as 
the reason why. This manner of love fir 
surpasses any human reason; but we only 
have to say that before the children were 
yet born, neither having done good or evil. 
"Jacob have I loved, but Esau have 1 lift- 
ed." Thus we miy exclaim, "(), the 
depth of the wisdom and knowWign f; 
God," and power and nature of this love;! 
it is stronger than death, Brethren; fori 
jiear the Saviour: "And f lay down my 
life for the sheep" O, love, when we ■ 
look at the ploughcrs making long their j 
furrows in the dear fle«h of .icsus; when j 
we look to that dear head of his and see a 
platted crown of thorns piercing it; when 
we look to those dear hands of his, and 
view the mils rushed through, fastening 
to the tree of the cross; likewise his feet — 
do you hear 'hi* love say I faint, 1 can't 
go further? No. Von hoar it, after the 
resurrection. "Q, deal h, where is thy sling? 
P, grave, where is Ihy victory?" 

The Lord Je*us Christ is our love, and 
the Church is bis love. — Our love has a- 
risen and a«r>endr-d at the right hand of the 
Father, and is making intercession for us, 
according to the will of Cod. "I have 
(says Chris ) compared the--, 0, my love, 
j.p a company of horses in Pharoah's char- 
jot;" and says the Church; "As the lillies 
among thorns, so is my love among the 
daughters." Thus God's love is the 
Church, and the Churches Iovp is God — 

then, "behold what manner of love th« 
Father hath bestowed upon us!" 

This love differs from all other loves. 
First: because there is no first cause as- 
signed us further than I have loved thee 
with an everlasting love; but on the Church- 
es part, there is a cause-— we love God be- 
cause h a first loved us. A'.l other loves 
have a cause; Adam's love to Eve is be- 
rp.usc- she is hone of his hone; and God 
gave her him as a helpmaie; all loves that 
h:;vca first cause have a last end. But the 
love of God has no end; it is immaterial 
how dear a husband and wife may be to 
each other, it ends in death. But the love 
of God heslowed on us, is not so. There 
is much lucrative loye which may he turn- 
ed into hatred, aqd is as cruel as the grave; 
but God's love is different from this; whom 
he loves, he loves unto the end; and instead 
of its being removed for transgression, he 
chastises and yet loves; it is the love of God 
breaks the heart of stone; it is this love 
that draws the soul to him; his righteous- 
ness and people in loye, which presents 
holiness beautiful and desirable; which 
causes it to hungcrand thirst after it; it is 
this love in the morning of your deliver- 
ance that made you rejoice with joy inex- 
pressible and full of glory; it is this love of 
God that faith worked by, that made all 
things new; it was this love that made you 
love the brethren. We know that we 
have pissed from death unto life, because 
we love the brethren; and it was this love made you love poor sinners; and in 
fact it made Jesus Christ altogeiher lovely 
and the chiefest among ten thousands; it is 
this love that enables you to bear one anoth- 
er's burdens; and it is this love that draws 
us to keep God's commandments. The 
nature of it, is not to puff up; it thinkelb 
no evil, or intends no evil; but it loves your 
enemies; it bears long; indeed it is ihe ful- 
filling of the l.i w. Q, then what manner 
of love; there is none to he compared to it ; 
it can make a broken heart whole; the 
lame to up his bed and walk; yea, it 
being applied to a soul, can make a sick; 
body fijel well; yea, it can cause al{ the 
sorrows of a troubled breast to cease, and 
the soul in a state of sweet tranquility in 
a moment; it is this love that will abide 
forever, will never leave nor forsake. For 
I am persuaded that neither death, nop 
life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor 
powers, nor things present, nor things to 
come, nor height, nor depth, nor any oth- 
er creature, shall be able to separate lis 



from the love of God, which is in Chris' 4 
Jesus our Loid. This love (God) is in 
■you, and greater is he that is in you and 
for you thara he that is against you. So 
then, brethren, you are kept by the pow- 
ers of God; it is this love, brethren, that, 
opened the windows of Heaven and show- 
ed Stephen, Jesus at the right hand of God; 
and likewise you, when you come to die, 
-the power of it can welcome death, having 
*lhe pleasing prospects of life; just 
before, can cause you to lean your head on 
Jesus' breast, and breathe your life out 
sweetly there. it was this love that ena- 
bled the Saints of old to bear the fire, gib- 
bets, and death in variuus forms. We 
maysay, in conclusion, wilh the Queen 
ofSheba, "the half has not been told you." 
Suffice it to say, in the language of the 
text, "behold what manner of love the 
Father hath bestowed on us, that we should 
be called the sons of God." Yes, this 
love will live when death itself is dead; you 
will go into Heaven with it, and there to 
behold its glory, its beauty, and live in 
the sweet enjoyment of that rest that re- 
mains forthe people of God; there you 
will not only be called the sens of God, 
but be heirs of God, and joint heirs with 
Christ Jesus our Lord, for ever and ever; 
to hear no more the voice of your oppress- 
ors; and sorrow and sighing shall flee 
away; and sing in the sweet embrace, the 
new song, the song of Moses and the 


Monroe county, Georgia, ~> 
March 1th, 1S41. \ 

Beloved brethren in the Lord of 
life and glory: Peace be with thee, and 
peace be with thy souls, and peace be wilh 
thy house, and peace be with all thou hath. 

2ndly. I row will call your attention 
to the second feature brought to view in 
conversation, i.e. the great change wrought 
upon the man by the implantation of grace, 
or incorruptible seed, (as old Peter has it.) 
As this blessed change is wholly the ef- 
fects of grace, I will give you a text to 
the point. Thine ears shall hear a voice 
behind thee, saying, this is the way, walk 
ye in it. Isa. xxx. 21. The voice was 
heard behind, which argues conclusively, 
that him that, heard was going directly 
from him that spake. But the great 
change wrought by the implantation of 
grace in the manners, disposition, princi- 

ples, and behaviour, is what you \j'as to 
tell us about. Well the voice said, this is 
the way, walk ye in it. That voice was 
the holy spirit, Calling to the sinner; and 
that cali was an effectual call, the same as 
when our blessed Saviour said unto a cer- 
tain character, come and follow me. That 
was an effectual or special call, and such is 
the constraining influence of this special, 
effectual calling, th.'it it draws him that 
hears and and sweetly forces him to walk 
in the way. A text to the point: I drew 
them with cords of a man, with bands of 
love. Hos. xi. 4. 

Again:! have loved the wilh an ever- 
lasiinglove, therefore with loving kind- 
ness 1 have drawn thee. Jer. xxxi. 3. 

So there isa drawing in this call, a turn- 
ing right about, a change of manner, princi- 
ples, disposition, and behaviour; this 
change first discovers itself in his manners, 
he used to profane the name of the Lord 
without remorse of conscience, was a bad 
husband, an ill parent, a tyrant of a master, 
and a wretched citizen; in short, he was 
just as wicked as the devil wanted him to 
he. But graee has turned him right about, 
the change is wonderful, great to astonish- 
ment, He is now a lovely husband, a 
tender parent, a good master, and an up- 
right citizen. Indeed, grace has made a 
new man of him; old things are passed a- 
way, behold «!l things are new. His old 
manners are passed away, his old uncouth 
peevish disposition has passed away, his 
old behaviour, and legal or self-righteous 
principles arc passed away, and all thing* 
become new; his manners new, conduct 
new, behaviour new, and principles new. 
His wife sees it, she whispers to the old 
faithful servant, or to some intimate friend, 
saying, behold the change in Mr. — ; grace 
has made a new man of him; the children 
can see it, the servants see it, the neigh- 
bors see it, and the church sees it and feels 
it, and rejoices at it. Grace has wrought, 
a mighty change in all his deportment, the 
things that he once loved he now hates, he 
was once the servant of sin, but is now 
the servant of grace; was once blind, but 
now can see; he was once lame on both his 
uncles, like Mephiboseth, but now lie can 
leap as an hart; he was once dumb, but can 
now sing a newseng; he was onco under 
the curse of the law, but is now under 
grace; he is made free from sin, has his 
fruit unto holiness, the end everlasting 
life. Behold him enquiring for Zion, 
with his face thitherward, walking in the 



good old way. This man is a heaveu-rborn 
and heaven-bound soul, one lhat is hum- 
ble, teachable and mild, turned into a lit- 
tle child. 

Which hring' us up to the 7th and las! 
proposition.^ our text: ^.ccome n - little 
phildren, &c &c. J^ow, my brethren, a 
few remarks relative to becoming as 1 
children. Salvation by grace is a 1< vei- 
ling plan. Grace brii gs all with whom i 1 
has to do, down into the vail v of hum li- 
ly, and ic sc hes them 1 1 eir depend nca on 
an ^ independent God. Bein» thus! d and 
tang' it by tlic* spirit, he i -i-'.s to hi? mi '.. . 
and his eve Ins! to '■' e h )ly one of 
Israel. Yes, sir, he is as d* ; mds i on : 
for every thing, as the liuic ehild is on 
the mother for support, &c. As the little 
child loqks to the mother and desires the 
breast, so does this man of grace look to 
his maker and dcsire,th to suck of t! e 
breast of consolation; and aLthe little child 
cries for hunger, in like manner the c ild 
of God cries for the sincere milk of the 
word. When the mother leaves her little 
child with strangers, it weep"; even so, 
when God withdraws his presence from 
the soul of the heaven-born c ; ul '. : ■■•■■ 

withbiiter lamentation?; as the little child 
will laugh for joy at the return of (he 
mother, so will the child cf God leap f)r 
joy, wlv-n the iv:dy spirit returns to his 
\soul. As the mother's. breast is nourish- 
ing to the little child,.so is t!.." breastof con- 
solation comforting and rconri^hi ig to the 
child of God; and as the mother's miik 
causeth the little child to grow and thrive, 
so does the sincere gospei milk cai\£c tjie 
child of God to :.;row and thrive in the 
mysteries of godliness, and knowledge oi 
pur Lord Je<-w-, Ch , i.-t. 

Hut 1 must hasten to a e'e^e, hut I wish 
before 1 close, togiveyou a s! ocl hjslorv 
of the man of grace; underjjie idea of my 
being a way I tring m in, an ' falling in with 
bim occasion ally, whllT under, the teach- 
ings of the spirit ; or in oilier words, his 
travel from n at j re to grace. I win also 
give you the name whereby 5 shall call 
him, in my li.lie history. Ilia name is 
Ooesimus, and if any body is curious 
enough to want to Know -where I got the 
name from, 1 will iell them, by r- f ieuce 
to the4;h c. Coles 9 v. u'biqh will inform 
you that he is a f.ii hful servant, a i I 
beloved brqlher. And iq stop further 
enquiries concerning O.i- BsiiirU;^ I will re- 
mark to you' that he was a servant, (be- 
longed to Philemon the disciple,) and ran 

away from him; and afterwards was con* 
vetted by the preaching of Faul, while 
that eminent apostle was in bonds at Rome. 
And Paid, in an epistle written from 
R "o.j t.i IMiih n,i n and sent by the hand 
ofOnesimns, claimed him as a son. I be- 
se ph thePj (said Paul to Phil* mon,) for 
my son Onesimus, whom 1 hive begotten 
in my bonds, &c &e. But the history of 
Onesimm shall be the subject matter of 
another communirai ion. 



SATURDAY* MAY 23, 18tl. 

i-ou the rnmiTivE baptist. 

To He Friends and P/t£ro?iq of the Prtmi/ive, of the 
old order of Baptist! 8, 

\ for the second time send a few lines for publi- 
i rti in. I have Been a member of the Baptist 
ehurCh about forty years, and when I became ^ 
member, I l;new of no other Baptists but the Uni- 
ted Baptists, except a fevv free will, and ihpy had 
no union with us nor we with them. And when 
I met a Baptist, I thought him of our family; hut 
now when I meet. Baptists that I do not know, I 
d m't know whether to own them as Baptists or 
not; for some are Fullariles, and some are Cntnp- 
bellites, and a great, many of them are nothing 
more than tradesmen, every one r.f tliem looking 
tor gain from his quarter. And they will brother. 
any body who will give them money, and Judas 
like will turn any way for gain, and have caused 
more division among the Baptists than all the 
wolves that have ever ccme among llifca. And 
they will act all sorts of parts and plans to get 
money, and tell lies and claim to be Baptists and 
say they are of the old ordpr of Baptists, and say 
the Old School brethren have departed from the 
old path which they have trod for ageSi But they 
lie and tell not the truth, and are creeping into 
churches ana lidding conferences and receiving 
members without the leave of the church, and cau- 
sinir division and discord among brethren; and that 
is all the good they have done, as [ know of. But 
they are losing ground, and will come to nought 
when the people will not give them money. 
And I toll you. my brethren, have nothing to 
do with them; but keep them out of your church- 
es, aad their preachers out of your pulpits, for all 
their plans are only leathers of the pope's cap. 

i'ut do we lay all tlie blame of our coldness to 
thcai? Nu, veiily, my brethren, there is utterly a 
fault among us; we have got too much after things 
of the world, and our minds filled with its vani- 




And we bave become too negligent as res- j them eternal life, and tbry shall «mi perh-h. 

Brethren, forth < ver. remains*; it is more prrcmog 
than gfolH that perishetta Hop?; though a lowly 
grace is a lively one? a living one; H)VWj fliough'it 
metimes cold, and the first may be left, yrt 
ii ,t foist. 1 John, a. 9. Whosoever is b#ftl of 
I .. c;, id doth not commit sin. for hi's seed fotrfai'neJlh 

pects the order of God's hwisfl, and let too mac. 
disorder remain in the churches, & are top remiss 
in our duty, and have fnrgtoiMO watch and pray 
and humble ourselves before the Lord. And. we 
know when the saints in all ages of the world 
have, got, in such a state. they have ha 
chastised; and we may Iflnk out for some afflict* 
jno- scene, to humble us before the Lord, By way 
pf conclusion, I subscribe myself yours. &o. 



Elizabeth Oily, Pasquotank county, A'. 0. ? 
May 6, 18-11. 5 
Bear Brethren Editors: And all who love 
and know the, truth. Agajn I lake my pen to 
p-riie a few lines for the Primitive paper, on the 
perseverance of the saints in "race, God is tin- 
changeable. This is asserted by himself: I am 
the Lord, 1 change not. The wisdom of-Qod up 
pears in this doctrine. Where would be his wis- 
dom to appoint, men to salvation, and not save 

ihem atlast, The power of God i- concerned in j ,,,.,,.], mme ,t, r . r ;,. ( ,„ ,i, ;in a ,,y body cowkl invent 
this doctrine. Such as are elected according to i,,,, ,|. p fi,.^^ ^,-,,| p lf . j ; ., u the head of them. For 

such are, that is the missionaries, false apostles, 

deceitful workers, transforming themselves into 

■s of Christ. And no marvel, for saian 

n him; and lie cannot sin, because be is born of 
God. I would as soon believe that, the devil 
could get Christ, as to believe he e.ould get one of 
his elect. Romans, 8: 3 r ;: Tor I am persuaded, 
that ireither death, nor life, nornrgels 1 , nor pnnei- 
palitirs. nor powers, nor things present, n >r things 
ie come, nor height, nor depth, imr any other crea- 
ture, shall be able to separate us from the love of 
God, which is in Chris; Jesus. mir Lord. 

But, dear bretbrt p, there are hut a few of us in 
this country thai contend for this doctrine. But 
what does Paul say] Gallatians, I. 8: Though 
we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other, 
gospel unto you than that which we have preach- 
ed unto you, let him lie accursed. Brethren, 
when the hireling missionary comes around, you 
receive them not into your pulpits; for they will 

1he foreknowledge of God, and are regenerated by 
his graced are k-=pt by his power to salvtion. 
The mercy of God re from everlasting to eycrlnst- 

the ap 

ing. The justice of God makes the perseverance |,j mse |f j s transformed into an angel of light; 
pf the saints necessary. \\ here could lie his jus- jj ]pn r in , | t j s no g rent i|,i n «r, if his ministers also 
tice to punish those, for whose sins Christ has 
made satisfaction, and God himself has discharg- 
ed upon it? The perseverance of the saints may 
he concluded from the purposes and decrees of 

Isaiah, 14- 21: Tne Lord of hosts hflt.1i sworn, 
saying, surely as ! have thought so shall it come 
to pass; and as 1 'nave purposed, so shall it stain!. 
This truth may be fur'her confirmed from the a'-t, 
of Ged, the adoption of the children of God into 

he transformed. 2 Corinthians, 11. 13, 14. They 

are a pernicious encroachment on the rights of 
men, for which there is no authority in scripture, 

Brethren, ! would -as soon believe Judas was a 
minister of God, when a devil from the beginning, 
as to believe that a missionary hireling is a gospel 
minister 1 of Christ, For my lite i cannot see the 
difference between selling master for thirty pieces 
of silver, and, selling master's gospel for the high- 
est, price. When ihey speak great swelling words 
his family. Can a child of Goii become.n £.bilrl of • f v , in j i y ) they allure through the lusts of the 
the devil] I answer, no. Shall an heir of bea- flesh, through much wantonness, those that were 
ven be seen in the flames of hell, or shall ear of (,] r? , n escaped from then; v. ho live in error. 2 Pe- 
God's elect come short of he,, ven] I say, no < ' terj g, jg. 

Hear what Paul savs on this doctrine. Remans, I ^ s mv sheet is full I must come to a close by 
8. 1: There is therefore now no condemnation to saying, remember me when at a throne of grace, 
them which are in Christ Jesus. Matthew, ID. g G f, IR >we!l, until you bear from me again. 

14: Even so it is not the will of your Father I 
which is in heaven, that one of these little ones i 
should perish. Having loved bis own while in I 
the world, he loves them to the end — Jehu, 10. 1 ; 
— to the end of their lives and to all eternity, and j 
therefore they can never perish, They are mem- I 
hers of his body, they -,re his spouse and bride, 




eJoncV* OJcek, PdchLnd district, S. C, ? 

May 3, 1841, 5 

Beloved ep.ethrkn: This is the rirst time I 

they are his portion and the lot of his inheritance. ,lfive cver li( ' le(i in y ! >M t0 trouble you with a scrip, 
John, 10. 27. My sheep hear my voice, and I , not because I fee! worthy to address you, but be- 
know them, and they follow me, and I give unto ! ( " iluse ! am so "'ffbly pleased with your paper. 



he occupied the. pulpit. His text was in Philip- 
pians, third chap. 8th verse: 1 will give you his 
name, George Scott, a man well known in Rich- 
land. He would wash the saints' feet, for ho 
did believe it was the duty of Christians; and it is 
firmly my opinion. 1 hat Christians oug*ft to follow 
the example. Religion appears to be set at nought 
Yet for all this, satan j l>y some, but it is the Christian's food, that ipakea 
See how he tormented J him grow like the willow on the seashore. Yes, 
brethren, you that have come to the stature of a 
man, know something about it. 

I must come to a close. Bear brethren, if I 

have erred in sending you this, do bide my fault 

and not disclose it; if not, do a* yon please. 


Tlie icifenf William Hrggiitt, 

We have received a few packages and thev arc 
meat and drink with us; for We can feast 
on them, for they bring good news from distant 
lands, Yes, brethren, we love to bear Christians 
contending for their rights, for he that Christ 
makes free, shall be free indeed. Fear not, breth- 
ren, for ye are dead and your lives are bid with 
Christ in God. 
will torment you 

I wish all the missionaries would read toe xiii. ! 
chap, of Ezekiel, and see what is to become | 
of the lying prophets, J think they are. the hire- j 
ling, who careth not for the sheep. John, x. 13. 
I think they had better be upon the look out, ifj q o0( ] nioht. 
money calls yon, and man pays you, take care of | 
the wolf. The missionary is almost upon starv- 
ation, they have as many as two hearers at a 

Beloved brethren, stand to your post, and earn- 
estly contend for the faith once delivered to the 
saints. Some say, Paul was a missionary; if he 
Was, he says he was chargeable to no man: he 
Worked with his hands. Yes, hrediren, ye are 
not your own, for ye are bought with a priee; but 
it was not money. All power was in his hands, 
yet the money was taken out of the fish's mouth 
to pay his taxes. See Galatians, 2. 20. Paul 
says: I live by the faith of the Son of God, who 
Joved me and gave himself for me. Not money. 
Simon Magus tried to buy the gift of the Holy 
Ghost with money. The answer was, thy money 
perish with thee; for I perceive thou art in the gall 
of bitterness and in the bonds of iniquity. 

J think these would-be great men, that are going 


Decatur, D, kalb emmfy. Go. 

MaySlfi, 1S4 1 . 

Dear brethren in the Lord: I once 

more take my pen to inform you that [ 

am, through the great goodness of God, 

still in the land o( the living, and hope 

these line* will find you all well, and all 

earnestly con'ending (or the faith once 

delivered to the saints. For there are 

many iit this our day, who are making 

shipwreck of the faith of God's elect. I 

Tim I. 19, by setting up the traditions of 

men and doctrines of devils. 1 Tim. 4. 1, 

in the place of the true gospel, and thereby 

deceiving many ; and would, if it were 

possible deceive the elect of God. But 

thinks he to God, it is not possible, for 
.bout and living on the fat of the land, and begin ng I . , 

, „ . '.hey 

(.he poor for money, had better read Proverbs, 
where it says, he thattakcth from the poor to in- 
crease bis riches, it shall he taken from him and 
given to another. See 2 Samuel, 6. f>, 7. verse, 
when Czzah put forth his hand to the ark of God. 
and took hold of it for the oxen shook it, For his 
error God smote him, and then he died by the 

1 wish the missionaries would cite us to the 
scripture, that commands them to preach for mon- 
ey; but I think it will put them to their rout. Yes, 

y ate kept by the power of God through 

j faith, ready io nice! God in peace at the 

! great da^' of Judgment. And though they, 

the fa !se teachers, cannot destroy any of 

God's elect, yet they wort'} - , frighten and 

I drive many of the lambs of God into the 

i wilderness. And as our Saviour said in 

the tenth chapter of John, sca'ter the 


Oh, then, my preaching brethren, who 
are the under shepherds of our Lord Je- 
sus Christ, go ye into the wilderness after 

brethren, they have been riding over us rough t hem ; take with you the gospel light, for 
shod, but their horse has slipped his bridle and I . that frightens the wolves and they will run 
think they will be at their wits end to catch him 'from it. Blow the gospel trumpet, and 
again. I think they had better read the last chap- [ ihe wolves will still run further, for they 
ter of Hevelation and particularly the 18ih verse. 1 can't hear light, nor the sound of a trum- 
The preachers thirty years ago could preach with- j pet; but the Sheep glory in it, for they 
out being sent to the seminary. My father was a I know it is the light and voice of the good 
Baptist preacher seventeen years before his death, ; shepherd who gave his life for them, 
he never wentto a seminary, nor preached for his j And they will gather to it and glory in it. 
dollaraday; he has often been spoken of by onrold j Then, my dear preaching bielhren, it 
veterans, & his countenance remarked the last time lis your most solemn duty to feed them 



with that nourishing food prepared by our 
Lord in his word and no other, for any 
other will poison the sheep. 

Again, brethren, I wish to inform yon, 
that the preaching of the pine word of 
God, without any niix'ure of man's works 
to polish it, (as I do firmly believe,) has 
been applied by the spirit nrul power of 
God to the hearts of some of our bearers; 
both of the world and of the missionaries. 
and have made lliern see their error; and 
I hey have come to our churches and con- 
fessed their sins, and gained fellowship 
with us to our great joy, and we hope to 
the glory of God. Which causes mo to 
believe, that there are many more dear 
lambs of God yet in the wilderness, that 
have been by the oily and deceitful tongues 
of the missionaries, led away from iho 
good old way into the worst of errors, and 
that ignorantly, and therefore are to be 
pitied and must be sought for and brought 
back to the fold. 

And now, my dear preaching brethren, 
one and all, that have been called and qual- 
ified by the Lord to preach his word, you 
do know that it is your duty to hunt up the 
Jambs and sheep of God, and feed them 
according to the command of your Lord. 
For you ilo know them, and if you do 
them not, you shall be beaten with many 
stripes. The awful thought of and love 
that should glow in our hearts to God, be- 
cause he first loved us, should make 3011 
forsake all and go preach the .gospel. And 
may the Lord of his great goodness, by 
his holy spirit work in us both to will and 
do according to bis good pleasure, is my 
prayer for Christ's sake. Amen. 



Pichensville, Jllnhmnn^ ? 
'Jan. 12, 1S41. \ 

Dear Bisethuex: Through the Primi- 
tive I wish to say some few things on the 
subject and article faith, and its opposite, 
which is unbelief. My method wiil be to 
contrast the two, as 1 go along; as I think 
both words are much perverted from their 
true meaning, by religious jugglers. Now 
to the subject. 

Now faith is the substance of things ho- 
ped for, the evidence of things not seen; 
which word is used in the Hook of God 
well nigh two hundred times, and is al- 
ways described as emanating from God — 
juch as: By grace ye are saved through 

faith, that not of yourselves, but it is the 
gift of God. Those new light people dif- 
fer a litile in phrase* but none in sub- 
stance. One will tell ibe people, that it is 
jjjst as easy to take the New Testament 
■\\-\A read and it will produce faith on lb;? 
Lord Jesus Christ, as it is to believe the 
well attested achievements of Gen. George 
Washington. Another of the same strips 
will tell vou the Book of God, the pre- 
cious Bible, is the efficient means of salva- 
tion. A third will tell you — indeed ihcy 
will ail unite together in a camp or pro- 
tracted meeting, prepare their penitent 
seats and their consecrated altar and straw, 
and proclaim to the people: Come now, 
the ministers of the gospel are here, the 
Christians are here, and lastly, the Spirit of 
God is here; come, give up your hearts 
and, believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, ho- 
is as ready now (o save vou as he will ever 
be. What presumption! to bring Jehovah 
down !o our time, who ha« said to every 
purpose there is a time. Thus they will 
proclaim to the people, this meeting has 
protracted from day !o ilny, and is now a- 
bout to come to a close; ihe ministers are 
hero, and the Christians are here, and the 
spirit of God is he»e, all like a flood or 
fountain of water to be thrown on the mas- 
ter wheel of a machine. How easy now 
to embrace religion, unbelief is the damn* 
in«; sin, the time will soon come when the 
ministers will disperse, the Christians will 
disperse, and the spirit of God will he with- 
drawn and form hut. a sprcv; then gone, 
Corerer gone to be damned, because you 
will not believe. 

Come now to the subject proposed, faith 
and its opposite, which is unbelief. Un- 
belief is the old or strong man armed, that 
keeps his palace, and his goods are in 
peace, which is the world, the flesh, and 
the devil, with rdl their trumpery, which 
belongs to the corrupt and depraved nature 
of the human family. Which principle of 
the human heart, as the strong man armed, 
will bar the soul out of heaven, now, 
henceforth, and forever; unless and until 
a stronger than becomes, (which is grrce,) 
and takes from him his armor in which he 
trusts, and drives him off his throne and 
out of his palace, which is every faculty of 
the soul and the heart. For I understand 
the heart to be desperately wicked above 
all things, and we believe sovereign grace 
to be sironger than he; and when he 
comes, he takes possession of the heart. 
For I understand, with the heart man be? 

1 ffi 


lieveth, and with the month. jcon r e^»tn;i is !<oul cut of tj^jfeness light. Then, 
made unto salvation. THhs made alive j and not then, ran the fouI claim *alva- 
from the dead, and t litis fai'h is the gift of | lion through the media'or of the new cb- 
Qqd and a divine p-dnciple, planted in tin' j vena-'t by faith; and tlvn faith remains 
sou! by the finger of G 'id. puir abiding principled conph-d together 

Now does faith create its mvn oh) ri j with hone, which wiiLabide with this taber- 

and then act on it? This is Armenian fii-fn-, 
but not the laiih of the gospel, or the f.i:h 
of the Son of God. Faith in the soul i-> 
the white stone John sp-aks of, that 
has a new name written on ii lhal none btrl 
(hey that have it raj; read. Ii is said, we 
^r-e justified by f.dlh. Agreed, b'.t. we ape 
to consider jus' Hie .it ion in a threefold light-; 
(in Revelation) first, in the sight of God, 
lor Christ's righteousness we are freely 
justified from all thing*; second I v. b v faith 
in our own eye; thirdly, ne are to be j"s 
lifted b) 1 our works, or 

•■villi nope, vv.hich will 

nacle when wc lay it down. They tuo 

Wi!i (lee away being of no more use, and 

die soul swallowed up in a full fruition of 


isrevhren. in conclusion I siv to you, 
brother Lawrence wri#l on, and Brother 
Mtifieley hold no! bark ; What 1 say unto 
one 1 -av unio all, write in the Pri mhive, 
Fuiev.1!. IV M. II. COOK. 


n the sight 


of men. Salvation is of God, and is sure 

Jp all the seed: or. dees faith make ii sure: 

Is salvation true in Christ, or does it re, 

main for faith to make it true? We say ii j 

was true before, (these are the true s.u nigs ! place of 

East Nelson, SJielby cditnfy. Illinois. 
April 22nd. 1M1. 
Vetpf-ar brethren in the Lord: 
Through tiie goodn/'ss of a covenant God, 
II in the land of lire living and 
pf God,) or else faith ereatps its own object I As a«-ent of youi paper, duty requires 
and then embraces it. J dial i should make a remittance to you,. 

Brethren, not so. But ihq«e pedlars in j For, dear brethren, wc do net want to 
religion say that unbelief is the damning j give up the Primitive, while it contains 
sin. Was I to .Say that word, (should ex j the doe'rine of the gospel, and the soul- 
pi'ct some one lo say, who told you so? j cheering communications that occupy its 
Jflhe Book has said it, it has escaped my j columns from time to lime. Dear brethr 
notice. The apostle has told ni", that sin . ren. for ihe Lord's sake, and for the peace 
is a transgression of the law. Me did not j of Z-'on's sake, keep controversy among 

Say unbelief is a transgression of 
I remember what John las s:<id 
are -condemned already, because 
not believed on the name ol the only he- 
gotten Son of Go I. True gospel iruth, 
ahead) condemned, because the means, 
the only means, has not he< n applied that 
can raise I he soul- !i om under the sentence 
of God's most hjlv and righteous law. 
Repentance towards God and faith in the 
Lord Jesus Chri-t, are the requisite qualifi- 
cations for a believer. Trie same woo has 
said, y. u must be born again, the same 
language would apply in the one as in the 
other came; that is, condemned because 
you have not bepn barn again, Tiie crea- 
ture isjusl as able to Jo the one as the 
p'her, wiihout. divine aid. This is the 
workof Go 1 , that you believe. 

So 1 conclude, that by one man sin en- 
tered in the, world, and death by sin; so 
death, or unbelief, has passed on all men, 
for all men have sinned and are under 
death or unbelief; a^nd is the exhobod 
wrote on the family of Adam, until sover- 
eign grace creates, anew, and translates the 

ihe law. Old School Baptists* out of the Primitive. 

that ye j I subjoin the Article? of Faith of the 

ociation of Regular Baptists, in 

ordff to let the children at ihe South and 
East have something of an idea what kind 
of children we are in this far west; as there 
,:re the two kinds of children, them of the 
free woman, and them of the bond, the 
rVedesliuarian and the benevolent Armi- 


Here are the Articles of Faith. 

i 1st. We believe in one only living and 

■ iruo Hod, the Father, the Word or Son, 
and the Holy Ghost; and that these three 

: are one. 

2nd. We believe that the seiipturesof 
the Old and New Testament are of divine 

'origin and authority, an:l are the only 
infallible rule of faith and practice; and we 

i therefore agree, that the scriptures of di- 
vine truth are and shall be by us, consider- 
ed the only standard by which our faith 
and practice is or shall be tried, keeping 
in view ihe expressions of our understand- 
ings therein, as principles upon which we 
have agreed to unite. 

3rd. We believe in the fall of man, and 



that all Allan's posterity are shiners by 
fiauile, anil that they have laeithc'r will 
nor power to deliver tbfiiftselves Iroin 
their coniiemned and sinful s'ate, by any 
ability which die} 7 possess !iy t«»lure. 

4th. We believe in the dovtiine of elec- 
tion liv grilee, and th,at God hath chosen 
Ids people in Christ bef >re the foundation 

u! ! be holv 

Ol.h. We believe in the internal work of 
i be Holy Spirit, b >ih in experimental re- 
ligion and the call to and work of the 
mh-vs-tryfjand that ti is doty of the church 
of God to distinguish herself from 

(Vise see!-, 
in e'hris!. 


ii'jiiiicii in. i .^v. ji ii yj in ail 

to expressions! of her faith 

of i he worMj that tlvy s!n 
mid without blame before him in It'i-ve. ;fti ! 
that .1 i->iisj Christ was set dpfrom cvcrlast- 
ii £ as the bead of his body 'he Cnorcb, 
and that, in consequence of his union or 
relatior ship tlu-ieunto, as thi- head ol 
the bud}', his righteous ho , death, rtjswp- 
leetioii, aod a^ceii>ino, aie the nuans or 
the meritorious cati^e why ibe china-h is 
ever reconciled to God. 

5th. We believe that God's elect nre 
chosen in Christ, will in lime be effectual- 
ly called, regenerated. and learned of the 
Holy Spirit; and are justified before G-od 
by the imputed righteousness of God, 
which we receive by faith; and (hut they 
:ire kept by the power of God through 
faith unlo salvation, and cannot finally fall 

b'lh. We believe that good works in the 
act of obedience, are the fruits of the failh 
of God's elect, and follow after ihey are 
boiii of the spirit as the eff ct of grvee in 
the heart ; which their justiliea'hm is ex- 
ternally declared to the glory of Go, I, and 
form* one ol* the main basis ol the Christian 
union and fellowship, which cannot 
dispensed with. 

yih We hetiev.e thai the u'n'dn ami rela- 
tionship of the members in the church, or 
bod} ol Const is such, that each member 
should submit ibenvjelves to the church 
with a feeling interest therein; and th 

haijiism and the Lord's supper are ordinan- ' tion 

ces in the church ol God, to be administ- So fo 

ud her undi rsianding in tho 

word of G id, I ught her by the divine spi- 
r;'; :iiid 'ac will i iu-n. i' :i « have no Christian 
li dun nor fellowship with those who are 
deny iog these things. 

lO.h. We that the church or 
king lorn of God, set up in the world, is a 
-; j? 1 1 1 no i kingdom; that men in a slate of 
i. nine cannot see it, as to its spiritual ex- 
i.-ionee; it is the door or medium by 
or thro' winch the children of God, (the 
converted souk) Or Subjects of the Redeem- 
i i "s kingdom, may step into their Chris- 
tum duty and show forth the praise of h m 
whojiath called them oat of darkness into 
his marve.ous light; and that it is therefore 
the duty of the church to receive members 
by their relating their hope in Christ, as 
t heir expei imei.t d knowlcdgeof salvation 
by grace, wrought by that, divine spirit 
which the world cannot receive, by which 
the heart-felt union takes place with those 
who have -been made pai takers of the same 
i ike prcci u> faith. 

lltlv. We believe that the Lord's day, 
or' first day of the week, should b i spent in 
the publicor private worship of Gad; and 
onioat day we should rest from ail our 
be j tenj.poi'aj concerns, except in eases of neces- 
-. ty or no re •■; . 

I2ih. \\'e believe in the resurrection of 
tie dea I, bun ol (he just mu\ unjust, and 
of the gener.d juugmeu' ; and that the joys 
oft e righteous, will b« etern d, and the 
p ■inishmeul of the wicked of endless dura- 

ad minis 
ered to none but believers in Christ, and 
that to be leg illy immersed in water is the 
only gospel act of baptism. 

feth. We believe that none h ive a right 
to administer the gospel ordinances, but 
such ministers of the go-pel who have re- 
ceived the legal authority from the laws 
ol'Zion, by the laying on of the hands of 
the presbytery, who act under and by the 
authority of the gosp-l church; nn<.\ the 
church should hold the keys of govem.- 
ment in her own hands, and tiie ministry 
with which she is bles-ecl are to iie con- 
sideied her servants, as lights anil gifts 

which God has given her, subject to the 

government and discipline of the church. , head to the sole of the foot, the whole 

ewell, brethren. You can see 
wh re we stand, whether it is on the fence 
or ovi" among ibe goats. So I conclude 
b) signing my proper name. 

" Til'OALlS IV. MAttTlN. 


China Grovr, Montgomery co. Jlla. ) 
Juhj 24/ ft, 1840. S 

J J rue thrum Editous: i feel called upon 
to give an answer of the rea-on of the hope 
that is in me, wi h meekness and fear. I 
.v;is sh:«ne:i in iniquity, arid in sin did my 
mother conceive me. I was full of wounds 
and bruises and pulrifying sjres, from the 



head sick, the whole heart faint; being ali- 
enated from ihe commonwealth of Israel, 
and a stranger to the coveiimnt of promise; 
without hope and without God in tiie woi 1. 1 
captivated anil led by the devil at his will; 
being ignorant of Clod's righteousness and 
my own sinful heart, without will or pow 
er 10 extricate myself from that situation"; 
at enmity with God, dead in tresspasses ami 
in sin. 

While in this situ iiion, it pleased God 
{! hope) !o show me that 1 was a sinner 
against heaven, and in his sight* i thought 
if I did not reform my life, and break off 
from sinningagainst him. he would send 
me to hell. liut these impressions wore 
off, till 1 would be guilty of some large sin, 
as I often termed it to myself; and then 
these impressions would return more plain 
er and heavier than ever. And while my 
thoughts were exercised on death and judg- 
ment, 1 would have aivful sensations roll- 
rug across my mind. The punishment 
of the wicked and the length of eternity, 
which caused my heart to ache and trem- 
ble-, and I often dropped a tear: (the exer- 
cise of my mind \ would not intrust With 
my best friends, but kept it entirely to my- 
self. ) This again would wear off, and at 
times I would compare myself with other 
boys, (being 17 years of age,) some swear- 
ing, lighting, and many other crimes ! 
would behold in my comrades, I felt to say 
I was not guilty of. Often in healing a 
preacher point out immorality 1 could point 
with my finger, and say, you arc guilty 
of this, and you are guilty of that, and you 
Continue to he so; as for myself, I have le- 
formed, and do not allow myself the libcr- 
crty to commit such wickedness as you, 
and yon, pointing with ihe finger. Final- 
ly, 1 thought there were many wotsc sin- 
ners than I, being moral, sober, did not 
swear, speaking the tiuih, giving honor 
ami tribute to whom it was due. 1 fell 
to say, stand by, &c. And thanked God 
that I was not as other men, I prayed more, 
and walked mote upright than many that 
Were called Hapti'sis; so kept my book, my 
good deeds ahead of my bad ones. 1 often 
tho't how it would please my mother if site 
could knew how 1 had turned my coarse. 
and the peace of mind 1 felt, liut kept all 
to myself shining in my own eyes about 
three } ears. 

In the fall of 1S20, it pleased God to 
Cause his light again to shine into my 
benighted soul, and convince me indeed 
that I was a sinner against him; that mv 

heart was at enmity, there dwelt a root of 
bitterness within, from which all my actu- 
al transgressions flowed; my- whole life had 
been a scene of rebellion against God, my 
heart as a cajje of every unclean and hate- 
ful bird. Then I found the lust of the 
flesh, the lust of Ihe eye, and the pride 
of life, ail seated in my heart; nume- 
rous transgressions presented themselves 
to my mind, that 1 had forgotten. And 
the same light conveyed the purity of, not upholding sin with the least 
allowance, and the peifcct and sinless- 
ubedimce the law required; saying, cur- 
>ed is every one, that continueth not in 
all things wnteu in the book of the law to 
do them. I had failed in every point. 
Again, ye are already condemned, because' 
ye have not believed in the only begotten 
Son of God. The thoughts of foolish- 
ness is sin, and the soul that sinneth it shall 

Here I dropped my own righteousness,- 
and saw plain that 1 was condemned and 
that it wan just in God to execute his venge- 
ance on -me. My sins arose as a thick 
cloud. 1 was self condemned, & owned the 
sentence just. I read that Jesus came to save 
sinners, hut not such as I was. 1 had sat his 
councils at nought, grieved his spirit,- and 
had committed the unpardonable sin. 1 did 
feel thai 1 could not be reconciled to be ban- 
ished fiom the presence of God forever, 
and take up my abode with devils and 
damned spirits forever ant! ever. I did 
not believe that any was mercfied to heav- 
en,- but went on the strictest terms of jus* 

in this situation I remained for some 
weeks and the breathing of my soul was, 
Lord, have mercy on me, a wretch con- 
demned lo die. And in this actalone there 
appeared sin enough to condemn me. 
Hut ibis I resolved, that if I went to hell f 
would go praying though 1 heard it said', 
cut it down, why cumbereth it the ground? 
1 expected every hour to be the last, it 
seemed that my prayers did not go above 
my head, but the breathing of my soul F 
could not help 1 have never found lan- 
i guage to express the exercise of my mind, 
the tortures of my soul, under the con- 
| demnatory sentence of God's righteous 
law. iM y soul continued to cry, Lord, 
have mercy. Here 1 folded up my arms, 
stood and gized as I thought my last, 
and IVli that I had got to the end of my 
row. Here 1 got a glorious view, for God 
who commDndcd the light to shine 



Grit of rfarkne!»s, hnth shincil in our hearts, 
to give the light of the knowledge of the 
gloryof God in th&face of Jesus Christ. God 
revealed himself reconciled through' the 
death anil suffering of his Son. 

Down went my burthen of guilt and sin, 
and my soul shouted aloud within me* glory 
to God in the highest. Glory to Gud 
was ihe I heme, and every thing around 
me seemed to join in praise to God for dy- 
ing love and redeeming grace. The hive of 
God was !>hed abroad in in}' soul, 1 loved 
every bod)?, and every thing mound me; 
and i verily believed that 1 should see no 
more trouble, I should commil no more sin. 
hut always have I he presence of my Savi- 
our, and feast on his love. Now [ thought 
I could not exchange my hopi with anoth- 
er, for I verily believe fhat I had seen for 
myself &. not another. But this was not of 
lon^ last, for I was brought to believe that 
J was deceived; for when i would do good, 
evil was present and the things that I 
would do, 1 done not; the tilings that 
I would not do, I done. And I thought 
purely that if 1 had passed from death to life, 
1 should not feel thus. 

My sheet is nearly full, and on examina- 
tion of what 1 have written 1 find so much 
imperfection, ! hardly ran afford to lay it 
before my brethren; not one half touched 
:it. But you may hear from mc again. 
Tours in hope of etcrjjnj life. 
(to be cunluincd. ) 



Black Water, lumper county. Mi. > 
May 5th, 1541. \ 

Dear brethren Editors: Through 
the mercies of God I am-' pec mil ted to ad- 
dress you with a few lines, in order to re- 
quest you to continue to mc your valuable 
paper; as I have been reading it for '.he 
last twelve months, and can say il has af- 
forded me j;reat consolation, as il advo- 
cates the doctrine 1 heartily believe. And 
it has often made my heart rejoice within 
me, to hear the sentiments of so many 
valiant soldiers so earnestly contending for 
the faith once delivered to the saintsj and 
who have not bowed to the unscriptural 
inen-made institutions of the day. 

I will come to a close, by subscribing 
my self yours in the bonds of brotherly 
love and aff;ction. 




North Carolina. — J. Big-^s, Sen. Wil/iamston- 
W. M. G. Moore, Germantun. VV. w. MizeH, Ply- 
mouth. Charles Mason, Rnxhorn'. Benji Bynum. 
Speight's ft ridge. H. A vera, Aver'asboro . L H» 
Keneday, ChrJk Level. Burwell Temple, Raleigh. 
Oeo. w. MoNeely, Leaksville. With M. Vann, 
Long '"reek Urdge. Thomas Bagley, Smithfic\d. 
James fl.Sasser, Waynesboro' '. John Fruit, San- 
ay Cr.-tk. L. B. Dennett, Ik-ilhoille. Cor's 
Canaday, Craaensvil/c. William Welch, Abbott's 
Cruli J, Lamb, Camden C. H. A. B. Bains, 
Fr. Stanhope. C. T. Sawyer, PoWeWs Point. 
Isaac Tiilery, Laplanri, Thomas Miller, Eliza- 
beth City. Harris Wjlkerson, West Paint. Isaac 
Alderman, Moore's Creeki .Tames Miller, 'Wilton 
Park. David R. Canaday, French's Mills. L, P, 
Beardsley. Greenville. Isaac Meekins, Columbia, 
L. J. J.. Puckett, Richland, Win. M. Rushing, 
Whitens Slot e. Richard Rouse, Strabane, Wood- 
son Parish, Tudahoc, 

South Carolina. — lames Hemhree, Sen. An- 
derson C. If. Charles Carter, Cambridge. B, 
Lawrence, Effingham. James Burris, Sein Bold 
Spring. William S. Shaw, Bock Mills. Levi 
Lee, Blackoille Andrew Westmoreland, Cash- 
ville. R. Hamilton, Aiken. Marshal McGraw, 
Brown's. John Li Simpson, Cookham, J, Gi 
Bowers, Hickory Hill, Win<Nels-orr, Camden, Gi 
Mathews, Mount Willing. Jacob B. Higgins, 

Georgia.— William Moseley, Bear Creek. Al- 
ien (Cleveland, McDonongh, John McKenney,/V- 
syih. Anthony Holloway, Lagrange. P, M. Cal- 
lioun, Knbxpille. R. Reese, Fatonlon. Thomas 
Amis and David w. Patman, Lexington. Jona- 
than \ T eel, James Hoi lings worth and Stephea 
Casteflow, Macon. William D. Taylor, Union 
Hill. John w. Turner, Pleasant Hll. Joshua 1 
B.owdoin, A lairsville. .las. M.Rockmore, Upatoie.- 
P. H. Edwards, Georgetown. Win. Trice, Thom- 
as'on'. Ezra McCrary, Wurrtnian. Prior Lewis, 
Rodney. John Lassetier, Vernon. B.Paee, Van Wcri< 
L. Peacock, Cassville. V. D.Whalley, Barnesville. 
Ale:;. Garden and Thomas C, Trice, Mount Morne, 
EliasO. Hawthorn, Rainbridgt J. G. wintrin*- 
lram, Florence. Win, Mi Amos, Greenville, Ran- 
dolph Arnold, Latimer's S/o/-e. T. J. Bazemore,- 
Cliaton, Jo3.Stovall,.2'7u/lla. Jason Grier, Indian 
Springs. Wra. McWIvy, .Ittapulgus. Furnalvey, 
Mil/cdgeville. Wm. Garrett, Tucker's Cabin. Jesse 
Moore & John HarJie, Irwinton. Leonard Pratt, 
Whitesville. Edward Jones, Decatur. A. Hen- 
don, Shiio. A. G. Simmons-, Hickory Grovet 
Wm. J. Parker, Clienuba. John Herington, Wei. 
bom's Mills. James P. Ellis, PincviUe, F. Hag* 
gard, Athens. H. Barron Jackson, A.M.'I'hompson, 
Fort Valley. Daniel O f Neel, Fowlton. John Apple- 
white, Waynesboro'. B.PiRouse, Friendship, Saml 
Williams-, Fair /-'lay, John Wayne, Cam's* 11, S, 
HdiCnrick, Currollton. David Smith, Cool Spring, A, 
Spear, Flat Shoals, Moses Daniel, Bowery, Moses 
H. Detiaian, Marietta. James Bush, Blakeli/, 
Asa Edwards, Houston, Richard Stephens, Sen'r/ 
Tarversville, John Stroud, Kendall, James Scar- 
borough, Stctabon.ugh. Jethro Oates, Mat. 
lerrv Grove, FycIkm-1 R, Thompson, Scottsville. 



Owpd Smith, Tronpville. Kindred Braswell, 
Duncansvilte. Edmund S. Chamblesa'; Walling? 
Store. James w. Walker, a! wflw-ough. Edirsuird 
Dumas, Jok.nsfonviWe. David Ror'a .,•.', ,lr. 
tersviWe. .loci Golley., Co-ington, ijfiimri C 

Burns, Vi\\,< Il\:-.:, David Jones, 7Vi jb ■i^-.-V-- ,. . 
W, B. Mil-irons, Rwsvii, . v. illis S, .' n- I!, 

L'impliii. Thomas Everfi Bristol. {.-. 

Edwards, li'.ha. Joseph Daniel, ' v /*'*■ 

ALABAMA. L. B. M . ', '.<■'■ , '.-. A. K« - 

ton, Belmont. Benjamin LI ;• . VVi 

w. Carlisle* Fredoma. Henry Daiice, A>«; 
fffhirie. Wm. w. Walk* r, ■ '. I 

KitsciuskS, Jonathan D. Cain, Waferford. Na- 
VI irris, Z,c '-r/nn. Charles Hodges, 

Co/to/! (7;./ Port. 

Bejamin K. Morris, WftM. 

Gauord, Greenville. 

.i-iu ■: Moot e, ■ reoto . i 

John' G. Walker, Mil! an-. 1-VyWi 
.•fas. Daniel, Qt'ufbomie, F&fias Daniel, C/ui 
Joint Bonds-, Clinton, David John . 

Adam-McCreary, Brooklyn. Josian Joaes, Ja r - 
son. David Jacks, iVca; Market. Sherrod w 
Harris, Vienna. John VIcQitceri, Graven? Ferry, 
William Tal'iey, Mount Moriah, Graddy Hot- 
rinc,, Clayton. G. w, Jeter, Pint Lulu. SamueJ 
Oi Johnson-, Phasarft Grove. Wm.Cruteher,#im?l8- 
&7/e, V\irn Hi Cook and H'y Petty, Pickensvii/e, 

Seaborn Hamri'elc. Planlcrsville. 


tjan, Dayton. Win. Hyde, Gainesville, [turns 
Paniel, Jamcstop., Frederick Limes, Gaston, Z 
Johns, 7',:.7/y/. Eli MeDonaki, Pa'inseills. Wm- 
Powejl, yiwngso/I.le. John Brown, Wacooca, Silas 
Monk, //o/'i'e 6'Aos Ufa/, 11. Lackey, Scraper. 
James F. Watson., Jbbevite- David Trea'dwell 
and R.w. Carlisle, Mauip Hickory . .1 . is.oj>h iLjrful- 
loway, II (~le Green. Jesse Lee, Far.mys- 
ville. William Crubh?, LbidtviUe. Henry Ad- 
ams, jmt'p.unl Willing. J^oe.l IL Gharnbless, /•»-•- 
iv7/e. Elliot Thomas, iVJli.auis/on. F. i'ick-ii, 
China U-roie, James Grumbles, Benton-. 
M. Pearson, DadcviUe. John I). Hoke, Jucl: o ,- 
v'ille. Elijah P. Berry, Co/,/As .V/o;-«. Willis 
Cos;, SoukezHaiehie. Ha-zael LittlefieW, 7',? /,.'- 
tw«fc. John w. Pellnm, FranVMii, Philip Mpy, 
Belmont, A. i>- Cooper, fFVllf'ffni .'.';..'. John 

'»?. Simpson Parks, {.oclrkarfs Store, Mark 

Prevvet't, Aberdeen. William Riojro, UmniUon. 

Fame.; M. Wilcox, Louisville. Edm'd Beeman 

i Thomas !!, Dixon, M 'o>?. John Hrwin; 

■'..-. ' i Herb at !'). Buekhnm, Po/it'i'iic. Wil- 

. Wi.i.i: Warren, Delidb. C- 

i ■' Woolen Hill, CooVsviWc. 

id ''■■.■. Tho nas Mathews, 

'&. A, Brti ers, Fallo.i. J. !{. G ,i,l- 

i"?> .Gideon \'. i riruff, Waverky. 

Fi.o;.- -,a.— iaiaes Aldermaa, Q/tima tltll. l)a- 

- ■ ' • iy, C! .- -• A/',-. JhhnP; lia.ran, Mo.i- 

- ' !lo. Hem:y D ivis, Milton, 

Louisiana. — Eli Hsaden, yiarburyvliU, Thosi 
Paxton, Gfednsbo .■-'. 

:\Iissoi;i![. — J'aiel Ferguson,. /"/v.-kwrc 
Arkansas.— -John Hart, Pine Hood. M. C. 
Bonrland, Ozark. 

'lli.nois. — Richard M.Newport, Grand View, 
Thomas w, Martin, East Nchon. 

Indiana. — isax 1 iv, Denman. GaUafin, 
OFiio.—Joseph M. PHht, Trenton. John B. 
Mioses, German 'on, 
Kuntuokv. — Levi 0, Hunt, Manchester. Wash- 

inot.on W-,it!s Co r neliusv 

< '(/ it pi, 

cey I'uri 

Jaine.s Moilou-ay, F'att 

'SS, *hlt : 

Levi Lancaster, 



Harrell. Missouri. 
Henry Milliard, Be 

K. Jacks, iSfii?o;». 
///e. Jo'lill A. Miller ao.L 
Jaates May.-;, (MifasXiee, Durham Kelly, Jlfex- 
andria, Josiah M. Lauderdale, Alliens, Wil- 
liam Thomas, Gainer's Store, Joifn Bishop, Jr. 
Crockctlsvilie.. Limes Gray, Cuseta. Thomas L. 
Roberts, Miinro'eviUe. .laoies iiildreth, P/tasant 
Plains. E. M.Amos, Midway, J. E. Albritton, 
Jerrever. Joseph HolloVPay, Activity. W. J. Sor- 
relle, Jacksdiibille. 

Tennessee. — Michael Bnrkhalter, QhecJtstoWe, 
Aaron Co;iipton, Somervilte. Asa Newport, 
Mecsville. James MauMiat, Van Purer. iSolo- 
rn'ofi Ruth, W'ealicy. Wan. Croom, Jackson. Si'on 
Bass,7'/(/-ce Forks-, John w. Springer, SitgarCrcek. 
Wi'llram Si Smith, Winchester. Thomas llrll, 
Sevierville. William Spencer, Lynchburg, O.T. 
Echols, Mifflin'. Aaron Tis"on, Mcdon. ('. 
'l'urner, Waoerly. Abner Steed, Mulberry, Hfcnfy 
Randolph, Sncdysville, Pleasant A. Wjtt, <"'■ 
>i Piouds. J i Cooper, Unionville. .Michael iirau- 
osn, Lorn; Sdtiannfi.h. .las, !!, Holloway,7i 
Green. William McBee, Old. Town Creek, H.A,. 
ert Grejrory, Qarouth % s X Roads. J ihn Scallorn, 
Shady (Juive, A. BnTronghs, Moore's r<\ Roads, 
Samuel Hayfjard, DaviSs Mills. Even Lavi>, 
Grape Spring, 

MississiPi':. — Worsham Mann, Columbus. W i 1 - 
liam Huddieston, Thomaston. Nathan Tims, 

\'!::oiK!A. — Rudolph Rorer, Bergcr" 1 ?. Store. John 
Clark-, Frtdericksbuprg. IVm w. V\ est, Dumfries, 
William gyros, (Mifa.c C. //. .lesse L'a>Vkfo.rd; 
Bowers's, l.lijai: i laushrnunl,, SumerciWe. \\ [[- 
son Davenport, White Arthur \v. Eanes, 
Bjl^r /-fit, James B. Colliri!?, Burnt C/ufkneys. 

Pennsv[,y/>:.'ia. — Hezekiah '.Vest, South Hill. 
Joseph H.u<rhes,VGftiw 'Free. 

New Yor:K. — (iilhert Beebe, New Vernon. 

Massacir'.^et vs. —Jairi^s Osbourn, JVoburn, 


S:.W. MeDona!J,£4 
•l"-eph Daniel, 5 

[U'nry W. Gibbs, 1 
!i nj Stl'mon, 2 

Tkosf. VV. Martin, 6 

Levi Lee, 
IJiehatal Roa?e, 
.lames Sprewell, 
Wm ]). Taylor 
,!o!,n Hart, ' 



! Wm. Gray, Si 

Charles BlounL I 

| John U. Dai.u-1, 1 

i .[o§ Biggs, Sen'r, 'I 

| Li. i). Hart, 1 

Isaiah Paik.-r, 1 

Green W. piugb, 5 

Thomas Dixon, 3 

John Bomls, 5 

iVm. Si,-a (ham, 1 

P<jter Cit'r, 2 

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"Come out cf ?Btv, sng if eotsle." 

VOL. 6. 

SATURDAY, JUNE 12, 18-11. 

No. 11. 

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Preached by John Youmans, at the Ara- 
rat Baptist church, in Fairfield dis- 
trict, So. Ca. before a large congre 
gat ion; for the introduction of the 
Primitive Baptist Association, Octo- 
ber 24th, rf. D. IBAQ. 
St. John, 7 chap. 37 v. latter part. Je- 
sus stood and cried, saying, if any 
man thirst, let him come unto vie, and 

This Jesus that stood and cried, was the 
son of the virgin Mary, the son of God. 
God man. Emanuel* messenger of tiie 
new covenant, the mighty God, the ever- 
lasting Father, the prince of peace. The 
advocate, intercessor, redeemer, and salva- 
tion of his church. He cried with inviting 
voice saying, if any man thirst, let him 
come unto me and drink. The place where 
this was done, was at a feast of taberna- 
cles; uhere the Jews kept a'feasl for eight 
days. A holy convocation was observed 
in the first, and eighth days thereof. And 
on the last day thereof, the Priest ascend- 
ed a high place, and poured down water; 
(the figure of the purifying spirit) Jesus be- 
ing the object looked for, al that time. 
While the water was pouring, Jesus stood 
ami cried, if any man thirst, let him 
come unto me, and drink. If you drink 
of the waicr 1 give, you shall never thirst 
again. John, 4. 10 — 15. Jesus says, 
come to me; not, to any other man nor 
school, who have no water to spare. But 
come to me, I have a plenty and to spare. 
Jesus coming into this world to answer 

the great and glorious end 


1 o give 

ing sinners the water of life, that they 
might drink and live to God purified. 
Therefore, he earnestly cried in the gospel, 
come to me; 1 am the giver of that water: 
1 do not sell it, but freely give it to the 
thirsty, and none else. Them that can 
obtain it any where else, will not come to 
me. I am the way, truth and life; no man 
eometh to the Father, but by me. John, 
14. 6. No man can come to me, except 
the Father that sent me draw him. John, 
6. 44. Therefore, Jesus the only way* 
truth and life, stood imd cried, saying, if any 
' mSh thirst, let him come unto me, (the 
river of life, the fountain opened in the 
house of Judea,) and drink, and never die. 
I This word let, is not used amongst our late 
'school boys, they say you may go if you 
will, at any lime. But we do not believe 
: their doctrines, for they are many. One 
says, if I goto Jesus, I >hall by all wise, 
great and learned men of this world be des- 
I pised, and laughed at. But 1 will go to' 
school and learn the arts and sciences of 
men, then I shall be made weleome in soci- 
ety; and they will give me something to eat 
|and wear. Another says, it is time enough 
'yet, I have a dancing floor to attend. An- 
j other says, 1 have a gaming table to attend 
; to. Another, I have a race in hand. When 
jail ihese things are ended, and I get plen- 
' ty of money, 1 will go! For, there is such 
'a cry for money to convert tiie world, they 
I make nie think that Jesus would not accept 
jof me without a pocket full of money. But, 
I my dear hearers, thete are worse things to 
J hinder you than all these follies. For you 
love this world and all these vanities, 
more than you do this despised Jesus; 
therefore, you have no will to come to the 
crying Jesus. 

Now,, it will be good to give the char- 



acter of them Jesus cried to, (thirsty.) 
Man in his natural state does not thirst, 
or desire the tilings Jesus has to give; he, 
like Esau, has enough. Therefore, he 
must he made to know himself, vvliathe is 
by nature, \ before Jie will know Jesus. 
Man must he made to know his misery, 
and a self destroyed condition; hefore he 
desires any of the blessings Jesus hath to 
give. There must be an internal work of 
the spirit to make man know this. ' When 
the spirit strives with a man, he can resist 
it; hut whf n the spirit enters in a man to 
work this internal work, it brings the man 
or woman doi\n to yield to its divine in- 
fluence.! The Holy Ghost is come to re- 
prove the world of sin, of righteousness, 
and of judgment, (the world of the heart, 
Ecel S. 11.) VVhen this spirit enters in a 
man, its aim is to go to the inner man 
where the soul lies dead in™ sin and tres- 
passes, to make the soul alive to himself, 
.ind the Father. And when the spirit 
enters in the carnal mind, there is much 
opposition against it: there Mr. Pride 
meets the spirit in great resentment. But 
the spirit being the power of the Son and 
love of the Father, he forces pride, which 
is the devil himself, to give way. The 
next enemy is obstinacy. This Bunyan 
calis in the holy war, loth to sloop. But 
the spirit taketh him and flings him out: 
when this is done, there is the appearance 
of reformation., and humility in the man. 
The spirit going on conquering, and to 
conquer all before him, till he comes to the 
heart of this spiritual, celestial inner man. 
And when the spirit comes to the heart, 
there lies a great rock of unbelief; this is 
the sin the Lamb of God came to take away. 
John, 1. 29. The power of the spirit lakes 
jt away and casts it into the great deep. 
Micah, 7. 19. This opens the heart, like 
the vail of the temple, from the top to the 
bottom, and there lies the soul dead; the 
spirit says to the soul live. John, 6 63. 
The soul being quickened and made alive, 
the soul sees now its horrible, and dreadful 
situation, that sin has brought it to, and sees 
no way to escape; it is made to believe it- 
self the worst of all, and acknowledges its 
error, and lamentably cries for help and 
mercy, but none comes! The soul is 
in a court of justice where mercy 
never came. Justice stands sword in 
hand, waiting for the command, cut it 
down. The soul owns its doom just. For 
1 hive consented to every evil, and diso- 
bedience to all the commands of God. 

The soul is brought to a reconciliation witfl 
the God of justice. If he cuts me off, and 
appoints my portion in this gaping pit 
beneath my feet, I justly deserve it: if he 
saves me from it, it is an act of his free 
choice; therefore I cheerfully submit to 
his divine pleasure. In the midst of this 
woful case, the soul thought he heard a cry, 
come to me and drink; but the soul knew 
not where, nor who it was. The soul 
fain would go, but knew not where, nor 
whom to go! My tongue cleaveth to the 
roof of my mouth with thirst of relief. I 
am confined in the prison of justice: my 
feet fast in chains of inability, I cannot got 
0, that I had a friend to comfort me, or 
give me some relief. I cry, I promise 
never to do again as I have done, but all 
this does me no good! 1 am here grieved, 
and lament my folly, but it remains. The 
spirit moves to the soul to cry to Jesus, 
for none but him can do you any good. 
Acts, 4.12. 

As the spirit gave direction, so the soul 
cried to Jesus, and Jesus came. For the 
spirit knew where Jesus was, and Jesus 
knew what the spirii was doing. When 
Jesus came to the soul, the spirit made the 
soul know who he was. And Jesus stood 
and cried, if any man thirst, let him come 
unto me and drink. The soul then leap- 
ed for joy, hut said, I cannot come, for the 
law curses me, justice condemns me, truth 
saith the soul that sinneth shall surely die! 
Jesus then went to that soul, aud sayeth, 
be of'good cheer, your sins shall be forgiv- 
en. This gave the poor soul someencour. 
agement of hope, but it is not done yet, 
sin hangs heavy on that distressed soul! 
The soul seeing the majestic authority of 
Jesus, it is made to cry to him for relief. 
0, Jesus, thou canst save me, if thou wilt. 
The devil made me do all this evil, and 
will make me do worse, if you do not take 
me out of his cruel hands. When the soul 
is completely conquered, and gives all 
up for loss, and entirely dependent on this 
Jesus for its salvation; this spirii takes the 
love of the Father and sheds abroad in that 
heart. Rom. 5. 5. The spirit then takes 
the faith of Jesus and gives it to the souls 
Eph. 2. S, 9. Jesus then taketh posses- 
sion of that heart, and is in the soul, the 
hope of glory, and becomes the life of that 
soul. Colos. 1. 27. Jesus Christ drives 
out of that heart all the abominations of sin 
and the devil; and prepares it as a dwelling 
place lor himself and his Father. Grants 
.a free and a full pardon for all sins what- 



fever. Jesus (hen washes that sonl from 
all sin and guilt in his own blood. 1 John, 
1. 7. Rev. 1. 5. Ami recommends it into 
his Father's court, without spot or wrinkle 
Eph. 5. 26, 27. The Father adopts it in- 
to his family, and says; I will be a Father 
unto you, and you shall ha m}' sons and 
daughters. 2 Cor. 6. IS. Love unites 
them altogether, faith that works by love 
enables you to believe the truth, and you 
never could before. / 

Before this work was done in and for 
the sinner, he had inexpressible pain, and 
misery. Now, he is fdled with inexpressi- 
ble joy, and love. When the sinner ex- 
periences, and believes Jesus clone all this 
for his own joy and salvation; and finds 
Jesus a friend, the best of friends, and a 
friend that sticketh closer than a brother. 
Prov. 18. 24. When the man or woman 
was brought to feel and believe all this, 
and that it was the work of grace; it cut 
him down to ashes, and to lament his folly, 
for living all his lifetime in sin and rebel- 
lion against the best of friends; this godly 
sorrow leads him to evangelical repentance, 
never to be repented of. This 1 call a re 
pentance life. | I 

I have given a little of the character of 
them, that Jesus calls unto him to drink. 
Jesus goes to them. Eze. 16. 1 — 15. Next, 
how Jesus bids all opposers to let the sinner 
drink of the water of life, none giveth the 
Water of life but himself. t 

Jesus subdued this proud, obstinate, re- 
b(lliou°, and unbelieving will, and made a 
will to do the will of God. Before the 
rebel wanted God to do his will; but now 
he is willing to do God's will in all cases. 
Jesus takes these regenerate ones to him- 
self, and under his care, to lead them 
through the gates into his reign of grace. 
First, Jesus le^ds him to the gate of God's 
righteous law, when about to enter, the law 
objects; this sinner disobeyed all my law- 
ful commands, therefore 1 cursed him 
every way. Dent. 27. 14—26. And 
without a personal, continual, and perfect 
obedience, he shall not enter. Jesus says, 
you were very right, but I have done ail 
this for him; 1 honored, and magnified you 
in all points, whatever was required. 1 
done this for him, let him come; and all 
thy curses were lain on me at JVlounl Cal- 
vary, and I turned them into blessings, 
therefore let him come. The law takes 
him by the hand, and invites him and wel- 

Second, Jesus leads him to the gate of 

justice, and asks for entrance. Justice 
says, I am the basis of the law, and the law 
cursed him, and I will have his heart's 
blood before he passes my gate. True, says 
Jesus, 1 have honored the law and opened 
my bosom for you to plunge in your 
sword into my side, and you did 
so, and come out blood and water, the wa- 
ter proved it to be the heart's blood. I 
did do this for him, let him come in. Jus- 
tice takes him by the hand and leads him 
through the gate. 

Third, Jesus leads him to the gate of 
truth, and asked for admittance. Truth an- 
swered, the soul that sinrieth shall surely 
die. Truth, says Jesus, on Mount Calva- 
ry I did die; I died for him, therefore let 
him come. Then truth takelh them and 
leads (hem through the gate and welcome 
into the kingdom of grace. Jesus says, 
without me ye can do nothing. John, 15. 
5. The Christian believes it. 

I have got through the doctrine contain- 
ed in the text. 1 come .now to make a 
difference in the text. Jesus at that time 
stood and cried, he cries to this day; Jesus 
I cries in his gospel, he cries by his minis- 
i ters, by the many blessings he gives to the 
, children of men, by your conscience, by 
j his providence, by his threats of Judg- 
ments, and his continued mercy. Yet you 
pay no attention to his cry. He stood and 
cried for you to be cleansed and saved, but 
you say there is no danger. Then you 
disregard his cry, your ears are shut against 
his cries and invitations. 'I herefore, your* 
destruction cometh upon you as a mighty 
whirlwind, you will be overtaken in your 
follies, when and where all your expecta- 
tions will perish and you will be made to 
cry for wan*. Then Jesus will laugh at 
your calamity, and mock when your fear 
cometh; his ears will be turned from you, 
as you turn your ears from his cries. Je- 
sus cried when none pitied, and you will 
cry when there will be none to pity you. 
Prov. 1 24 — 32. 

So 1 conclude b\' commending you to the 
word of God, (Bible) praying God to bless 
you, and what hath been said agreeably 
to his will, for Christ's sake. Amen. 

Blackville, S. C. April 7th, 1S41. 


rfttapulgus, Decatur county, Ga. 

Oct. 25th, 1840. ^ 

Beloved bkethken Editors: I feel 

impressed to give some of my thoughts on 

Anninianism or tree will. 1 think it the 



duty of the Primitive Baptists, as long as 
they ?re in this tabernacle, to stir up (lie 
minds of each other by way of remem- 
brance, lest they he led away by the er- 
rors of the wicked; and so fall from their 
own steadfastness. If God of his infinite 
mercy keep us from Annhiianism, Aria- 
iiis'm, and Anlinomianism, I shall think 
we are Christians indeed. I rank the errors 
of Arminianism at the front, because the 
others are not so well masked. The Ar- 
minian is robbing us of the doctrine of 
sovereign grace, and lie is teaching us to 
resist the sovereign will of God, while lie 
endeavors to chasm our ears with free- 
agency. May God tuin their hearts to 
the truth, and keep our souls from turning 
lo their errors. 

The sovereignty of divine grace display- 
ed in the revelation of Christ to my soul, 
wa3 the first saving truth that ever God 
made known tome. 1 have since been more 
confirmed in it, because it was revealed to 
me, who never ex*pected it, and is with- 
held from thousands who are working, 
hard for it. These things led me to be- I 
lieve, that the race is not to the swifl, nor i 
the battle to the strong; but of God who' 
showeth mercy. This, and the other j 
connected doctrines, being revealed by j 
God himself to my soul, 1 think 1 am in 
duty bound toenfoice and defend, with 
gftcli abilities as-Gpd hasj or is pleased to 
furnish me with. To my own master i 
stand or fall. 

Arminianism at present sadly obscures 
the truth of God. Popery and' that sys- ! 
tern, will one day unite under one dis- 
played banner, and out of each host ihe e- 
lect of God will be called; and a light suffi- 
cient will he given them, to discover the 
enemies of i heir liberties, to which by a 
covenant of sovereign grace, (hey were 
predestinated. God's love, which in ev- 
ery ago has appeared discriminating, is' 
fixed upon all the human race, the Anui- I 
nianteil us, when I he Saviour declares ii to 
be sovereign; many are called, but few! 
chosen. Mat. 22d, 16 h. And the Sa- ! 
viour says, he chooses his people out of 
the world. John, 15th, 19ih. Free- will 
says, that Christ died for all men alike, 
when the scriptures declare thai God re- 
deemed his elect from amoi;:.; men. Rev. 
14th, 3, 4, 5. If God redeemed some 
J'mm among others, then those that the 
elect were redeemed from, were not re- 
deemed. Christ says, 1 lay down my life 
for the sheep. John, lOih, 15th. for as 


many as were ordained to eternal life b€ 
licved. Acts, 13th, 4«. 

Christ called them hirelings (do you not 
see them now, brethren,) and then told 
them that they were not of his .''beep; 
therefore* the gifi off faith was withheld 
(Void them. Saul was a man very fond of 
his own righteousness, being established 
before men. His royal self was so deli- 
cate, that he could feed on nothing but 
human applause; he could not make z 
meal of Christ revealed in every sacrifice 
which he saw offered; hut, though he could 
not sup on the fatted calf in the scripture, 
ye the could eat one dressed bv the witch of 
Endor. 1 Sam. 28th, 25 v. Free-will was 
partial in nature then, as well as now; it 
hates the poor old Piimitive Baptist, yet 
it fovea -hypocrites. Thrs appears rn Sau'F. 
lie will pursue the life of David, through 
all the thousand's of Judah; but if he finds 
the wilch of Endor, he swears by the Lord! 
God of hosts, not lo put her lo death. 
1 Sam. 2Slh, 10 v. Ambassado. s of peace 
are here called children of the devil, and 
because Christ said he did not pray for the 
world, nor die for the goats, and told 
some men that they were not of his sheep, 
we, adhering to this in the Bible, are called 
listeners to salan; and preaching these 
truths is called,, shouting foi the de\ ii. 

This wonderful chai ity is so tender a- 
bout the lull of man, that it cannot allow 
him lo be totally depraved, but insists 
upon k, that man has a power to' do good, 
tu come to Chi i»t, an I to improve that tal- 
ent that lie brought into the world with, 
him. Free- vvili says, that Christ's invita- 
tion for sinners to come lo him, implies 
that they have power to come, or else 
Christ mocks them with a fruitless call. 
Yes, they are called, come unto me, all je 
ends of the earth and be ye saved. And 
why do not all come? because they are 
of their 'fa bertha devil, and his will they 
will do; iliey are not called with thai spe- 
cialcaH as'Adjfn was, also Peter and all 
the apostles, and all my Old School breth- 
ren. Do you not recollect that special 
call? Yes lie calls them out of darkness 
into light, and se.s his mark Upon them 
and they follow him, and ihey are known 
of him. 1 icad tiiai he called Lazarus from 
the grave, who Wad been d -«d loui days. 
And 1 believe a sinner to be as dead in 
soul, as Lazafd* was in body. 1 know 
Christ tays no man can come unto me ex- 
i cpl the Fath t draw him. John, titk, 
4-i v., free vvili says he has a 



§30Wer, or he is mbcWed with n fruitless 
cull. Christ says, without me ye can do 
nothing. Eternal life is in Christ, but free- 
will won't accept it; ye will not come un- 
to me, that ye might have life. I know 
none makes fairer promises than freewill, 
nor performs worse. Son, go work to- 
day in my vineyard; that's enough far a 
£ree agent, he wants no promises nor help. 
I go, sir, said he. (tVIalth. 21st, 30 v.) 
But we are informed he went not. The 
whole work of pretended charity seems to 
be nothing else but reconciling Christ and 
satan, troth and error, saints and sinners to- 
gether. Rut the throne of iniquity shall 
have no fellowship with God, nor they who 
frame mischief by a law. Ps. 9 1th, 20 v. 
Surely the Saviour's family, or bride, which 
he received in eternity, and redeemed 
from among men, are not to be thus jum- 
bled together with deists, pagans and dev- 
ils. Hut all this is the noble effect of free- 
will, free-lhinking, and pretended love. 
They talk wonderfully about faith; but, 
finding they deny the doctrine of election, 
find fight against it, we readily conclude 
theirs is not the faith of God's elect. The 
faith of God's elect fights against, and over- 
comes the world; but Arminian faith fights 
for the world, and tries to. overcome the 
righteous. A heinous crime committed by 
fiee-will is her counterfeiting the gracesof 
God's spirit. Hut I suppose their labels 
are tied to the mouth cf the sack, in order 
to vend the tares the better. O wretched 
delusioni Brethren, fare ye well. I re- 
main yours in gospel bond-'. 

N. B. I see brother Wm. Moseley is about 
publishing the trial of Universal Charity. 
i subscribe for the book. Brethren, pat- 
ronise the work, its worth your attention. 

W. C. T. 

I contributing annually to its funds; thirty 
dollars paid at one time shall constitute a 
director for life — it should read thus; 
thirty dollars paid at one time shall con- 
stitute a member for life — one hundred 
dollars paid at one time shall constitute a 
director for life. 

So I shall conclude for the present by 
saying, that 1 believe the Old School side 
stands firm and is gaining ground; though 
there is not much done as to division a- 
mong churches. I suppose the time is not 
yet come for that to take place. So, breth- 
ren, may the Lord enable us to stand fast 
therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ 
hath made us free, and he not entangled a- 
gain with the yoke of bondage — by the 
new schemes of the day. Brethren, pray 
for me, a poor old afflicted sinner, that the 
Lord will grant mc a portion of his grace 
to bear me up under every trying scene of 
life. And may the grace of our Lord Je- 
sus Christ abide in us all, is the prayer of 
your unworthy brother, for his name's 
sake. LEVI LEE. 


Blackville, Barnwell Dist. S. C ) 
May 31st, 1841. } 
Dear Brethren Editors: I once 
more am perm-tied, through the goodness 
of a merciful God, to write you a few 
lines; which I should not do, as I do not 
wish to be in the way of abler pens, only 
as it is my duty as agent to send on some 
money. Also I beg leave to correct a mis- 
take in my last letter, which you may find 
in vol. 6, January 9th, 1S41, No. 1. 
which reads thus: Art. iii. Any person 
may become a member of this society, by 

TO EDITORS primitive baptist. 

Berger's Store, Pittsylvania co. Va. > 
May 101A, 1S40. <> 

Dear Bretrhen: I am yet here, and 
ijt is by the kind permission of God and 
according to his purpose, yea, according to 
his eternal purpose, that I am thus blessed. 
And as brother Chandler has given us a 
mess out of the missionary pot, I will give 
you a mess out of the Minutes of the Bap- 
tist General Association of Va. which was 
held at the first Baptist church, Richmond, 
Va. June, 1S39. 

This body might well be railed a mis- 
sionary pot — why? because they live from 
it, and it is full of mission food, so it is 
their pot. And what is their food? it is 
lies, and lies is what the missionaries live 
by. And I will show in time and place, 
that this Minute has lies in it. And one 
reason why I wish to show they do lie is, 
because they or their friends have said to 
me, that you say they tell lies and do not 
prove it But it is so plain that they do 
lie, and live by the same, that I need not 
bring one witness but what 1 can get out of 
their Minutes; and so you missionists have 
saved me the trouble of proving you, for 
your Minutes will prove it. And I think 
the old proverb has come to pass, that the 
devil has daggered himself. So I will pro- 
ceed to show how they have lied in their 



Minutes, ami say to my readers, that I 
know they have lierl, and if there is any 
missionary that will deny what I may say 
here ahout them, I say to him that I cm 
prove it to the satisfaction of any honest 

First, see Minutes, page the fourth. 
Here they say, the Pig River Association 
has but three ministers; which 1 know is 
a lie, for I belong to that Association and 
will say to you, my readers, this is a small 
Association of not more than 14 or 1 f> 
churches, and that this Association has 10 
ordained regular Baptist preachers, besides, 
Methodists; and 2 or 3 located missionary 
Baptist preachers, which I think are wor?e 
than none, for they are like a drunkard at a 
house raising, when he is drunk, and you 
know he is only in the way, so are those 
preachers. But nevertheless, God knows 
them that are his, and their foundation 
standeth sure. So you my readers cm 
see, that they have not told the truth. 

And again, they say, speaking of our 
Association, that opposition to the General 
Association is fast diminishing, and friends 
are increasing throughout this region; 
which is like telling two lies with one 
breath, for that of friends increasing to the 
General Association, is as near the truth 
as three is to ten and others, so both are 
wrong. And in proof of this, I will say 
to you, that there were nine brethren 
came to our Association from a missionary 
Association, to join us to get clear of the 
missionaries. Our Association was' the 
first gunday in May, begining the Friday 
before. And again, at our church meet- 
ing at Fairfield in February, we received 
five by letter, and they came some eighteen 
miles to get out of the missionary church 
or Association. And again, there are di- 
visions and sub divisions in their Associa- 
tions, until there are three sor<s of Bap- 
tists in this section, to "it: the missionary 
Baptist, and the anli-misjion or Old 
School, and the go betweeners. So I say 
unto my friends, that the red-boned mis- 
sionaries are not gaining friends here, as 
they make out they are; no, they are not, 
but it is by this craft they have their 
wealth. What craft? why lying, and there- 
fore we hear them crying out. great is the 
General Association — for from there they 
get their cash. But how does the General 
Association get this cash? why by sending 
out mi-sionaries to beg the honest laborer 
out of his earnings, and tell them that such 
a county or Slate is without preaching, 

and say they all will be lost if we don't 
send I hem money. Now, mv friends, 
don't believe them; for if I could believe 
that 1 could be the means of saving one 
soul from hell by giving my money, I 
should give liberally. But this idea of sav- 
ing sinners by giving your monev, is an 
abomination to God; for it is written, that 
you are not to be redeemed with corrupti- 
ble things such as silver and gold, but the 
precious blood of .les is Christ. And a- 
gain, it was said to Simon, thy money per- 
ish with you. So you can not get one 
sin pardoned for all the money you give to 
the missionists. But 1 could point out 
many lies that they have published in 
their Minutes, but I have not room here 
to tell half; but will say to them, that their 
Minutes, are just like the author of them, 
and that is, all wrong. 

Here, breihren, I will tell you and the 
missionaries how they do fool the people; 
they go and say, the Lord sent them to 
preach, when in truth the Lord had no 
hand in it; for they tell us, that sueh a com- 
mittee laid off or appointed each one his 
fit Id to labor in, then when they come a- 
mong us they tell us that the Lord called 
them to preach, and they must preach. 
But the Minutes say, such a committee 
did appoint to each missionary his field to 
labor in, and the committee does say what 
they must have for their preaching So it 
is of the comtniitee that they preach, and 
not of God. So, my friends and readers, 
when you hear them say their God sent 
i hem to preach, think of me, and 1 will 
say, there is a lie out, and the missionaries 
told it. Farin their Minutes they tell us, 
thai the committee appointed to each mis- 
sionary where he should go, and what he 
should have for going to do what they call 
preaching; and some get $30 p>:r month, 
some $33 per month, and some $600 
per year they say for preaching. 1 say, 
if they do preach, they do preach lies, 
and not the gospel of Chii.-t. But they 
tell us, that we are a highly favored people 
here, and that just over the mountains, or 
somewhere else, the people are starving 
for the gospel; and you highly favored 
people ought to give your money to send 
them preaching, and that one over thete 
or some, will beg the people for money in 
the same way, by telling the people that 
they are the highly favored of the Lord, 
but over in the Pig River district are not' 
any preachers, or none but three; you sure- 
ly ought to give your money to send them 



people the gospel. And so you see, they 1 Balak saw all that Israel had done to the 
beg money here, to pay a man to go some Amorites, and Moab was sore afraid of 
where else to beg for that one that is here; the people. And Balak was the king of 

and so this committee sent John S. Lee to 
the Pig River Association, and gave him 
$30 per month, to preach or tell the people 
lies about destitute sections; and say, like 
their Minutes do, but three preachers 
when there are ten. 

Here I will ask the people of this region, 
5f you will be so priest-ridden? 1 answer, 
no, no, we are a free people and have a 
right to get such a preacher as we want, 
and give him what we please and do not. 
want the General Association to send us 
any more of their $30 per month preachers 
here, to carry a lie to the General A«so 
cialion and say, we the Pig River district 
have but three ministers, when we are 
blessed with ten that do contend for the 
faith once delivered to the saints. Anil 
that is a faith that no red boned missionary 
ever had, for it is the faith of God's elect; 
that faith that sweetly works by love, not 
by money like your mission faith. 

I must stop, and sav to brothey Walker, 
that 1 have received his friendly letter, 
and I am glad that he did think enough of 
me to write to me and advise me; which 
1 hope my old brethren will all do, as I am 
a young Baptist, and am not an old man. 
So I shall always think it from love my 
old brethren have (or me, when they cor- 
rect me; but my views of scripture 1 get 

from no man, theiefore I cannot give 
them up, until I am convinced by scrip- 
ture. But do not understand me to mean, 

the M*oabites, and now to prevent them 
from taking the land, he sent for Balaam 
to curse them. But with ail his magic, 
and all his sacrifice from the tops of hills 
and the rocks, and looking down on Israel, 
he could not curse thorn but contrary to 
his will (1 believe) blessed them. Yet he 
advertises Balak how he might get a small 
advantage over Israel, but he never could 
subdue them; but enticing Israel to sin by 
disobeying their law, would give him some 
advantage. This was a literal circum- 
stance, and will be spiritually fulfilled in 
due season. 

And now for the means. Take your 
fairest daughters, dress them well, send 
them out, let them pass bf fore Israel; they 
being enamoured with their beau!)' and 
dress, broke their restriction; for God 
had forbid them marrying strange wo- 

Now, brethren, they were not all spiri- 
tual Israel that were of the national Israel; 
and those sons of belial thai, were among 
them, took those women among them, 
and directly they were found at Baal Peor, 
worshipping the gods of the nations. This 
seems to be the case with the Baptists in 
thissection. Some years since, there was 
a revival of religion in this section, and 
the Baptists threw open their doors very 
wide, lost their discipline, and almost good 
order, received all that offered, and with 
mighty little experience and no grace be- 

that I did not approve of your letter; but | came numerous. Then here comes Balaam 
I will say, you should not put Rev. to my | from the east, blows a gale from the west, 
name, for 1 never did try to preach when i and such a tornado never has been seen in 
1 was awake, nor never will if I can get i my day. But God had some children in 
on without it. So my brethren may j this country, that could not be moved with 

know, that I am a poor stumbling Baptist. 
As ever your friend and brother in Jesus. 


Tennessee, Me Minn county, ~) 
rfpril 20th, 1841. S 

Dear and well beloved Brethren: 
When I think of writing a piece for your 
columns, I fear it will only be in the way 
of better counsel; but having to write for 
one new subscriber, I will give some ac- 
count of the Primitive Baptists in this 

Time past put me in mind of Israel in 
the wilderness coming near to Moab, and 

all the storm; but we separated in 1S37, 
and they, the New School folks, have by 
their protracted meetings a numerous set of 
long eared children. And some of them 
are proposing to put away the daughters of 
Moab, and come to the church by com- 
promise, if the church would give them 
one half the number of delegates, and leave 
out the minister, and exclude all that won't 
agree to the terms. 

Brethren, the devil never inverted a 
more complete dead fall to kill the church, 
than this. If he could get it to effect this 
unscriptural terms of restoring excluded 
members, and to bring all their illegiti- 
mate children into the church by com- 
promise, it would destroy the union worse 



than it now is. Hut I am not afraid he 
will, for he can't deceive the elect. 

Brethren, the Arminian spirit is the 
worst spirit, anrl haebred more confusion, 
and has brought more new forms of wor- 
ship, than any I know of. It once made a 
calf, it made two golden heifer.", it made 
-A hab's prophets, it made the convention, 
and all its train. It has proposed a com- 
promise with truth and error, and I don't 
know what it would not" do, if it had the 

And now, brethren, when God convicts 
those people and they repent, let them 
come to the church, who Ins the power to 
restore. If they can satisfy the church, 
J say amen; this is all the way i know of. 
agreeably to scripture, and all the way I 

Brethren, I am well pleased with the 
writings in the Primitive. Some write. 
as it is termed, hard things; well, we want 
some to use the haltering ram. I would 
say, well done, brethren Tiilery and Ro- 
rer, and all the brethren who use those 
weapons of war. I must now come to a 
close, as it is time to go to rest. 



SATURDAY, JUNE 12, 1841. 


Reply in Isaac. Tiilery, in vol. G, 2Vbi 8. 

Dearly beloved Editoss of the Primitive: 
Suffer me in our valuable paper to write my old 
brother Isaac: and yourselves a public lelteri For 
the design of our paper in the first instance was, 
to defend ourselves against the aspersions and 
calumnies of a gang of money hunters, who as the 
old brother says, will he found in a bad place. 
I say so, if I am not much deceived, both from 
Scripture history and experience.. 

My dear old brother Isaac Tiilery, old Lawrence 
is not dead yet; ki^ovc loycu for your candid way 
of writing, for if y li shoot a must 
shoot him with silver or bank notes, and then you 
will find him as hollow as a horn. It will stick', 
but not go through, for they carry d^ep pockets as 
a certain woman had hers marie in tioies gone by, 
to steel corn out of her neighbor's field to hold a 
half bushel; for a missionary's pocket never 
says enough. 

The devil, the world, flesh, and missionaries, 
have tried to put down our candid writings hi de- 
fence of the church ofO'od; hut I ask you, who 
js the devil, but Christ's (\ȣ to drive die sheep j 

together? who is the world, but sinners that know 
not what they do, who are to be pitied by us and 
prayed for? what is the flesh, but. a cursed mass 
of sinful corruption, that teases us from day 
to day, so that we (the inner man,) cannot 
do the things we would. Who are the missionaries 
and money hunters of all the societies of the day, 
that have destroyed the peace and union of the 
Rapiist churches throughout the States, but a band 
of fortune hunters and purse plunderers'? This 
I well know, and, Isaac. I don't value every mis- 
sionary between sky and earth in defence of scrip- 
ture truth. 

I am here in Corn Neck when wanted. I say, 
gird your sword on your thigh, because of fear in 
this night time of thp church of Godi For I tell 
you, if you wield it well and as you have done, it 
will cut joints, marrow, heart and thoughts. 
Don't be discouraged, for God is on our side and 
will fight our battles for us; for if nothing else 
will do, he will send hail stones and hot thunder- 
holts to discomfit our enemies, that he may fulfil 
his promises to bis elect. Israeli You hear the 
work cf division is going on, and it will go on 
whether you lend your aid or not; or else. God has 
not begun this work by me, to call Israel from 
among the Egyptians. 

Now, brother Tiilery, you are half right and 
half wrong in calling me the father of the Primi- 
tive. I feel free to own, that my dear and belov- 
ed William Moseley of Georgia, whom I should 
be glad to see, and myself, are the rightful and the 
original fathers of this publication; and that Mark 
Bennett and George Howard are worthy of much 
praise, for nursing the children. 

One thing more. You say, my old brother 
Tiilery, you should like to know whether Mark 
Bennett wis ever given to intoxication or not. I 
tell you, my old brother, that I have been ac- 
quainted with Mark Bennett for about twenty 
years. I have been at his father's when he was a 
goslin hoy, and knew his mother, sisters and bro- 
thers; and bis fa'her and I were cotemporary in 
our ministry, until the cursed mission plan broke 
our union, peace, and good feeling, which that 
abominable plan of money hunting has done in all 
the States. Mark Bennett, afier he had acquired 
his education, came within five miles of my house 
to teach school, and has many times sat under my 
ministry, The. first time that I ever heard him 
preach, 1 said in my own bosom, well, young 
man, I can lay my hands on you as a minister 
seat of God; and I assisted in his ordination. I 
n fi r you to my writings, titled Tom Thumb tng- 
cing with the wolves for the sheepskin, as proof 
how I kncwi Mark Bennett, as has come to my 
knowledge, has never been guilty of drunkenness; 
and if this accusation was started by a missions,- 


ty, you may tell him from under my own hand he 
is a downright 1 iar. Jfynu, brother Tillery, have 
suspected him from the fine description he has 
given of intoxication, you fire mistaken. I tell 
ynu, Mark Bennett is a man of learning and read- 
ing, and of a cool head and sound in the faith; and 
as to his views of correctness of the plan of the 
gospel, stands second to no man in the United 
States, if I am a judge. If you have felt the pow- 
er of his remarks on intoxication, which hy expe- 
rience you know, I would say as Paul said: Let 
him that stole, steal no more — not douhting but 
God would forgive the penitent, on his confessing 
and forsaking his crime. 

I now would caution all the Old School chur- 
ches throughout the States rtot to admit a mis- 
sionary into their pulpits. This was my opinion 
when I wrote the declaration to the churches. I 
then saw its evil tendency, and have seen it all 
along; but of late it is verified to a demonstration, 
that churches had better not, For of late some of 
the churches of the Kehukee Association have 
suffered it, and it never fails to breed confusion 
more or less in every instance, (COME OUT 
OF HER, MY PEOPLE, he separate) 

My advice to the churches further is, not to go 
to hear them, nor give them money, and they will 
<lie in your neighborhoods like the frogs of Egypt, 
for money is the life's blood of frogdandy preach- 
ers. But if hungry, feed them; if thirsty, give 
them drink; if naked, clothe them; for they are 
the enemies of the Old School Baptists. 

As to what you are pleased to call some men, 
fence straddlers, they put me in mind of the refu- 
gees in the Revolution; they were neither whig 
nor tory, friends to the British and friends to the 
Americans, and then plundered both sides of all 
they could get, by being spies for both sides. I 
tell the churches, these are the meanest men 
among the whole missionary aang; for they nei- 
ther serve God nor devil, ehvreh nor State, but 
their own ends for gain. Of such beware, as de- 
ceivers and take in c ; for these kind of people's 
god is their gain out of both sides. 

And further, brother Tillery, I tell you I am in 
my 63rd year, and have read both books and men 
for forty years, and I tell you, when I find a man 
of a honey and pancake month, beware of that man, 
he is no account for church or State, but a take in. 
And when you find a man ( f religious profession, 
that can brother any body and every bod)' that pro- 
fesses religion, he is a hypocrite and of no ac- 
count but to deceive the heart of the simple for 
gain and applause. And I tell you further, that 
in all cases where any church is part Old School 
Baptists and part missionaries, the sooner they di- 
vide the better; for not in one instance as I know 
of, but on division the Old School have had peace 


and union. Read the Primitive, as proof of this 
fact. For I tell you, that missionary Baptists arc 
a bad breed, and won't do to cross with; if you 
do, look out for mongrels in the churches. 

And of this no man can doubt, that the Baptist 
churches throughout the States were in union and 
peace, before the introduction of missions into the 
Associations. Since that, time all has been divi- 
sion, discord, strife and jangling, and confusion in 
Associations and churches. This you know to be 
the truth. And however some churches of the 
mission order may bolster up themselves, that 
they are all in peace and union, I tell you mission- 
ary churches it won't last long; for missions is of 
the devil, and God's people and the devil's profes- 
sors will fall out, and there is no help for it. For 
God's people are the same in every age, and are 
taught by the same spirit of God to know the 
truths of God; and the holy fire of divine grace 
will make them contend for it 

1 tell you, brother Tillery, whenever I am want- 
ing, call me forth, I am in the battery; shoot you 
cannon balls, and not grape shot. I wish brother 
Mosele}' with his cannon would come to my assist- 
ance, and all the writers for the Primitive to con- 
tinue, and all others that may feel a disposition to 
write. We don't say so in respect of want of mat- 
ter for publication in the Primitive, we have always 
had a plenty on hand and have never been under 
the necessity of ransacking old mouldy files to fill 
up our paper. Yours in tribulation in defence of 
the truth of Jesus Christ and his church, 



Jliken, BurniceJl district, So Ca. 
M<:y 24th, 1S41. 
Dear e^ethren Editoks: 1 for the 
first time write you a few lines, to let you 
know how times are here. We are sur- 
rounded with the Ashdodsand Ishmaelitea 
on every side. One of them, on 23rd in- 
stant, came with his party, ascended our 
pulpit without prudence or manners, used 
our books, preached hissermon, in which 
he charged me, with the church, of reject- 
ing the gospel; then went down from the 
pulpit, siMig up his patty, tried to pray for 
a few that came forward; and, at the close 
of which I asked an aged brother to make 
some closing remarks, to wit, William B. 
Viliard. While those remarks in truth 
and candor were making, this preacher 
and his party became so much offended, 
that he rose up, published two appoint- 
ments for himself at the same place, with- 
out my leave or the leave of the church, 



and (hen he wiih his party left the house- 
as if they were afraid the devil would 
catch them; while the church and friends- 
of truth kept thrir seats, until the closing 
remarks in truth were made. 

Brethren, it does seem to me, that the 
devil is by his means so deceiving the peo- 
ple, that if it were possible he would de- 
ceive t he-very elect. But, thank God, it 
is not possible. For this reason, we the 
children of God should rejoice, for we are 
kept by the power of God through faith 
unto salvation. Therefore, we do not fear 
what man can do to us, when the Lord is 
on our side. So go on in the strength of 
the Lord, and may great grace remain and 
abide with all my Primitive brethren and 
sisters, is my prayer - . 

1 have three churches of the Primitive 
faith, one in Barnwell, one in Edgefield, 
and one in Lexington; those aim to live as 
brethren in the faith of the gospel, not 

nrienced the gospel church. 2nd. That 
Christ's baptism was no part of his inaugur- 
ation into his priestly office. And 3d. 
That baptism did not come in lieu of cir- 
cumcision, or at least the apostles did not 
ihink so. 

1st. That John was not a Levitical priest, 
will appear from the following passages of 
scripture. Luke 1st, 80th: And the 
child grew and waxed strong in spirit, 
and was in the deserts till the day of his 
showingunto Israel-. Matth. 3rd, 1st: In 
those days came John the Baptist, pleach- 
ing m the wilderness of Judea. and saying, 
repent ye, fur the kingdom of Heaven is at 
hand. We have no grounds to believe 
that the Levitical rites and ceremonies, 
which were necessary to constitute him a 
priest under the law, were ever performed 
by him; if they had, the Jews would not 
have stsut priests and Leviies from Jerusa- 
lem to ask him, who art thou? John, 1st 

fearing the rage and persecution of these | 19. Again, we have no account of him 
new fanglers, although they are casting ministering about the temple and altar, as 
out our names as doers of evil: not reck- ' was invariably the duty and custom of the 
oning the suffering of this present time, I priests. But we learn, that he was a man 
worthy to be compared with the glory j sent from God to prepare the way before 
that shall be revea'ed in us. For if we will Christ. 

live righteous in Christ Jesus, we must 
suffer persecution; for blessed are you, 
saith the Saviour, when men shall perse- 
cute you, and revile you, and speak ai 

We now proceed to show, that he was a 
gospel preacher. Mark 1st. The beginning 
of the gospel of Jesus Christ the Son of 
God. The apostle here alludes to the 

manner of evil against you falsely for my preaching of John, as was predicted by 
sake; rejoice and be exceeding glad, for I the prophet, and calls it the beginning of 

the gospel, (he certainly knew.) There- 
fore we rationally conclude, that he was 
a gospel preacher, and that his first address 
to his hearers was the beginning of the 
gospel of Jesus Christ. He taught them a 
doctrine different from what they had ever 
heard before. He told the Pharisees and 
Sadducees, to bring forth fruits meet for 
repentance, and to claim no church privi- 
leges, because they were the descendants of 
Abraham. And that the axe was now laid 
unto the root of the tree, and that every 
tree that brought not forth good fruit, was 
to be hewed down and cast into the fire. 
Thus shewing, that children were not enti- 
tled to membership in the gospel church by 
virtue of their parent's faith. Put that they 
must repent anil believe on him that came 
after him, i. e. on Jesus the Saviour of sin- 
ners. The Lord himself taught the doc- 
trine of repentance and faith, he instructed 
his apostles to go out and preach, that men 
opinion. 1st. That John the Baptist was should repent and believe; and every gos- 
not a Levitical priest, but that he was a pel preacher from that time until now, has 
gospel preacher, and that with him com- j preached the same in substance. This is 

great is jour reward in heaven, for so per- 
secu'ed they the prophets which were be- 
fore you. 

Brethren, we the poor Piimitives in 
South Carolina, desire all your prayers 
for us that we may not be devoured by 
the beast of missions. I am now in the 
fifty-fifih year of my age, 1 have been en- 
gaged thirty of them in my poor way try- 
ing to preach the gospel; lor the last twenty- 
two years, now going on twenty-three, 
had the pastoral care of from one to four 
churches a year. I subscribe myself your 
unworthy brother in much tribulation. 


Leighlon, Alabama, 
April 19, 1841. 
Job, 32nd, ch. 17th vcr. 1 will an 
swer also my part, 1 also will show mine 



the gospel that will be preached to the end 
of time, in all nalien«, for a witness unto 
them. Paul says, if any man preach any 
other gospel, ltt him be accursed. 

Now we conclude, that we have clearly 
shown 'hat John was a gospel preacher; 
we now go on to show that with him com- 
menced the gospel church Luke 16th, 
16: The law and the prophets were until 
John, since thai lime the kingdom of Cod 
is preached, and ev^rv man pressclh into 
it. This kingdom of God was certainly 
the gospel church, and had its commence- 
ment with ihe preaching of John. A part 
of John's mission in preparing the way he- 
fore Christ, was to baptize with water. 
John 1st, 33d: And I knew bun not, but 
he that sent me lo baptize with water the 
same said unto me, upon whom thou shalt 
see the Spirit descending and remaining on 
him, the same is he which baptizeth with 
the Holy Ghost. 

Thus we see ihe Lord, by his messenger 
John, had prepared the way before our 
Lord. And he came, and was baptized of 
John in Jordan. Thus he suddenly came 
to his temple. Mai. 3d, 1. Now if his 
temple was not in existence, how could he 
have come to it? The church was the 
temple, and Christ became a member of il 
by baptism. The righteousness he fulfilled 
in the act of baptism, was complying with 
a gospel ordinance, which he established 
by his own example, and which lie re- 
quires to be observed by all his people or 
followers. H'eb. luth, 1. The law hav- 
ing a shadow of good things lo come, John 
preached Christ as the substance. There 
is no intervening space, between the sub- 
stance and shadow of any thing; if there 
was, the shadow would not be a certain 
guide. The twelve apostles were bap- 
tized by John, or they were not baptized at 
all. For Christ baptized not, and ihere 
was no other person sent from heaven to 

It is clear that John's mission was to 
prepare the way before Christ, and make 
ready a people prepared for him. This 
John did, by opening the way by which 
Christ entered the church. He also had a 
people prepared for him, out of whom he 
chose twelve. Mark, 3d. 14. Whom he 
ordained, that they should be with him, j except ye be circumcised after the manner 

dea, and there he tariied with them and 
baptized. John also was bapiizing in E- 
non, near to Salem, because there was 
much water there; and they came, and 
were baptized. This is the only account 
we have of the disciples of Christ and 
John, being engaged in baptizing at the 
same time. Hut this is sufficient to show, 
that they acted in concert. Head ihe 
chapter, and you will find that John said, 
that he that hath Ihe hride is the bride- 
groom. Was Ihere ever a bridegroom 
without a bride? This was t^e winding 
up of John's mission. And he, ihe friend 
of the bridegroom, could now rejoice, be- 
cause of the bridegroom's voice. In short, 
he beheld the Lord in and at Ihe head of 
his church, and his disciples performing 
the gospel ordinance of baptism, to which 
Christ himself had submitted. Can all 
ihis bp, and the iospf'I church not yet es- 
tablished? Where shall we fix on a begin- 
ning point, or a lime when the gospel 
church was established, unless it be at (he 
end of the law and the beginning of the 
gosp I. If it be not at that lime, we are 
left without a clue lo guide our search; so 
that our conclusions might be correct, or 
incorrect, and no person prove the reverse. 

2nd. We now propose to show, lhat 
Christ's baptism was not an inauguration 
into his priestly office. We have already 
shown, that John was nota Levitical priest, 
consequently no act of his could have in- 
troduced Christ unto his priestly office. 
Again, he was not made a prcst afier the 
order of Aaron, not after the law of a car- 
nal commandment, but after Ihe power of 
an endless life, and that with an oath, after 
the order of Melchisedec The Lord call- 
ed, qualified, and inaugurated Melchisedec 
into the priestly office; there were no hu- 
man ceremonies used in making him a 
priest, and Christ was made a priest after 
the same order. 

3d. We come now to show, that baptism 
did not come in lien of circumcision, or at 
least the apostles did not think so. The 
day of Pentecost, according to Bible dates, 
was 33 years after Christ. Agreeably to the 
same dates, 46 years after Christ, Acts 15th 
1st: And certain men which came down 
from Judea, taught the brethren and said, 

and thathe might send them forth lo preach. 
Another evidence that the gospel church 
commenced with John, is found in John, 
3d, 22 and 23 ver. After these things came 
Jesus and his disciples into the land of Ju- 

of Moses, ye cannot be saved. We see 
that Paul and Barnabas had no small dis- 
sention and disputation with them on this 
subject, so that it was referred to the apos- 
tles and elders at Jerusalem. Read the 


PttlMITlVli BAP'I 18T 

chapter, an) you will see how they 
disposed of it. Still oflaier date. Gal. 2 — 

25 years afler the day of Pentecost we see 
that circumcision was practised in the 
church. None will. say, that baptism was 
not practised also in the church all the 
time. Can any conclude, that the apo-tles 
would have kept up two ordinances in the 
church at the same time, if they believed 
one came in place of the other? When 
the Saviour was on the earth he never inti- 
mated such a thing; and p. ft. r his depar- 
ture, in 25 years, the applies never told 
any of the many thousands thai listened to 
their instructions, that baptism came in 
lieu of circumcision. If they had, it would 
have settled the question forever. 

So, brethren, I think I have proven to the 
satisfaction of any unprejudiced mind, tint 
John the Baptist was a gospel preacher, 
and not a Levilical priest as some assert; 
and that baptism did not come in lieu of 
circumcision, as some will have it. 

And now, my brethren, farewell, May 
the God of all grace rest and abide with 
you all, and when it goes well witn thee, 
pray for your poor unworthy bjpoiher in 
tribulation. DjIVID JOHNSTON. 


Georgia, Upson cly, Union Hill, ) 
May 32, 1841. \ 


In which the fust letter of each line will 
make die following doublet: 

Primitive Baptist page, 
Survive to fall ripe agei 

Pervade, little page-, the land of Ishi,* 
Repel all his foes, keep sword on the thigh; 
Incessantly ealTFhjr "Come out. of her, 
My people", the voice of Jshi now hear. 

Inlist in 1 1 is cause, take helmet, and shieldi 
The sword of the spirit, properly wield; 
Israel's invaded, the foes fill the plain, 
Vast numbers, now view them, marching amain. 

Excursive, prince Gog, with all his trainbands, 
Behold them advance, with bows in their hands, 
Also, hear them say, "we'll seize on much prey." 
Plied well now, the sword 'twill vast of them slay. 

Their weapons of war, themselves and their all, 
Indeed, on the mounts of Israel shall fall; 
So much says the word of Ishi our king, 
Then, in hirn we'll trust, his praise we will sing. 

Pace on, little page, and hie thee away, 
Again go the rounds, — hark! hear a voice say; 
'•Gog threatens thy life", but fear not his bow, 
Emanuel reigns, the beast to o'er th row i 
*See Hosea, 3 chap. 16 v. 

See ihirl v-ninili ofEzftkie), he 
Understood surely, that Magog should he 
l.'.'puls'd and o'ercome, and in the field fall; 
Vict'ry is Ishi's, he'll conquer them all. 

Tn fact, seven years, much armor we learn, 
Various weapons die victors shall burn: 
Every Magog buried must be, 
The place for their graves is east of the sea. 

Of all Gog's vast, host, no bone should be seen, 
For that would infect, the land make obscene; 
Unweariedly let, all Israel then, 
Look sharp, and search out the bones of said men. 

!.<M men be employed to search, and in fine, 
I'ernove all the bones, or set up a sign; 
interers to bury, and thus cleanse the land, 
People of Ishi, unite heart and hand. 

Endeavoar'd I have to give thee some views, 
And if they are just, do not them refuse; 
Greet all the dear saints in Christ. — may each pen 
Extol three-one God forever: — Amen. 

Db\r brethren Editors: Seeing, I 
have closed my essay in verse, permit me 
to make a few remarks in prose, which 
j niiy enable the reader to gather my scraps 
! of views on the 3S and 39 chapter of 
I Ezekiel, This prophecy, being figurative, 
we are not to understand it in a literal, 
but, in a spiritual sense. The term Gog, 
I we may understand to prefigure, that spir- 
it of error, which ever has opposed the 
true faith of the gospel, and cause of 
Christ's kingdom on earth: — the term 
MaffOg, all those who are united to him 
(Gog.) & are inimical to the true evangeli- 
cal faith. His implements of war, spears, 
bows, &c. may mean, all the stratagems 
which his salanical art can invent to carry 
on his designs; to take a spoil, and to take 
la p'cy. v. 12. The time of his coming, is 
j th" la'tcr days, which we may understand 
I to be the present, or gospel days; and in- 
( deed when we see him, we can no longer 
I doubt the truth of this prophecy, r.or time 
of its fulfilling. See the men-made sys- 
tems, observe the unscriptural practices now 
held to as religious observances; notice 
the dire effects produced; then say, he is 
now here, even at the doors. 

But he is to be turned back. Chap. 35. 
v. 2: And I will turn thee back, and leave 
but the sixth part of thee, &c. This sixth 
part, 1 conceive, will be much increased 
even to an innumerable host, and will be 
that Gc and Magog which will compass 
the camp of the saints about, after the end 
of the thousand years of Christ's reign 
with the faithful; for, it is said, the number 
of whom isas the sand of the sea." Rev. 
20 chap. S and 9. vs. But to return: v. 6: 
1 will send a fire on Mngog, &c. v. 7: So 
will 1 make my holy name known in the 

Pm&tlTIVK liAJ'TlST. 173 

tnhlsl of my people Lrael; and I will n >t I to eCitous i-himitive battisT. 
let them pollute my holy mime any more. I — 

&c ^This jjart of the pro'pheey compared | Ybungsville, Tallapoosa county, Jlla. > 
with v. 'J9 seems to be conednSive, ami | May 28/7i, IS -11. $ 

places the lime of* its fnHUflient yet to come, [ De ah Hukthren: As it has f II to my 
for we cannot suppose that Israel, or the \ lot to sen;! on our Just dues, I shall attempt 

church, has ever, as jet, been so pure in 
worship as, not lo pollute Goct's holy name. 
in some degree, but has often transgressed 
and caused 1 1 i tit to hide his face from ihem i hut knowing my own weakness aiu 

lor the l'jrsi lime to enclose it in a few lines 
of my scribbling Dear brethren, 1 have 
hid it. oil my mm i many times to write, 


(at least) for a se isoh 

So we learn thai all Gosr's host shall fail i -; 

wg so many able writers, tbat make my 

in the open field, or field of bati 

>ui rejoice wool 

read their eommunica- 

an-il In 'v ! ion- 

rti f irb .re wrii ing 

A n d as I 

shall he'buried, their weapons burn', & even have many thing* on mind, I shall forbear 
their bones are to b ■ buried. Bv the term writing any thing more than 1 will give 

rspi-i . 

bone, 1 understand lo imail, 
or il may mem, an issue oi 
Adam said of Eve, she is bone of my 
bone," &c. It is said, moreover, libit af- 
ter theeaul of seven month', the people 
shall search, and whfe'n'any scelh a man's 
bone, then shall lie sal up a sign by i T , lib 
the buriers hive buried it. Whit pari ol 

on a small history of m\ life, as time and 
-p ice will not allow me to g j into a full de- 
tail i hereof. 

i was bom in the year ofonr Lord 17S6, 
in Snmter district, South Carolina; and 
lived in ad ih ■ pursuits of what is called 
civil mirth until I was twenty five years 
old, wi 1; m my cheeks of cj is. in ice, and 

common time is meant here, bv the seven | made m mv promises, and strong rcsolu- 
months, timte alone can determine; perhaps | lions; but f.ule i, until il pleased God (who 
it means many years. The li'irie for scaivh- works all things after the counsel of hi-j 
ing for men's bones may be even now; for. I own will.) to show me as i believe what 
although Magog may be slain, in the Old a groat sinner I was. Dear brethren, I 
School churches generally, yet, it is fear-ldid think there >ui'-cv was such a sinner as 
ed« there are men's bones yet to be found I i was, and i went i'ov some weeks, of all 
among them. 

men lli 




Now, cleai - brethren, look sharp, and [every breath was, if it was possible, for 
where you d'SCover a man's b m >, an urn i <he Lord to have mercy on me; but 
scriptural practice, set una sign to ii thai could noi see how be could be just, and 
the buriers'j ihe churches, may bury h ; save -such a sinner as 1 was. And one 
i'or, il it remains, j- L will infect, •mid cause night 1 lay down to try to lake my rest, 
much feebleness among the fljck, and and almost in despair, and in I'hfe situation 
may also cause the good^soephe.rd lo hi.lejal an unexpected time, clear brethren, 
his face from his people, and give (hem! I do believe thai God spoke peace to my 
into the baud of their enemies. See, v. I troubled soul; these words being spoken to 
2'3: And the heathen shall know, that the my mind iu a local voice, apparently as 
house of lsracd went iniu e ipiiviiy lor their ' plain as if some man had spoke to me: I 
iniquity: because they trespassed against l will give you life in Christ the Lord. O, 
me, therefore hid 1 my face from them, brethren, language fails me to express the 
and gave them into the hand of their en | joy that 1 experienced at that time. 1 
tones. could ih m see 1 hat Christ hid siti.-iied the 

l now submit these remarks to the tin- ! I >w, and made it honorable, & thai God the 

prejudiced reader, leaving unuotii 

mucn ! V allier, lor his sal 

iad pardoned my sins. 

t/f {lie outlines. 1 should like to have the; Ami 1 went to sleep perfectly at ease, and 
views of brother LivvrcncV, or some wii-i got. up riext morning serene and calm, 
ler in the Priiiiiiivej on this prophecy. 

Now cannot the pen which wrote that piece, Fro<j- 
Assume wonted zeal, and treat upon Co^ ry. 

Dear breihreu-c- adieu for the' Vmesent. 
louts y.ct*fB it muiaUou. 


hid i really thought i never should see any 
more trouble iii this world. 

iiut, in the course of that day, ! gnl almost 
in despair, ami of all men most, miserable, 
and was for some lime almost in desoaii'. 
There wnsanold Dap'.ist deacon living in 
a few miles of me, and 1 had great faith 
in him; and i came to the conclusion, I 
would go and see him, and lay my unhap- 



py case before him. And I went one ni»bt 
and stayed with him and told him my un- 
happy situation; and he lold me, that Goii 
had pardoned my sins, the evil spirit was 
doing all he could to keep me from dis- 
charging my duty, encouraged me to go 
to their next meeting and tell the church 
what he helived the Lord had done foi 
my pooi soul. And when the time came 
I went. 1 never had heard an experience in 
my life, and had seen one man only bapti- 
zed; 1 told the church I lie travels of my 'soul 
and laid my case honestly before the church, 
and they received me as one amongst them 
and on t fie third Sunday in November 181 1, 
lohesed my Lord and master, in following 
him into the liquid grave. And, dear 
brethren, 1 have been a poor stumbling 
Baptist ever since. But to return. 

In ISIS, 1 moved to Alabama, and 1 
found the same kind of Baptists there 
When we met together, we ail saw eye lo 
eye, and spoke the same thing*. in the 
fall of 1820, if my memory serves me right, 
the Alabama Association was constituted 
by God's ministers, as 1 believe, and they 
kept all missionism out of the bonds of 
(he Association. But ii pleased God, who 
works ail things after the counsel of his 
will, to take brother MeLemore to him- 
self, and brother Baker moved to the State 
of Mississippi; and 1 think last fall was six 
years, there was a small infant born in the 
Association, called Home Mission, or an 
itinerant society, thai grew in one year lo 
Ire a giant. And as time and space will 
not allow me to give you half, 1 will just 
touch on the outlines, and come to a close. 
But in the course of the year we were 
crowded with agents from the North and 
East, some crying for money to christianize 
the world, and some for money to educate 
young men to preach the doctrines ami com- 
mandments, I will say of men. And i 
will just say there never was any more 
peace till there was a separation. 

And in 1837, 1 moved about eighty 
miles, and sei 

children, if one at all. No more at present, 
after subscribing myself your brother in 
tribulation, and in the, bonds of Christian 


Pint Bluff, Copiah county, Mi. 7 
May 11 th, 1841. \ 

Brethren Editors: I received your 
pup'T t.he Primitive Baptist, May 2d. I 
received two bundles and 1 am well pleased 
with them. I hope God will bless you 
an I keep you in his hand from all harm. 

Dear brethren Editors, 1 never knew 
i here was such a paper as the Primitive 
Baptist till about January. A friend of 
mine told me there was such a paper, this 
friend sent me two of your numbers. I 
read them and was inwardly glad when I 
read them. J directly sent to you for 
them, and was gl id to think that there was 
a people, though strangers to me in the 
flesh, yet 1 hope that they with myself 
pos-css the same spirit. I am very old. i 
was born 17G3, was baptised 1S02. I am 
under deep obligation lo my Lord for his 
goodness to me. 1 cannot write as 1 de- 
sire at this time. 

Dvnr brethren in tribulation, farewell 
for awhile. I hope you with myself will 
soon meet in that kingdom where sorrow 
and sighing will be done away. i sub- 
scribe myself yours in tribulation. 



Brooklyn, Conecuh county, Jila. > 
May 22, 1S41. S 

To the Conecuh River Primitive Baptist 
Association, und oil the Brethren of 
the same Jail h y greeting". 

We, the Pilgrim's Rest church, do ear- 

tied in Tallapoosa county, neatly request a visit from the mini.tenng 
Ala and so it was the will of God from I brethren of that As<oci ition, to our Asso- 
iliffereat parts, and. liflerent Slates, there > elation next foil, which commences on 
were a few of the Old School order to form Friday before the third Sunday in Oclo- 
a church on we believe the Primitive plat- . ber next, as we believe the Antioch As- 
form and our doors ate shut against all I hey 
the society men of every order under the appointed brother James Millar to visit 

you last fall, and hrs not knowing the time 

U Dear brethren, do excuse me for writing of your session was disappointed. The 
so scattering; and 1 will eome to a close, Pi Igrim's Rest church .is on the road lead- 
after earnestly begging you all to pray for jing from Sparta to Montezuma, nine and a 
poor unworthy me, the least of all God's 'half miles east fiom Spaita. 



t)one in conference, and signed in behalf 
of the church. 


Church Clerk. 

To be wise in our own eyes, to be wise 
in the opinion of the world* and lo be wise 

in the sio-ht of our Creator, are three 
things so very different, as rarely to co- 


Jl witness of the 16th Century. 

"Hut if we do not like to leave out this 
term altogether, (which would be most safe, 
and also most religious,) we may, never- 
theless, with a good conscience te^ch thai 
it be used so far as to allow man a free-will 
not in respect of those things which are 
above him, but in respect only of those 
things which are below him; that is, he 
may be allowed to knoiv that lie has, as to 
bis goods and possessions, the right of using, 
acting, and omitting, according to his free- 
will, although, at the same timn, that same 
free-will is overruled by the free will of 
God alone, just as he pleases: but that 
Godward,orin things which pertain unto 
salvation or damnation, he has no freewill, 
but is a captive, slave, and servant, eith- 
er to the will of God, or to the will ef sa- 
tan. * * 

Uut the hints which you have thrown to- 
gfthtr in the conclusion of your preface, 
have no weight whatever. 

Such as your calling my doctiinea 'fa- 
bles and useless:' and saving, that Christ 
crucified should ra her be preached after 
the example of Tan I; that wisdom is to he 
taught among them that are perfect: that 
the language of scripture is attempered 
to the various capacities of hearers: and 
your therefore thinking that it should be left 
to the prudence and charity of the teacher, 
to teach that which may be profitable to his 

All this you advance senselessly and a 
way from the put pose. For neither do we 
teach any thing but Christ crucified. But 
Christ crucified, brings all these tilings a- 
long with him '-elf, ami that 'wisdom also 
arming them that are perfect:' for there is 
no o her wisdom to be taught among Chris- 
tians, than that which is 'hidden in a mys 
tery': and this belongs to the 'perfect,' 
and not lo the sons of the Jewish and legal 

generation, who without faith, glory in 
their works, as Paul, 1 Cor. ii. seems to 
think? Unless by preaching Christ cruci- 
fied, vou mean nothing else but calling out 
these words: Christ is crucified!" 


North Carolina. — .1. Biggs, Sen. Williams/on. 
I. M. G. Moore, Germanton. W. w. Mizell, Ply- 
mouth. Charles Mason, Roxboro' '. Benj. Bynum, 
Speight's Bridge. H. \.vern, Averasboro'. J. H, 
Iveneday, Chalk Level. Burwell Temple, Raleigh. 
Geo. w. McNeely, Leaksville. Wm, H, Vann, 
Long ""reek Brdge. Thomas Bagley, Smithjic\d. 
James H. Sasser, Waynesboro''. John Fruit, San- 
dy Creek, L. B. Bennett, Ileathville. Cor's, Cravenswl/e, William Welch, Abbott's 
Creek, J. Limh, Camden G. H. Ai B, Bains, 
Jr. Stanhope. C. T. Sawyer, Powell's Point. 
Isaac Tillery, Ldplandi Thomas Miller, Eliza- 
beth City. Harris Wilkerson, West Point. Isaac 
Alderman, Moore's Creek, James Miller, 'Mi/ton 
Park. David R. Canaday, French's Mills. L, P, 
Beardsley. Greenville. Isaac Meekins, Columbia, 
L. J. J. Puckett, Richland, Wm. M. Rushing, 
White's Sto.e. Richard Rouse, Strabaie, Wood- 
son Parish, TaXahoe, 

South Carolina. — ; lames Hemhree, Sen. An- 
derson C. H. Charles Carter, Cambridge. B, 
Lawrence, Effingham. James Burris, Sen.; Bold 
Spring. William S. Shaw, Rock Mills. Levi 
Lee, Blaekvilte Andrew Westmoreland, Cash- 
vi\\e. R, Hamilton, Aiken. Marshal McGraw, 
Brown's. John Li .Simpson, Conk/iam, J, Gi 
Bowers, Hickory Hill, Wm. Nelson, Camden, G, 
Mathews, Mount Willing. Jacob B. Hi<rginv, 

Georgia. — William Mcseley, Bear Creek. Al- 
ien Cleveland, Mclhnough, John McKenney, For- 
syth. Anthony Holloway, Lagrange. P, M. Cal- 
houn, Knoxville. R. Reese, Eatonlon. Thomas 
Amis and David w. Patman, Lexington. Jona- 
than Veel, James Hollingsworth and Stephea 
Castellow, Macon. William D. Taylor, Union 
Hill. John w. Turner, Pleasant Hit. Joshua 
Uow&o'm, A lab-smile, .las. M. Rockmore, Upatoie. 
P. Ii. Edwards, Georgetown. Win. Trice, Thom- 
aston. Ezra Mc.Crary, Warrcnton. Prior Lewis, 
Rodney. John Lassetter, Vernon. B.Pace, Van Wert. 
L. Peacock, Cassville, V. D.Whatley, Barnesville'. 
Alex. Garden and Thomas C. Price, Mount Morne. 
EliasO. Hawthorn, Bainbridge J. G. wintrino-- 
ham, Florence. Wm. Mi Anlos, (rreenviWe. Ran- 
dolph Arnold, Latimer's Store. T, J. Bazemore 
Clinton. Joi.Stova.\],Aqui\\a. Jason Grier, Indian 
Springs. Wm. McElvy, Alfapu/gus. Furnalvey 
Milledgeville. Wm. Garrett, Tucker's Cabin. Jesse 
Moore &.lo!in Hardie, Irwinton. Leonard Pratt 
Whitcsville. Edward Jones, Decatur. A, Hen- 
don, Shi]o. A. G. Simmons, Hickory Grove, 
Win. J. Parker, Ghenuba. John Herington, Wei- 
bom's Mills, James P. Ellis, PineviWe™, F. f-f a(r * 
gard, Athens. H. Barron, Jackson, A.M,Thom Dsn n" 
Fort Valley. Daniel O'N eel, Fowl/ on. John Apple 
white, Waynesboro'. 13, P, Rouse, Friendship, 8am'! 
Williams, fair Play, John W a yne,Cam' Sl R s 
I Iamnck , Canollton .David Smith, Cool Sprin «■,' A ' 



Spear, Flat Shoals, Moses Daniel, Bowery i Moses 
Hi Penman, Marietta. James Bush, B!nl;e\y, 
Asa Edwards, Uous/on. Richard Stephens", Sen'n 
TarversmWe, John Stroud, Kendall, James Scar- 
borough, Stalesborcugh^ Jethro Oates, Mu/- 
berry Grove, R chert R. Thompson, Sfcoltsville. 
Owen Smith, Troupville. Kindred Braswell, 
Duncansvillc. Edmund Si Cham'oles3, Mailings 
Store. James w. Walker, Marlborough. Edmund 
Dumas, Johnston ei\\e. David RTowelt, Jr. Groo* 
rrrsviWr. Joel Culley, Cov'xnglon, Benjamin 
Bairns, 7711a Ricch, David Jones, Traveller's Rest. 
W. I?. Mullens, Rossville, Willis S, Jarrell, 
Lumpkin. Thomas Eyerritt, Bristol. Lsham 
Edwards, Wilr.u. Joseph Daniel, Fish's. 

Alakama. — L. B. Moscloy, Cahawba. A. Kea- 
ton, Belmont. Benjamin hloyi, LS Fayette. Wi 

Green. William MoBee, Old Town Creek, Rob- 
ert Gregory, Carouth f s X Roads. John Scallorn, 
Shady Gtove, A. Burroughs, Moore's i^ Roads, 
Samuel Hag-ward, Davis's Mills. Kvan Davis, 
Grape Spring, Joshua Yeales, ShelbyviWe. 

Mississippi. — Worsbam Mann, Columbus. Wil- 
liam Muddleston, Tiiumustun. Nathan Tims, 
Kosciusko. Jonathan D. Cain, Waterford. Na- 
than Morris, Lexington. Charles Hodges, 
Cotton Gin Fort. Bejamin E. Morris, Wheel- 
ing. Simpson Parks, LbcTcHart's Store, Mark 
Prevvett, Aberdeen.. William Ringo, Hamilton. 
James M. Wilcox, LoiMsmlle. Edm'd Beeman 
and Thomas H. Dixon, M icon. John Erwin, 
Linkhorne, Herbert D. Buck ham, Pontotoc, Wil- 
liam Davis, Houston. Wm.R Warren, Dekalb. C. 
Nichols, Stump Bridge. Wooten Hill, CooksuiW 

Adam MeOreary, Brooklyn. Josiah Jones. Jack 
son. David Jacks, New Market. Sherrod w 
Harris, Vienna. John McQueen, Graves' 1 Ferry, \ 
William Talley, Mount Moriah, Graddy Her- 
ring, Clayton. G, w. Jeter, Pint Lata, Samuel' 
C, Johnson, Pi Jasa/f/ Grove. W rh.Cr*utcher, Hunts- ; 
v'lle, Wim H. Cook and Ii'y Petty, Fickemvil/e. I 
Seaborn Hamriek, Flanlersville. James S. Mor- 
gan, Dayton. Wm. Hyde, Gainesville, Ruins | 
Daniel. Jarueston, Frederick Mines, Gasiom Z-. j 
Joli!is,7';>,'/7.', Eli McDonald, FainsoMe. Wm' j 
VjiWuW, You ngsciWe. John Brow 11, li r ucouca. Silas ' 

Louisiana. — Eli Headen, Marburyv&le. Thosi 
Paxton, Greensboro'' . 

Missouri. — Joel Ferguson, Jackson 

Arkansas.— John Hart, Pint Wood, M. C« 
Bonrland, Ozark. 

Illinois. — Richard M. Newport, Grand Vicw> 
Thomas w. .Martin, East Ne'hon. 

Indiana. — Isaac w, Denman. Gallatin, 

Ohio. — Joseph H. Flint, Trenton. John B. 
Moses, German/on, 

Kentucky. — Levi B, Hunt, Manchester. Wash- 
Watts, CoK-nclixesvilXe. Levi Lancaster, 

Monk, [for se~ Shoe Beml, 11. Lackey, Scraper, j Canton. James Hollow-ay, Fair Dealing. Dein- 
James V. WtftsoB, .iiibevilit- David Treadwell cey Burgess, Salem, 

and ll.w. CarYisls. Mount lliekorij. Joseph ILHol- V"i! — Rudolph Rorer,Berger r s Store. John 
loway, ]\ tzle Green. Jesse Lee, Farmers- ■. Clark, Fredericksburg. Win w. West, Dumfries. 
mile. William GrubfJ's, I<ouitvi>ie. Henry Ad- j William Burns, HaXifax Ci //■ Jesse Lankford, 
tuns, Mount Wilting. Joel I!. Chan,! less, Luxe- Bowcrs"s, Elijah Hanshrougli, SomefDJille. Wil- 
rillr. Kfl'iot Thomas, IVdUainston. E. Pickett, son Davenport, lyirite ll.rise. Arthur w. Eanes, 
China Grove, James Grtuilbies, Benton. John ' EdgehWl, James B. Collins, Burnt Chimneys. 
M. Pearson, DadeviWc. John i). Hoke, Jackj-on- | Penxsvlvania. — Heaekiab West, South Hill. 

vilie, Elijah R. Berry, Cobb's Store. Willis 
Cos, Souk'eehatehic. Ha'/.ael LiuleliekL Ten Li- 
onels. John w. P'eTlu-m, Frank] in, Philip May, 
Jhlmont, A. D. Cooper, WiWiamston. John 
Harrell. Missouri. James K. Jacks. Litton. 
Henry llilliard, BcUvitle. John A. Miller and 
James Mays, Ockfuskee. Durham Kelly, .'.I x- 
nndriu, Josiah A[. Lauderdale, Athens. Wil- 
liam Thomas, Gainer's State, John Bishop, Jr. 
Crockellsvitle. lames Cray, Case/a. Thomas L. 
Roberts, Mon'rocviUe. James llihhvth, Pleasant 
Plains. E. M. A'mw, Midway, J. E. A.1 brill nn, 
Jc/ieecr. Joseph Holloway, Activity. Yv . J. Sor- 
lelle. Jacksonville. Witiiam BiazsH, Eat aw, Cal- 
vin Davis, Livingston. 

TjnfWEssm.— Michael Burldialter, Chcekss, tic, 
Aaron Compton, Somervilk. Asa Newport, 
Mcesvilic. James Maulden, Van Bitren. Solo- 
mon Rnth.Wesr&y. Win. C room, Jackson. Sion 
Bass,T/wee For/cs, John w. Springer, SagcrCreele, 
William S. Smith., Winchester. Thomas Hill, 
Sevierville. William Spencer, Lynchburg, C'.T. 
Echols, Mifflin. Aaron Tison, Medon. George 
Turner, Wuverlt/. Anner Steed, Mulberry, Henry 
Randolph, Snodusville. Pleasant A. Witt, GViee/e's 
K iJoods. J . Cooper, Unionville. Michael Bran- 
osn, Long Savannah. Jas. II, Holloway, U<axl \ 

Joseph Hughes, Gum Tree. 

Niivv Yore.— Gilbert Buebe, New Vernon. 
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No. 12. 



5. 14: Ye are the sight of the world. A. 
city that is. set on a hill cannot be hid. And 
this cily is the city of God. Glorious' 
things are spoken of thee, city of God. 
Heb. 12, 22. But ye are come unto 
Mount Sion, and unto the cily of the liv- 
ing God; which is the same as that of 1 Pe- 
ter, 5, 2: Feed the flock of God. Again, 
fear not, little flock, &o. Why then is she 
called a little flock, a little city, &c. be- 
cause, first, by way of distinction from 
that of the great city of Babylon; 2d, be- 

ttaleis;h, North Carolina, 
January 1«, 1841. 
Ceau brethren Editors: While I am 
Attempting to write, 1 am gratified in be- 
lieving 1 am communicating to wise men, 
(I mean wise unto salvation;) and as I am 
not writing for the mastery, but I hope 

for the edification of one another, L feel I cause there are few saved, comparatively 
under no dread of contradiction; because 1 | speaking. Mat. 7. 14: Because, strait is 1 
think if I advance an improper idea, wise! the gate and narrow is the way which 
men of God, loving the brotherhood, will .leadeth unto life, and lew there be that 
feel it their duty to correct purely for the find it; whMe wide is the gate, and broad is 
sake of my edification, as well as that or the way, that Icadclh to destruction, and 
pur numerous readers. The doctrine that j many there be which go in there at. Jsa. 
I am' about to enter on, I wish it to be; I. 9: Except the Lord of hosts had left 
calmly investigated, that it may be ascer- junto us a very small remnant, we should' 
tained whether it be Old School doctrine have been as Sodom, &c. Rem. 9. 27: A 

6r not, or in other words, Bible doctrine. 
That text that f will first call your atten- 

remnanl shall be saved, &c. Then it does 
appear from the above quoted scriptures,' 

tion to, is to be found in the 9 chapter of and many more to the point, that there 
Ecclesiastes, 14 and 15 verses: There was a i will be more lost than saved. Hence the 
little city, and few men within it; and there, correctness of the church, or city of God, 
came a great king against it, and besieged j being called a little city, and few men in it. 
it, and built great bulwarks against it: 15 i 1, I will next notice the existence of this. 
V. Now there was found in it a' poor wise! city; 2, the builder of it; 3, the situation of 
man, and he by his wisdom delivered the j it- This city has its existence from be- 
city; yet no man remembered that samelfore the world was. Eph. 1. 4: Accord-' 
poor man. 1 will take up the text as I' ing as he hath chosen us in him before the 
think I understand it, and as it stands j foundation of the world, &c. Then there 
generally; and do by itas I have at all times! was grace given her, and loved before the 
in trying to preach, that is do my best. I i world was; 1, grace given, who hath saved 
shall first take notice of the little city; 2d, I us and called us not according to our works, 

the great king; 3d, his besieging it; 4th, his 
building great bulwarks against it; 5th, the 
poor wise man found in it, and how he deli- 
vered it ; 6lh, his not being remembered. 
First, the little city; which I understand 

but according to his own purpose and 
grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus 
before the world was. 2, that the church,' 
the city, the few men in it, was loved be- 
fore the world was. John, 17. 23, 24: 

to be the church of God, accordingto Mat. And hast loved them as thou hast loved 



me, for thou lovest me before the founda- 
tion of the world. 1 have loved thee with 
an everlasting love. 

Thus, brethren, this little city was saved, 
grace given, loved, before the vrorld was. 
in God's wisdom, in God's purpose, his 
choice, his predestination,, his election and 
love; for how could God love that, that 
did not exist in his wisdom? Proverbs, 
S. commencing 22 v. The Lord possessed 
me in the Lsgianing of his way, before his 
works of old. I was setup from, everlast- 
ing, from the beginning, or ever the earth 
was. When there were nc depths, before 
the mountains were settled, while as yet 
he had not made the earth, when he pre- 
pared the heave. is, when he established 
the clouds, when he gave the sea his de- 
cree, then i was by him as one brought 
with him. 31. Rejoicing in the habitable 
part of his earth; and my delights were with 
the sons of men. 

All these expression 1 ', brethren, particu- 
larly alluding to before Adam's dust was 
fashioned, of which his body was made, 
how can 1 but believe, but this little city 
was ever before the Lord? But let me 
here give you my views on the text. 
There was a little city. Shall we infer 
from there was a little city, that the same 
does not exist now? No, but it directs us 
to a particular time and circumstance, 
which I believe is this When God made 
Adam of the dust of the earth, and breathed 
into his nostrils the breath of life, he be- 
came a living soul; and the same act of 
creation deposited the whole churrh, or 
little city, few men in it, in the first Adam, 
which was of the earth, earthy; though 
figurative of the second Adam, which was 
the Lord from heaven. 

Now, dear brethren, do you believe 
that the little city and few in it, was the 
ehurch of God? If so, are we justifiable in 
Faying, there were more than these few in 
jt? 1 should think not. My own views 
are, that there were none but the few men 
in it actually, during the space Adam lived 
rlear of tiansgression y though virtually 
viewed in the foreknowledge of God were 
all ihe goals, or the children of the devil, 
or the gre:st city Babylon; because of one 
Hood hath God made all nations. In the 
jtateof rectitude in which Adam was 
made, did he represent the few men in the 
city; but also the second Adam, the Lord 
from heaven. Head the text: And there 
was found in it a poor wise man; which 1 
understand to be Christ. And for a proof 

he (Christ) was there: Behold, 1 fay 'M 
Zion for a foundation, a ston-p, a trieo5 
stone, a precious coiner ston<>, &c. Again*, 
read the first chapter of Matthew, and 
trace the gpnerations down to Christ, and 
see that his brethren according to the 
flesh received him not 

The taw given Adam in the garden, was 
given him in his innocenoy while repre- 
senting the church and Christ in particular \ 
otherwise, there would have been no trans- 
gression. For where there is no law,, 
there is no transgression. Then as this 
poor wise man was in the eily, he in one 
•sense was under the law. Now it is said, 
that concerning our flesh and blood, that 
he took part of the same. Mark that r 
(part.) — Then in the fulness of the lime, 
God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, 
made under the law to redeem them that 
are under the iaw. So that 1 conceive that 
none were under the law actually, as a 
rule of life, but the little city; therefore, in> 
the transgression was the little city, and 
few men in it, besieged. 1 wish, however, 
to be distinctly understood, how tha* 
Christ was made sin for us, as by surety, 
thereby to pay the debt we had contracted. 
This law of surety, had its oiigin in the 
covenant of peace before time. 

But to return. As the tares were last sowre 
in the field, so 1 conceive not actually pre- 
sent when the law was given to Adam, or 
little city ; consequently the transgression 
ofthehiw given to Adam, was not ths 
origin of their being tares; but the battering 
down the ear gate, eye gate, and mouth 
gate of the little city, letting in the great 
king with all his children, who were fore- 
ordained to this condemnation in their 
father's sentence (the devil) by the Al- 
mighty God. Hence the earth did not 
bring forth briers, or thorns, until after Ad- 
am transgressed; even so the animated dust 
under the curse, brought forth Cain, and 1 
thousands t,f others, as a pest to the church 
of God; said by our Saviour to be a gener- 
ation. O generation of vipers, who hath 
warned you to flee from the wrath to come. 
Again, says Jesus, have not I chose you 
twelve, and one of you is a devil? See 
Acts, 13. 10: Thou child of the devil. 
Ye are of your father the devil, &c. They 
are further designated as the children of 
the flesh. The childien of the flesh are 
not accounted for the seed, but the children 
of the promise are accounted for the seed; 
even so, the children of the bond woman 
shall not be heir with the free. Why so? 



work out or sew together fig leaves to make 
them aprons; indicating a righteousness to 
cover their nakedness or shame, and to 
appear before God in justification and self- 
righteousness. Under the satanic in- 
fluence to both them that profess it, or them 
that make no profession, is great, yea, the 
greatest; and is a strong bulwark against it, 
not for the city. So strong, that it fills those 
that profess it with much anger to be opposed 
in it, j ea, with the spirit of persecution 
even unto death. See the circumstance of 
Cain, who slew his brother because Abel's 
offering was respected more than his. This 
too by the devil's oldest son. Right here 
the blade Was sprung up. Were the ser- 
vants allowed to gather them up? No. 
Did God suffer Cain to be slain? No. Was 
there any of the little city preserved, by 
Cain riot being Slain? Look and see. Gen. 
4. IS. From thence turn your attention 
to the prophetical dispensation, and see the 
great king's conduct in his subjects or chil- 
dren, the false prophets; eight hundred 
and fifty to one. I can't forget the little 
city. There is one trait has all along fol- 
lowed them, the love of money. Balaam, 
as an instrument in the hand of the great 
king, offering a reward to Bjlak to cuiss 
isrjel; with all the false deceivable offerings* 
and sacrifices, which were an abomination 
to God, tho' great against the little city in 
their estimation. Is not the Lord with usy 
none evil can come upon us. 

Leaving that dispensation and coming' 
down to i he gospel dispensation, we shell 
field, which the Lord God had made; and find all the materials laid in the great bul- 
he said unto the woman, yea, hath God warks at first, to wit: adultery, fornication,- 
said ye shall not eat of every tree of the , uncleanness, lascVvousness, idolatry,' 
garden. Now comes in the besieging part. | witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, 
The serpent the great king rears his batter- j wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envj'ino-s,' 
ing rams right before ear gate, and commen- \ murders, drunkenness, revelling, &c.* hi' 
Ces his operation against this innocent city. ' this dispensation you will find another" bold 
He burst open the ear gate by saying to the son, or workman, 6f this great king, to 
woman, ye shall not surely die. He then j wit, Herod. About the birth of Christ di» 
places his force against eye gate, and pushes , reeling the wise men to bring him word 
his operation by saying, for God doth know, '■ where the young child' was, that he mi<W»t 
that in the day ye eat thereof, then your . go and worship him. Finding he was 
eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as mocked, then putting the children to death 
gods knowing good and evil; which throws from two' years old and under, in order to' 
open this gate, places her eye upon the for 1 - ' destroy the poof wise man in the city. Ma- 
bidden fruit; it was so pleasant to the eye, ny olhets of like pljts. John the Baptist 
and a tree to be desired to make one wise, bjheaded in prison. And at lengih this is 
open ties mouth gale, she partook of the the heir, coma let us kill him, and ths in- 
fruit and gave to Adam, and he did eat. ' herilance shall be ours. Jesus at last crti- 
So the siege was completed. jcifivd, but still he lives. Next great bul- 

l now notice the 4th thing proposed. , warks against the apostles, -putting to' 
And built great bulwarks against it. The! death the saints of God, using Saul for a- 
first great bulwark commenced was,, to j while to whip, bind,- and' put to death, and 

because the law being transgressed by the 
church, and Christ being made under the 
same law to magnify it and satisfy divine 
justice, all the inheritance or benefits re- 
sulting therefrom by imputation belongs 
to the church. And the nature of the u 
tonement, brought to view in the parable 
of the treasure in the field which was 
bought for the sake of the treasure in it. 

This city is wondei fully situated, it has 
its bulwarks. Jerusalem literally had its 
threefold walls, thiee on every side, which 
Titus raised his battel ing rams against; hav- 
ing four sides, as it liuth four square, mak- 
ing twelve literally. So spiritually, it 
lieth foursquare, it has twelve foundations, 
and in them the names of the twelve apos- 
tles of the Lamb. And the length of it is 
as large as the breadth; the lengih, and the 
breadth, and the height of it are equal; it is 
well situated with water, there is a river, 
the streams thereof shall make glud the 
city of God. And to know what sort of a 
river this is, and its fountain head, see Rev. 
22. 1: And he showed me a pure river of 
water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding 
but of the throne of God and of the Lamb. 
Again, the Lord God is a wall of fire round 
about here, and the glory in the midst. 

I need riot say much oh the second pro- 
position: And there came a great king 
against it. This king 1 have already told 
you to be the devil. He is called a beast, 
the dragon, the serpent, the king of the bot- 
tomless pit. Genesis, 3. 1: Now the sjr- 
pent was more subtle than any beast of the 


waste the city to keep it in subjection to the 
great king. 

From ibis to law religion. The old king 
©f the pit becoming very religious, places 
himself as il were at the head of the church, 
taxing his own subjects as wel! as the sub- 
jects of the kingofZion; inventing semina- 
ries of learning to educate men to preach 
his doctrines, and enforce tliem on Christ's 
subjects to receive it; forming other auxil- 
iaries to facilitate the inventions. The 
Jesuits his chief missionaries to go and 
convert the world, if not by his doctrines, 
by the sword. This done by his Roman 
Catholic lackeys. And now in these 
modern times, men professing to be 
Protestants, resorting to same measures 
to qualify themselves to combat Roman 
Catholics, as they say. But we have 
this yet to realize, if ever} for I do not re- 
collect ever hearing one of them come out 
fully against the Catholic creed. And 
why not? because the learned Catholic is 
oneof their own stamp, or family; which ac- 
cords with that c-f Acts, 19. commencing 
T. 13: Then certain of the vagabond Jews, 
exorcists, took upon them to call over them 
which had evil spirits, the name of the 
Lord Jesus, saying, we adjure you by Je- 
sus whom Paul preacheth, (not we. ) And 
there were seven sons of one Sceva, a Jew, 
and chief of the priests which did so. And 
the evil spirit answerd and said, Jesus I 
know, and Paul I know; but who are ye? 
..And the man in whom the evil spirit was, 
leaped on them, and overcame them, 
and prevailed against them, so that thev 
fled out of that house naked and woun- 

Such would be the case with' our mod- 
tern missionists, in close contact with their 
Roman Catholic brethren. The Catholics 
would say, sir, who did you get your plan 
c-f preaching learning from colleges to 
preach, and your present plan of missionary 
operations, but from us? Therefore, doc- 
tor, heal thyself. Certainly then they 
must be overcome, naked of argument and 
their pride wounded, therefore they stand 
aloof from such engagements. But poor 
Old School Baptists are the object of their 
spleen, and I tell you, brethren of the Old 
Primitive Baptists, that the bulwarks of 
their great learning, and other inventions 
not known in the Bible, (though called 
benevolent,) are built against you the little 
city; as they boast themselves of their great 
numbers, and the Old School Baptists we 
•hall by our institutions cause to become 

extinct. Fear them not, my Father^ 
children; for after they have exhausted the' 
greatness of eloquence of their acquired 
abilities, you will stand; only cleave to the 
word of God, and you will through God 
Almighty obtain the victory. Law reli- 
gion iri this country 1 anticipate, brethren, 
as a bulwark against you; but 5'ou will 
feel none the less courageous thereby, in 
contending for the faith once delivered to 
the saints. 

Lastly, but not least. The great king 
has builded a great bulwark in this fleshly 
tabernacle, which is^at war with the sou! 
and every divine principle within it. Thai 
which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that 
v.bich is born of the spirit is spirit; & they 
are contiary the one to the other, so that 
the good the little city would they do not. 
And, says one of its inhabitants, I with my 
mind serye the law of God, but with my 
flesh the law of sin. Brethren, of the 
household of faith, I expect under a sense 
of the greatness of this part of satan's bul- 
wark, you are often visited with lamenta- 
tion. O, wretched man tfiat I am, who 
shall deliver me from this body of death} 
for when 1 would do good, evil is present 
with me. The soul is encompassed about 
with its wall of flesh, in which satan dwells 
as his part of the spoil-; the hellish princi- 
ples of satan are so interwoven, that the in-* 
habitants of the city have to fight all the' 
days appointed them on earth, almost in 
one continual scene of warfare. And we 
never shall get these 1 diabolians out of the 
walls, until the temples of our bodies are 
taken down by death, and not one stone 
left upon another. For you know that 
this earthly house must be dissolved, and 
our tabernacles which are movable be re-= 
moved; but while your little ships are on 
their sail to your desired haven, you often 
have contrary wind to contend with, while 
the tempestuous storms oftlimes burst up- 
on deck, the troubled sea cannot rest, but 
casleth up mire and dirt. Hence our an- 
gry, corrupt nature, by the fall. Did 1 say 
angry? Yea, sometimes our old nature,- 
Esau like, fly into a passion, say or do that 
which will make a citizen of the house- 
hold of God mourn, weep and lament; and 
think, or say, good Lord, can I be a child 
of God? VVhile under strict examination,- 
he finds his soul does not love such pro- 
ceedure, and remembers, that if I do the 
things I would not, it is no more I that do 
it, but sin that dwelleth in me; that is, ir» 
my flesh dwells no good thing, and' thi# 



serves as a port hole to let off the troubled 
Water from deck into the sea, from whence 
it came. 

Dear brethren and sisters, there are ma- 
ny such port holes through which the wa- 
ter passes off that seem to threaten safety. 
My grace is sufficient for thee — I never 
will leave thee, nor forsake. Then yoH 
remember your heavenly faiher is at the 
helm, ye are kept by ihe power of God 
through faith unto salvation, which renews 
the inward man day by dayt forgetfulness, 
neglect of duty in reading the scriptures, 
is of satan; these things makes the Chris- 
tian mourn. The love of the world, the 
lust of the flesh, the pride of life, are all of 
Jthe besieging king's work, and worketh 
death to the enjoyment of the religion of 
Jesus; and if you are a heaven-born soul, 
will mourn under it as well as visited with 
stripes. But I can't dwell, brethren; 
preach some yourself, as 1 have three oth- 
er propositions before me. And as I do 
not appear often in the Primitive, I hope 
you will bear with me. 

Now there was found in it a poor wise 
man, &c. This poor man 1 understand to 
be Christ Jesus; and as I have said before, 
the city the church. Now notice, a poor 
wiseman. For ye know the grace of our 
Lord Jesus Christ, that though he was 
rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, 
that ye through his poverty might be rich. 
£ Cor. 8. 9. Again: The foxes have 
holes, and the birds of the air have nests, 
but the Son of man hath not where to lay 
his head. Matthew, 8. 20. Then, breth- 
ren, you see by the above quoted texts, 
that Jesus Christ as man was poor; but by 
other scriptures, as God he was rich, pos- 
sessing all things. He also as man was of 
poor parentage, was cradled in a manger, 
wrapped in coarse cloth, &c. 

Found in it a poor wise man. Behold, 
I lay in Zion for a foundation, a stone, a 
precious corner stone, &c. Zion here 1 
understand to mean the church, likewise 
the little city the church; also, the stone 
Christ laid in the church, likewise the 
same as the poor man in the city. The 
question then arises, when was he laid in 
Zion? Answer, as early as the church 
was given in him, (Christ.) Question, 
when was that? Answer, before the 
world began. 2 Tim. 1. 9: But accord- 
ing to his own purpose and grace, given 
us in Christ Jesus before the world began. 
Time enough for the first Adam to figure 
the second, and to be found in the city. 

And that he, (Christ,) did not take on hira 
the nature cf angels, but the seed of Abra- 
ham; not the seed of the bond woman, but 
of the free; not the children of the flesh, 
that are not accounted for the seed; but 
the children of promise, who had power to 
give eternal life to as many as his Father 
had given him; which life was in himself, 
(Christ,) who is our life, which ever was 
our life before time, and ever will be our 
life. I mean the Christian's life. 

He by his wisdom delivered the city. 
Pro. S. 12:1 wisdom dwell with prudence, 
and find out knowledge of witty inven- 
tion. O the depth of the wisdom and 
knowledge of God, &c. Thus this wis- 
dom devised the plan of redemption, or 
deliverance of this little city in eternity; 
by this wisdom he saw the besieged city all 
lying in ruin, polluted, dead in sin, carnal, 
sold under sin. The carnal mind is en- 
mity against God, is not subject to the 
law of God, neither indeed can be. In 
this deplorable condition was Ihe church of 
Jesus, whom he loved. An inquiry made, 
who will go? Says Jesus, send me, 1 will 
go. As much as if the Faiher had said, 
my beloved son, you see the condition of 
your church, your wife, your spouse, 
that she is under the curse and cannot ex- 
tricate herself from that enthialdom. 
Will you leave the glory you have with 
me, and take upon you her sins; be made 
sin for her that she may be made the right- 
eousness of me in you? yes, Father, I 
have loved her with an everlasting love; 
I will go and lay down my life for her. [ 
will tread the wine press alone, fori know 
there will be none to help. I will suffer 
to bear all her sins on my own body upon 
the tree of the cross, I will suffer the chas- 
tisement of her peace, I will be bruised 
for her iniquities. 

Thus did Jesus suffer in time, what was 
divinely purposed in eternity and no more; 
there was nothing occured in all his me- 
diation on earth for the church and world, 
that was not eternally known by him. 
His accusers, the manner thereof, his being 
betrayed, his price which he was priced at, 
his being led before rulers, his buffettings, 
his mocked robe, his hands and feet nailed 
fast to the cross, his spilling his precious, 
cleansing, delivering blood upon Calvary, 
his thirst and his giving up the ghost, as 
well as his resurrection from the dead for 
our justiftcation, and ascension to the 
right hand of his Faiher, to make inter- 



feession for us according to the will of God 
This deliverance was purposed, this deliv- 
erance procured according to the purpose; 
and no sooner or later, nor more or less, 
in the fullness of the time, &c. This de- 
liverance is and will be manifested to the 
whole city of God, called the little city, 
and no more; as it was thnt which was be- 
sieged, and that that was delivered. 

Yet no man remembered that same poor 
man. No, neiiher the Jew nor Greek, 
nor the children of the promise, as well as 
thechildren of the flesh; for the children 
of promise have become the children of 
-wrath even as others, ail carnal, sold under 
flin, all gone out of the way; none loved 
(ind nor his ways, but loved darkness and 
pin rather than light and righteousness; 
none remembers to hate sin within them- 
selves, none commences the work of grace 
upon their heart. 


Bullock county, Georgia, > 
May 9/h, 1841. $ 
Dear brethren Editors: Very dear 
and very near art thou, my brethren and 
brethren's children, &c. Having such an 
offer in fcvnr of sending a few lines to in- 
form you. that I am }'et on the stage of 
aefion though there be few of my age in 
this cumbrous day. I nm going on in 71, 
since the 20th of May lust. I was born in 
the year 70. 1 cannot say as old Jacob 
said to Pharoah, when Pharodi asked him 
saying, how old art thou? Then said he, 
few and evil halh tde years of my pilgrim^ 
age been. He had but ju=t got to Egypt, 
and I cannot get to Canaan, the upper Ca- 
naan, although 1 thought I had a very fair 
start in the way 36 years past. For some-; 
times 1 thought I could not stay in these 
I low grounds of sorrow, anguish and tri- 
Then, brethren editors, it was God that j bulation; but for several years past I care 
loved the city from everlasting. 1 have | but verv little what comes next, for the 
loved thee with an everlasting love. It. scriptures must be fulfilled. And if you 
was God that sent his Son into the world, V yjj| keep your right eye to the word, and 
and gave his Son for us. It was God that y0 ur left eye to ""times you discern the 
was in his Son Jesus Christ, to perform all truth of Jesus Christ fulfilled, 
that he gave him to do. It was God that But of all that I see or hear, this gives 
raised Jesus from the dead, and it is God j me the most, pain of mind, to see the peo- 
that applies the blood to a poor, lost, dead ' p ! e called Baptists divided. Those who. 
sinner in tresspasses and in sins; quickens say ihey were converted, received by the 
into divine life, creates anew in Christ j church, baptised like Jesus was by John, 
Jesus into good works, gives the grace of and then to be led away hy that mission 
repentance, with loving kindnesses, draws irfeyii. learning themselves to practice 
>hem It is God that turns them. Turn | iniquity, mingled with hypocrisy and vain 
us, O Lord, snd we shall be turned; draw deceit, under a form of will worship. Not 
pi, and we will run after thee. It is God a thus saith the Lord, for all the'parades 
that makes them remember him. and no! ' arK l schemes they have taken. They have 
them by their good works, (so called.) boasted of their numbers, and that all other 
that makes God remember them. And jrienomination« are on their side. Now 
jt is God Almighty that delivers the sinner no tice, they do know that all them alls, 
from the burden of sin, by working faith in jare hardly fit to make brogues for religious 
them. What shall we do to work the rogues to climb up some other way. Why, 
work of God? This is the work of God, j w h a t is the Can't you see that all 
that ye believe on him whom he haih sent, jtbem seven somethings, called churches, 
It is God that orders his steps. The good | are them harlots the daughters of Mystery, 
man's step c are ordered of the Lord. It is j Baby Ion, that John saw, that she made 
God that leads us about, and instructs us. ] the great, the wise and mighty, drunk 
Jt is God that keeps the city as the apple |with sorceries or spiritual wickedness. 
of the eye, and it is God'that hides our j Truth saith, COME OUT OF HER, MY 
lives with himself and in Christ ; and when PEOPLE, and be not partakers of her 
Christ who is our life shall appear, then .plague. 

shall all the little city appear with him in j Brethren, tell them, you cannot partake 
glory. Then, brethren, why nil this to do with devils, so let the missionaries and the 
about our first turning to God, or first Methodists take their own way, that is, 
starting; and God »o meet them Half waj'. ;devil's traditions. But. see that you show 
Jt is as untrue as God is true. j that you love the truth, by adhering there-. 

BURWELL TEMPLE. to and acquiescing therewith. When I 



Ward the churches in both your Associa- 
tions had shut the doors against them gos- 
pel swindlers, I was glad in my heart aisd 
my soul. Rejoice, dear sons, do not give 
to them impostors, but say to them as Je- 
sus did, serpents, ye generations of vipers, 
how can you escape the damnation of hell. 
Now, brethren, you need not fear to reject 
them missionaries, for they are the very 
same breed lhat Jesus used to call seribes, 
pharisees, and hypocrites. He tells you 
-now what they were then and are yet, the 
children of the devil. For see his lust is 
to head Christ, and his gospel, and his 
people, and his ordinances, and so do all 
these traditions. Dear sons, contend for 
the faYth once delivered to the saints by 
our Lord Jesus. 1 shall only refer you to 
certain particulars, lhat took place in this 
vicinity in our holy wars with the unholy 
warriors, I mean the missionaries. The 
books, ehspteis and verses you do so well 
know them I shnll omit, for want of time. 
You remember the sons of God, before 
the flood, looked down on the daughters of 
men and saw that they were fair; and so 
the fiast bucket of God's wrath was filled 
with the flood. The second step the sons 
of God was, they took to themselves wives 
whom they would; and then the big-head- 
ed giants began to grow in the church. 
This was through the daughters of men 
■being so fair, that they erected a shop to 
make ministers and prophets to suit their 
carnal dispositions. They soon corrupted 
themselves with their inventions, having a 
form of godJiness but not the power, only 
<he traditions of men and doctrines of dev- 
ils; and in every century, from '.he time of 
!he flood until now, the sons of God have 
been led off by these vain flatterers, or 
these lshmaels, or these mockers, or these 
vain talkers, so far, that they have free 
schools, colleges, and seminaries. Ladies 
and gentlemen, you may send your sons 
that are gifted to us, we can glaze or var- 
nish them soon, that they may know how 
lo address themselves to eyes of spectators, 
«o in two or three years they will be so 
polished with the Grecian files. That be- 
ing done, they may go in silver slippers; 
the rest of his time he may have 5 or 6 
dollars a sermon, or get $500 for the year. 
This is spiritual wickedness in a high 
place, this is the abomination Jesus speaks 
of, standing in the holy place where i\, 
ought not lo stand. Never give place to 
the devil in the Baptist church, she is none 
of his; send these nymphs of his to where 

they belong. There is the mistress of all 
the harlots in the world, the Roman 
church; let them money making minis- 
ters go to Ihem where they belong, to 
Simon the sorcerer, to Alexander the cop- 

Dear brethren, come out of spiritual 
Babylon, have no fellowship with the un- 
fruitful works of darkness; for ye, the 
children of grace, are the children of light; 
walk in the light, for there is no occasion 
of s:umbling, when the light is ?o clear and 
the sight of the single eye so strong. Dear 
sons of God, do not draw back from the 
Primitive; take the whole armor of God 
in your hand, and send the weapons of the 
holy war to the hearts of the king's en- 
emies. Bring the truth as it is in Jesus 
to a dying world, bring your brethren back 
that have run away in their sleep, dream- 
ing that gain was godliness; but give ques- 
tion full weight, show them with all your 
might that godline^s is great gain, i have 
seen and felt your Primitive papers. Bless 
the Lord, O my soul. I now bless God, 
that I have seen so man}' come up to fight 
the battle of"the Lord; the weapons of your 
warfare are mighty, and they are bring- 
ing down every high thought that exalts it- 
self against God. Dear sons, when they 
revile you take no notice of it in your pa- 
pers, make no appeal to Cesar, but to Je- 
sus Christ; see how he bore the heavy end 
of the cross. Do, oh, do^ bear the oiher 
with delight. 

1 now will give you a detail of the slate 
of our Association, which is as follows, 
viz: When the mission spirit waxed hot, 
the anti-mirsion began to wax warm also, 
and srtrae of us began to ii&ht, and some of 
them began to wrong the churches, by 
accusing them of ignorance and some of 
covetousness. And some in their sermons 
would threaten us, if we would not com- 
ply. Then we, to wit, six churches %- 
greed to meet in Tatnall county, on Fox 
Bay, to consult on this matter. The dele- 
gates produced the letters from their sev- 
eral churches, stating their delegation as 
though appointed lo deliberate. Sure 
enough our letters were of one spirit, and 
nearly word for work; but we were Ko 
weak to attempt on an Association, for 
want of ministerial aid. We then appoint- 
ed another meeting three months after, in 
Emanuel county, and nine churches m^t 
us. Their letters and delegates let us see, 
lhat the Lord was in the small still voice. 
That gave us courage to appoint another in 



Washington, on Limestone, and 13 church- 
es met us, all of the Old School of the 
Primitive doctrine of Jesus. We then 
took courage, having in these churches e- 
ieven sort of speakers, such as become the 
gospel of God, sheep-like in the piidst of 
wolves. We then thought proper to peti- 
tion the Hephziba, for letters to form a 
new Association en the south of Ogeechy. 
This request of ours was rejected by the 
Hephziba. Then we took courage, and 
formed ourselves by our covenant and 
constitution, declaring tq/the Lord and one 
another, that we take the New Testament 
for our rule of faith and practice, for we are 
not under the law, but under grace. 

Now in this trying time to think how 
the Lord provided for us, poor things 
Our dear brethrena little previous lo this, 
in North Carolina, had a long content with 
the missionary, and the Kehukee Associa- 
tion she had got rid of them dead weights 
and petlers of missionary confusion. They 
sent u» one of their Minutes, we had it re- 
printed and so made our stand. And see- 
ing the hand of God so perceivable in this, 
we would say, separate yourselves from 
them sinners; they are no better than 
Oorah, Dathon,and Abiram; nay, no bet- 
ter than Jannes and Jambrjs, these with-' 
stood INloscs. See Hofney &. Phynias, the 
sonsof Eli, theywill have to he ujectcd,&. 
the sooner the better. Dear sons, see the 
goodness of God to usward, in contend- 
ing for the liberty of Christ's church. In 
so short a time we are twenty-five in 
church order, in the Cariouchie Associa- 
tion, and several precious gifts, some or- 
dained, some licensed to preach, and the 
increase of members is promising pros- 
pects. Dear sons, only see what the mis- 
sionaries have done, fust in their begging 
for the Indian tuition, and to have them 
evangelised, and see what they have done, 
see the hundreds tin y have killed. Then 
to see their State convention, to look at 
the sign; of the limes; but think of com- 
passing sea and Innd to make proselytes, 
and then to sec how oblivion is progress- 
ing, and that is a sure sign that the mis- 
sion is not of God, but of the wicked one 
To prove this to a demonstration, see the 
churches and Associations divided, the 
poldness in the professors; then lo know 
the strange diseases on man and beast, the 
drowning freshets, the murrain on the cat- 
tle, the catterpilhir on the cotton, the sud- 
den deaths on the people, together with 
stagnation on our trade. The dreadful 

day is fast approaching, let us in heart and 
hand return to the Lord who can pardon 

Dear brethren, T shall tell you part of a 
dream. I had in the blaze of our mission 
war, in the year '36, on Thursday night 
before the fourth 'Lord's day in Septem^ 
ber. My dream was, that I had lost my 
family, that I was going to another place, 
the situation of it did not suit my mind. I 
was thinking I need not care, since I was 
desolate. While musing on this moving, 
! saw a man advancing towards me. I 
knew this man to be a sergeant, though 
an entire stranger. He gave me orders to 
go rally them people, giving his hand 3 
wave to the South three times. 1 refused, 
saying, I was over age and that I had nq 
sword. I saw a multitude of people in 
great confusion; and they had no arms. 
1 heard him in anger say, 1 had a sharp 
sword with two edges. 1 knew he meant 
the Bible. He said, the baggage waggons 
were just at hand, the campaign was there, 
just ahead. I told him I was exempted 
from duty. He said, man was not ex- 
empted in this war. He then rode off 
from me. I saw another coming from the 
South. Ke addressed me in the same 
manner. I excused myself as before. He 
said there was none exempted in this war. 
I saw three coming to me, who saluted me 
in the same manner. They said I must 
inspect their guns, they were just fiom the 
baggage waggons. I asked them if head 
quarters weie distracted to send to such a. 
being as I was lo inspect. The captain, I 
thought, said I should. He handed me 
the breech of his rifle, pulling off the coat. 
! saw one foot of the barrel was iron, the 
balance was glass; the other two rifles were 
all glass. 1 saw the length of them to be 
ihree feet ten inches, and that Ih.ey would 
cany 100 balls to the pound. The cap- 
tain said, 1 suppose they will do- 1 said 
1 will not judge in this matter, for me- 
thinks that glass would not stand the force 
of powdei and dint of bullets. I deny 
then, said the captain, they are pure trans- 
parent glass. 1 said that would do for 
saints to stand on, but not to fight with. 
The captain said, this is not all a bloody 
war, but a wind war; and we are G°g and 
Magog, mustering them to the battle of 
thegreat day of God Almighty's wrath. 
Then he wheeled off to the right, and left 
me to think as 1 could. In a great trem T 
hie I awaked and beheld this lo be a dream. 
And, on Saturday the 2Sth, at our Asso- 

primitive baptist. 


■elation, we heard of the missionaries being 
put in gaol for persuading the Indians a- 
gainst giving up the land we had bought. 
Then the money-hunters began to crowd 
the churches in all the Associations, in ihe 
richest parts of the country, and almost all 
ofour learned and will preachers joined 
themselves and were led astray by that 
wizzard called the love of money. 

Dear brethren, we were in Hephziba 
Association at that. time. I than k the 
Lord he awaked ueto see what they meant. 
They would say to us, we will and must 
have your money, and we will make you. 
willing. I think Ihe midnight cry is now, 
see the foolish virgins selling Jesus to get 
money: but blessed be the Lord, their mo- 
ney is perishing with them. There is not 
H fuj.1 missionary church in Emanuel, Tatt- 
pal,or Liberty, that I know. 1 thank the 
Lord the wise virgins have got their loins 
girded and their lamps burning. There is 
scarcely a monthly meeting, but we have 
*wrne to join our band in this Association. 
yours, brethren, in bonds of love. 



SATURDAY, JUNE 20, 1841. 

$Ve are unable to supply new subscribers with 
all the back numbers of the present volume. To 
those who may desire it, we will send what back 
pumbers we have, and they can receive enough of 
the first numbers of the next volume to make up 
ihjejr subscription year. 


Elizabeth City, Pasquotank county, N. C, 5 
May, 1841 1 5 
Dear Brethren Editors: I have again taken 
pay pen to write a few lines for the Primitive Bap- 
tist; and it depends on the run of my mind, while 
lam writing, whether or not I shall fill up ny 
sheet, for I feel my unworlhiness at present. I 
feel as though I have nothing but to expose my 
jveakness, and for fear of injuring my maker's 
cause, I had best say but little. For I have my 
fears at times, that when 1 undertake to do any 
Jhing that seems to be my duty, it tends only to 
Injure my maker's cause. Ignorance prevails so 
much upon me, that I cannot as yet know my du- 
ties in every point. But I ieel it my duty at pre^ 
Bent, to say something about the alteration of our 
pneetings at the church at Flatty Creek, as some 
pi the brethren requested me to do soi 

This church has altered her meetings from the 
second Sunday to the first, designing her monthly 
meetings to commence on Saturday before the first 
Sunday in each and every month; and her union 
meetings to commence on Friday before the first 
Sunday in every August. This alteration was de- 
signed chiefly to remove some difficulties and dis- 
advantages that existed. And also having ou_r 
meetings in such regulation through the union, 
that if any of our ministering brethren should hap» 
pen to come to see us, they might be prevented 
from unnecessary travelling among the churches 
ofour union. We seem to be making preparation 
in a uipasure, for some of our brethren in the min- 
istry, though we have as yet no particular intelli- 
gence as I suppose of their coining; but hoping 
the Lord's time is most at hand, as we fully be? 
lieve the Lord will have Ids own time to do his. 
own work in, so we should wait his time, but in 
hope it will be when he will revive his glorious 
work among us, when sinners shall come flocking 
home as doves to their windows. We long to see 
the prosperity of Zion, so much so that 1 expect 
we can hardly wait patient enough. 1 think some 
in this situation are apt to try to exert themselves, 
and hero they fall into a snare. We read that the 
! Israelites got weary of wailing for Moses to come 
jdovvn from the mountain, and they went to work 
land made them a calf; but see what followed. So 
i when we get tired of waiting, let us be careful; 
1 let us not be weary in well doing, it is good to 
i wait upon the Lord. "They that wait upon the 
i Lord shall renew their strength, &c." If the 
| Lord does not see fit to send us preachers yet, let 
us wait; still lying in the use of means, pressing 
to do what our duty binds on us with fear and 


Dear brethren at a distance, pray for us who are 
a little union encircled on the north-east corner of 
North Carolina, surrounded with many difficulties 
and snares of the-devili We don't dispute but 
that every Christian prays for every body, but 
still we want all Christians to pray for us particr 
ulavly, that the Lord may revive us, unite us, pre- 
serve us, defend us, protect us, strengthen us, 
guard us; give us day by day our food, deliver us 
from every temptation and evil, and save us at 
last in eternityi 

Sometime in April last, at my plough handles, 
I was meditating on my past experience, and there, 
I summed up the following lines. 

Like all the rest of mortal men, 
Was I conceiv'd and born in sin; 
And as I grew in years was I 
Convinc'd that I was born to die. 
With having an immortal soul, 
That either must with devils howl; 
Or go to happiness and heaven, 
Where everlasting ljf e is given. 



As nature and creation stood, 
AH went to prove tlitre was a Gi>d, 
Before whose frowns men stood in awe, 
Condemned by his righteous law. 

Here some are found to beat the air, 
They pitch to work fur some repair: 
And think as they have broke the breach, 
To mend it still is in their reach, 

And here they go to some great length, 
And work their way thro' thrirown strength; 
Think to appease their maker's frown, 
By adding something of their own. 

But I have not so learn'd thp Lord, 

For nature's garden can't afford 

Such fruit and hliss as will reward 

The saints of God through Christ the Lord. 

Yet when I saw my sins and thrall, 
With condemnation on my soul; 
I work'd the law until my breath 
Was wasted, then I sunk in death. 

Then no dependence of my own, 
Of all my works was nothing done; 
A wretch undone I thought 1 knFW, 
Till Christ the Lord appear'd in view. 

Sometime by reading sacred writ, 
J found it written there complete, 
"Go ye in secret pray to Got' 
And thee he'll openly reward." 

Then I was anxious to depart, 
Where 1 could pray with all my heart; 
And beg the Lord to pardon me. 
And set my soul from troubles free. 

So I went on sometime this way, 
Arid oft in secret tried to pray; 
And after long extremity, 
The Lord reveal'd his love to me. 

Reliev'd my. soul as I have felt. 
And set me free from sin and guilt; 
Strengthened my joints and every limb, 
And bid me rise and follow him. 

Twas then I gloried in my Lord, 
Twas then I lov'd his work and word; 
} thought J then could spend my days, 
In singing to my Saviour's praise. 

I thought though troubles might assail, 
And many dang'rous things prevail; 
"Yet I could live so near the Lord, 
That I could always trust his wordi 

But since that joyful time 1 have, passed through 
piany difficulties, fnr not long after those joyful 
times left me in a measure, and I begun to doubt 
of ever having experienced grace; and that the 
operation of my fee lings was only from the insinu- 
ations of satan, and that I was entirely deceived. 
My reasons I offered was, because I was very 
young at the beginning of my conviction, and 
could not remember how I was first struck, and 
perhaps it was only from a scare, or only of being 
afraid of dying and going to h; j ll. However, if I 
have an experience of grace, my conviction came 
upon me slowly and lightly, and went off about 
the same way. So 1 was about four years passing 

through my experience, and all the while I kept 
ny feelings secret from my friends. And about 
three years longer did I travel in secret, examin- 
ing this matter to know whether I was deceived 
or not. At times I had great encouragement, and 
comforted myself with many scriptural proofs, 
and being so sensible of my deliverance from my 
burden of sin and guilt, and having such love to 
holiness and hatred to sin, that I have been com- 
forted when 1 have expected to go tumbling head- 
long down into despair. Often have I been made 
to cry out within myself, and say, if I have ever 
experienced grace my evidence is, love to holiness 
and hatred to sin, 

So a way was opened for me at the age of twenty 
years, and 1 became a member of society and wai 
baptised in Nov. 18:27. And as it respects the 
exercise of my mind from that time to this, per- 
haps I may say something relative at some other 
conveniency. So I close, remaining yours in lova 
and affection. ABEL PALMER, 


Fairfield district, S. C. } 
rfpril 17/A, 1S41. $ 
Dear Brethren: We have a learned 
Colonel in this country, whose name may 
Ik; seen in one or two numbers of the 
Primitive Baptist, and is always to be seen 
at the head of the list of those in this coun- 
try who go for new schemes ill religion 
and in church affairs. He bears down all 
opposition before him. He speaks and it 
is done, he commands and it stands fast. 
Sometimes we are ready to conclude, sure- 
ly it was he that formed behemoth (that is, 
the hippopotamus, or river horse;) that 
huge creature of whom it is said, "His 
bones are as strong pieces of brass, his 
bones are like bars of iron — Behold he 
drinketh up Jordan and hasteth not, he 
trusteth that he can draw up Jordan into 
his mouth. He takelh it with his eyes, 
his nose pierce! h through snares." He 
pots me in mindof what is said of leviathan: 
«Canst thou draw out leviathan with a 
hook? or his tongue with a cord which 
thou lettest down? Canst thou put a hook 
into his nose? or bore his jaw through with 
a thorn? Will he make man}' supplications 
unto thee? Will he speak soft words unto 
thee? Will he make a covenant with thee? 
wilt thou take him for a servant forever — 
Canst thou fill his skin with barbed irens? 
or his head with fi.-h spears? Lay thine 
hand upon him, remember the battle, do 
no more. Behold, the hope of him is in 
vain: shall not one be cast down even at 



the sight of him. None is so fierce tha' j exhibits them before the people. Andthe 
dare stir him up:" i. e none are so fierce asj people will receive them merely because 

to dare stir up Colonel p****, or to .stand 
in opposition to him, is the way it seems 
to read to me. So that he is so absolute 
in the churches that none dare resist, him 
or s«y unto him, what doest thou, Colonel 
D •? Yea, as ihe Almighty goes on to say 
of leviathan, so say we. of the learned Col. 
D. "Mis heart is as firm as a stone, yea, 
as hard as a piece of the nether millstone. 
When he raiseth up himself the mighty 
are afraid. The sword of him that luyeth 
at him cannot hold; Ihe spear, the dart, nor 
the habergeon, lie esteemeth iron as 
straw, and brass as rotten wood. The ar- 
row cannot make him flee: slinn-stones are 
turned with him into stubble. Darts are 
counted as stubble: he langheth at the sha 

they come from the lips of the learned 
Col. D. "He holds that he is an evange- 
list, and therefore what he says must be as 
true as preaching;,'' say they: ^'Seeing 
that, (according to a Circular letter writ- 
ten hv him and published with Ihe Min- 
utes of the Bethel Association in 1 S3 1 ) 
I the evangelists 3re inspired of God and 
speak as they are moved by Ihe Holy 
Ghost, and that the Lord gives them rev- 
elations in person or by angels, virions, or 
some miraculous way." 

The learned Colonel seems to be some 
thing like the mendicant friars. Mr. 
Charles Buck says, concerning the Do- 
minicans and Franciscans, (two orders of 
these begging brethren,) that by very 

king of a spear. Upon earth there is not j quick progression their pride and conse- 
his like. He beholdeth all high thing*; quence arrived at such a pitch, 
he is a king over the nevv lights. i that they had the presumption to declare 

It happened, however, that the learned publicly that they had a divine impulse 
Colonel took a little trip into Georgia some j and commission to illustrate and maintain 

three years ago, which was before the di- 
visions began to take place in this country 
between Old School and New School Rap- 
lists; and therefore the learned Colonel had 
never got tripped up, nor indeed was he 
then apprized that any body except the 
writer of this communication, would dare 
to scruple his infallibility. It happened, 
however, that our Georgia brethren were 

the religion of Jesus. They treated with 
the utmost insolence and contempt all the 
different orders of the priesthood; they 
affirmed, without a blush, that the true 
method of obtaining salvation was revealed 
to them alone; proclaimed with ostentation 
the superior efficacy and virtue of their 
indulgences; and vaunted beyond measure 
their interest at the court of heaven and 

a little ahead of us in taking a stand against ! their familiar connexions with the supreme 
the New Srhoo! principles and doings. I heing, &c. exactly as the learned Colonel 
And when they learned what new schemes (Iocs. He makes out the old regular pas- 
lhe learned Colonel was about setting on ' tors of the churches of very little or no 
font among them, they closed the doors of' account: they cannot get up revivals as he 
their pulpits against him. Hut bein" - , I ; can; nor have they such influence at the 
suppose, half horse and half alligator as ! court of heaven as he and the other evange- 
the saying is, he was not so easily to be j t'S's have; they can't pray off the people's 
.out done as they had imagined. He moiut- ' sins; nor is it worth their while to pretend 

ted a stump or an horse block in the yard, 
and began to harangue in his new light 
strain of doctrine. And as error when it 
has advocates, has always more adherents 
than iruth has, there were found persons 
in the congregation,? that were for adhering 
to him and his principles: and he beg m to 
liame the thing of constituting them into a 
church; (which did not take place immedi- 
ately, though it did sometime subsequent- 
ly when a Mr. Kerr came along.) as I vvns 
informed by a Mr. Wylie Wright, in ihe 
slate of Georgia, to whom I can take the 
learned Colonel if he denies what I here 

This learned Colonel puts old, refuted 
principles and errors in a new dress and 

to sing them up for that purpose; that it 
takes him to convert a whole neighbor- 
hood in two or ihree weeks, i. e. at one 
protracted meeting; his prayers for the 
pardon of sinners being of so much more 
efficacy lhan those of the common preach? 
erf, &c. &c. &c. all which sentiments with 
many others that we could mention, go 
very strongly to shew that he is merely 
another begging friar, and to give us ap- 
prehensions that we . '■hall have popery a- 
mong us in a few ages more. 

Hut there are some things said of Eman- 
uel Swedenborg also, that very strikingly 
resemble what the learned Colonel says 
concerning himself and the rest of the e- 
vangelists. It is said of Swedenborg, th,a| 



he asserted that in the year 1743, the Lord 
manifested himself to him by a personal 
appearance (just as the learned Colonel says 
he does to the evangelists, 1 suppose,) and 
at the same time opened his spiritual eyes, 
(just as I suppose he does those of the e- 
vangelists, to whom the learned Colonel 
says he gives revelations in person, or by- 
angels, visions, or some miraculous way,) 
so that he was enabled constantly to see 
and converse with spirits and angels (as it 
seems the learned Colonel and the rest ot 
the evangelists' do.) From that time lie be- 
gan to print and publish various wonderful 
things, (which Colonel D- is also doing,) 
which he says were revealed to him, re- 
lating to heaven and hell, the state of men 
after death, &.c. like Colonel D. when he 
gives us to understand that the soul sleeps 
after the death of the body, and will have 
to be awaked at the general judgment. 
But I wish not to run this parallel between 
Emanuel Swedenborg and Emanuel ( 
is. God with us,) Davis too far; suffice it to 
say, he is the most presumptuous man I 
pver was acquainted with in the whole 
course of ni}' life; I will not except those 
who sport wiih the names, titles and attri- 
butes of their maker, by cursing and swear- 
ing in common conversation. 

When 1 refer to the learned Colonel's 
giving us to understand thai the soul sleeps 
between the time of the death of the body 
and that of the general resurrection and 
judgment, I allude to this sublime expres- 
sion of his in a circular letter written by 
him on the utility of missions for the Beth- 
el Association, and published with the 
Minutes of 1S20, "Oh, immortal man, in- 
finite spirit, eternal soul: thou must a - 
gain wake before the eternal bar of God." 
That the soul should sleep at death and 
have to be waked with the body at the 
resurrection, is a new doctrine among the 
Baptists. The learned Colonel must have 
discovered this by a new light that did not 
enlighten the Baptists of former ages. But 
a new light shining into the learned Colo- 
nel's mind, he discovers new things. He 
brings out of his treasure things new in- 
deed: such as haye not been revealed in 
former ages. 1 suppose it is probably be- 
cause he is an evangelist, whose office (viz. 
thatof an evangelist,) the learned Colonel 
says exist in the church in the present day. 
.And forasmuch as he says in the circular 
letter above referred to, (viz. that of 
}831,) that the Lord gave the evange- 
Jjsts revelations in person, or by angels, 

visions, or some miraculous way, I iup* 
pose it was by some such miraculous rev* 
elation, that the learned Colonel found out 
that the soul sleeps at death and has to be 
waked at the resurrection: that is, that 
God came to him in person and told him 
so, or that the angels came to him and 
told him so, or thai it was revealed to him 
in "visions, or some miraculous way;" as 
I cannot imagine how else the learned 
Colonel should have found out this new 
doctrine of the soul's having to be awaked 
at the general resurrection, or at some 
time, (the learned Colonel does not indeed 
expressly say when.) 

Bui the learned Colonel, be he what he 
may in other respects, is a thorough-going 
Synergist; that is, he holds that the sinner 
must co-operate and work with God, when 
he by his spirit is trying to convert him. 
He says this is absolutely and indispensa* 
bly necessary, otherwise when God tries a 
while to convert the sinner and the sinner 
don't try with him, he'll give it out for a 
bill job, and that when God gets properly 
disheartened in this manner, those sinners 
that would not co-operate and work with 
him when he was in the humor, and was 
indeed trying to convert them, pan never 
get religion at all: that the thing will ba 
impossible, because God will then have 
quit trying and have given them over to an 
hard heart anil a reprobate mind. And as 
such is his doctrine, he will bawl out in 
his pieaching to the people, "The spirit 
of the Lord may cease to strive with you — 
God may say of you as he did of Ephraim 
of old, let him alone, he is joined to his 
idols; and you may be given over to an 
hard heart and a reprobate mind, and then 
your damnation is as sure as if you already 
realized it. " 

Now wherein does this differ from the 
principles of tiie Synergists. There is 
not an iota or shade of dilierenoe between 
them. Mr. Charles Buck says the Syn- 
ergists were so called from the Greek 
Sunergeia, which signifies co-operation. 
Hence this name was given to those in the 
sixteenth century who denied that God 
was the sole agent in the conversion of 
sinful man, and affirmed that man co-oper* 
ated with divine grace in the accomplish' 
ment of this salutary purpose. 

Among the Synergists are to be reckon* 
ed the bemipelagians. The Semipela- 
gians held that God did not dispense his 
grace to one more than another, in conse- 
quence of predestination, i. e. an eternal 

pitiMrriVft baptist: 


and absolute decree, but was willing t<> 
save all men, if tbey complied with the 
terms of the gospel; and that man was 
born free, and was consequently, capable 
of resisting ihe influences of grace or of 
complying with its suggestions. And if 
these are not the learned Colonel D.'a sen- 
timents, he does not preach his sentiments 
in public at ail. 

But give him what name we will a? a 
religious heretic or fanatic, his principles 
are subversive of the gospel. Break one 
link in theehain of Christian doctrine and 
you mar and in a manner overthrow the 
Whole. The moment you put a member 
of the Christian system out of joint, you 
introduce a principle that is subversive of 
the whole. For gospel truths are built 
on one another, and have to stand or fall 
together. And if the learned Colonel 
holds that man has a hand in converting 
Or regenerating himself, he may wiih the 
same propriety say he has a hand in re- 
deeming himself. God has all the glory 
of man's salvation, or none at all. 

1 am, dear brethren, yours wiih sincere 
Christian regard and affection 1 . 



Fort Gaines, Georgia, ~) 
June 6th, 1841. <J 
Beloved Brethrkn: It is truth. Isa. 
43rd chap. 9th. v. That the Lord will 
bring his seed from the east, and gather 
them from the west, and the north writ, 
give up, and the south will not keep back, 
and a bruised reed shall he not break, and 
the smoking flax shall lie not quench: he 
shall bring forth judgment unto truth, &c. 
Many passages of scripture have been ta- 
ken from the sacred volume by many 
brethren and published in the Primitive 
Baptist, which prove clearly and conclu- 
sively that the church is safe in Christ, her 
warfare is accomplished, her iniquity is 
pardoned, and the Lord will do hispleasure. 
He speaks and the wind and sea obey him, 
When the dead hear his voice they live, 
his kingdom where he already reigns, is a 
mild and peaceable kingdom without con- 
fusion. How different among men who 
have not the spirit of Christ. All is con 
fusion and discord, and he that has only 
half an eye might see, if he was not veiled 
wiih prejudice, avarice or covelousness; 
but the broad veil of unbelief covers all 
ever, and hides from the vision of him 

•vho has it, the real spirit of the institutions 
of the day, which are only the traditions 
of men. 

But those who are lying in wait to de- 
ceive, have mantled them over with art 
outward garb, under the name of benevo- 
lence; consequently, I fear many of God's 
clear children, while off their guard, some- 
where nipping, when a little aroused from 
their slumbers, perhaps they heard the en- 
chanting sound of benevolence, love, char- 
ity. &c. Those who are thus led deserve 
stripes, for not taking the word of God as 
the man of their counsel; and after the first 
and second admonition, 1 think it right 
to reject them. I grant we have no right 
to think on settled policy in religious mat- 
ters, only according to the scripture connec- 
tions, without a jar in them; and those who 
are their leaders for the sake of gain, let 
them hear the brandishing of your weap- 
ons of warfare, the grubbing hoe, weed- 
ing hoe, cannon and all other implements 
of warfare, which our great cap'ain has 
placed in our hands. I have thought my 
little pop gun pehaps might do Some 
good, if loaded by the captain attd shot at 
j the right time. 

Brethren, when the hardest of the fight is 
over, and you that are the elder officers and 
have a little leisure time, would it not be 
best to turn your eye a moment to our ar- 
my and see who does his duty? What if 
that man doing 5'otvler perfectly stilf, and 
that looks so much like a jackass? who shall 
go and see? The quartermaster (deacon) 
received his charge in the outset, and knows 
it is his duty if he is not negligent, and if 
he has forgotten his orders, the general or- 
ders (scriptures) will show him his duty if he 
will read it. Ah, he is coming and tells us 
the man is not a jackass, though his ears 
are long and he looks stupid; but presumes 
the cause of his appearance is owing to his 
misfortune, in the charge upon the enemy. 
He soon found himself entangled among 
briars and vines where two ways met, and 
could not extricate himself. If the quar- 
termaster and the company act together 
in their duty, they will untie their compan- 
ion in arms. Another is sick, and the 
choicest and richest bread and wine is refu- 
sed. What is the matter? The quarter- 
master should enquire, and have the pro- 
per remedy applied according to the pre- 
scription of the physician. What is the 
matter with those away behind yonder a 
little to the left? The deep sands of Ar- 
minianism have wearied them, and they 


vkimivivk baptist. 

have hard work to travel in a sandy road. 
A little f;.r'.her there, brethren, to Un- 
tight, is a good rock to travel on; those 
signposts mentioned in the general orders 
will lead yon direct to the rock, or good 
old paths. There ;<re some away yonder 
ahead to the left, those are a few fatalists, 
that have got away off there in the charge 
they made on the enemy; anil believe they 
are exactly right, because they are on a 
rock. Truly, but it is the smooth reck of 
smlifibmianism. See how their feet slip. 
Let him that thinketh he standeth take 
heed lest he fall, these are they who carry 
56lbs weight on the left shoulder, and no- 
thing on the right to trim their course with. 
Brethren, heads up, onward march. G iod 
bye. ^ BED AEG McQINTY. 


ffaver/y, Lowndes co. Miss. } 
May 31st, 1S41. \ 

Di,AR Brcjcf niu N ov the Old School 
faith: We hate just had a meeting of the 
Primitive Bapti.sts at our meeting house, 
for the purpose of making suitable arrange- 
ments for the constitution of an Associa- 
tion this fall. We had six visiting preach- 
ers, and a very interesting meeting. Breth- 
ren, let us call (as David did) upon our 
souls, and all that is within us, to praise, 
afdore, and magnify, the great head of I lie 
church, for his tender caie over us, and 
his merciful kindness towards us, when 
We remember, that this country, so recent- 
ly, could only produce beasts of prey and 
Kavage yells, but is now the receptacle of 
the glorious gospel of Jesns Christ, and of 
churches and Associations. 

But alas f while we rejoice at the pro- 
gress of the gospel, and the building up of 
the church, we grieve to know, that there 
j's another gospel, thai is not another, which 
has also found its way into this country; by 
the influence of which, several antichris- 
tian churches, have a name to live, while 
they arc dead. And while the promised 
seed is rejoicing, with pleasing prospects 
of obtaining the inheritance of the pur- 
chased possession, secured to them by 
promise; the bond woman and her chil- 
dren, ignorant of God's righteousness, 
are going about trying to establish their 
own. But they builded (upon yielding 
air and sinking sand,) a building of wood, 
hay, and stubble. 

But, brethren, 1 address you as God's 
building, and as so many lively stones, 

built up a spiritual house for a habitation o' 
God through the spirit. Therefore, breth- 
ren, as the temples of the Holy Ghost let 
us keep ourselves unspotted from the 
world, putting our trust in God, fur he is 
a very present help in time of trouble. 
Therefore, will we net fear/, though the 
earth be removed, and tl^e mountains be 
carried into the midst of the sea; though' 
l he waters thereof roar, and be troubled;' 
though the mountains shake, with the 
swelling thereof. There is a river, the 
streams whereof shall make glad the city 
of God, the holy places of I he tabernacles, 
of the most high. God is in the midst of 
her, she shall not be moved. God shall 
help her and that right eaily. 

Brethren, 1 believe that some of those 
little streams flowed through the city at 
our meeting; there we heard the word 1 
preached, unmix), and pure, by brethren 
Halbrook, Hodges, Guthery, Cook, and 
Petty, all able ministers of the New Testa- 
ment; while the love of God, gladdened 
every heart, ami his grace brightened; 
every countenance. It was a heavenly 
place in Christ Jesus, brethren; it made 
me think of the promise of God, by Isaiah: 
For in the wddtrness shall waters break 
out, and streams in the desert, and lha 
parched ground shall become a poof, and" 
the thirsty land springs of water. 

At the request of the brethren and elders, 
1 send 3 r ou a copy of the proceedings of our 
meeting for publication, which 1 hope you 
will give a place in your columns as soon' 
as you can, as we wish to notify our breth- 
ren of our next meeting, soliciting their 
presence at the same. Yours in tribulation. 

Mississippi, Lowndes cowi/y. 

Agreeably to previous notice, a number 
of brethren and elders of the Primitive or-, met with the Baptist churches of 
Christ at Church Hill and'Bethel, at Church 
Hill meeting house, on Friday before the 
fifth Sunday in May, 1S41, for the pur- 
pose of taking into consideration the pro- 
priety of forming an Association on Prim- 
itive principles: Sendeth Christian salu- 
tation to all the surrounding churches ofour 
faith and order. 

Dear brethren, after due consideration 
and strict examination, we find seveial 
Churches, who are not connected with any 
Association, therefore believing it would bo 
to the edification of the churches, and to 
the fuithtrancing of the Redeemer's king- 



*R>m, for them to unite in an associa'e 
capacity, resolved, that we meet in conven- 
tion on Friday before the fourth Lord's 
day in October next, at Bethescla meeting 
house, Oaktibeha county, Mi. for the pur- 
pose of forming an Old School Baptist 
Association. We thtrelore cordially invite 
our brethren generally to meet us at the 
time and place above named. 

Therefore resolved, that a copy of these 
proceedings be forwarded to the Primitive 
Baptist for publication. 

Appointed Gideon Woodruff to preach 
the introductory sermon. Eider B. 1L!- 
brook his alternate. 

Done in consultation, this the 29th -May, 
1 341, and assigned by orier of the same. 
HENRY PETTY, Moderator. 

Gideon Woodruff, Clerk. 

'he mission part with. us;, but from the best 
calculation that I cm make, they ate far in 
i he minority. 1 am yours with respect, 
in gospd bonds. JOHN HJIRT. 


N'orth Carolina. — -.1. Biggs, Sen. Williamston. 
R. M. G. Moore, Germanton. W. w. Mizell, Ply- 
mouth. Charles Mason, Raxboro'. Benji Bynum, 
Speight's Bridge; H. Vvera, Averasboro'. J, H, 
ICeneday, Chalk Level. Burwp.U Temple, Raleigh. 
Geo. w. McNeely, Lcaksvilie. VVnii H. Vann, 
hong ''reek Brdge. Thomas Bagley, Smith-fieXd. 
James H. Sasser, Waynesboro'. John Kruit, San- 
dy Creek, L. B, Bennett, HeathviUe. Cor's 
Caimday, Ofm^svim William Welch, Abbott's 
Crecki .1. Limb, Camden C. Hi Ai B, Bains, 
Jr. Stanhope. C. T. Sawyer, PoweWs Point. 
Isaac Tillery, Lapland, Thomas Miller, Eliza- 
beth City. Hjrris Wilkerson, West Point. Isaac 
Alderman, ffiobre's Creek, James Miller, Milton 
Park. David R. Canadiy, French's Mills. L. P, 
Beardsley, Greenoille. Isaac Meekins, Columbia^ 
L. J. J. Punkett, Richland, Wm, M. Rushing, 
White's Stoie. Richard Rouse, Strabaae, Wood- 
son Parish, TaXahoe, 

South Carolina. — James Hembree, Sen. An- 
derson C. H. Charles Carter, Cambridge. Bi 
Lawrence, Effingham. James Buiris, Seii, Bold 
Spring. William S. Shaw, Rock Mills. Levi 
Lee, Blacktiille Andrew Westmoreland, Cash- 
vi\[e. R, Hamilton, Aiken. Marshal McGraw, 
Brown's. John Li Simpson, Cookham, J, Gi 
Bowers, Hickory Hi 11, Wrm Xelson, Camden, G, 
Mathews, Mount Willing. Jacob B. Higgins, 

| Georgia. — William Moseley, Bear Creek. Al- 


Pleasant Plains, Alabama. ~) 

Dear brethren Editors: We have 
seen much distress in these regions in con- 
sequence of the division in the Baptist de- 
nomination; but believe the great excite- 
ment is about to die away. The missiona- 
ries first took a growth in our bounds, but 
that is abated and now the Primitives have 
n considerable prospect of an ingathering; 
which may God grant, if consistent with 

his will. ! j en Cleveland, IWcBonough, John MeKenney,/V- 

Though our condition or situation may syth. Anthony Holloway, Lagrange. P.M. Gal- 
he not convenient, we hope that there mav boon, Knoxville. R. Reese, Eaton ton. Thomas 
be a sufficient number that may enjoy ^mis and , David w, Patman, Lexington. Jona- 
, ., • ,, ■',,■ than Neel, James llollinjjsworth and Stenhea 

greater convenience to authonse the pubh- C astellow, Macon. Willfam D. Taylor, Union 
cation of your valuable paper, for 1 really \HiU. John w. Turner, Pleasant nil. Joshua 
believe they are doing much good in the : Bowdo'w, Aluirsvi/le. Jas. M.Rockmore, Upatoie. 

P. H. Edwards, Georgetown. Wm. Trice, Thorn', 
aston. Ezra McCrary, Warrcnton. Prior Lewis 
Rodney. John Lassetter, Vernon. B. Pace, Van Wert 
L. Peacock, Cassville. V. D.VVhatley, Barnesville. 
Alex. Garden and Thomas C, Trice, MountMome' 
EliasO. Hawthorn, Bainbridgt J. G. wintrino-1 
ham, Florence. Wm. Mi Amos, GreenviWe, Ran- 
dolph Arnold, Latimer's S/o/-e. T. J. Bazemore 
C\inton. Jos.Stovall,j?(yui;'lla. Jason Grier, Indian 
Springs. Wm. McElvy, Altapu/gus. Furna Ivey 
Milledgeville. Wm. Garrett, Tucker's Cabin. Jesse 
Moore & John Hardie, Irwinton. Leonard Pratt 
Whitesville. Edward Jones, Decatur. A, Hen- 
don, Shi\o. A. G. Simmons, Hickory Grove 

cause of the Redeemer 



Pine Woods, Arkansas 
Jfprif 23, 1S41. 
Dear brethen Editors: I have the 
pleasure of informing you, that this mo- 
ment I have received three numbers of 
your paper. 1 am much pleased with the 
doctrine that they advocate, and hope the}' 
will meet with much kindness and patron- 
age in this dark and benighted land. 
There are but few Baptists in this section. 

Win. J. Parker, Ghenuba. John Herington, WeL 
bom's Mills. James P. Ellis, PineviWe, F. Hag- 
gard, Athens. H. Barron,Jackson, A.M. Thompson 
Fort Valley^ Daniel O'Neel, Fowl/on. John Apple- 
white, Waynesboro'. B,P. Rouse, Friendship, Sam'l 
Williams, Fair Play. John Wayne, Caw's, R.S 

and lam sorry to say, that there are some of Hamrick, Carrollton. David Smith, Cool Spring' a [ 



Spear, Flat Shoals, Moses Daniel, Bowery, Moses 
H. Denman, Marietta. James Hush, Blakely. 
Asa Edwards, Houston, Richard Stephens, Sen'n 
TarvcrsviWe, John Stroud, lienda]]. James Scar- 
borough, Statesbortugh, Jelhro Oates, Mul- 
berry Grove, Robert R, Thompson, Sectlsville. 
Owen Smith, Tmupvil'e. Kindred Braswell, 
Buncansvil/e. Edmund Si Chambless, Stalling* 
Store. James w. Walker, Marlborough. Edmund 
Dumas", JoknstonviWe. David Rowell, Jr. Gran- 
vf.rsviWe. Joel Colley, Covington, Benjamin C 
Burns, Vi\]a Riceai David Jones, Traveller's Rest. 
W, B. Mullens, Rossville, Willis S, Jarrell, 
Lumpkin. Thomas Everritt, Bristol. Isham. 
Edwards, Wilna. Joseph Daniel, Fish's. 

Alabama. — L. B. Moseley, Cakawba. A. Kea- 
ton, Belmont. Benjamin Lloyd, Lei Faystts. Wt 
y#. Carlisle, Fredonia. Henry Dance, Daniel's 
Pptmte Vv 'W. w. 'vV;,!;-c:,!.u ILll. Dar. 1 ! 
trafford, Greenville. Samuel JMoore, Snow Hill. 
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VOL. 6. 

SATURDAY, JULY 10, 1841. 

No. 13. 

BBBam—iBgaai ivanfe. 


application. 'Now, brethren, who is Paul,' 
or who isApollos, but ministers by whom 
ye believed? They may plant and water, 
but God alone gives the increase. 

Dear brethren, when did the love of God 
originate, and when did it commence, or 
when, or where, was it made manifest? I 
leave the solution to my brethren. A- 
g'ai&j what was the manner of it? Not 


/Somerville, Fayette county, Ten. 
May 23rd, 1S41. 
Beloved Bfethken: I feel to desire 
H request of you, that I may be permitted 
through the Primitive to make one more j by any means like unto the love of 
Communication; which, if dictated by the the world, for the-'world love one another 
.spirit of truth, may prove a blessing in Ihei for or oh account of some mnrkof friend- 
hand of God to the instruction and edifiea- ship or favor -bestowed'. Not so with the 
tiori' of some one or more of God's dear j love of God, it is perfectly sovereign, 
bleating lamb*, scattered throughout the j free, and ujarnnei itexl. Water cannot drown 
extended circulation of the Primitive. I | it, nor fire consume it. Nay, it surpasses 
Shall b'a'^e my communication on the ve- 1 the love of women. It has no time to dale 
fy essence of God, that is love. The : its commencement, nor period fixed when 
blessed Redeemer, just before he was it shall cea-e. Verily, it is everlasting, 
crucified, holds the following Ian- j God himself will as soon cease to exist. 
guage to his disciples: Little children, j The above premises being true,then let each 1 
(Marie, he calls" his disciples little chiL of us prayerful!}' examine ourselves by the 
dren.) yet a little while I am with you,&c. standard the word of God, if we can with 
Again, a new commandment I give unto fear and trembling say we are the objects 1 
you, that you love one another; as 1 have of this love. 

Joved you, that ye also should love one Now methir/ks Phear my brethren one& 
another. Again, by this shall all men all say, 1 often fear I am not. What is the 
know that ye are my disciples: Again, j reason? -Oh, I come so far short of the 
the Saviour says:- If ye love me, keep my i measuring rod that was like unto a reed, 
commandments. Again, and this is Jove, i given to that beloved disciple in the isle of 
that ye do whatsoever 1 command you. | Patmos.- Brethren, for your eticcurage- 
The same writer, (viz:) John, informs us j ment let me tell you, this feature accords' 
t'n'at i'f we love not our brethren* whom we very well with the measure. Hear what is 
have seen, it is false if we that say we lo%>e \ said b}^ such, when the great shepherd de- 
God, whom we have not seen. Again, ' clares you have fed him, and clothed him, 
brethren', notice particularly what is said j and administered unto him.- Oh, savs the 
in the 1 3th chap, of the l§t epistle to theipoor broken-hearted, distressed child of 
c'hurch' at Coi inth, in which every other 


grace is cast as it were inlo the shac 
make room for the greatest of all. 

Beloved brethren, I shall just he able 
to glance at this subject, but do hope you 
will severally and individually make the [1 do think 1 love the image of my Lord, 

God, when did I do these things; 1 am not 
conscious at this time of ever having done 
it. The reply was, inasmuch as ye have' 
done it unto the least of my disciples ye ; 
have done it to me. Ah, says the child again^ 



and my utmost desire is to administer to 
their necessities. But when I did, I fear 
the motive was wrong which must sanctify 
the life. 

Now at word to my strong brethren. I 
exhort you to bear the infirmities of the 
weak, and not to please yourselves. Hear 
the admonition, take care that ye offend 
hot one of these little ones. Hear 
what good old Jacob said to Esau: the 
Children ate tender, and if men should 
over drive them dne day they will die. 
Then there is great danger. Which one of 
the flock of an earthly shepherd will re- 
ceive most attention^ the healthy and strong 
or the disaesed, young or tender ones? 
Surely, say you, the weak, diseased, young 
and lender ones. A hint to the wise is 

My dear brethren, this is an extraordinary 
period in the history of the church, dr I am 
blind & cannot see afaroff. Then, brethren, 
endeavor to keep the unity of the spirit in 
the bond of peace. Be perfectly joined 
together in the same mirtd and the same 
judgment; live in love, live in peace, seeing 
ye are called thereunto. Be courteous 
one toward another, be kind, be gentle, 
hot striving for the highest Seats. Be 
humble, that you mny be exalted. Take 
the advice given by the great shepherd thro' 
the apostle; after he had adverted tothe pro- 
mise of God made to his people, he exhorts 
them to add to their faith virtue, knowl- 
edge, temperance, patience, godliness, bro- 
therly kindness, arid charity. Then will 
your light shine, then will you appear as a 
city set on an hill, and then and there only 
shall the church appear clear as the sun, 
fair as the moon? and terrible as an army 
with banners. 

And ndw a word specially to my dear 
brethren Mickle, Simpson, McGraW and 
others. Dear brethren, your communica- 
tions were of the deepest interest unto me. 
The district of Chester near Landsford, 
So. Car. is the place of my nativity. There 
I have many and dear relatives according 
to the fleshy many of whom 1 fear have join- 
ed in affinity with the strange woman, 

yea, they teach for hire and divine for md 1 -' 
ney. Hopewell is sweet to my recollec- 
tion of her past. There halve 1, brtthreri, 
(if a child at all,) been nursed in my youtfi 
and received the sincere milk of the word. 
Ah, 1 feel as though 1 could adopt the lari- 
gnag-e of the great apostle lb the Gentiles.fdr 
my kinsmen according to the flesh. Dear 
brethren, I feel often to wish I could once 
speak face lo face with some that 1 once 
knew in the flesh. Where are old brethren 
John Ferguson, Jas. Kta, Blake, and oth- 
ers? Are they fallen asleep? 

I have been at some two or three Ses- 
sions of the Bethel Association, when all 
was peace, all was love, all was sim- 
plicity and plainness. The truth preach- 
ed and appreciated, the people edify- 
ed arid instructed, the world reproved. A- 
las, how is the gold become dim, the most 
fine gold changed. Precious sonsofSionj 
comparable to fine gold. Wo unto them; 
saith the Lord by Isaiah, that call eV?l 
good, and good evil; that put darkness for 
light, and light for darkness; that put bit- 
ter for sweet, and Sweet for bitter; which 
justifyeth the Wicked for reward, and ta- 
kcth away the righteousness of the right* 
eous fiom him. Wo unto you, scribes 
and pharisecs, hypocrites; for ye tithe, 
mint, rue, anise and cummin, &c. but 
omit, says the Saviour, justice, juilgmerit, 
and mercy. Yea, he says, they will corrt- 
paSs sea and land to make proselytes, and 
whcii made, hear vvhat he says of them: 
He that haih ears to hear let hwm hear; 
how can j e, says the Saviour, escape thb 
damnation of hell. All the righteous 
blood shed from Abel to Za.charia.°, was tb 
be visited upon that generation. Arid 
how, my brelrrferi, a Voice is heard, saying, 
Yes, we learn thatshe hath cast down rriariy 
wounded, yea many strong men have" befe'h 
slain by her. 

Dear brethren, I have a reqtie-tto make; 
if there is a solitary one of the old Prim- 
itive despised order di" Baptists in the great 
number now contained in the place Called 
Hopewell, I want lo know them, and desire 

spoken of by Solomon. Oh, Hopewell, | that you inform me. 

where art thou? Has the angel of the I now, dear brethren, shall draw to t 

church, (father McCreary,) been taken ! close, by advising you to observe the di 

lrom yob home to glory? has the candle- 
stick been removed out of his place? Hast 
thou, instead of praying the Lord of the 
harvest for a shepherd to go in and out 
before you, employed hirelings, shepherds 
that feedeth no; the sheep but themselves; 

rection given in the epistle of Jude. Kee; 
yourselves in the love of God, lookin, 
for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unt 
eterr.a! life, and of some have compassic 
making a difference and others save wit- 
fear, pulling them out L/f the fire, hatin,. 



even the garment spotted by the flesh, 

And now, brethren, I can inform you, 
that we are not strangers to the children 
of the bond woman in this far west; for 
surely they are strewed along through these 
borders, like grasshoppers for multitude; 
And it is yet even as it was in Paul's day, 
ihey that are born after the flesh, persecute 
them that are born after the spirit. Now 
may the God of peacej that brought again 
from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great 
shepherd of the sheep, through the blood 
of the everlasting covenant, make you 
perfect in every good work, to do his will, 
working in you that which is well pleasing 
in his sight through Jesus Christ (and not 
through the inventions of men.) To whom 
be glory for ever and ever. Amen. 

Now, dear brethren Editors^ after a review 
of what I have written, I fear it would not 
be right to publish it, to the exclusion of 
belter far beter. If you think with me, lay 
it by, or destroy it; for 1 feel as though 1 
can say with the Psalmist David: One 
thing have 1 desired of the Lord, that will 
lseeUafter. (What is that, David?) That 
1 may dwell in the house of the Lord all 
the days of my life, to behold his beauty 
and enquire in his tempie. And again, with 
Ruth: Thy people my people, arid ihy God 
my God. 

1 subscribe myself yours in hopeofeternal 
life, which God that cannot lie promised 
before the world began. 



LfAver Peach Tree, Monroe co. &lct. \ 
August 16M, 1840. \ 

E. R. Whatley, a. servant of Jesus 
Christ, to all the saints in Christ Jesus 
Which are scattered over the United States, 
with the bishops and deacons. Grace be 
Unto you, and peace from God our Father, 
and from the Lord Jesus Christ. I thank 
iny God always, upon the reception of 
your valuable paper, called the Primitive 
Baptist, being conflderit of this very thing, 
that he which hath begun a good work in 
you, will perform it until the day of Jesus 

My dearly and very well beloved breth- 
ren in the Lord, painful as it is to me, I 
now lift my pen .to let you know how, 
what, &c. we are doing in this country as 
respects religion. 1 for one stand exclu- 
ded at this time, a thing 1 have long look- 

ed for. You ask me, why did you look 
for that? Answer, I being alone in this 
part of the country, was called of God to 
preach his gospel; and of course he learnt 
me how to do it, that being much against 
the craft of the present day. I said alone, 
but there are a great many people in this 
country, that say they are of the Old 
School, and stop and don't contend for the 
faith of God's elect, as revealed in his Word 
to usj but seem to sheer around the truth 
and please all hands. 

My brethren, I wish to communicate 
some of my thoughts to you; and then 
leave it to you and to God. In iS38, I 
was in my plantation about noon in prayer 
to Godj not to send me, the podrest) and 
least, and most ignorant child of grace, on 
such an errand as to preach. It seemed to 
me it Would require a learned man of the 
highest abilities, for I had thought for a 
long time that I was entirely deceived. 
The reason was, the preaching was not like 
it Was when I first joined the church. Be- 
ing in this awful condition; as I thought, 
there appeared a great mountain before 
me; and on the top; a great many people 
I sacrificing. In that b>ow<J I saw men that 
| I knew. They all. appeared to be well 
J dressed, arid living in affluent circumstan- 
1 ces. The missionary seemed to be the first 
in Order, but mixed with all kinds of peo- 
ple and all societies. Standing as I was in 
wonder and amazement, I saw a small com- 
pany at the foot of the mountain, moving 
slowly V2x a different direction. This still 
hei/litened my amazement. 

Well, brethreri, I stood as it seemed be- 
tween those two parties, and there seemed 
to be words applied to my mind after this 
manner; you can go up to those people on 
the mountain and live in affluent circum- 
stances, or you can go down to the people 
[of God and suffer affliction for a season. 
Now recollect what Jesus says: My people 
shall b3 a willing people in the day of my 
power. And this was one of his days, for 
I arose up and attempted to run to them; 
dnd in a moment, as though I had awaked 
out bf a deep sleep, I looked with my »atu- 
ra! eyes and 1 saw nothing. 

1 now stood amazed at what happened, 
Wondering what it could mean. A thought 
struck me to go to a brother's house that 
was near, and then and there I saw the first 
Primitive paper, and I believe it was prin- 
cipally the writings of that venerable and 
well beloved father in the gospel, to wit 
Joshua Lawrence. O, what did it brin^ta 



toy troubled heart; consolation, joy, fresh 
Rope, to see so many of the same faith, 
when I once thought I was one alone, or 
deceived entirely. 

Bat in a few days after, I was trying to 
pray again to the Lord, being so much 
troubled about trying to prea~H H seem- 
ed that the time drew nigh, that ! should 
have to step forward in the gospel field. 
0, brethren, what were my feelings;, it 
seemed to me that every thing grew dark- 
er and darker, and that the Lord was about 
to order me to his vineyard to work, and I 
knew not how to commence. Under these 
awful feelings I cried out, Lorcl God of 
Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, show thy poor 
servant how to work and I will step for- 
ward. Recollect again what Jesus said 
about the willingness of his people, this be- 
ing again a day of God's power. At that 
moment of time, a time never to be forgot- 
ten by me, notwithstanding the sorrowful 
condition I now stand in, the glorious 
light of the gospel to the eyes of the mind 
far exceeded the sun at noonday; and in 
that light, a frame of an argument to prove 
(hat Jesus was the Christ. O, brethren, 
the answer of your unworthy servant was, 
tie're, Lord, send me. Now was my joy 
inexpressible. Who can paint the scene, 
not recollecting the many dangers of the 
gospel preacher, or not knowing rather the 
consequences that have always followed 

Well, brethren,* as you know the wri- 
ters in the Primitive cannot communicate 
much in one letter, I will touch on many 
points. So I, like that great apostle, con- 
ferred not with flesh and bk>od, but went 
right to preaching, or rather trying. And 
1 had got over several counties before I ev- 
er thought of license, grant, or permission; 
and I had kept an account of my travel's, 
or miles that I hud rode, when they begin 
to amount up to such a quantity in such a 
short time, 1 began to be afraid the people 
would not believe my account. Rut nev- 
ertheless, I will give you a sketch. In 
about six or seven months 1 had rode four- 
teen hundred miles, as well as my memo- 
ry serves me, and had spoken from about 
thirty-six passages of scripture, and I 
thought all things were right. But lo my 
astonishment, when 1 became a little more 
acquainted with the Baptists, I found that 
there was a part trying to catch me in my 
words? and would tell, that the doctrine! 
preached would not do any good in this 
day of light and vision- Well, say jou, 

what was the doctrine? Why, bretbreti, 
a 1 am not mistaken, it is Jesus Christ and! 
him crucified in the spirit. But to my as- 
tonishment, I was not only fighting with 
the beast at Ephesus, but was preaching 
against a host of the gospel merchants or 
missionary liars. Yes, I can say of a truth, 
that some of them can tell and preach the 
biggest, the* highest, and the tallest lies 
that ever I read of. 

Well, now 1 found it to be best to go 
home to the church for authority lo preach* 
But God works all things after his counsel, 
and none can Binder 1 . So before 1 got 
there, the Lord had pui it into my breth- 
ren's minds to ordain me, and not go lo 
to the trouble of license. Well, there was 
but one of the real grit, or bift one that had! 
come out of that worse than Egyptian bon- 
dage. Well, he was one, and one other 
brother that 1 thought tree loo-, and one of 
the no shell -iort. The first thing 1 knew, 
there was some whispering going on, and I 
was called up to a little group, and what 
then? Why, this old corn-cracker that 
1 wanted to pray for me, he would 
not do no how it could be fixed, and as I 
hid no power he had to be left out. In 
the meanwhile I happened to meet with a 
soft shell, that was to be one of the presby- 
tery; and he took me out and had the au- 
dacity to try to make me agree to join the 
devil or the mission cause, and finally tote? 
mc if I did not retract my doctrine 1 could 
not be ordained. 1 asked him what 1 had 
preached, and he said the truth. Breth- 
ren, notice, ag-ee that I preached the truth, 
I but still want me to retract; that shows 
what they are, and what they want. 
j Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer 
! to God fur Israel is, that they may be sav- 
: ed. For I bear them record that they have 
: a zeal for God, but not according lo know- 
, ledge;, for the}', being ignorant of God's 
righteousness, have not submitted them- 
selves u-nto the righteousness of God, and 
are going about to establish their own 
yighteou'.siiess; (according as it is written'. 
God bath given them the spirit of slumber, 
eyes that they should not see, and ears 
that they should not hear.} And f>.ivid 
said, let their table be made a snare and 
trap, &c. 

Very dear and well beloved brethren in 
the Lord, 1 will now come to a close by 
requesting some of my brethren to write 
expressly to me through the Primitive 
what to do, as I am a poor despised Bap. 
list. The many charges laid against me 



are without number, by the devil and his 
clan, the world and missionaries combined 
'against ine, and no one to help me. 
Lord, have mercy on me. And, contrary 
to any thing that ever I heard before, the 
church received the testimony of the 
world against me. Shame, O shame, 
where is thy blush? Brethren, this you 
know is downright missionary. 

Brethren, I ask oi».ce more -for commu- 
nication. I am but a child only one year 
old in the gospel, and sometimes I am al- 
most brought to say, I will lay down my 
pen and say no more about the matter; but 
a few days ago, the Lord spoke to me while 
in the agonies of trouble; it seemed as 
though I heard the voice, I will show you 
again to Israel. At these words my heart 
was filled with joy, and if it should be the 
will of God to make a way for my escape, 
I hope it will be to his honor, and to his 
everlasting glory and to the good of his 
people and poor sinners. 

Brethren, finally farewell. May the 
Lord bless you, may he keep you from the 
trouble that I have seen, may he keep you un- 
spotted from the world. My brethren, en- 
treat me not to leave you, nor to return 
from following after you; for whither thou 
goest I will go, and where thou lodgest I 
will lodge; thy people shall be my people, 
and thy God shall be my God; where thou 
■diest will I die, and there will I be buried; 
the Lord do so to me and mine, if ought 
but death part thee and me. 


Lexington, Holmes co. Miss. } 
May 23d, 1841. 5 

Dear brethren Editors: I have 
thought for a long time, that I would give 
you a few of my thoughts, it being the 
second time I ever wrote for the press; 
and it may be the last time for what I 
know, for I am growing old and my eyes 
growing dim. And with ail that. I am such 
an imperfect unlearnt creature, and see- 
ing so many wise and learned worthy bre- 
thren writing, it makes me sink at the 
idea. But it is all I have got, and you 
can receive it or not, for if my heart 
does not deceive me, it is for the love 1 
have for the cause and for the peo- 
ple that defend it, or I never would 
lift my pen to scribble another word. 

And now," brethren, I have been read- 
ing your papers better than twelve months, 
and I am well pleased with them; for if I 
am not mistaken, they contain my mind 

aud feelings precisely. And now for ft 
proof of if, I design giving you some of 
the outlines of my travel. In the year 
1S12, about 29 years ago, 1 thought the 
Lord visited my soul if ever, and that was 
in the State of Georgia; and now when 1 cart 
hear of my old brother there, (viz?) broth- 
er Henry David, it makes my heart rejoice 
to hear of his defending that good cause 

Brethren, time and paper would Tail trie 
to write all that is on my mind, though 
little at best; but I will begin and say, 
when I was in the 21st year of my age, 
I think the Lord wrought a change in my 
mind, when at that time 1 thought it wai 
but a little job to get religion. I began to 
try to pray, and soon got very good and 
great in prayer; and I could pray for the 
whole world, and thought the whole world 
could come if they would. But all through 
this struggle, doubts were rising, that yet 
I might be wrong. At length after some 
time, it pleased God to show me the worst 
ol my case and my wicked heart, and then 
and there 1 was shewed that 1 never had 
prayed one word right in my life. And 
under that sensation, I could not so much as 
throw my eyes to heaven, but was made to 
fall prostrate on the ground and cry out, 
Lord, be merciful to me a poor, wretched, 
undone sinner. 

In this situation T wasbro'l to believe, that 
T was the worst of all sinners in the world ;& 
that no one was like me, for I could hear 
no preacher relate my feelings. At length 
I heard Thos. Rhodes preach, and I thought 
he told me all my feelings. Then I was 
rejoiced to think, here was a man that had 
told all my feelings, and thought I never 
should doubt any more. But alas, it was 
not long before I thought this was to de- 
ceive me. I tried to pray for some better 
evidence, when after sometime 1 thought 
it pleased God to give me these words: 
Wherefore, awake thou that sleepeth, and 
arise from the dead and Christ shall give 
you light. Ephes. 5th chapter, and 14th 
verse. These evidences caused me to be- 
lieve, that Christ died for me, and for all 
them that believe in him through faith, and 
them only. 

Then, brethren, I thought I should grow 
to be a big Christian; but instead of grow- 
ing larger, I grow less, for I think the 
more I see myself the less I seem to be. So, 
brethren, I am brought to believe if I am 
saved, it will be by grace through faith, 
and that not of myself it is the gift of God. 



Now, brethren, I could go on to tell you 
of the many trials and conflicts that I have 
to encounter with, while travelling through 
these low grounds of sorrow; but 1 deem 
it unnecessary atthis time, believing that all 
the dear followers of the meek & lowly Je- 
sus can feel and pi ay for each other. So, 
dear brethren, pray for me and my family, 
for I have a wife and ten dear children, 
art* but one that has owned to know him 
to know whom is life eternal. 

Breshren, farewell for this time, and per- 
haps forever. So no more at present, hut 
J remain your unworthy brother in the 
bonds of love. 



■Fayetleville x Talladega county,. Jila. > 
June 10, 1S41. \ 
Dear brethren Editoks: We have 
been in the habit of reading your paper oc- 
casionally, as we could get hold of it; and 
with the doctrine generally contained in 
it, we feel to coincide in some degree. 
We are aware that many very harsh say- 
ings are contained in some of the letters, 
and we would that brethren could be a lit- 
tle smooth in their expositions. Yet Paul, 
if we mistake not, told Timothy to rebuke 
those of the circumcision sharply, and to 
contend earnestly for the faith once deliv* 
ered to the saints. This is the first time 
that we have ever attempted to write a let- 
ter for any religious periodical, to be pub- 
lished; and we are not certain now, but 
that we may siy something wrong (being 
fallible;) but if you find any thing not con- 
sistent vviih the truth, discard my letter 
and you will not injure my feelings. 

We are somewhat constrained this 
morning in our feelings to say something 
through your paper, on the subject of our 
situation It re, relative to the militant 
kingdom of our blessed Saviour. Some- 
where in the prophecies, if vve are not mis- 
taken, you will find some expression like 
this: In that day seven women shall take 
hold of one man, and will say, let us eat 
our own bread and wear our own apparel, 
only let us be called by thy name to take 
away our reproach. 

Now, brethren, we for one believe that, 
that day has now arrived; for how many 
of the ministry do we see now a days, 
who preach up a little final perstverancp, 
and a little baptism, in order to attain 4he 
pame of the true followers of the Saviour! 

And sound them <o the bottom, and w© 
find they have about as much use for them, 
as a little negro who has his task given 
him, and sees in the evening that he will 
not be able to complete it, when he sleals 
up a couple of rocks and slips into his bas- 
ket to make out his weight. It puts us in 
mind of an old saying, "that such and 
such preachers were Baptist warp and 
Methodist filling." But now the matter 
hag become inverted, and they have the 
warp now of the same character as the fill- 
ing used to be. Because to watch min- 
utely, you will see the foundation is good 
works of the creature, and they have got 
so far as to preach, that good works are as 
essential to the salvation of the soul as 
faith. Contradicting the inspired word 
of God, for we read that, '(we are saved by 
grace through Jailh, and that not of our- 
selves, it is the gift of God, not of works 
lest any man should boa>t. '* 

Now, brethren, when we hear men set 
their feet exactly across the track of God's 
gospel, we at once are bound to say that is 
the track of the devil. They, we fear, 
many of them at least, preach willingly 
and receive their reward; and just as soon 
as the reward is withheld, they cease to 
preach. Not so with those who preach 
from necessity, because upon such, a dis- 
pensation of God's glorious gospel is laid. 

Enquiries are frequently made of u«, 
whether our church (Ft. Williams) is mis- 
sionary or antimissionary. We answer 
now, and we hope we shall ever be able to 
answer, that it is the chukch of Jesus. 
Christ, yea the church of the living God, 
built upon the apostles and prophets, Jesus- 
Christ himself bi'ing the chief corner stone. 
Our Association has determined to stand 
f.istin the liberty wherewith Christ hath 
made us free, and not. be again entangled 
with the yoke of bondage. But the de- 
scendants of those who have intermarried 
with the fimily of Ashdod, are roaring a- 
ronnd us; but their language is not under- 
stood by us, it being a mixture; some of 
them chew the cud but divide not the hoof, 
while others divide the hoof ;ind chew not 
the cud. Our Association has nothing to 
do with missionary or any of the institu- 
tions of the day. Th< ivfore it is said in a 
recent missionary publication, that '-these 
brethren do not know what God requires 
of them." Now if God requires the Mul- 
berry Association, or any other Associa- 
tion, to give preachers $600 per year to 
big money to pay themselves with, under 



the cloke of getting money to send the 
gospel to the heathen, we have not found it 
in his word; and surely God's will is com- 
municated in his word. Paul was deter- 
mined to know nothing except Jesus Christ 
and him crucified, but the Ashdods it does 
seem like, are determined to know nothing 
else save beg for money and stir up con- 
tention among God's children. 

We have many faithful stewards, we 
have many faithful ministers, who preach 
g( necessity, and upon whom we do believe 
a dispensation of the gospel is laid. Then 
we feel to bless God's holy name and to 
give thanks from our very soul for these 
blessings, inestimable blessings, conferred 
on us, undeserving as we are. We for our 
part can see no intermediate ground to oc- 
cupy, between the doctrine of predestina- 
tion and that of universal salvation, borne 
of the effort party hold the doctrine here, 
that God's spirit operates with equal force 
on every individual, and the call is as loud 
lo one as to another, and that all men are 
convicted, and that all men have the pow- 
er, and some go so far as lo contend that 
all have the will. Then what need we 
else? Well, if this be the case, every bo- 
dy is saved; because if we have the will 
and the power it is reasonable to conclude, 
that all men would accede to the terms of 
the gospel and finally be saved. 

We would that all men had the will, but 
we are persuaded, that the will has to come 
from God, and the salvation from God, and 
all the glory to God. They have not the 
face to say, that God is allvvise; they will 
not acknowledge, that the church stood 
complete in the mind of Deity anterior to 
the formation of man, thereby disallowing 
the scripture that says, "nothing new nor 
old takes place with him, but all his works 
were known unto him from the begin- 
ning." Solomon in his proverbs says 
that, every word of God is pure, he is a 
shield. unto them that put their trust in 
him. And further, in the next verse he says, 
"add not unto his words, lest he reprove 
theeand thou be found a liar." Prov. 30 
c. 5 and 6 verses, if we mistake not. And 
again he exhorts us to put our trust in the 
Lord, and cleave not to our own under- 
standing." But we have thought we could 
see through the matter. Some men want 
to know as much as Deity, and therefore 
pry into matters that ought not to concern 

We are persuaded that the latter days 
have arrived, for the sci iptures tell us that 

"in the latter days false prophets and false 
teachers shall arise;" and we hear of some 
who go so far as to predict the precise time 
of the second appearance of the Saviour. 
And the Son of God tells us that, "no man 
knoweth the time, not even the angels, 
nor the Son, but the Father." Hence we 
conclude that the time is not far distant, 
when we shall stand before the judgment 
seat of Christ. 

Brethren, we are afraid we shall crowd 
you; we did not intend to write so lengthy 
when we took up our pen, and now we 
are not half done, though we have thrown 
considerable weight out of our bosom up- 
on this paper- And when we become 
overloaded again, we shall evolve it in some 
way or other, and it may be that by some 
process it may again take the road to your 
press, la Christian fellowship. 



Berger's Store, Pittsylvania co Va. 
August 12, 1840. 

Dear Brethren, of the Old School 
or Primitive Baptists: I am yet here, but 
have been very sick for about two months 
and am not well in health at this time; but 
1 wish to thank God for all that I have, 
and for this privilege of letting you hear 
from me, as 1 have had much pleasure in 
hearing from you, my brethren. And 
my wish is, that grace, peace and truth, 
may be multiplied unto you, so as to ena- 
ble you to put the lying, sneaking, mis- 
sionary spirit to flight, for I believe they 
are wearing out here. For I have not 
heard a person in twelve months own, that 
they were in favor of the mission plan. 
No, they will sneak round and say any 
thing, before they will say religion; and 
there are so few in favor of their schemes 
here, that they cannot get enough money 
to carry them through this neighborhood. 
For what few missionaries or go-between- 
ers we have here, are like the missionaries, 
they had rather receive than give. So 
their preachers do not come here, and I 
am thankful for it. 

But 1 must tell you, my brethren, that I 
received a letter from one of the sneak 
family, dated May the 26th, said to come 
from Georgia, Upson county, and he said 
his name was Anthony Freeman, which 1 
doubt; but it may be so, but they are so 
given to lying that 1 cannot tell when they 
do tell the truth. But, brethren, I wish if 


any of you do know such a man in lhal 
county, you would let me know what he 
is; for I think, it is doubtful if it came from 
there, So you, my brethren, if you can, 
let me know who and whit Mr. Freeman 
Sneak is; for I do think the writer of said 
Jetter is nothing but a stupifyed 'dunce, and 
a bigoted knave. And I must sfiovv why I 
thus think of Mr. Freeman Stteafct First; 
he says that argument is altogether objec- 
tionable, and ig offensive to good taste. 
Now Mr, F. Sneak, if argument is so ob- 
jectionable with you, why should you 
send me such a letter as you did? And, 
sir, you are a man of no good taste, or you 
could not do that which you say is offensive 
to good taste. For 3'ou say argument is 
offensive to good taste, yet you voluntari- 
ly engage in that which you say is offensive 
to sood taste, and so make' yourself out a 
knave and a transgressor in doing that, that. 
you condemn others for. 

And again, Mr. F. S. you siy you are 
no party man in the split in churches. 
Now, sir, if you are not, why should you 
turn out and abuse all of my sentiment, and 
then say you are no party man? Now, 
sir, this proves two things; first, that you do 
belong to the mission party; and'secondly, 
that you have not told the truth; and third- 
ly, it will do to prove, that you are a knave 
and a dunce, for yon are a party man if a 

And again you say, that I pervert or 
construe the scriptures wrong; which you 
say you would fain believe was done 
through ignorance, &c. But you did not 
tell one text that I had perverted, neither 
did you name one text 1o prove any thing 
you said; so I'have just answered you with- 
out scVjptuT'e, but will, if God will, show 
you lhal 1 have a right from scripture to 
say hard things of you sneaks, as 3'ou say I 
do. So good day, Mr. Freeman Sneak. 

Dear brethren, I have written what I 
have for Mr. Sneak or the author of said 
letter, who said I was at liberty to com- 
ment on it in any way I pleased, and I 
hope he will see it. On receiving this 
scurrilous-letter, I felt bad for awhile; but 
in a day or two, I received the 10ih No. of 
the Primitive, and in that I found a word 
fitly spoken to me from brother Hassell in 
the way of encouragement to me; and then 
I could defy the sneaks. And after a few 
days 1 received a letter from brother Rice 
from* Alabama, which gave me much com* 
fort, and I hope 1 am thankful to God fop 
such brethren. And I believe that God is 
above the devil, and that he will support 
and comfort his children by his own means, 
in spite of all the missionary sneaks can 
door say to them. For he is God and 
does his work, and none can hinder. So, 
brethren, let us trust to him for life and for 

man at all. And, sir, you go on and call 1 salvation, and do as well as we can. So 
me all the low callings perhaps you could 1 nothing more at present, but-as ever your 
think of, and call the Primitive a dirty | poor feeble brother in the Redeemer of sin* 

Pray for me. 

sheet, and other names to abuse it or us, ! nets. 

and then turn and abuse me for calling the j 

missionaries by hard names. But I wifih 

gay to you, Mr. F. S. thou that sayctb a| 

man shall not steal, doth thou steal? So 

tou are guilty of doing that you will abuse j 

others for doing; or, that which you say is J 

wrong. So if you do that which you con-| 

demn me for, or which you say is wrong, Having been recently repeatedly solicited by 



SATURDAY, JULY 10, 1841. 

then you have condemned yourself. 

And you say 1 1 al ed them hell hounds, 

acrehts and subscribers to forward statements of 
their respective accounts, we shall do so as rapid* 

in some of my writings, which is not the ly as possible; there will probably be many inac- 
truth;for I do not believe that I ever used ' curacies in them, as we have frequently received 
the word in my life, so you are guilty of money from our agents without their specifying 
lying, and I guess that is not half your on whose account it was— subscribers will, there* 
faults. And again, you say that 1 had fore, make the necessary corrections themselvesi 

written a very abuseful letter, which I 
could see in the 3d vol. and 06. h page of 
the Primitive Baptist, and there is no 
communication of mine at that page; so, 
sir, you are wrong, and I do not know 
which one you meant, but I will say to 
you, lhat the old proverb is, that a liar 
jehoujd have a good memory, 

Some subscriptions terminate with this number 
and not having been renewed, the names will i>p 
erased from our list; there are others, also, from, 
whom we have received for sometime no satisfao 
lory assurances of their getting the Primitive Bap- 
tist, whose names will be erased. Should therp 
be any among those, who still desire to receive 
the paper, it will be sent to them again on our re- 


20 1 

e«W*ng notice thereof either from themselves, tlip ( 
postmaster at whose office they receive tlieir pa- 
pers, or from any of our agents. 

We are unable to supply new subscribers with 
all the back numbers of the present volume. To 
those who may desire it, we will send what back 
numbers we have, and. they can receive enough of 
the first numbers of the next volume to make up 
their subscription year. ' 


Crcoked Run, Orange counfy,N'orr'h Carolina, ~> 
June 22nd, 1811. S 

Dear brethren Editors: I at this late period 
send the remittance for your valuable paper, the 
Primitive Baptist; though I am 'ashamed "of my 
negligence, in being so far from sending it 
in advance, but must try to do better "for lime to 

Brethren, it is a cold and barren time in this 
section of country; and when the gospel is preach- 
ed in its purity, there is abundance of murmur- 
iug and complaining with graceless profess- 
ors and men of the world. When they are told, 
that no man can come to the Father bjut by Christ, 
and none can corne to him except the Father which 
sent him draw them, it is to them hard sayings. 
But truth is mighty, and will and. must prevail 
atlast, while error and every false way must ultjr 
innately fall and come to nought. 

Brethren, I wish your paper continued to me 
as heretofore, as 1 wish to take it so long as it 
continues to be published and holds to the 
doctrine it new does. May thte Lord bless and 
prosper and guide you all in the way of all truth. 
your unworthy brother, and if one the least "full, 

ha« become of mc Dear bret lit en, I am 
not dead yet, but am still in the land of the 
living, and have been sweetly reading the 
communications of my beloved brethren, 
when 1 h id a moment to git my breath. 

For, my brethren, all the dear soldiers 
of Christ in this part of God's moral vine- 
yard have had to siand to their posts; but 
now I ran sav to you all with heartfelt joy, 
!>:':' ..c ihe Prince William church have 
obeyed the Lord and corm? out according 
to'his command -unanimously, with the ex- 
ception of seven, which left us and are 
gone with the missionaries. Our church 
had ISO members, which remain with 
i he exception of the seven before mention- 
ed. And though we have no revivals with 
us, we have s great, deal of peace among 
ourselves, and we think that the Primitives 
are-gaining; 'ground here very fast. 

Dear brethren, I must leave you for this 
lime, but by the will of God I intend short- 
ly to give you all my views on the state of 
the human familv, since the day that Ad- 
am and- Eve were driven from the garden 
of Paradise, to till the earth for their sup- 
port; what state sin has left their whole 
posterity in and how my opinion is, that 
the elect of God are ever to get in favor 
again with their God. 

Pray, -dear brethren, for your poor per- 
secuted hu-5 not destroyed brother. Final- 
i ly farewell for the present, and may the 
'grace of our Lord Jesus (.'htist, and the 
love of God our heavenly Faiher, and the 
bb st influence of his Holy Spirit be, rest, 
and remain with you all, is my prayer for 
the Redeemer's sake. Amen. 



Vondlown, South Carolina, ~) 
June 30/ r., 1S41. $ 

Beloved Brethren: Of the Old 
School order, all over these United States, 
whose com<minicaiion$ I read in the little 
winged messenger, the Primitive; which 
to me brings glad tidings of good thing*, 
through which I am enabled to see, that 
God yet has a few names that still contend 
earnestly for the faitb once delivered to the 

And, my beloved brethren, knowinb- 
that you have seen my name stand in the 
Primitive as an agent for the same, and 
hearing no more from me for so long a 
time, I fear that many of the dear brethren 
$nd sisters are beginning to wpnder what 


Decatur, Dekalb county, Ga. 
February \sl, 1.-41. 
Brethren Editors: A few lines to 
my Primitive brethren, scattered over 
these United States. I want to tell you 
some of the exercises of my mind. Before 
I was ten years old, I used to see my mo- 
iher return from retirement to the house. 
1 could see she had been weeping, and I 
was made to wonder what she could weep 
for. She was called a good woman, and a 
Baptist loo. But, after a while, from the 
many admonitions she gave me, 1 eame to 
this conclusion, that it must be for the wel- 
fare of her children. I would often prom- 
ise the Lord I would do better, but as I 
grew up I became very fond of what we 



used to call civil mirth; but old Paul calls 
it revelling. And when I went to a frolic, 
it was sure to leave a sting behind in my 
conscience; and I would promise again 
and again, and as often break my pro- 

But, to be as brief as possible, after the 
dear moiher was gone home about 25 years, 
it pleased the Lord to call me by the word 
of his grace. I flew to the law and woiks, 
but soon found I failed in every point; so 
that I could say with old Paul, when the 
law came, sin revived and I died. I began 
ts try to pray, and I can assure you, breth- 
ren, if the public m's prayer could have 
been worn out, I should have worn it out 
entirely. And I came to this conclusion, 
that time had been when I might have ob- 
tained pardon, but now the day of grace 
wa9 past with me. Oh, brethren, it was a 
distressing time, I do assure you; but some- 
how I could not give it up, but still tried to 
plead for mercy 

as travel upon a woman with child, and 
ihey shall not escape. 

Hut ye, brethren, are not in darkness, 
that that day should overtake you as a 
thief; then fore, let us not sleep as do oth- 
eis, but Jet us watch and be sober; let 
us who are of the day be sober, putting; on 
the breastplate of faith and love, and for 
our helmet the hope of salvation. 

Finally, brethren, farewell. Be perfect, 
be of good comfort, be of one mind; live in 
peace, and the God of love and peace shall 
be with you. Being in haste, I must come 
to a close by subscribing myself yours as 


Shelbyville, Bedford county, Ten. } 
May 22, 1S41. \ 
Beloved brethren in the Lord; I 
have been reading your papers about 
twelve months, and have been made to re- 
At this time" I was on my way to Geor- ! joice when I have heard from the breth- 
gia, moving from Virginia. One night in rcn from different parts of the Union. 
South Carolina, in 1817, 1 would try once They appear like the apostles, of one heart 
more to plead for mercy, and this scripture and of one soul, though many crafismcn 
came to me: Come unto me all ye that are had crept in amongst us; but by going out 
weary and heavy laden, and I will give you from us, they have made manifest they 
rest, &c. This promise seemed to remove ! were not ol us. 

my burden. I thought I could see how Though some of the brethren have been 
God could be just, and justify such a sin- uneasy on account of the divisions amongst 
ner as I was. I soon got into doubts and 'he Baptists, for my part 1 am truly glad. 
fears, and when I got to Georgia 1 found it Some of my brethren will say, why so, 
was a very cold time of religion, and did has it not been distressing? My reason for 
not think I was fit to join a church of being glad is, 1 think we were like Gide- 
Christians; therefore 1 staggered along for ort. we had too many. When the twenty 
about eight years, when this scripture and two thousand that were rejected 
seemed to confirm my hop-: We know turned back, was the army any weaker? 
we have passed from death, because we , When God proved them, there were but 
love the brethren. 1 thought I would go three hundred went to the battle. 1 think 
and talk to the church. I done so, and the these were all the true soldiers that were in 
church received me. And when I was the great army. So I believe that the soh 
baptised I felt better satisfied, not that it tiiers of Jesus will follow him, there a. e 
had taken the filth of the flesh, but was the none of them faint hearted, and they will 
answer of a good conscience. Therefore, j not turn to the institutions of the day and 
brethren, I am still staggering along in join to the inventions of men. 
doubts and f